CAA Tactical RONI-G1 Glock Carbine Kit
CAA Tactical are selling a new Glock Carbine conversion kit called the RONI-G1 for €380 (US$567 at the current exchange rate).
More information and a video at Armed & Amphibious.
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J.B.wrote on August 20th, 2011 at 1:03 am Link To Comment |
And the biggest idiot award goes to Goose, “no need of any STAMP knowitalls. You ain’t converting a Long Rifle into a SBR, you are attaching support to a pistol. If you can own a pistol you can own this. You morons crack me up”. He is right about one thing, you’re not converting a long rifle into an SBR, you’re converting a pistol into an SBR. Either way you Do need the ATF Form 1 and a $200 tax stamp. You can’t even add a front grip to a pistol, without a stock, without registering it as an SBR. Have fun explaining that logic to the ATF. Just remember when you are that you have the right to remain silent.
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Joewrote on November 12th, 2010 at 7:28 am Link To Comment |
I think its actually not a bad idea, im guessing it comes with a slightly longer barrell so accuracy might be better? and i think it looks cool. if you have had your glock for a long time maybe you might want some change. its like bein married for 10 years and your wife gets some DD implants, mostly cosmetic but looks nice
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andywrote on August 07th, 2011 at 2:03 am Link To Comment |
is this compatible with glock 23C – the compensated version? can it widthstand the outburst from the compensators?
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Jimbowrote on January 15th, 2010 at 6:09 pm Link To Comment |
Thanks for stating the obvious, Liz
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Just-in-casewrote on April 20th, 2011 at 8:58 am Link To Comment |
Well said…it would also come in handy if you live in a big city(ie…chicago)
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Joustwrote on February 17th, 2010 at 3:00 pm Link To Comment |
Hi
To all:The point of these “pistol carbine/stock” systems are for countries like Israel, where civilians may only own a pistol not a rifle.
In these places, stocks are legal and legitimate accessories (they have a different definition of pistol).
You guys are not the demographic, just be happy that you can get something better, and don’t detract from those who cant.
Joust
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Arthur B. Burnettwrote on November 25th, 2009 at 7:23 am Link To Comment |
Greetings from Texas,
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shawkiwrote on January 16th, 2011 at 10:26 am Link To Comment |
i want to buy this tictical
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Aaronwrote on January 31st, 2011 at 2:46 pm Link To Comment |
Well, I can see how most people are kind of skeptical about this kit, but as a police officer, it has merit. My department makes us carry our carbines in the trunk of our patrol units in a locked rack. The RONI kit is a phenomenal tool for my active shooter bag (or Go-bag). I carry this bag on the front passenger floorboard of my patrol unit every day on patrol. I have an extra Glock pistol, 5 extra mags for my Glock model 22 .40 cal, 100 rounds boxed, chem lights, extra radio battery, gunshot trauma kits, and my RONI. I got mine for $399 + the $200 ATF SBR stamp. Now, I have a .40 cal carbine with 121 rounds loaded and ready to go just waiting for that day when some jackamo decides to shoot up a public place. This kit gives me the peace of mind of having a carbine at my fingertips instead of worrying that people are being killed while I’m trying to unlock my AR-15 from the trunk. Sure, a rifle round would be preferred, but in a pinch, the .40 cal is a good round with good velocity and mass.
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Vanwrote on February 27th, 2011 at 5:15 am Link To Comment |
It is obvious to me that the detractors do not own a Roni, and have limited knowledge in firearm handling in general. For starters, why always assume that everything is made for the US market? Next, as has been pointed out already, consider the benefits of owning a carbine conversion kit, if you are already the owner of a Glock. I will tell you, as an IPSC shooter, that my groupings with the carbine kit are far superior than without. I will also tell you that accuracy improves further, with the addition of 3X magnification sights, flashlight and any other paraphenalia you may need. These are not achievable with the Glock alone. Moreover, as for those that criticise the use of handgun rounds in carbines. You are aware that the 9×19 round has been in carbine use for a long time? That aside, you are aware that by changing your Glock barrel, you can chamber 9mmP+ ammo, with supersonic velocities of around 1350fps?
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Jackwrote on April 19th, 2010 at 5:48 pm Link To Comment |
Wow…great stuff…wow…great for CQB!!
Guys gona make something for the Smithies M&P?
Cheers okes!
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JPwrote on December 07th, 2010 at 6:30 am Link To Comment |
I fell this is an amazing system. There are several things to think about here. Lets say you carry your weapon concealed all the time, now you have the option to home and throw you Glock in this carbine kit. This could be very handy. If you have ever fired a rifle or carbine of any type you have to admit there is usually better precision and accuracy. For $400-$500 (providing you already own a glock) you now have a handgun and a carbine. This can be a great choice if money is an issue or if you just don’t want to own another gun.
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Stephenwrote on May 07th, 2010 at 8:12 pm Link To Comment |
I think this item will appeal to people dependant on in which country they reside and what their particular aplication will be. Take the GLOCK, make it full auto with a high cap mag and slap it into the RONI-G1. Now you have something similar to the mini/micro Uzi. You can fire full auto off a stable platform. Not everyone may like it or think it will work for them but there are applications it will work and in countries that will allow the short barrel setup. This will be perfect in SA against vehicle hijackers where a hi-jacking occurs 7 minutes.
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paulwrote on April 21st, 2011 at 6:45 am Link To Comment |
i shot this kit with the glock 17 yesterday & at 20M using a red dot, shooting from the shoulder on semi-auto i made a 3″ grouping from 25 rounds & i am no hot shot. you still feel some recoil, but the accuracy is spectacular for joe citizen.
i am in canada & fwiw, we are only allowed 5-round magazines in ANY rifle, AR-15 & other carbines inc. also, to shoot a carbine, one needs to use licensed facilities where one signs a waiver & becomes a temporary member & then only in the rifle bays. so imagine the “fun” of taking your AR-15 there & shooting off 5-rounds, then reloading, the shooting off 5 then reloading … makes for a great rhythm hey?!
the roni g-1 is a fancy slip-cover as it were, but the positive is – as others have said – you get a super light-weight carbine when you want it & with merely slipping off the cover, a neat, safe & relatively accurate handgun with none of the hassle of carrying a full carbine.
i am licensed for both restricted & unrestricted weapons. carbines & handguns come under restricted. normal rifles & shotties come under unrestricted.
depends where you live!
