Kahr CW9 Review

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The Kahr CW9 is a 9mm pistol from the company’s value line (read: less expensive) of pistols that include the CW40 (.40 S&W) and CW45 (.45 ACP).  I’ve been looking for a single stack 9mm for concealed carry, so I jumped at the chance to review this gun.

Normally I carry a Glock 19 as my primary CCW pistol.  Frequently a S&W 642 will ride shotgun in a pocket, and I don’t see giving that up any time soon.  But, as much as I love my second gen Glock, I have to admit that thoughts of a thin, single stack have been gnawing at me.

Other compact 9mm pistols just haven’t appealed much to me.  The Taurus 709 doesn’t have enough grip to feel good in the hand, and the Glock 26 is too darn thick for my desires.  I shot the Ruger LC9 at the SHOT Show, and it shows promise, but I was eager to get the Kahr out to the range.

Characteristics

The CW9 is a single stack 9mm pistol with a polymer frame and stainless steel slide and barrel.  The frame is black, while the slide has a matte stainless finish.

The sights are the typical dot front, bar rear configuration found on other Kahr pistols.  The front sight is polymer and fixed onto the slide.  The rear slide is steel and dovetailed.  The rear steel sight allows the shooter to use the sight to rack the slide one handed when training for one hand reloads and malfunction clearing drills.

How the front sight is connected to the slide.

The magazine is stainless steel with a polymer baseplate.  The magazine is the same as the mag from the Kahr P-series of pistols, so finding spares should not be a problem.  The CW9 ships with one magazine only.

Total capacity in the 9mm version is 7+1, but 8 round magazines are available.

The grip is just about long enough for me to get my whole hand on, and when the magazine is inserted, perfect grip length is achieved.  This is important to me, as I hate it when my pinky (or more) is hanging off the bottom of the pistol.

This Kahr is very thin, measuring only 0.9” wide at the slide.  With the single stack frame, the gun felt pretty good in my hand.  My hands run small to medium, so keep that in mind when considering my observations.

I prefer to carry a pistol in an “inside the waistband holster” (IWB) under a t-shirt or polo shirt.  Since I live in central Florida, I don’t get much of a chance to wear a coat for concealment.

A good holster can make all the difference, but the CW9 is really thin and much easier to tuck inside your waistband than the typical double stack pistol.

The CW9 has a barrel length of 3.6” and an overall length of 5.9”.  Weight of the pistol is only 15.8 ounces (unloaded).

A common mistake made about the CW9 is that the frame rails on this pistol are entirely made from polymer.  At first glance this appears to be true, but it is not.  The rails are metal, but there is a plastic component that could be considered part of the rail system.
The rear metal rails are immediately observable.  The front metal rails may escape notice on the first glance, as they are somewhat concealed in the dust cover portion of the frame.  Plastic “rails” align with the rear metal rails, but are not said to be integral to the reliable functioning of the pistol.

On my gun, I put more than 700 rounds through it and then checked for wear on the rails.  Not surpassingly, there was visible wear on the plastic portion of the rails.  The tops of the plastic felt as if they had been rough sanded and the edges of the plastic had small bits of shavings.

While this may be concerning, the gun did not have any malfunctions.  Additionally, this portion of the plastic frame is not visible from the exterior of the pistol.  So, while the initial look of the worn areas may be generally concerning, I can find no reason to believe the pistol will not function reliably, and still maintain its good looks.

MSRP is $549.

Shooting the Kahr

I spent a lot of time on the range with the CW9.  This was the first Kahr I’ve had the chance to test and I really wanted to give it a good workout.

I put somewhere close to 750 rounds through the CW9 including eight different defensive loads.  Throughout the shooting, I experienced no malfunctions of any kind.

The CW9 has a typical Kahr trigger that is more like a double action revolver than the typical modern striker fired pistols.  This may, or may not, appeal to different people.  My bias: I love my Smith & Wesson revolvers, but most frequently carry a Glock.  I guess I just like both.

The trigger pull is smooth, but somewhat long.  Since the CW9 is thin, I found that far too much of my finger wanted to address the trigger.  This meant that initially my accuracy suffered as my finger tip was hanging out of the left side of the trigger guard, touching my support hand.  Consciously shifting my finger position fixed the problem, but it never felt as natural for me as with other pistols.

