CZ Scorpion EVO III To Be Sold to Consumers
Those lucky Czechs will soon be able to purchase a semi-automatic version of the CZ Scorpion EVO III submachine gun CZK 30,000 (~$1,700 USD).
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The small submachine gun produced by Česká Zbrojovka Uherský Brod, the successor to the legendary Scorpion Model 61 is also available as a semi-automatic civilian version.
The Scorpion EVO 3 represents the newest compact submachine gun from the traditional Czech manufacturer of small firearms. Besides the purely military version, which the Czech Army has ordered for the Prague Castle guards, the manufacturer ́s product portfolio also includes the semi-automatic version labelled S1 with the cal. 9 mm Luger. The price is around CZK 30 thousand.
The roots of this little firearm reach over to Slovakia, the homeland of the Laugo LG 205 that saw the light of the world ten years ago. However, the firearm never made it further than to prototype version. The project was taken over by Česká zbrojovka a few years later to master it to the final product under the already mentioned name – Scorpion Evo 3 – with the first official introductory presentation in the year 2009. It is also worth mentioning that Česká zbrojovka worked on the “extremely small automatic rifle” called Hrom (Thunder) or Mor (Plague) in the second half of the previous decade. Those were real successors to the legendary Model 61 of very small size and unique telescopic barrel. The Scorpion Evo 3 belongs to notably larger firearms class, yet it is still presented by the manufacturer as the successor in the tradition of the small submachine guns range.
Last year, the Czech Army ordered almost 600 brand new Scorpions for the Prague Castle guard, besides other items, and the firearms will be supplied in subsequent consignments starting this autumn. The recent news disclosed that Česká zbrojovka Uherský Brod will be supplying thousands of brand new CZ 75 pistols, Scorpions and BRENs to an undisclosed Arabic country.
The military version of Scorpion A1 is 660 mm long, 410 mm with the retracted stock, which also applies to the civilian semi-automatic version S1. The difference is substantially in the inability to fire in burst mode, the magazine limitation to twenty rounds only, compared to thirty rounds in the military version, also resulting in reduced weight – 2.55 kg. The gun is fitted with adjustable mechanical sights, forged barrel and the frame is made from a hardened light polymer the effective range is up to 250 m, which is a standard feature of any personal defence weapon (PDW).
The gun does not require any special cleaning or maintenance tools, the rails in sides and the top of the submachine gun allow for fitting of various accessories, optical sights, flashlights or markers.
Before you ask, I have no idea if they plan on (or are able to) export it to the USA.
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Ha! You said “pro gun” and ” president” in the same sentence. That’s almost as good as “honest” and ” politician”! Here’s a concept, they are all lying coniving aholes.
The nfa gig is a joke, but it will never be repealed. Unless we have a major governmental “reorganization”. Hm I like that, sounds less militant than, revolution.
Seeing as I am a collector, I would buy it. Then after I shoot it and do some operations with operators who operate, I can make an informed decision about its characteristics.
The girl is hot.Ha! You said “pro gun” and ” president” in the same sentence. That’s almost as good as “honest” and ” politician”! Here’s a concept, they are all lying coniving aholes. The nfa gig is a joke, but it will never be repealed. Unless we have a major governmental “reorganization”. Hm I like that, sounds less militant than, revolution.
Seeing as I am a collector, I would buy it. Then after I shoot it and do some operations with operators who operate, I can make an informed decision about its characteristics.
The girl is hot.
penetarion blah blah blah, i bet no-one on here has been anywhere near swat etc… armchair ninjas
As someone of Czech heritage, finally I have something to be proud of. Here in America, you tell people you’re Czech, and they’re like “what the hell is that?” CZ rules. I also love their 805 Assault Rifle.
In conventional SMG tactics, full auto is only used for breaking contact or suppressive fire. For most applications, the selector stays on semi.
Of course, SMGs are obsolete with the advent of short-barrelled 5.56mm weapons, so the gun still has no place in any kind of home defense scenario. It may be useful suppressed for taking out varmints in areas where discharging a firearm is discouraged.