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Birdmanwrote on May 18th, 2010 at 3:15 pm Link To Comment |
We just tested one of these this afternoon. We took two identical Glocks, both chambered in .40 S&W but one equiped with the carbine conversion. We handed both of them to someone who was familiar with firearms in general, but not an experienced pistol shooter, and had him fire each one alternately until he’d used up a box of shells. At 5 and 10 meter ranges, his grouping with the regular pistol was between 10 and 15 centimeters. With the carbine, his grouping was aproximately 5 centimeters at both ranges. I think that says it all.
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mr leewrote on April 06th, 2010 at 3:24 am Link To Comment |
common guys
even if it doesnt make the glock more accurate it is still a “nice dress”
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colin pearsonwrote on August 19th, 2010 at 5:28 am Link To Comment |
hi i think the roni is awsome, but i have a s&w sigma is there some thing for my firearm.to sell my s&w and get a glock in south afrika will take me more than a year to get a license .
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sharkywrote on May 08th, 2010 at 6:50 pm Link To Comment |
I am getting mine in the next few weeks. On the waiting list for the 2nd delivery from our South African distributor.
Preliminary testing by some friends show it to be very reliable and capable of very quick stable shooting.
Contrary to the Mall Ninja approach this also brings accuracy and control to weaker framed people. Kids shoot this thing really well.
Like the man from Finland says, this is ideal for our laws as we can do what we want to the gun without a long license application. In those countries where semi auto rifles and carbines are banned this is a perfect way to get sighting and lighting options on your handgun.
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Pedrowrote on June 01st, 2011 at 7:26 am Link To Comment |
I’m from Portugal and i would like to know how is possible to buy an Roni G1 to convert my Glock 19, can you provive me more information, please??? Thanks
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Ken Crosswrote on August 24th, 2011 at 2:45 pm Link To Comment |
A friend has this kit and it shoots great—-nice conversion kit
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LordBanewrote on August 19th, 2011 at 6:27 am Link To Comment |
Can anyone tell me:
If a glock 17 is converted to FA (only in THEORY!!!) with one of these back plate replacements, can the glock still be mounted into a Roni?
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KMTDwrote on September 09th, 2011 at 3:47 pm Link To Comment |
To the guys asking about the fully auto glocks working in the roni they do, just go on youtube. Ive seen i guy with an 18c put 2 thirty round mags through it in about 5 seconds and it looked pretty fun.(wish i could do that here in the great white north).
Ive been wanting one for a while im parshall to the olive green but id be happy with black. theshootingedge has a cayote tan but even though that was the one i tryed out (and loved) im holding out for the colors i prefer.
SO!! If anyone out there can hook a fellow canuck up i would greatly appreciate it.
By the way isn’t it hilarious how when this blog started and it was a new product everybody and thier uncle was ripping on it and know 2 years later almost evryone is writing good things.
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ghettoplumberwrote on September 12th, 2011 at 4:54 am Link To Comment |
wow.good idea but is it me or is this shit way to expensive!!
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joey landisresponded to ghettoplumber on October 30th, 2011 at 8:07 am Link To Comment |
i agree it cost them prob $100 to make that its way to expensive!
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mike joneswrote on September 14th, 2011 at 3:23 pm Link To Comment |
Is this legal in california?…
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micawrote on July 14th, 2011 at 9:28 am Link To Comment |
now if i got a choice on a SBR ill stick to my mare,s leg over that POS any day of the week why would any one want to mount a glock like that in plastic a stock on a glock maby but the rest is just over killl BS
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BL.MJwrote on July 02nd, 2011 at 8:38 am Link To Comment |
To all the nay sayers- Very fun to shoot with 33rd mag, rocket trigger, the optional brass catcher, and an AAC Ti-Rant 9mm suppressor. True this is not something you would take to war but it is a fun toy. One thing I do not like- it only takes cylindrical silencers. I would much rather shoot my Silencerco Osprey. If you love Glocks you will probably love this stock.
Since Glock parts are largely interchangeable between models you only need to SBR one Glock frame and can swap slides and ejectors to change calibers. The G20/G21 version is coming out soon and those frames are completely identical down to the ejectors so even easier to change calibers.
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Glock Shooterwrote on June 11th, 2011 at 6:04 am Link To Comment |
The Mech-tech conversion has been around for a while and should have no legal problems with ownership but it can only be used with Glocks & 1911 Frames. after seeing the NFA problems with this one i think will save for a Mech-tech conversion instead.
http://www.mechtechsys.com/glock.php
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Calebwrote on November 25th, 2009 at 2:41 am Link To Comment |
That…is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen.
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JDHwrote on June 12th, 2011 at 12:22 am Link To Comment |
Man…I can tell the critics are all a bunch of “happy campers”,one never knows “what they might/or when they might need” something.Take it for what it is or don’t!
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Billwrote on June 18th, 2011 at 3:00 am Link To Comment |
Had the chance to shoot one of these yesterday and it was a major HOOT! This would be the only reason for me to purchase a Glock (the only other firearms for which they are made for are Sigs). Was easily making consistent hits inside a 4″ diameter target from 30′ with a red dot optic. Highly recommended fun!
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jamiebwrote on June 25th, 2011 at 1:40 pm Link To Comment |
It looks mall ninja so I am sure that’s why some detractors don’t like it. I am looking for a 9mm or 45 carbine. This interests me quite a bit. Calebor anyone please share how this is inferior than a 45 tommy gun, 9 or 45 uzi, 9mm ar15.
