A DIY Submachine gun

A reader emailed me these photos of a homemade submachine gun built by man in Romania from the plans of Luty's infamous book. It is chambered in .32 ACP and fires at a rate of 550 - 600 rpm.

Improvements of the original Luty SMG are ergonomic maple knotwood grip, forward grip/extended magwell, ligher bolt, heavier mainspring and a glock-style feed ramp.

On of these days I would like build a legal blank firing submachine gun.

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  1. willytwrote on March 21st, 2011 at 4:34 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    The Luty design is a bit off and the safety factor is really low. I bought the book but wont build it, its just not safe under any condition . If Im going to build something like this I want it to be legal and safe. At best the book is good for understanding the way a basic a machine gun works . WHICH IS WHAT THE AUTHOR HAD IN MIND.

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  2. unknown1730wrote on September 26th, 2010 at 2:02 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    @rjm:

    Got anything response back from him?

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  3. unknown1730wrote on August 31st, 2010 at 3:53 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    @rjm:

    Ok, you can message me on youtube for any updates, I am “unknown1730″ on there.

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  4. rjmwrote on August 28th, 2010 at 1:27 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Oh and to others;
    That IS a laser sight, and the finish is Parkerizing done in a zinc coated
    drywall tub, thus the greenish tint.

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  5. rjmwrote on August 28th, 2010 at 1:24 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Unknown,
    I will email him and see if this can be arranged.

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  6. unknown1730wrote on August 20th, 2010 at 8:54 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Hey, I am wondering if you could get back with the person who built it and ask if they could upload on youtube a test firing video? I think we are all curious to see how this gun would function.

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  7. unknown1730wrote on August 15th, 2010 at 1:30 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Oh and the extended mag well is part of the design of luty’s .32 cal machine pistol.

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  8. unknown1730wrote on August 15th, 2010 at 5:55 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Damn, did they include a test firing video? I would love to see this gun in action.

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  9. Suburbanwrote on August 08th, 2010 at 6:21 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    The book, “Improvised Weapons of The American Underground,” has blueprints for a .45ACP submachinegun that uses grease gun mags. Hehe, the book had a lot to do with how I ended up with my nickname.

    IIRC, Delta Press (www.deltapress.com) has this book, and a few other build-your-own-machinegun type books. Just to be safe, I’ll remind everyone that building full-auto firearms is very illegal to everyone that doesn’t have special ATF licensing. The books/plans on how to make them are legal though, at least at the moment.

    I’m somewhat shocked to see that the book is carried by Amazon too.

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  10. Jack Elsewrote on August 07th, 2010 at 1:08 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    What’s the title of the book?

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  11. Kristopherwrote on August 07th, 2010 at 7:08 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Martin: Same way it was done in the 1600s.

    Embed a chip of hard metal in the side of a brass rod. Make a mechanism out of wood to run the rod in and out of the bore, while slowly turning it. A helical track engaged by a single toothed sprocket attached to the rod will work.

    Use shims to force the hard cutter against the inside of the bore. Cut a shallow rifle groove. Add more shim. Repeat. When done, rotate the barrel a bit and start the next groove.

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  12. wrangler5wrote on August 07th, 2010 at 5:15 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Sorry, forgot the link (and don’t see an edit button) – see http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/gunsmithing/home-built-rifling-machine-126815/

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  13. wrangler5wrote on August 07th, 2010 at 5:14 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Colonial gunsmiths did it with wooden machines, pulling single tooth cutters through a bore, adjusting for depth of cut with paper shims. (I think there’s a video from Colonial Williamsburg that shows the equipment and the process – I saw it on VHS years ago, and assume it’s available on DVD now.)

    More modern equipment can be made by a reasonably competent machinist. Here’s a link to an old thread on the Practical Machinist forum, which has pix of one machine and links and references to lots of other info.

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  14. Markwrote on August 07th, 2010 at 5:11 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    @Martin, I could never make my own rifled barrel, and Luty assumes you don’t have the machinery/knowledge to do it. But if you purchased a dozen generic barrels (pistol or rifle) at a gun show and included them in a Luty build instead of the hydraulic plumbing, then you would still remain anonymous while gaining range and accuracy over Luty’s original instructions.

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  15. Huh?wrote on August 07th, 2010 at 1:50 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Why? AKs cost like $6 in Romania.