The DAO trigger pull measured an average of 7 lbs, 1 oz on my Lyman trigger pull gauge.

One additional thing about the CW9’s trigger pull is there is not a reset point halfway along the path of the trigger when letting off pressure.  To shoot a follow-up shot, you have to let the trigger all the way out (absolutely all the way out) before pressing again.
The return pressure on the trigger is not strong enough to really “snap” the trigger back out, so you have to be careful to avoid short stroking the trigger.

For what it is worth, I have seen police videos of officers carrying third generation S&W autoloaders (5900-series for example) where the officers did not let the trigger all the way out after the first shot, so subsequent trigger pulls did not make the gun go bang.
Maybe you consider this a gun problem or a training defect.  Regardless, that’s the way the Kahr works, so take that into consideration.

Unlike a lot of the micro-compact 9mm pistols, I really enjoyed shooting the Kahr.  Recoil with even the hottest self defense loads was very light.  Rapid shots were very easy to keep on target.

The pistol was fairly accurate, with most five shot groups landing inside a 4” group at 15 yards when shot off hand.  Any accuracy problems with the CW9 were my fault, not a indicator of problems with the firearm.

The magazine springs remained tight throughout the shooting.  My only complaint with the magazines is the feed lips are a bit sharp.  So, after a long range session of loading the same two magazines over and over, my thumb was talking openly of rebellion.  It is a relatively small issue, but one you should know about prior to taking this to a Rob Pincus or Massad Ayoob class.

Ammunition Performance

As I mentioned earlier in the article, I put hundreds of rounds through the CW9.  Functioning was 100% with all of the loads.  The best accuracy was with the 147 grain Speer Gold Dot ammunition, but all of the self defense loads were good performers, with the 124 grain Remington Golden Saber coming in behind the 147 grain Speer for second place.

I generally prefer a 9mm bullet with a velocity of at least 1100 fps to help ensure expansion.  Excepting the Remington and Magtech offerings, all of the 115 grain and 124 grain self defense loads exceeded 1100 fps out of the relatively short Kahr barrel.

The 147 grain loads all ran in the low 900’s for velocities, with the +P Federal HST not offering much of a velocity improvement over the standard pressure Winchester PDX (936 fps vs 924 fps).

Conclusions

The Kahr CW9 may be in the company’s budget line, but it performed as well as any pistol could be expected.  Reliability was 100% with a broad range of ammunition, and it was very easy shooting.

The only issue I have with the CW9 is the trigger: both the long pull and the long distance to travel for reset.  These are issues that I can train to handle, so I don’t worry too much about them.  Nonetheless, I would have to put in some serious practice time before I was completely comfortable with transitioning from my Glock to the Kahr.

It may be a moot point anyway.  My wife handled the gun after I got back from the range, and she is insisting on making it hers.  Sigh…


Richard Johnson

An advocate of gun proliferation zones, Richard is a long time shooter, former cop and internet entrepreneur. Among the many places he calls home is http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/.


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  • Lance

    I’d love one too to be my backup with my M-92FS. If I could only afford one.

  • http://maddmedic.wordpress.com maddmedic

    Nice write up.
    The CW9 has been my carry weapon since I obtained my CCW a few years back. And I carry it IWB in a Remora holster or Galco IWB.
    I have no complaints about it and do not profess to be an expert on it or any other guns. I only ask they shoot where I want and when.
    Again thanks for a good review on a nice weapon.

  • RENEGADESIX

    Thank you for such a comprehensive review! I just picked up an LC9 and like it but think the PM9 is much nicer. It would be nice if someone would make a trigger for them. Being so small it does take some getting use to 7#’s!

  • Charles

    Great review, thanks for posting.

  • Bsmart

    Nice review. I’ve been looking for a good ccw pistol, and I havent considered the Kahr. I just looked up Kahr on Wiki and it appears its owned by the Reverend Moon cult…. Just an FYI

    • Phil Elliott

      He is dead, owned by the son who is a U. S. citizen and a very good Firearms Engineer.

  • Speedyfish

    I carry a PM9 as a back-up gun in my rotation. I do not mind the long trigger pull, as it reminds me of my Smith 642 trigger–long and smooth. My gun has also been trouble-free through about 500 rounds. I have found Kahr ‘s build to be solid and the gun reliable. I welcome a lower cost option to their lineup.