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Kevinwrote on April 23rd, 2011 at 6:56 am Link To Comment |
I shot the Roni at teh Shot Show Media Day, and really liked it. Quality was high, the fun factor even higher.
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Redchromewrote on January 21st, 2010 at 3:56 pm Link To Comment |
@Liz
Under NH law, there’s no license required to conceal a ‘long gun’… I don’t know the exact definition the state law uses; but it has occurred to me that if you were to get a pistol registered as an SBR, you could conceal it without a licence.
That said, I wouldn’t advise it.
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Arthur B. Burnettwrote on November 25th, 2009 at 11:55 am Link To Comment |
Greetings from Texas,
Not disputing what the detractors say, I still like it. All through firearm history shoulder stocks have been added to handguns, Colt Dragoons and the Colt 1860, Broomhandle Mauser, even some of the High Powers and 1911s had stocks that could be added.
Probably my favorite was the Luger, the only tactical situation I would use a Luger in. As I explain it in my Weapon’s for Writers program the stock dose nothing to improve a handguns range but it helps steady it up for longer shots. The Luger Snail Drum Mag gives you 32 chances to nail the sucker! Still might not hit anything but it will unnerve your opsite numbers.Please rate this comment: 0 0 -
CMathewswrote on November 25th, 2009 at 10:17 am Link To Comment |
SpudGun,
Lets leave Master Chief out of this one lol.
But yes its absurd. I’m no Glock fanatic, I do own one but I don’t claim it to be the best thing in the world. But this…. It’s a waste of a perfectly good handgun into what is probably an unreliable system.
…Master Chief wouldn’t have any part of it
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Lancewrote on November 25th, 2009 at 7:53 am Link To Comment |
Sorry that just a waste of a Glock. Pistol Caliber carbine are a waste of money and time.
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SpudGunwrote on November 25th, 2009 at 12:59 pm Link To Comment |
Apologies to CMathews for slurring Master Chief’s reputation.
I guess I’m just jealous that the design is Pat Pending, so I won’t be the first to show it off at a Blackwater Carbine Course – imagine the looks of respect I’d get off all the ex-SF guys. They’d rate me as a ‘leet pro’.
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Cmathewswrote on November 25th, 2009 at 1:31 pm Link To Comment |
SpudGun,
Apologies accepted. lol
I’m sure the boys at Xe would love to see this Uber 1337 piece of machinery.
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JLAwrote on January 18th, 2010 at 3:45 pm Link To Comment |
Well it does look like it could be fun to shoot, though it’s not something I’d spend my money on. I’ve used CAA’s stuff on both AR’s & AK’s with good results, so I don’t doubt that it would work as advertised. Still, if you’re up for a Glock carbine that’s also an NFA weapon it would be easier to simply put a Fobus stock on it for a whole lot less money. If you want a truly useful pistol caliber carbine that uses Glock magazines and IS NOT an NFA weapon you could get a Kel-tec SUB-2000. I’ve got one of these that I keep along with a Glock 22 stored in a briefcase in my car. I can carry it anywhere without drawing even a curious glance and it is always at the ready. No it’s not a .223 or a .308 (Kel-tec’s new RFB bullpup .308 is really sweet BTW!), but it’s a hell of a lot easier to hit with at distance than a pistol and is entirely effective out to at least 100yds. Though I would really like to see then bring out versions in .357Sig and/or .45ACP and/or 10mm! (.400 Corbon would be cool too!)
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Bugswrote on November 25th, 2009 at 4:43 pm Link To Comment |
This is like the aluminum Christmas tree in the Charlie Brown special before he gets one that suits the task.
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Norbertwrote on November 25th, 2009 at 6:54 am Link To Comment |
Not to mention that the Aimpoint Micro T-1 is on backwards – confidence inspiring…
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Tuxwrote on November 25th, 2009 at 6:47 am Link To Comment |
It’s like a glock went to trick-or-treating as an smg.
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Carlwrote on November 25th, 2009 at 3:45 am Link To Comment |
I’m a bit sceptical as well…
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ABwrote on November 25th, 2009 at 3:20 am Link To Comment |
This is a joke, right?
Tell me this is a joke.
You’re not laughing.
Damn.The engineers must have been smoking peyote for a week straight.
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John Bear Rosswrote on November 25th, 2009 at 3:58 am Link To Comment |
Maybe, if it took a G20 frame, and was chambered in .224 BOZ, it would be more interesting as a PDW. As is, is looks like it’s just a “slipcover” for a conventional Glock pistol, as that appears to be a regular slide poking through underneath the carbine unit. Too bulky for too little return, especially in conventional handgun chamberings. To each, their own. It would require a 16″ conversion barrel to be legal here in the States without a $200 Short-Barrel Rifle tax stamp.
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Petewrote on November 25th, 2009 at 5:22 am Link To Comment |
Make sure you add the $200 tax to SBR it to the final cost.
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GetGunInCanadawrote on November 25th, 2009 at 6:31 am Link To Comment |
Why on earth wouldn’t you just buy a carbine?
Would this be considered making an SBR or AOW?
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El Duderinowrote on November 25th, 2009 at 6:19 am Link To Comment |
What a great idea! Convert a small, handy, high-capacity Glock into a huge, unwieldy “carbine” with lights, optics, etc. The ONLY application I could see would be cash strapped PDs in need of patrol carbines using older Glocks to make em — but not at $600 for just the stock/barrel w/o accessories! Try for a $200 price point CAA Tactical.