On the contrary, I believe that the current trend towards SBR is just a fad -a wasteful one at that, considering the great loss of muzzle velocity and energy due to the short barrel, and still the small caliber bullets are too damn likely to overpenetrate -go straight through our intended target, and end inside something -or someone- we didn’t intend to harm. Or even a good chance of ricocheting from a hard surface and end inside someone we didn’t intend to hurt.
I believe firmly in the right tool for the right job, and the SBRs and rifle-caliber carbines are more of a jack-of-all-trades gun -not as accurate and powerful at rifle ranges, too powerful at short ranges- while the SMG and pistol-caliber carbines have just the right amount of power and accuracy for close combat -including home defense-. We certainly don’t want to have an errant .223 flying through our plaster walls and embedding itself into our neighbour’s head halfway down the block.
I concur with the previous reply. Here in the UK our Police specialists use 9mm SMGs specifically for the limited penetration/collateral damage issue.
Were I using an SMG for home defense in a house where my kids were asleep in adjacent bedrooms I would never use anything above 9mm (academic because I do live in the UK —- so we just have to beat intruders to death with torches, which gives us an acceptable legal defense).
does the gun come with a free supermodel?
When will the CZ 805 come state side? I rather have that.
Lets get a good, pro-gun president this time and repeal the poorly written, stupid 1934 Gangster gun control act!
Then we can purchase and own guns like this one.
I like skinny girls too!
Chamber it in:
400 CorBon
38-45
10mm Auto
9×25 Dillon
Ha! You said “pro gun” and ” president” in the same sentence. That’s almost as good as “honest” and ” politician”! Here’s a concept, they are all lying coniving aholes. The nfa gig is a joke, but it will never be repealed. Unless we have a major governmental “reorganization”. Hm I like that, sounds less militant than, revolution.
Seeing as I am a collector, I would buy it. Then after I shoot it and do some operations with operators who operate, I can make an informed decision about its characteristics.
The girl is hot.
cool gun however i aggree for the waight illl stick with a pistol asfor the gun bunny cute however to skiny for me
Czechnology is best nology.
From a technical standpoint, that photograph was very well done. Excellent control of lighting and use of technique.
From a subjective standpoint, Miss October 2011 in the CZ wall calendar (which also features the original vz. 61 and the Scorpion Evo 3 A1) is much better looking.
Being of Czech descent myself, I cannot deny that.
At any rate, she’s gorgeous. This costs as much as a Bushmaster! Wow!
How selfish of you to say such a thing since you didn’t provide a link!
Sorry, I dunno about a link – it’s on my wall, a Czech girl gave it to me.
The calendar was available at the IWA exhibition. Even with one of the models giving an autograph on her photo
Hrom and Mor aren’t from CZ-UB, those are designs from Prototypa Brno, although it’s possible that CZ-UB maybe wanted those designs as it’s mostly just manufacturer, whilst Prototypa Brno is design bureau (btw CZ 805 was also developed by someone else than CZ-UB – small company called Czech Weapons).
Hrom is basically new version of KRASA (very short “PDW” in 7,62×39 and 5,45×39 from 80s), also Mor doesn’t have telescopic barrel, but telescopic receiver.
Forget the weapon I want the woman! LOL.
You mixed up women and weapon. Just though I should let you know.
I found the info that CZ is producing BREN guns (a derivative of the Czech ZB26 light machine guns) still very interesting.
This isn’t really news. Several have already been sold to civilians across Europe, more than a few months ago. Most notably in France and Belgium there are already some in circulation (the civilian variant that is).
However, europeans who were hoping to find this in the shops atm will be disappointed. CZ-UB only recently notified that the A1 version will be getting priority machine time, and that the S1 would most likely only be back in stock at distributors by next summer. (This info is for .fr & .be, I cannot speak of the czech domestic market)
That doesn’t look like 9mm in the magazine, more like 7.62×25 or 5.7×28. Am I missing something?
Steve, Czechs already can buy these semi “SMGs” and some already have them (unfortunately not me though
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It is my understanding that full auto is legal in CZ with the appropriate paperwork and fee.