  • Tyson Chandler

    Richard,

    This was a great review. Very well written and illustrated. The color graph comparing the ammo velocities was a thoughtful touch and sharply executed. Your observations on the trigger take up and reset were critical information in my opinion. Thanks for the great work.

    Steve…thanks for posting this on your blog. It was a pleasure to read, please have Richard back sometime in the future. He is the kind of writer who could write a review of a barnyard shovel and make it a compelling read. Keep up the good work.

  • Carl B

    The CW9 is currently my car gun, no pun intended.

    The trigger is not an issue for me, as this is not a competition gun, it is a small concealable defensive pistol.

    The PM9 runs in my pocket and I keep CW9 mags as reloads, this is nice since whatever is available will use the same mags.

  • ap

    I had the same single stack 9 bug recently. After much pondering I went with H&K P7. Fixed bbl., SA trigger, thin slide, all milled construction, but heavy. Same weight as a G19 (loaded weights) but boy does it carry well. I just couldn’t get used to that Kahr trigger and the idea of plastic shaving off into the gun.

  • 4Cammer

    One magazine ships with what is presented to be a self defense pistol? Nuts. And those plastic “rails” would bother me every time I broke the weapon down.

    Nice $$ though.

  • Steven

    I have a P9 myself that I’ve carried for about a year and I can attest to the gun’s ability to eat any ammo and I’ve yet to a single malfunction. The only real difference between the two is the polygonal rifling; the angle of feeding ramp and all the other parts look remarkably similar.

    He’s right about the sharp edges on the magazines and the heavy trigger pull and long reset. I fixed the problem with some quality shooting gloves for loading and took the time to train myself from the light DA/SA PX4 trigger to the P9.

    One more thing thats important for CCW. It’s difficult to find a good mag holster due to it’s slimness. If the mag is too lose in the holster the weight of the loaded mag will slowly push on the tip of the top round and move it out of position. This can lead to problems if you’re going to your back up mags as the top round will be out of place and not feed correctly or, depending on your chosen ammo, could deform the round.

    I fixed my problem by finding a better fitted holster to keep the pressure off the top round. I experimented with gluing a triangle piece of leather to the bottom of the looser holster so that the pressure would be along the side of the top round rather tip. Both work, but I’d rather not chance a mag falling out because the holster was too loose.

    • Phil Elliott

      Try a knife case, I carry my extra Cw9 mag in that and it works very well, no problems at all. Just be sure and orient the mag as it would go into the gun with my off hand.

  • Ladyfox

    Any chance of maybe doing a size comparison to the Glock 19?

  • Kevan

    I own the CW40 (same gun, just the Men’s version). ;-)

    It’s an okay gun, but I do not like the break-in period. That’s just some rough shooting, heavy recoil until you have it broken in.

    I absolutely love the size, it is so small and easy to conceal, but that comes at a price–the fromt rails are polymer (as far as I can tell). There is some metal within the frame for reinforcement, but I’m concerned about long-term wear. Good gun for the price, not one I would shoot a ton.

    There’s my 2¢.

  • griffin

    I too have used a Kahr CW9 as my primary CCW pistol. I found it reliable and accurate but with my pistol the rails were starting the ‘warp’ outward and the pin holding the trigger in started to come out.

  • snmp

    That’s would be nice if they make in same way a polymer frame compatible with 1911A1 and/or Comander silde in 45ACP

  • Joel

    Very nice review.

    The Kahr is advertised as “DAO.” Yet, unlike many other double actions, the Kahr does not offer a second strike capability (the “DA” of the SA/DA Sig 226 offers second strike, for example). This seems odd and out of keeping with Kahr’s long trigger pull (and long reset).

    A few years ago H&K began offering alternative trigger mechanisms for some of its models. Perhaps Kahr should consider this strategy. If one is not going to have second strike, then a more Glock-like mechanism may be preferred by many. It would make me seriously consider the CW9.

  • Alex J.

    That’s way to much ware on the frame. My glock 19 has 3 times as many rounds and no wear like that.

    Big turn off, something is wrong with the design.

    Alex

  • FW226

    That’s quite the review. I like having some more in-depth looks at the guns posted on here.

  • Martin (M)

    Love the review! It looks like a decent little gun, but I’ve got serious concerns about the wear on that plastic frame. If it’s not a bearing surface, then what is chewing that plastic up?