I am going to produce a similar kit. It will convert your .45 Colt/.410 derringer into a 20″ combo rifle with Weaver scope mounts, adjustable stock, and sling swivels. MSRP $1000
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El Duderinowrote on November 25th, 2009 at 5:51 pm Link To Comment |
Too bad I’ll have to take off the Nyte-Sytes from my Glock 17 to install this carbine kit
http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=41002
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justdavidwrote on November 25th, 2009 at 5:34 pm Link To Comment |
CAA. Suuuuuuure. Have yet to handle anything they make, that I’d buy.
Anyone else unable to see “RONI-G1″ without “Rooney gun” going through their mind?
This only works with Glocks with accessory rails. Wonder which other rail-equipped pistol will be next to see one of these monstrosities? Probably not 1911s, too few have rails — but if more had rails I’d bet on a 1911 model appearing. (CAA probably got the idea from looking at Mech Tech’s conversions.)
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Commander McBraggwrote on November 26th, 2009 at 5:08 am Link To Comment |
Ahem, WHY is there not a disclaimer that this is a NFA item? Aside from any practical considerations I would NOT want that thing anywhere NEAR a Glock pistol.. can you say club Fed?
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Wallywrote on December 18th, 2009 at 3:30 pm Link To Comment |
It needs more flat surfaces for stickers. Oh, and a bayonet.
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Goosewrote on December 30th, 2009 at 10:13 am Link To Comment |
OKAY Geniuous.
Have you ever seen a CS? ( corner shot )
Same principal applies here, it gives you a little more aimpoint and no need to trash it. Don’t like ? don’t buy it……………………..
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Goosewrote on December 30th, 2009 at 10:15 am Link To Comment |
Follow up:
no need of any STAMP knowitalls. You ain’t converting a Long Rifle into a SBR, you are attaching support to a pistol. If you can own a pistol you can own this.
You morons crack me up
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Danielwrote on January 01st, 2010 at 5:21 am Link To Comment |
Would it be possible to get around the SBR restriction by screwing on a fake barrel extension that would make it look like it was 16″? I guess that begs the question, how is the barrel defined for a SBR? Does the barrel need to be functional, or is law only concerned with the physical dimensions of the weapon package? If it does not need to be a functional part of the gun, then the Roni conversion is the quickest way to go from sidearm to carbine legally; otherwise, add $200 to the price of owning one.
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Longrangewrote on January 05th, 2010 at 12:44 am Link To Comment |
Why ? Because I can
Legal side
Here in Finland adding stocks and longer barrels to pistols does not require anybody´s permit as long as the modifications are not permament. No SBR fees whatsoever. -> No legal fees, no hassle.
In many jurisdictions in Europe buying a short carbine is MORE of a hassle than buying a pistol.
Financial side
380 USD straight from Israel + S&H means ends user cost in Europe will be less than 50% of what a 9mm Glock costs new and 20% of what a proper 9X19 semiauto carbines costs. -> I will save 1500 USD if I buy this system compared to any AR-15 9X19 carbine. Compared to a semi-auto MP5 made in Pakistan I would save close to 2000 USD.
Shooting side
Putting a locked slide pistol into a stock means the splits between shots will be less and the recoil MUCH less than what would be if the carbine used a typical 1-1,5 pound bolt without any locking system.
I like the looks fo the HERA system better but I believe these will work just as well and have a adjustable stock to boot.
Do not buy it if you do not have any use for it.
- Nobody cares -
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Lizwrote on January 08th, 2010 at 5:10 am Link To Comment |
For those that are interested in avoiding 10 years in prison. That pistol needs a SBR permit before you convert it. Afterwards that Glock firearms is no longer a pistol. It is an SBR and NOT covered in concealed carry laws. So you are committing your Glock pistol to single duty as your carbine for the range and will never legally carry it concealed again. And if you want to sell it. The transfer requires all the trouble of any other SBR or again you face jail time. Don’t take my word for it, ask the BATF or enjoy your stay at club fed.
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GetGunInCanadawrote on November 26th, 2009 at 12:12 pm Link To Comment |
Apparently they’re not worried about if it’s an NFA item or not, because they’re from Israel…
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AK™wrote on December 04th, 2009 at 6:30 pm Link To Comment |
its ok. Nothing spectacular.
For home defense it would be ok. For plinking,I’ve seen others at the range with worse.
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u378wrote on November 30th, 2009 at 12:45 pm Link To Comment |
I like it! And, it will accept a suppressor. Super compact, reliable, high capacity, and quiet…. I’ll take 2 please!
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Daniel E. Watterswrote on November 26th, 2009 at 12:10 pm Link To Comment |
A patent application was just published for a similar design from Canada. This one appears to be less bulky and has a more secure attachment to the Glock’s frame.
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jamiebwrote on October 30th, 2011 at 8:46 am Link To Comment |
i dont think you guys get it. How is this inferior to a regular glock for home use?
How is it inferior to a masterpiece arms mac10, uzi, or mp5?
Also comment on the sweetness of 33 rd glock mags, compared to the above makers mags and cost and availability.
This is two guns in one, and the quoted price is MSRP, not street price right?
I dont have a glock but tons of folks work on the trigger to the tune of $150 since its crap, the sights are shit, thats $120 for trijicons.
Basically if you have a glock or have a mp or xd, i assume in the near future, you will be able to turn the gun you own into a neat carbine for $400 something bucks.
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Audrey Hepburn Loverwrote on January 07th, 2010 at 9:07 am Link To Comment |
From a criminal standpoint (not that I endorse this behavior to give more for the gun grabbers to baww about) this would be a perfect tool. You have the advantage of a stable rifle’s stock and modularity sans the superior rifle round buuut, you can swap barrels, extractors, and firering pins so csi doesn’t find your shit. You can still do all that with an AR or any domestic rifle whos company can provide you with a spare barrel but 9 months for spare parts is too long, It’s real bad for AR barrels.
From my experience, USCs, Vector UZIs, HK-94s, TP9s, Sub2000s, generally most semiauto machine pistols suffer from a HORRIBLE trigger. Accuracy and follow up shots are a bitch. With this tool, you get the advantage of your aftermarket 3.5 pound Glock trigger and crisp disconnector. Short barrel issues can be solved with a Glock 34 or a 17L barrel.
