Has China developed a PDW based on the QBZ-95?
UPDATE: I was wrong. This is the QBZ-95B (The sailors white gloves are covering the barrel).
Earlier this month there was a huge military parade celebrating the 60th anniversary of People's Republic of China. I was astounded to see a photo from the event of what appears to be a sub-carbine version of the QBZ-95 being carried by Chinese sailors.
To the best of my knowledge the existence of this weapon has never been reported. The barrel is definetly shorter than the 14.5" of the QBZ-95B (Carbine) that was developed for use in the Navy. I suspect the sub-carbine / PDW has a 10" or 11" barrel.
QBZ-95B Carbine. Photo from Wikipedia.
Has anyone here heard of a QBZ-95 PDW?
Thanks to Caleb for sending me the link to the Chinese parade photos.
the qbz-03 was not made to replace the qbz-95, but rather made for paratroopers. the qbz-03 was more compact when folded which made it more convenient for jumping out of an airplane and the fact that the sights are more widely spaced means that the lines of sight is more accurate than the qbz-95, a significant feature considering that paratroopers usually drop behind enemy lines and need to shoot accurately and conservatively.
Ejection and trigger pull has allegedly been solved by Kel-Tec’s RFB.
Belted ammo and drums seems like a non-issue for a service rifle.
Supposedly the RFB has several hardened steel sheets protecting the shooters face. I’d like to see this tested though.
the drawbacks of bullup rifles.
1. case ejection port is close to user’s chest. this design is not for lefties.
2. trigger pull is too heavy due to the connection rod.
3. can’t use belted ammo or drum magazine.
4. if any kaboom, the user will be injured severely since the bolt is right under his cheek.
those guns which are designed by PLA usually keep the similar looking
just like the Russia cousin for short training time for new gen. fire arms
but those china made guns may have difference design and mechanism
so don’t be so serious about shape and size to conjecture their relation
the same thing happen on Taiwan T-65 series AR too
in the early stage T65 look alike a her USA parent AR 18
but at the mess produced T-65K2
it look like a AR15 type than AR 18 ‘s one
but it’s still keeping the ar 18 refined mechanism
[some said it work much alike the HK416's]
Jdun1911, dont generalize all bullpups. The Tavor has been very well received by israeli and colombian troops, the Kel-Tec RFB is getting great reviews.
So why is bullpup a bad design? The ar15.com thread didn’t explain why this would be the case.
I am a chinese boy ,firearm fans,95B was made in 1997,it is not a PDW,but shot carbine,used by the solders on naval fleet and special police force.ballistic was not good.
Yep, you guys are right. The gloves are covering the barrel. I have updated the blog post.
Kyle is right. You can see some muzzle extending beyond the white gloves.
It looks like those Chinese sailors came off the same assembly line as the carbines. Those guys are clones!
Actually those guns were published in Milipol 2006. Photos of them are visible in Rekyyli-magazine (finnish only) at page 75 on this online-sample issue:
http://www.rekyyli.fi/naytenumero/
Jarkko, are you able to post a link to a screenshot of page 75. I can’t figure out how to get the example issue.
Oh someone posted a link to your site for the Type 03. Didn’t know you have a article on the rifle or maybe I just forgot about it.
I’m not an expert on Chinese weapons but someone did mention on AR15.com that the QBZ-95 was a disappointment. They went back to a conventional design instead of bullpup with the Type 03.
They found out really fast why bullpup are bad design. Good for them.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=2&t=293193
I’m pretty sure that’s the existing short-barreled QBZ model. The type 05 SMG lacks the foregrip and the magazine is very wide and short because it’s quad stack design. I think Kyle has it right, it looks shorter than it is because their gloves are covering the barrel and blending in with their shirts.
just looks like a short type 97….
More and more Chicom JUNK. The chinese are make a carnine of there QBZ-97 rifle.
Same thing -but since they are holding the bbl protrusion with their white gloves, it looks shorter.
Pretty impressive, they are gearing up across the board. Especially their new Jin-Class SSBN program on Hainan Island.
Oh, and I love the ladies uniforms – knee high boots and short skirts.
I wonder how well the chinese 5.8mm performs in short barrels, one of the weakest points of the western 5.56mm.
It could be the QCW-05:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QCW-05
(there’s a picture towards the bottom of the page)
Grumpy, good call. It is really hard to see the size of the magazines due to the angle of the photo. It does seem to me that the mags look bigger than the QCW pistol magazines.
What do you guys think?
I believe those are the same gun, at least that’s what I figured when watch the parade.