  • Jim

    That slide wear is quite disturbing. I dread to think how the slide play will feel after a few hundred more rounds.

  • jyo

    Yeah, my wife wanted the small CW9 for herself, so I bought two (my brother also bought one at the same time)—all three suffered from a magazine drop problem after a shot or two was fired—this was fixed quickly when Kahr sent new mag releases and springs. All three now run 100% with any of the factory 115 – 124 FMJ or JHPs that we tried and all shoot right to point of aim! Probably 5-600 rounds thru each by now. Trigger is different, but with practice, no problem. Small, thin, stainless and reall quite light—whats not to like?

  • matt geb

    Great review!
    This is a conceal and carry gun that performs very well. The CW9 goes for well under $400! It’s not a pistol to take to the range every week to squeeze off a couple hundred rounds. Break it it in, 200 rounds as recommended, and use it as it was intended as a CC or home defense and pray you’ll never have to use it.
    If your looking for a pistol for target purposes to fire a 1000 rounds a year this isn’t your gun! Again break it in and run through a few clips a month to stay sharp. It’s an excellent light-weight, dependable inexpensive conceal and carry alternative. The Kahr is far superior to the Ruger LCs or the piece of junk S&W “bodyguard” which I unfortunately owned prior to my Kahr purchase.
    Two thumbs way up in my opinion!

    • Michael S.

      This is right on point. We all have other guns that are great plinkers, night time full sized etc .. ect.. For the cost, this gun is easily concealable and reliable. I have big hands so to shoot .40 cal (known to be “snappy” on recoil) without feeling like this pistol is going to flip out of my hands is great. Not to mention my daughter and wife can shoot it and get good groupings at 15yrs. I to also owned a S&W “bodyguard” and about dropped it a couple times shooting. If you can carry a 92FS / Glock etc every day well, hell lucky you…I wish I could to but reality is I can’t because of what I have to wear for work.

  • Bob T.

    Thanks for the great review, also thank you Matt geb, I could not have said it better. If I’m going to the range every week to shoot why would I purchase a gun that is designed to be a like the Kahr cw9. If I need to use it as intended, I’m not going to be fireing 1000 rounds if it comes to that Most all of us would be S.O.L. I’ll keep my Kahr, thank you, I have other guns for other types of shooting.

  • http://suburbansdomain.blogspot.com/ Suburban

    Is there actually a detail picture of the front sight? The “How the front sight is connected to the slide,” caption is under a photo of the breechface and the rear sight is above that.

  • Hunter S.

    I bought a CW9 this past weekend at a gun show for $360! Immediately cleaned it (and lubed the metal rails) and took it to the range for break-in. 200 rounds and two cleanings later I had had NO problems and had also enjoyed a great time with the little 9. Maybe this isn’t a gun to shoot a ton of rounds down range but it will be tough not to since it is such a joy to shoot. Thanks for the article!

  • Gregg

    Re: Steven on 02 Apr 2011 at 6:21 am

    >> I fixed my problem by finding a better fitted holder to keep the pressure off the top round.
    <<

    I've also experienced the issue with the top round being pushed out of position by using a magazine holder that wasn't quite tight enough. However none of the mag holders I've found in local stores seem to fit any better.

    Can you tel me what mag holder you found that fit better?

    Thanks

  • http://www.youtube.com/lhusby 10sport64

    This is an awesome review. I bought mine 3 days ago and been carrying (wile in the property) in a Remora holster made for my 642. I it is a sweet shooter. Put more than 120 rds of Win. 115gr fmj amd 10 Cor bon’s 9mm Luger + P 90 gr SD ammo with no FTF or FTE. I wanted to see the recoil in two extremes. The Cor Bon promisses 1500 fps 450 ft/lbs (not much oa recoil but a very loud rd). The gun is good looking, solid and well made. I agree that it is on the value side of Kahrs but it would be unfair to compare to other inexpensive or entry level guns. It is in fact a more affordable Kahr. Since I don’t carry back up guns, this will be my summer carry (with a 8 rd spare mag). To be honest I will rotate with the j-frame. Just can’t stay away from that marvelous wheel. I will probably carry my XD-45C in the winter. My Taurus 24/7 Pro 9mm will be the range gun (put more than 26000 rds with no problems until January when I needed a new recoil spring-still waiting for Taurus to send me 2 sets I ordered). The CW-9 fits every hand in the house and my 12 years old shoots it pretty well. I don’t care for the finger extension and will replace it with the pm 9 but flush baseplate mag.
    Looking forward to more 100 rds with that next week and years to come of nice and easy carry of this nice pistol.