Besides, the Mechtech system is damn ugly.
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glen camenfortewrote on July 19th, 2010 at 9:30 am Link To Comment |
am just wondering if its already available in asian countries like the philippines am a regular shooter with a glock 35 and does it fit with a glock 35?
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Allenwrote on November 26th, 2009 at 4:11 pm Link To Comment |
What a ridiculously feeble attempt at targeting the ‘zombie killing’ Glock genre. That contraption takes the ‘glee’ out of ugly. At least CAA stays consistent and on the cutting edge with there products. Are my tired eyes deceiving me? Flashlight-check, red-dot-check,magnifyer thingy-check.NO LASER????I’m not purchasing the ten I intended on buying without some sort of cheap chinese laser! Soooo Steve, how does it shoot?
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Monstergunguywrote on November 04th, 2010 at 8:56 pm Link To Comment |
If you ever shot a glock 17 converted to full auto-fire or a glock 18 you will realize the recoil is hard to control with one or even two hands on the grip. The later shots end up hitting ducks in the sky. I’ve used the clip on upside down glock clip as a grip and it fell off after a couple rounds due to the recoil. The CAA Roni makes sense if your using full automatic mode otherwise it is superfluous.
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SpudGunwrote on November 25th, 2009 at 6:11 am Link To Comment |
Do you like Malls? Do you like Ninjas? Do you like being laughed at by fellow shooters?
Well all your dreams have come true with this ‘tacky-kewl’ conversion kit! For only $567, you can turn your perfectly ordinary Glock into a collossal joke.*
‘Look at me! I am the bestest and my gun is teh awesome cuz it looks like Master Chief’s!’
*Obviously, that’s if you haven’t already shot yourself with your own Glock.
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jamiebwrote on October 30th, 2011 at 8:58 am Link To Comment |
also you guys should be less afraid of what people say, AND IF SOMETHING IS A GOOD VALUE OR WORKS, or works better, you should use it.
Besides glocks are ugly cheap POS that work, and people love them despite no full rails, plastic trigger, plastic sights, plastic guide rail, yet they still cost $550-600 and people buy them up like crazy even though you are getting “ripped off” if you compared to other guns with superior components, you are getting burned for $300 OR MORE! And there is nothing you can do about the half rails. If glock cared they would make the rails like a cz75 or sig 210. Glocks are designed to be cheap and profitable, not the best. Yet i never heard folks mention this.
They grew up for 20 years with glocks being cool, there for they are seen as cool, not ugly POS that just work surprisingly well.
Bolting something onto a glock ….. “gasp!” thats like bolting a wing on a ferrari or bentley. pssst.
old man glock has ZERO background in industrial design, and cared zero for looks, yet people act as if adding anything to a glock that straws from his inspired design is like pissing or tagging on the sistine chapel.
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also you guys should be less afraid of what people say, AND IF SOMETHING IS A GOOD VALUE OR WORKS, or works better, you should use it.
Besides glocks are ugly cheap POS that work, and people love them despite no full rails, plastic trigger, plastic sights, plastic guide rail, yet they still cost $550-600 and people buy them up like crazy even though you are getting “ripped off” if you compared to other guns with superior components, you are getting burned for $300 OR MORE! And there is nothing you can do about the half rails. If glock cared they would make the rails like a cz75 or sig 210. Glocks are designed to be cheap and profitable, not the best. Yet i never heard folks mention this.
They grew up for 20 years with glocks being cool, there for they are seen as cool, not ugly POS that just work surprisingly well.
Bolting something onto a glock ….. “gasp!” thats like bolting a wing on a ferrari or bentley. pssst.
old man glock has ZERO background in industrial design, and cared zero for looks, yet people act as if adding anything to a glock that straws from his inspired design is like pissing or tagging on the sistine chapel.
i dont think you guys get it. How is this inferior to a regular glock for home use?
How is it inferior to a masterpiece arms mac10, uzi, or mp5?
Also comment on the sweetness of 33 rd glock mags, compared to the above makers mags and cost and availability.
This is two guns in one, and the quoted price is MSRP, not street price right?
I dont have a glock but tons of folks work on the trigger to the tune of $150 since its crap, the sights are shit, thats $120 for trijicons.
Basically if you have a glock or have a mp or xd, i assume in the near future, you will be able to turn the gun you own into a neat carbine for $400 something bucks.
Is this legal in california?…
wow.good idea but is it me or is this shit way to expensive!!
i agree it cost them prob $100 to make that its way to expensive!
To the guys asking about the fully auto glocks working in the roni they do, just go on youtube. Ive seen i guy with an 18c put 2 thirty round mags through it in about 5 seconds and it looked pretty fun.(wish i could do that here in the great white north).
Ive been wanting one for a while im parshall to the olive green but id be happy with black. theshootingedge has a cayote tan but even though that was the one i tryed out (and loved) im holding out for the colors i prefer.
SO!! If anyone out there can hook a fellow canuck up i would greatly appreciate it.
By the way isn’t it hilarious how when this blog started and it was a new product everybody and thier uncle was ripping on it and know 2 years later almost evryone is writing good things.
side note: Goose is an ass hat!
A friend has this kit and it shoots great—-nice conversion kit
And the biggest idiot award goes to Goose, “no need of any STAMP knowitalls. You ain’t converting a Long Rifle into a SBR, you are attaching support to a pistol. If you can own a pistol you can own this. You morons crack me up”. He is right about one thing, you’re not converting a long rifle into an SBR, you’re converting a pistol into an SBR. Either way you Do need the ATF Form 1 and a $200 tax stamp. You can’t even add a front grip to a pistol, without a stock, without registering it as an SBR. Have fun explaining that logic to the ATF. Just remember when you are that you have the right to remain silent.