Looks like a cool gun, wish it was available here.
Yes, it is “possible” but generally only a few collectors would get such exceptions and you have no legal right to it.
So in general – no, most people cannot have full auto in the CZ.
After staring at the picture for several minutes (for some unknown reason), I finally got round to reading the press release.
Am I missing something? They keep using the words ‘small’ and ‘compact’ for an SMG the size of an assault rifle.
Normally when you see a half naked girl on the Internet and size is brought into the equation, it’s normally bigger is better, but in this case, the converse would be more useful.
Sorry, I’ve lost my train of thought…mmm, bewbs.
I don’t know what size you consider “assault rifle”, since this carbine measures 660 mm with stock deployed, while a M4 carbine measures 740 mm with stock Retracted and 840 mm with stock extended.
Compared to a standard M4 it is slightly shorter, but the M4 is not the only assault rifle in the world.
If you take in all of the dimensions (including length) and compare them to the number of compact assault rifles, PDWs and SBRs on the market, such as the Sig 552 and the various Tavor MTAR/CTAR models for example, the size of the Scorpion becomes relatively large for a 9mm SMG.
When you compare the Scorpion EVO III to it’s 9mm SMG contemporaries, the size difference becomes readily apparent.
Do you get a discount if you order both?
I noticed the article mentioned the “inability to fire in burst mode” so is the selector on the military variant S-1-3? No full-auto?
“It is also worth mentioning that Česká zbrojovka worked on the “extremely small automatic rifle” called Hrom (Thunder) or Mor (Plague) “
anyone have any info on those?
There was a gun in that picture?
“Cool gun.. but if it’s not full auto.. i see no point in carry something like this with it’s weight and bulk for a 9mm”
It is purely for civilian use!
No carry. IPSC “mini rifle” competition gun + home defense gun.
We (in EU generally) have no 16″ barrel rule, but 30 cm (cca. 11,5″) barrel or 60 cm (23″) overal length is the definition of the LONG GUN.
>We (in EU generally) have no 16″ barrel rule, but 30 cm (cca. 11,5″) barrel
> or 60 cm (23″) overal length is the definition of the LONG GUN.
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Hunter, eh? I beg to differ: In Germany for example, we do have an additional ~16.75″ (42cm) barrel rule for sporting long guns and a ~18″ rule (45cm) for pump-action shotguns.
But this might qualify as a sporting pistol (as it is in a pistol caliber) as long as there is no military full-auto version of it.
I’ll take the girl please, CZ can keep the subgun…
Greetings from Texas,
I would be hard pressed to say which one of them looks like more fun!
From the outside, it looks like a offspring of H&K GG36 with H&K UMP 9.
Cool gun.. but if it’s not full auto.. i see no point in carry something like this with it’s weight and bulk for a 9mm.. I would just carry a 9mm pistol instead.. also, i think a weapon this size should be chambered more for a rifle cartridge that a pistol chambering..
Obviously you’ve never had an sbr 9mm.
Need a point for a pistol-caliber carbine? I’ll give you two.
-Improved accuracy.
-Improved muzzle velocity and energy.
I’m not saying that one should ditch their pistols and go for pistol-carbine calibers, I’m saying that they aim to different purposes. Want to carry concealed? Take a subcompact pistol. Want to carry open? Take a compact or full-size pistol.
Not concerned about weight or size, but could use improved accuracy and power -like for home defense or even pest control-? Take a carbine.
very true. 9mm preforms well out of a carbine barrel and better accuracy like you said.
The cartridge characteristics are greatly improved but the pdw’s greatest assets are increased sight radius and controllabilty during rapid fire.
You can put shots on target at 100 yards easily with a pdw where a pistol may get lucky but would be more of a cover fire role.
In a combat situation a pistols effective range is about 50 ft with a profficient shooter.
Sure i can hit a man sized target at 200 yards with a 1911 but that is not practical when getting shot at.
Pistol ammo is much better when talking about over penetration versus effective stopping power in cqb. Frangible ammo just doesn’t deliver enough energy deep into the body’s vital organs