  • http://www.youtube.com/lhusby 10sport64

    Correction: :) I put more than 2600 rds in the Taurus 24/7 not 26000.

  • Kyle

    I just picked up my cw9 last night, but wanted to comment on the wear issues on the front rail. From what I understand about these weapons, they are built to very tight tolerances. Recommended break in is 200-300 rounds, and just as on metal parts, plastic parts that fall in to that tight tolerance range will need to be worn to a point where the gun functions smoothly. My thought would be that after the wear develops to a certain point it will stop progressing as the clearances created are large enough.

    You mentioned you put about 750 rounds though the pistol, did you happen to break it down after the recommended break in period? Perhaps that wear was created during that time, and the latter rounds contributed little to what you are seeing today? Just a thought.

    Anyways, I bought this as a CCW in lieu of my Glock 19 (just too thick). Gun looks great, feels nice in the hand, and I personally like the trigger a bit better than the glock. Definitely longer, but much more smooth. Have yet to get it to the range, but I am definitely looking forward to it

  • claytondog

    I have the cm9 and fired 220 rds through mine in the week since I bought it. I love this gun! I also own a Glock 26 and have fired that A LOT (over 2000 rds) but the Glock is a fat little piggy next to the thin cm9. So my Glock is in the safe now and my cm9 is ready to hit the streets.

    I was concerned when I took the cm9 apart three days ago and saw some wear on the plastic rails. I was ticked off by that so I contacted Kahr immediately. They were very responsive and told me (in writing – via email) that the polymer rails are only there for assistance in the re-assembly process of the pistol and not used to carry the structural/dynamic loads when the slide is cycled during use. The steel rails fore and aft on the pistol carry the load. He said the wear is normal and will stop after the “un-needed material is worn”. Think about trying to re-assemble the pistol without those plastic rails – the steel rails in the front are tiny, giving the pistol that tight feel, but it would be difficult to align the slide on those small front rails without the large plastic rails to assist. We’d all be complaining about how hard the gun is to assemble instead…

    He also told me that Kahr doesn’t use fiberglass in their polymers like other manufacturers do. He told me that fiberglass separates over time and high temperature, so they intentionally don’t use it. The fiberglass would probably help eliminate this annoying polymer shaving we see on these great guns, but they feel the pistol is better off without the fiberglass. But they use the exact same polymer frames on their higher priced models like the PM9 and P9 as the frames they use on the CM9 and CW9, so we’re not getting “cheaper” frames. Kahr is in it to win it, and they think their polymer is as good or even better than their competitors.

    My plan is to shoot this SOB like I stole it, with no regard for my useless poly rails. It’s going to outlast me for sure.

    Happy shooting folks.

  • Ben

    I rented one of these at the range today, I’m sold. All of the rental guns there do not get cleaned often and have many thousands of rounds through them. The CW9 I shot worked flawlessly. Needless to say I’m picking up a p9 with night sights this weekend.

  • jeff

    Thanks for the review. I trained myself on what became my two favorite guns: a S&W 44 and 500 magnum. I just bought this little automatic for obvious reasons and missed most of my first 50 rounds. I had to go back to the 500 to make sure my eyes weren’t crossing…
    Any advice?

    • Alan

      I just finished my break in period for my CW9. Still, I just can’t seem to get the hang of this loooooong pull. Give it time. I also have a S&W .44 (629) that I love to shoot. I can shoot better one handed with the 44 than I can with the CW9. It was getting expensive though so I bought the Kahr.

  • Jim

    Thank you for a comprehensive review. We acquired a Friends of NRA edition, which appear to be cosmetic. This is one of my wife’s ccw pistols. We already knew about Kahr chacteristics from my Kahr P9. The trigger is very revolver like in trigger pull and re-set. It is a change in function for some used to Glock for example. Training is a cure for fumbling. I lubed it with Extreme Weapons Lube (EWL) and it fired 50 ball 9s without malfunction, and it is a soft shooer, paricularly suited for small hand as many women have. It is almost as light as an S&W airweight. I would not worry about wear, shoot it a lot, become proficient. It’s a fine gun at a bargan price.