Can anyone tell me:
If a glock 17 is converted to FA (only in THEORY!!!) with one of these back plate replacements, can the glock still be mounted into a Roni?
is this compatible with glock 23C – the compensated version? can it widthstand the outburst from the compensators?
now if i got a choice on a SBR ill stick to my mare,s leg over that POS any day of the week why would any one want to mount a glock like that in plastic a stock on a glock maby but the rest is just over killl BS
To all the nay sayers- Very fun to shoot with 33rd mag, rocket trigger, the optional brass catcher, and an AAC Ti-Rant 9mm suppressor. True this is not something you would take to war but it is a fun toy. One thing I do not like- it only takes cylindrical silencers. I would much rather shoot my Silencerco Osprey. If you love Glocks you will probably love this stock.
Since Glock parts are largely interchangeable between models you only need to SBR one Glock frame and can swap slides and ejectors to change calibers. The G20/G21 version is coming out soon and those frames are completely identical down to the ejectors so even easier to change calibers.
It looks mall ninja so I am sure that’s why some detractors don’t like it. I am looking for a 9mm or 45 carbine. This interests me quite a bit. Calebor anyone please share how this is inferior than a 45 tommy gun, 9 or 45 uzi, 9mm ar15.
Had the chance to shoot one of these yesterday and it was a major HOOT! This would be the only reason for me to purchase a Glock (the only other firearms for which they are made for are Sigs). Was easily making consistent hits inside a 4″ diameter target from 30′ with a red dot optic. Highly recommended fun!
Man…I can tell the critics are all a bunch of “happy campers”,one never knows “what they might/or when they might need” something.Take it for what it is or don’t!
The Mech-tech conversion has been around for a while and should have no legal problems with ownership but it can only be used with Glocks & 1911 Frames. after seeing the NFA problems with this one i think will save for a Mech-tech conversion instead.
http://www.mechtechsys.com/glock.php
I’m from Portugal and i would like to know how is possible to buy an Roni G1 to convert my Glock 19, can you provive me more information, please??? Thanks
I shot the Roni at teh Shot Show Media Day, and really liked it. Quality was high, the fun factor even higher.
i shot this kit with the glock 17 yesterday & at 20M using a red dot, shooting from the shoulder on semi-auto i made a 3″ grouping from 25 rounds & i am no hot shot. you still feel some recoil, but the accuracy is spectacular for joe citizen.
i am in canada & fwiw, we are only allowed 5-round magazines in ANY rifle, AR-15 & other carbines inc. also, to shoot a carbine, one needs to use licensed facilities where one signs a waiver & becomes a temporary member & then only in the rifle bays. so imagine the “fun” of taking your AR-15 there & shooting off 5-rounds, then reloading, the shooting off 5 then reloading … makes for a great rhythm hey?!
the roni g-1 is a fancy slip-cover as it were, but the positive is – as others have said – you get a super light-weight carbine when you want it & with merely slipping off the cover, a neat, safe & relatively accurate handgun with none of the hassle of carrying a full carbine.
i am licensed for both restricted & unrestricted weapons. carbines & handguns come under restricted. normal rifles & shotties come under unrestricted.
depends where you live!
Well said…it would also come in handy if you live in a big city(ie…chicago)
and TSHTF!!!
It is obvious to me that the detractors do not own a Roni, and have limited knowledge in firearm handling in general. For starters, why always assume that everything is made for the US market? Next, as has been pointed out already, consider the benefits of owning a carbine conversion kit, if you are already the owner of a Glock. I will tell you, as an IPSC shooter, that my groupings with the carbine kit are far superior than without. I will also tell you that accuracy improves further, with the addition of 3X magnification sights, flashlight and any other paraphenalia you may need. These are not achievable with the Glock alone. Moreover, as for those that criticise the use of handgun rounds in carbines. You are aware that the 9×19 round has been in carbine use for a long time? That aside, you are aware that by changing your Glock barrel, you can chamber 9mmP+ ammo, with supersonic velocities of around 1350fps?
Well, I can see how most people are kind of skeptical about this kit, but as a police officer, it has merit. My department makes us carry our carbines in the trunk of our patrol units in a locked rack. The RONI kit is a phenomenal tool for my active shooter bag (or Go-bag). I carry this bag on the front passenger floorboard of my patrol unit every day on patrol. I have an extra Glock pistol, 5 extra mags for my Glock model 22 .40 cal, 100 rounds boxed, chem lights, extra radio battery, gunshot trauma kits, and my RONI. I got mine for $399 + the $200 ATF SBR stamp. Now, I have a .40 cal carbine with 121 rounds loaded and ready to go just waiting for that day when some jackamo decides to shoot up a public place. This kit gives me the peace of mind of having a carbine at my fingertips instead of worrying that people are being killed while I’m trying to unlock my AR-15 from the trunk. Sure, a rifle round would be preferred, but in a pinch, the .40 cal is a good round with good velocity and mass.
i want to buy this tictical
I fell this is an amazing system. There are several things to think about here. Lets say you carry your weapon concealed all the time, now you have the option to home and throw you Glock in this carbine kit. This could be very handy. If you have ever fired a rifle or carbine of any type you have to admit there is usually better precision and accuracy. For $400-$500 (providing you already own a glock) you now have a handgun and a carbine. This can be a great choice if money is an issue or if you just don’t want to own another gun.
I think its actually not a bad idea, im guessing it comes with a slightly longer barrell so accuracy might be better? and i think it looks cool. if you have had your glock for a long time maybe you might want some change. its like bein married for 10 years and your wife gets some DD implants, mostly cosmetic but looks nice
If you ever shot a glock 17 converted to full auto-fire or a glock 18 you will realize the recoil is hard to control with one or even two hands on the grip. The later shots end up hitting ducks in the sky. I’ve used the clip on upside down glock clip as a grip and it fell off after a couple rounds due to the recoil. The CAA Roni makes sense if your using full automatic mode otherwise it is superfluous.
hi i think the roni is awsome, but i have a s&w sigma is there some thing for my firearm.to sell my s&w and get a glock in south afrika will take me more than a year to get a license .
am just wondering if its already available in asian countries like the philippines am a regular shooter with a glock 35 and does it fit with a glock 35?