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  16. Stuart the Vikingwrote on August 07th, 2010 at 12:35 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I read the Luty manual a few years ago and was intrigued. I searched, but was unable to find a semi-automatic version. I have no use for a sub-gun because of the legality issues; however, I think (and I would research this before doing anything to make sure) that it would be legal (in my area) to make a semi-automatic firearm at home for personal use. I don’t think it would be legal to build them for sale without proper lic. Does anyone here know? keep in mind I would still recheck with a lawyer before I started, I’m not dumb enough to risk jail time by getting legal advice on the internet.

    s

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  17. mr lorenco _(republic of kosovo)wrote on August 07th, 2010 at 12:07 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    @ AB
    bravo

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  18. ABwrote on August 07th, 2010 at 12:03 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    @G-man
    Looks like an old school laser dot and 1x scope.

    @Martin
    Several of my books actually discuss how to ream a barrel to give it a type of rifling, but they require a lathe and heavy modification of a machine tool part in order to perform such an operation.

    @Steve
    What do you think of showing examples of the books in order to give people an idea of how easily these devices are made?

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    • Steveresponded to AB on August 07th, 2010 at 1:27 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      AB, I don’t mind links being posted to individual pages of the book, but not the whole book as it is copyright.

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  19. Martinwrote on August 06th, 2010 at 4:56 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    @ AB, so right you are.

    I’ve always wondered how you could make a rifled barrel without specialized equipment. I’m familiar with the different processes, but I’m still curious.

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  20. Bobwrote on August 06th, 2010 at 2:37 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    A.B. — I salute your comments.

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  21. G-Manwrote on August 06th, 2010 at 2:02 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    what the heck is that laser/block of wood thing that is sitting on top?

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  22. Fiftycalwrote on August 06th, 2010 at 10:08 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    obviously the answer is to register and TAX machine tools. And appoint “inspectors” to monitor the use of those registered tools.

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  23. hojowrote on August 06th, 2010 at 8:19 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    @AB well said.

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  24. ABwrote on August 05th, 2010 at 11:52 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I’m reading the pdf of the Luty manual right now and there is a great deal of room for improving the design. With basic machining skill and a willingness to try something new, the design can be turned into a carbine type with extended barrel and collapsing stock. Picatinny rails are easily machined as the design is available almost everywhere.

    This is the kind of information governments fear the people have. Not because of felons getting access to guns, not because of a lone machinist making a one-off on a lark, but something more insidious.
    The fact that when those in power try to push us as a people too far, armed insurrection is no longer a vague threat but a quantifiable reality.

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  1. unknown1730wrote on August 15th, 2010 at 5:55 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Damn, did they include a test firing video? I would love to see this gun in action.

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  2. unknown1730wrote on August 15th, 2010 at 1:30 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Oh and the extended mag well is part of the design of luty’s .32 cal machine pistol.

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  3. Suburbanwrote on August 08th, 2010 at 6:21 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    The book, “Improvised Weapons of The American Underground,” has blueprints for a .45ACP submachinegun that uses grease gun mags. Hehe, the book had a lot to do with how I ended up with my nickname.

    IIRC, Delta Press (www.deltapress.com) has this book, and a few other build-your-own-machinegun type books. Just to be safe, I’ll remind everyone that building full-auto firearms is very illegal to everyone that doesn’t have special ATF licensing. The books/plans on how to make them are legal though, at least at the moment.

    I’m somewhat shocked to see that the book is carried by Amazon too.

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  4. Jack Elsewrote on August 07th, 2010 at 1:08 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    What’s the title of the book?

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  5. unknown1730wrote on August 20th, 2010 at 8:54 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Hey, I am wondering if you could get back with the person who built it and ask if they could upload on youtube a test firing video? I think we are all curious to see how this gun would function.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  6. rjmwrote on August 28th, 2010 at 1:24 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Unknown,
    I will email him and see if this can be arranged.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  7. willytwrote on March 21st, 2011 at 4:34 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    The Luty design is a bit off and the safety factor is really low. I bought the book but wont build it, its just not safe under any condition . If Im going to build something like this I want it to be legal and safe. At best the book is good for understanding the way a basic a machine gun works . WHICH IS WHAT THE AUTHOR HAD IN MIND.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  8. unknown1730wrote on September 26th, 2010 at 2:02 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    @rjm:

    Got anything response back from him?