  • Bob

    I have run close to 2000 rounds through my CW9. I just inspected the plastic rails and see no signs of wear such as you experienced. I did shoot the 200 break in rounds in two sessions and cleaned the gun between shooting. I also religiously clean all of my guns after any amount of shooting. The trigger is one that I may never get completely used to. I do find the CW9 to be very easy to bring on target and I actually shoot this gun much more accurately if I just fire away. I have not yet had one failure to feed. I have relatively large hands but feel very comfortable shooting this super slim weapon. I do not hesitate at all in suggesting the CW9 as a great CCW option.

  • Rick S

    Love this pistol and have no complaints. Searched high and low for a pistol that fit my hand well and wasn’t uncomfortable to carry all day, every day. This is pretty close to perfect for me. If it had a glock trigger, it would be PERFECT.
    I’ve carried it every day for 6 months in a mini tuck and my search has stopped. Put two hundred rounds (4 different types of ammo) through it the first week with zero failures of any kind. I am not a professional shooter but I am really happy with my consistant 1.5 inch groups at 7 yards. I would prefer to have night sights but the only addition I’ve made is a Hogue Grip and it was a very good, 8$ investment.
    Better a CW9 on my hip, then my Glock 23 at home in the safe.

  • joe bergmann

    purchased cw9 a week ago put 120 rounds through it noticed approx.3/8″ crack in the weld on the top back of the mag. Had another mag in mail already coming since only comes with one,now after 100 more rounds same problem with new mag. Kahr cs has new mags coming in mail to replace these but do i have really bad luck or is this happening to others.

  • Trainframe

    I picked this beauty up today and put my first 50 rounds through it. I owned a Ruger LC9 and loved everything about that gun except, THE TRIGGER! to long a pull and to heavy. It made me inaccurate! Tried a Kel Tec PF9, better but still long. The Kahr is lighter than both, and not as long. The LC9 has a safety, so why that God awful pull? well anyways, was way more accurate with the CW9 than LC9, and I am very happy so far. Not much to dislike here. A simple Quality product. Hurts my fingers to load mag (the top edge digs into my fingers) is about the only knock I have. Does this gun have a loaded chamber indicator? I think so, but if I am right, it is a subtle one. Gun fed beautifully, but you have to pull the slide way back to chamber the round! Can’t waet to get more rounds down range!

  • Russ

    That was an excellent write up. I have been contemplating between the Ruger LC9, Sig 290 and Kahr CW9. You have convinced me to go with the Kahr. I was not that impressed with the LC9. The Sig is expensive for a gun that could be stolen from your car, etc… Also the feel of the Kahr is excellent. I have a XD(M) 40 as the gun that I shoot with. I love that gun! I think what was said about this is a great carry gun and to practice with it once per month is the key!

  • Jim young

    Just a note to anyone who is thinking about buying a Kahr. I purchased a CW9 that was made about three months ago new from buds guns. The problem is not with BGs but with Kahr.
    I took the gun to the range and every other shot the mag fell out and it was not me hitting the MR. I called Kahr and they did send an all metal one to replace the plastic one. I refitted it and that seemed to take care of the problem as it did not happen again, but I then took the CW to the range a third time and the recoil spring broke. I called Kahr and was told I would have to send it back to Kahr on my dime. So to put it in simple terms I had to pay 20 dollars to send the gun back wait 6 weeks for them to look at it for a 2 dollar their cost 8 dollar my cost RS.

    Now I will contrast that with two other problems I have just had this week, One of my Smith and Wesson M&P mags was not working correctly and was over stripping the round. I called Smith and they did not even want a serial number, they just said, whats your address and one is on its way. WOW thats service :shock:

    The second example of great CS is Glock. I have a 19 2nd gen from about 95 that I purchased new, put it in my safe and have not even broken it in. My brother called me and said he was getting two Glocks and that he had been reading that the guide rods made of plastic seems to be a problem to some owners. I then went to the safe and checked my GR and it was missing about half the round plastic circle that holds the spring on in the rear and fits into the grove of the lug on the bbl. I called Glock and said its and old gun but I really have not shot it, they did not care it was what is the serial no, and one is on its way hope this fixes the problem.

    Contrast this CS at Smith and Glock with that of Kahr. I called a third time to Kahr to see if I could get a different agent as maybe this guy with a heavy English accent was just having a bad life. I got him every time and asked why he always answered the phone. He said he was one of two techs for all of Kahr. Well that answers that question. Next I told him I was shooting RAM ammo and was told to stop right there that any reloads void Kahrs warranty. I asked him if it would work for Kahr if I bought two and used them as book ends, if that would keep the warranty alive and well. LOL.

    Kahr seems to be loosing their edge as this great company that pays attention to detail and makes a great gun to one that has horrible to non existent CS and guns with problems. To give full disclosure I did have a previous problem with the CW, and Kahr did send me a replacement mag catch all metal that took care of it or at lasted seemed to as I did not get to shoot as much to test it out before the spring broke. But they also have had a lot of problems with this as far as I can read on line although they will most likely not admit it.

    So if you are looking for a Kahr, you may want to consider something else. As for me I am going to replace the spring with a wolf spring from midway and then sell it and buy a M&P c or G26, which I should have done in the first place.

    PS, I don’t have photos of the Kahr spring. I disassembled it at the range and threw it in the garbage bbl. I know I should have kept it, but who would have though that Kahr would have reneged on their product over a 2 dollar part?

    • Ben

      Did you put the recoil spring on backwards? because, for some stupid reason, you can do that and it will mess things up.

      • jim young

        No I did not remove the spring and it went back in as it was removed from the gun. I never took it off the guide rod. I sold the gun and made a complait to the BBB. Kahr contacted me and sold me a new CW9 at 259. I have put about 500 rounds though it and had no problems. I still don’t like the long trigger pull but its a nice slim line gun that has had no FTF or FTEs as of yet. I hope Kahr has fixed their customer service problem.

    • gary

      I am a 30 year retired veteran of the Detroit Police Dept. I have owned Sigs, Glocks (still do), kel tec’s, Rugers single action and LCP 380,S&W’s,Colt’s and now own a Kahr C W 9 . I am an old guy with many health issues angina congestive health failure,5 heart attacks and 20 0thers or so. I cannot run, fight and on 3 blood thinners I cannot take even a small beating. I borrowed a friends Kahr 9 and loved the way it felt in my smaller than average hand. It conceal carries so well, my Ruger L C P is not in use as much. I have put about 700 rounds through it without a glitch. Never had a problem with dropping the mag or releasing it when I wanted to drop it..To me it is fine pistol and I love it. I would howevwer NEVER recommend a Mitch Rosen Holster paid 90.00 and 18.00. more fro leather break in lube. It still scratched my new pistol on both sides of the front sight blade. Called and wrote the company no response. I will still with Galco a fine outfit. Feel free to e mail me [email protected]. Keep your powder dry and knives sharp. Have a great summer . Gary

    • Ted

      I had the same problem with a cw40 dropping the mag. The store I purchased the weapon from traded me straight across for a cw9. Now have about one thousand rounds through it and no malfunctions. you are right about there customer service, It is horrible. I guess it’s hit and miss when buying one of these pistols. I do however love my 9. it’s been reliable and accurate.

  • Rexy

    What a bunch of whiney bitches!
    You peeps all need to get real lives and move out of your parents’ houses.

    • MrApple

      What exactly is your problem?

    • Bond….James Bond

      Rexy, You forgot your medicines AGAIN!

  • Larry

    there is only 1 other gun I carry more than my CW9 and that is my Kahr P380 Karh makes a great ccw gun

  • Brian

    I have a Beretta 92fs as my primary defense weapon. Legendary quality, full size, and heavy. Too heavy to CC. Looking for something smaller, I happened upon a duo-tone SIG P232 in .380. Great gun, but quite heavy. Incredible shooter. I was looking for 9MM single stack, on a polymer frame. I came across the CW9. About half as much as my SIG, and half the weight too. Fit’s IWB without detection even under a loose t-shirt. About the long trigger, I prefer it to a manual safety any day, and find it to be incredibly smooth. Have acreage with a nice bank, so shooting often is big plus. We shoot 7yrd, 15yrds, and 25yrds. The Beretta shoots well at all ranges. The CW9 is fantastic at 7, and 15, and can hit the twelve in gong at 25 without too much trouble. Have had 0 problems with the little gun. Would advise anyone looking for a 9MM CCW, take a close look at the Kahr CW9. Do buy another mag er two though.

  • JP

    The plastic rails on the frame are intended as an aid to reassembly and nothing more. The slide rides on stainless steel rails both front and rear. I have over 10,000 rounds through my Kahr pistol with no signs of wear. In over 10,000 rounds I have experienced only three failures to feed all attributable to to the ammo used and not the gun. There are no manual safeties on Kahr pistols save for the long smooth double action trigger pull. If you enjoy shooting a fine double action revolver you’ll love shooting a Kahr pistol. I can draw and fire eight rounds from my Kahr pistol in under the three seconds in spite of the long trigger reset. As far as I’m concerned, Kahr manufactures some of the finest concealed carry pistols made.

  • Mike johnson

    I bought a new CW45 in 2012 and it’s been a huge disappointment. Kahr states to put at least 200 rounds through it for break in. Do they ship the gun with 200 rounds? Of course not. The gun will fire everytime with one in the chamber but whether or not it will fully chamber the next round is always a mystery. Sometimes it will work and I can go through a few mags. Other times I’ll have 1-2 stoppages in one mag. Tried all different brands of ammo, FMJ’s and even some HP’s. Makes no difference. I’ve got at least 500 rounds down range with it and I will not carry it. I contacted Kahr and they said, drumroll please……… put some more rounds through it. They did however send me a part to replace because the take down pin kept coming out while shooting. I fixed that and it has stopped coming out. But the fact that it sometimes doesn’t fully chamber the next round in frustrating. You have to stop and clear it then reload. It’s like it freezes up. A semi auto that does this is absolute garbage. I contacted Kahr again and they said I could send it to them (on my dime) and I said no thanks, the thing SHOULD work. Think I’ll just sell it.

  • Erik Wade

    The Kahr CW9 is a great weapon but I found a few issues that aren’t listed here that I wanted to share for those having the same issues and wondering WTF.
    1. Mag releases while firing. This is a shooting issue since I’ve found that the little mag release button is a little touchy and if I have my thumb in the wrong place and barely touch that button, the mag will release and I’ll have to rechamber the round after slapping the mag back up. This is obviously a personal grip issue but with so little real estate for my annoying thumb, I wish the button was stiffer or required a deeper push to release the mags when I accidentally hit it.
    2. the magazines SUCK! Yep, I said it. They are poorly designed and if you want to load up max rounds in the mag and slap it into the pistol WITHOUT pulling the slide back to chamber a round…well…the round gets pushed down to more of a 90 degree angle and when you DO pull the slide back, the round doesn’t feed it gets wedged. The design is intended for you to pull the slide back, load the mag in, drop the slide and chamber a round. THEN AND ONLY THEN in the first round angled correctly to chamber into the barrel. Otherwise it isn’t. I preferred to load the mag and intended to pull the slide back to chamber a round till I learned of this little issue and realized there is no way to do that.
    3. The slide often slips when you slap a mag up into the pistol. Nothing like getting a little surprise slide chamber a round when you didn’t expect it and did nothing more than slap a mag up in place. It happens so often to mine that I have now come to expect it, but it isn’t by design.

  • Sulaco

    I have had a Kahr P9 for over 10 years and it has never failed after uncounted 1000’s of rounds of all types, in fact in my annual police qual shoot for retired officers I used it and scored rather high for a single column gun used in a course designed for Glock’s. When I was working, in order for a gun to be added to the approved off duty or back up carry list the SWAT team had to approve it. In order to approve it they had to have one to test. I lent them my P9 for two weeks and the SWAT Sgt said that they tried their best to break it and were not able to. I have had a problem with a P40, the tiny spring under the side of the slide if you put the gun back together slightly wrong gets bent out of shape and the gun malfunctions. When this happened I emailed Kahr and within a week had two replacement springs arriving in the mail, no charge. As to 9mm ammo I prefer the HST 147 grain non +P, it is the most accurate and testing I have seen and nearly 10 years of street shooting observation (mostly in calibers 9mm and .40) confirms, it is all round a great round even in shorter barrels like the Kahr or Glock 26/27. Penetration and expansion seem to be first rate. Finding it, now that’s another story…