We just tested one of these this afternoon. We took two identical Glocks, both chambered in .40 S&W but one equiped with the carbine conversion. We handed both of them to someone who was familiar with firearms in general, but not an experienced pistol shooter, and had him fire each one alternately until he’d used up a box of shells. At 5 and 10 meter ranges, his grouping with the regular pistol was between 10 and 15 centimeters. With the carbine, his grouping was aproximately 5 centimeters at both ranges. I think that says it all.
I am getting mine in the next few weeks. On the waiting list for the 2nd delivery from our South African distributor.
Preliminary testing by some friends show it to be very reliable and capable of very quick stable shooting.
Contrary to the Mall Ninja approach this also brings accuracy and control to weaker framed people. Kids shoot this thing really well.
Like the man from Finland says, this is ideal for our laws as we can do what we want to the gun without a long license application. In those countries where semi auto rifles and carbines are banned this is a perfect way to get sighting and lighting options on your handgun.
I think this item will appeal to people dependant on in which country they reside and what their particular aplication will be. Take the GLOCK, make it full auto with a high cap mag and slap it into the RONI-G1. Now you have something similar to the mini/micro Uzi. You can fire full auto off a stable platform. Not everyone may like it or think it will work for them but there are applications it will work and in countries that will allow the short barrel setup. This will be perfect in SA against vehicle hijackers where a hi-jacking occurs 7 minutes.
Wow…great stuff…wow…great for CQB!!
Guys gona make something for the Smithies M&P?
Cheers okes!
common guys
even if it doesnt make the glock more accurate it is still a “nice dress”
Hi
To all:
The point of these “pistol carbine/stock” systems are for countries like Israel, where civilians may only own a pistol not a rifle.
In these places, stocks are legal and legitimate accessories (they have a different definition of pistol).
You guys are not the demographic, just be happy that you can get something better, and don’t detract from those who cant.
Joust
@Liz
Under NH law, there’s no license required to conceal a ‘long gun’… I don’t know the exact definition the state law uses; but it has occurred to me that if you were to get a pistol registered as an SBR, you could conceal it without a licence.
That said, I wouldn’t advise it.
Well it does look like it could be fun to shoot, though it’s not something I’d spend my money on. I’ve used CAA’s stuff on both AR’s & AK’s with good results, so I don’t doubt that it would work as advertised. Still, if you’re up for a Glock carbine that’s also an NFA weapon it would be easier to simply put a Fobus stock on it for a whole lot less money. If you want a truly useful pistol caliber carbine that uses Glock magazines and IS NOT an NFA weapon you could get a Kel-tec SUB-2000. I’ve got one of these that I keep along with a Glock 22 stored in a briefcase in my car. I can carry it anywhere without drawing even a curious glance and it is always at the ready. No it’s not a .223 or a .308 (Kel-tec’s new RFB bullpup .308 is really sweet BTW!), but it’s a hell of a lot easier to hit with at distance than a pistol and is entirely effective out to at least 100yds. Though I would really like to see then bring out versions in .357Sig and/or .45ACP and/or 10mm! (.400 Corbon would be cool too!)
Thanks for stating the obvious, Liz
For those that are interested in avoiding 10 years in prison. That pistol needs a SBR permit before you convert it. Afterwards that Glock firearms is no longer a pistol. It is an SBR and NOT covered in concealed carry laws. So you are committing your Glock pistol to single duty as your carbine for the range and will never legally carry it concealed again. And if you want to sell it. The transfer requires all the trouble of any other SBR or again you face jail time. Don’t take my word for it, ask the BATF or enjoy your stay at club fed.
From a criminal standpoint (not that I endorse this behavior to give more for the gun grabbers to baww about) this would be a perfect tool. You have the advantage of a stable rifle’s stock and modularity sans the superior rifle round buuut, you can swap barrels, extractors, and firering pins so csi doesn’t find your shit. You can still do all that with an AR or any domestic rifle whos company can provide you with a spare barrel but 9 months for spare parts is too long, It’s real bad for AR barrels.
From my experience, USCs, Vector UZIs, HK-94s, TP9s, Sub2000s, generally most semiauto machine pistols suffer from a HORRIBLE trigger. Accuracy and follow up shots are a bitch. With this tool, you get the advantage of your aftermarket 3.5 pound Glock trigger and crisp disconnector. Short barrel issues can be solved with a Glock 34 or a 17L barrel.
Besides, the Mechtech system is damn ugly.
Why ? Because I can
Legal side
Here in Finland adding stocks and longer barrels to pistols does not require anybody´s permit as long as the modifications are not permament. No SBR fees whatsoever. -> No legal fees, no hassle.
In many jurisdictions in Europe buying a short carbine is MORE of a hassle than buying a pistol.
Financial side
380 USD straight from Israel + S&H means ends user cost in Europe will be less than 50% of what a 9mm Glock costs new and 20% of what a proper 9X19 semiauto carbines costs. -> I will save 1500 USD if I buy this system compared to any AR-15 9X19 carbine. Compared to a semi-auto MP5 made in Pakistan I would save close to 2000 USD.
Shooting side
Putting a locked slide pistol into a stock means the splits between shots will be less and the recoil MUCH less than what would be if the carbine used a typical 1-1,5 pound bolt without any locking system.
I like the looks fo the HERA system better but I believe these will work just as well and have a adjustable stock to boot.
Do not buy it if you do not have any use for it.