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  9. unknown1730wrote on August 31st, 2010 at 3:53 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    @rjm:

    Ok, you can message me on youtube for any updates, I am “unknown1730″ on there.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  10. rjmwrote on August 28th, 2010 at 1:27 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Oh and to others;
    That IS a laser sight, and the finish is Parkerizing done in a zinc coated
    drywall tub, thus the greenish tint.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  11. Kristopherwrote on August 07th, 2010 at 7:08 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Martin: Same way it was done in the 1600s.

    Embed a chip of hard metal in the side of a brass rod. Make a mechanism out of wood to run the rod in and out of the bore, while slowly turning it. A helical track engaged by a single toothed sprocket attached to the rod will work.

    Use shims to force the hard cutter against the inside of the bore. Cut a shallow rifle groove. Add more shim. Repeat. When done, rotate the barrel a bit and start the next groove.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  12. wrangler5wrote on August 07th, 2010 at 5:15 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Sorry, forgot the link (and don’t see an edit button) – see http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/gunsmithing/home-built-rifling-machine-126815/

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  13. Bobwrote on August 06th, 2010 at 2:37 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    A.B. — I salute your comments.

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  14. Martinwrote on August 06th, 2010 at 4:56 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    @ AB, so right you are.

    I’ve always wondered how you could make a rifled barrel without specialized equipment. I’m familiar with the different processes, but I’m still curious.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  15. G-Manwrote on August 06th, 2010 at 2:02 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    what the heck is that laser/block of wood thing that is sitting on top?

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  16. Fiftycalwrote on August 06th, 2010 at 10:08 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    obviously the answer is to register and TAX machine tools. And appoint “inspectors” to monitor the use of those registered tools.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  17. hojowrote on August 06th, 2010 at 8:19 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    @AB well said.

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  18. ABwrote on August 07th, 2010 at 12:03 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    @G-man
    Looks like an old school laser dot and 1x scope.

    @Martin
    Several of my books actually discuss how to ream a barrel to give it a type of rifling, but they require a lathe and heavy modification of a machine tool part in order to perform such an operation.

    @Steve
    What do you think of showing examples of the books in order to give people an idea of how easily these devices are made?

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
    • Steveresponded to AB on August 07th, 2010 at 1:27 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      AB, I don’t mind links being posted to individual pages of the book, but not the whole book as it is copyright.

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  19. mr lorenco _(republic of kosovo)wrote on August 07th, 2010 at 12:07 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    @ AB
    bravo

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  20. wrangler5wrote on August 07th, 2010 at 5:14 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Colonial gunsmiths did it with wooden machines, pulling single tooth cutters through a bore, adjusting for depth of cut with paper shims. (I think there’s a video from Colonial Williamsburg that shows the equipment and the process – I saw it on VHS years ago, and assume it’s available on DVD now.)

    More modern equipment can be made by a reasonably competent machinist. Here’s a link to an old thread on the Practical Machinist forum, which has pix of one machine and links and references to lots of other info.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  21. Markwrote on August 07th, 2010 at 5:11 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    @Martin, I could never make my own rifled barrel, and Luty assumes you don’t have the machinery/knowledge to do it. But if you purchased a dozen generic barrels (pistol or rifle) at a gun show and included them in a Luty build instead of the hydraulic plumbing, then you would still remain anonymous while gaining range and accuracy over Luty’s original instructions.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  22. Huh?wrote on August 07th, 2010 at 1:50 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Why? AKs cost like $6 in Romania.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  23. Stuart the Vikingwrote on August 07th, 2010 at 12:35 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I read the Luty manual a few years ago and was intrigued. I searched, but was unable to find a semi-automatic version. I have no use for a sub-gun because of the legality issues; however, I think (and I would research this before doing anything to make sure) that it would be legal (in my area) to make a semi-automatic firearm at home for personal use. I don’t think it would be legal to build them for sale without proper lic. Does anyone here know? keep in mind I would still recheck with a lawyer before I started, I’m not dumb enough to risk jail time by getting legal advice on the internet.

    s

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  24. ABwrote on August 05th, 2010 at 11:52 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I’m reading the pdf of the Luty manual right now and there is a great deal of room for improving the design. With basic machining skill and a willingness to try something new, the design can be turned into a carbine type with extended barrel and collapsing stock. Picatinny rails are easily machined as the design is available almost everywhere.

    This is the kind of information governments fear the people have. Not because of felons getting access to guns, not because of a lone machinist making a one-off on a lark, but something more insidious.
    The fact that when those in power try to push us as a people too far, armed insurrection is no longer a vague threat but a quantifiable reality.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 1

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