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Would it be possible to get around the SBR restriction by screwing on a fake barrel extension that would make it look like it was 16″? I guess that begs the question, how is the barrel defined for a SBR? Does the barrel need to be functional, or is law only concerned with the physical dimensions of the weapon package? If it does not need to be a functional part of the gun, then the Roni conversion is the quickest way to go from sidearm to carbine legally; otherwise, add $200 to the price of owning one.
Follow up:
no need of any STAMP knowitalls. You ain’t converting a Long Rifle into a SBR, you are attaching support to a pistol. If you can own a pistol you can own this.
You morons crack me up
OKAY Geniuous.
Have you ever seen a CS? ( corner shot )
Same principal applies here, it gives you a little more aimpoint and no need to trash it. Don’t like ? don’t buy it……………………..
It needs more flat surfaces for stickers. Oh, and a bayonet.
its ok. Nothing spectacular.
For home defense it would be ok. For plinking,I’ve seen others at the range with worse.
I like it! And, it will accept a suppressor. Super compact, reliable, high capacity, and quiet…. I’ll take 2 please!
What a ridiculously feeble attempt at targeting the ‘zombie killing’ Glock genre. That contraption takes the ‘glee’ out of ugly. At least CAA stays consistent and on the cutting edge with there products. Are my tired eyes deceiving me? Flashlight-check, red-dot-check,magnifyer thingy-check.NO LASER????I’m not purchasing the ten I intended on buying without some sort of cheap chinese laser! Soooo Steve, how does it shoot?
Apparently they’re not worried about if it’s an NFA item or not, because they’re from Israel…
A patent application was just published for a similar design from Canada. This one appears to be less bulky and has a more secure attachment to the Glock’s frame.
http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=8&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PG01&s1=firearm&OS=firearm&RS=firearm
Ahem, WHY is there not a disclaimer that this is a NFA item? Aside from any practical considerations I would NOT want that thing anywhere NEAR a Glock pistol.. can you say club Fed?
Too bad I’ll have to take off the Nyte-Sytes from my Glock 17 to install this carbine kit
http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=41002
CAA. Suuuuuuure. Have yet to handle anything they make, that I’d buy.
Anyone else unable to see “RONI-G1″ without “Rooney gun” going through their mind?
This only works with Glocks with accessory rails. Wonder which other rail-equipped pistol will be next to see one of these monstrosities? Probably not 1911s, too few have rails — but if more had rails I’d bet on a 1911 model appearing. (CAA probably got the idea from looking at Mech Tech’s conversions.)
This is like the aluminum Christmas tree in the Charlie Brown special before he gets one that suits the task.
SpudGun,
Apologies accepted. lol
I’m sure the boys at Xe would love to see this Uber 1337 piece of machinery.
Apologies to CMathews for slurring Master Chief’s reputation.
I guess I’m just jealous that the design is Pat Pending, so I won’t be the first to show it off at a Blackwater Carbine Course – imagine the looks of respect I’d get off all the ex-SF guys. They’d rate me as a ‘leet pro’.
Greetings from Texas,
Not disputing what the detractors say, I still like it. All through firearm history shoulder stocks have been added to handguns, Colt Dragoons and the Colt 1860, Broomhandle Mauser, even some of the High Powers and 1911s had stocks that could be added.
Probably my favorite was the Luger, the only tactical situation I would use a Luger in. As I explain it in my Weapon’s for Writers program the stock dose nothing to improve a handguns range but it helps steady it up for longer shots. The Luger Snail Drum Mag gives you 32 chances to nail the sucker! Still might not hit anything but it will unnerve your opsite numbers.
SpudGun,
Lets leave Master Chief out of this one lol.
But yes its absurd. I’m no Glock fanatic, I do own one but I don’t claim it to be the best thing in the world. But this…. It’s a waste of a perfectly good handgun into what is probably an unreliable system.
…Master Chief wouldn’t have any part of it
Sorry that just a waste of a Glock. Pistol Caliber carbine are a waste of money and time.
Greetings from Texas,
I like it! This could be all kinds of fun.
Not to mention that the Aimpoint Micro T-1 is on backwards – confidence inspiring…
It’s like a glock went to trick-or-treating as an smg.
It’s almost cute.
Why on earth wouldn’t you just buy a carbine?
Would this be considered making an SBR or AOW?
What a great idea! Convert a small, handy, high-capacity Glock into a huge, unwieldy “carbine” with lights, optics, etc. The ONLY application I could see would be cash strapped PDs in need of patrol carbines using older Glocks to make em — but not at $600 for just the stock/barrel w/o accessories! Try for a $200 price point CAA Tactical.
I am going to produce a similar kit. It will convert your .45 Colt/.410 derringer into a 20″ combo rifle with Weaver scope mounts, adjustable stock, and sling swivels. MSRP $1000
Do you like Malls? Do you like Ninjas? Do you like being laughed at by fellow shooters?
Well all your dreams have come true with this ‘tacky-kewl’ conversion kit! For only $567, you can turn your perfectly ordinary Glock into a collossal joke.*
‘Look at me! I am the bestest and my gun is teh awesome cuz it looks like Master Chief’s!’
*Obviously, that’s if you haven’t already shot yourself with your own Glock.
Make sure you add the $200 tax to SBR it to the final cost.
Maybe, if it took a G20 frame, and was chambered in .224 BOZ, it would be more interesting as a PDW. As is, is looks like it’s just a “slipcover” for a conventional Glock pistol, as that appears to be a regular slide poking through underneath the carbine unit. Too bulky for too little return, especially in conventional handgun chamberings. To each, their own. It would require a 16″ conversion barrel to be legal here in the States without a $200 Short-Barrel Rifle tax stamp.
Best,
JBR
I’m a bit sceptical as well…
I like the idea of storing spare magazines in the stock though.
This is a joke, right?
Tell me this is a joke.
You’re not laughing.
Damn.
The engineers must have been smoking peyote for a week straight.
That…is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen.