Chiappa 1911-22 pistol
The Chiappa 1911-22 is a .22 pistol patterned after the M1911. The action is not that of a 1911, but a fixed-barrel recoil system and is manufactured from steel and "Chiappalloy" (presumably a pot metal).
| Specifications | |
|---|---|
| Caliber | .22 Long Rifle |
| Capacity | 10 rounds |
| Grip | Wood |
| Barrel | 5" / 6 grooves |
| Twist | 1:16" |
| Total Length | 9" |
| Weight | 32 ounces |
| Price | $265+ depending on model |
| Availability | Now |
The market for this pistol, and its not-yet-on-sale competitors the GSG 1911, are 1911 shooters who want to practice with cheap ammunition but would rather have a dedicated gun than purchasing a .22 conversion kit and having to swap it in and out of their .45 1911.
With the GSG 1911 being made of steel and weighing as much as a real 1911 (and even having some part compatibility), I guess I’m going to overlook the slight difference in price with the Chippa and go with the GSG.
(when it will be out, that is)
Chiappa…. or so says Google and all the forums… just a heads up
Thanks, fixed.
Very interesting. I’ll wait to see how much the GSG ends up costing but if there is a $100 price difference I might get the Chiappa. Though if the GSG is actually made of steel and not zinc that might be a determining factor.
The GSG M1911 is made of zinc alloy, like this.
The Kimar M1911 is originally made as blankfirer (gas-alarm gun), not for real ammo, and it is zinc, too.
http://www.gazpisztoly.hu/gazpisztoly/kimar_911.158.php
WANT!
Unless the slide is really buff up(high point pistols), from personal experience you do not want it made out of pot metal even for a .22lr.
I have seen a number Sig mosquito and Walther P22 slide break in half because the company went cheap on the metal.
gotta agree with jdun, i lost the url for the company website, i’ll go back and find it in a few minutes, its “armi chiappa”. from the web site pic it does look like they modified their blank firer with a steel slide and barrel as a straight blowback .22. i don’t see a grip safety or mainspring housing, the frame looks to be a solid casting, i’d agree too that it looks like pot metal. if i could afford a .22 m1911a1 clone i’d go with the gsg m1911, from what i’ve read its all steel.
“gunner”
vak,
just for curiosity, what parts of the gsg m1911 are interchangeable with a colt m1911a1 .45?
“gunner”
I’ve had tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of rounds through my P22 without any issues other than failure to feeds due to me being lazy and not cleaning it for a brick or two of ammo.
The only P22 that I’ve actually seen the pictures of with a busted slide had a user installed 5″ barrel and shroud that wasn’t installed very well and caused the slide to slam into the back of the shroud.
Is there a link to the manufacturers site for this one anywhere?
@gunner
They advertize it as being 80% part compatible with a classic (read .45) 1911. So, I’d say the frame and the biggest part of the internals are compatible , with the barrel, magazine, firing pin assembly, ejector, return spring and slide being obviously not interchangeable with .45 components.
Let me repeat: the GSG M1911 is ZINC. NOT STEEL, I had it in my hand. That gun is MANUFACTURED by the very same company as the “SIG” Mosquito.
Gotta say I’m not impressed with the marketing. “Chiapalloy” sounds too much like cheap alloy. Maybe they are just being honest.
thanks val
this is where Armscorp/RIA could step in and make a .22 1911, for about the same price as one of the basic .45 1911s they have.. which i think would be great, since they are steel and they have experience making 1911s..
these .22 1911s are no more than airsofts/blank guns that have been converted to .22.. and they will not last with the punishment that firing 10’s of thousands of rounds through..
the P22 does break.. there are many, many problems with it.. all of which could be solved by using MIM steel, instead of Zamac alloy.. but, it would price it out, and Umarex wouldn’t be able to produce it.. most of the problems with the P22 can be worked out, if you read the “P-22 Bible” for the mods that help with the quirks.. the only other problem is the slide cracking.. some crack from the counter weight being too close to the slide, or from the recoil spring wearing out and the slide battering the frame.. (some have used PVC tubing as shock buffers to great effect)
i really like the P-22.. but it has so many quirks for the cost.. it’s a good thing that S&W will replace them if you have problems with it.. but, that’s also an indicator of how cheap they are to make..
REPLY ME QUESTION
Dear Mr. Fenixom ,
Our pistol are made of Zamak with a barrel liner in steel. The only piece made of plastic is the magazine. We will sell it with only one magazine out of the box.
The warranty covers damages for one year after the purchase. The pistol is around 1Kg of weight.
Our pistol guarantee an excellent price-quality comparison.
It is not on the market yet, probably in on year, the suggested retail price will be around 300€ for the pistol and 10-20€ for the magazine.
It is tested with all the 22LR commercial ammunition.
I’m at your disposal for any further information or support you may need.
Best Regards
Giada Chiappa
Dear F
However I’ve already answered to all your question; I’m repeating what I said.
We have decided to made our pistol in plastic, this is it!
As I told you our pistol are in Zamak and not in steel, there are only a barrel liner made of steel.
The pistol will be available probably by the end of the year.
We do not have any German importer yet.
Sorry but I’ve no idea what these sentence means. ( “ 5) ZNAL IS BRITTLE AND VERY WEAK FOR BLOWS!!!!” )
GOOD Politics
Plastic easy damage =Pistol go Service and 3 week and 4 week repair
STILL ANEW
I was at a range near Dayton, Ohio this past week and got to see one of the Chiappa 1911-22’s! At first I thought it was just another conversion, until I saw it shooting every type of ammo available. The factory guy was there and they were doing some tests, they were shooting Standard VelocityTarget Loads, Subsonic loads, and Hi-velocity without any jamming or malfunctions. That’s when I knew it couldn’t be a conversion. It looked and felt just like a 1911.
They were only shooting at 15 yds but you could cover the groups with a quarter.
They said that they have already started shipping, if they shoot anything like the one I saw, I’m getting one this weekend! They said some of the local shops in our area will be the first to get them this week.
Hi
————–>>>>> MAllen49
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2)Wheter materials good strong ???
3)What maximum range ???
Ammo HV compatibile very good
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4) How you are judging it in the scale from 1 to 6 ???
Hi Fenixom1911,
I hope I can answer you?? I bought a Chiappa 1911 yesterday, and I have been up all night with it. I have only shot it in my backyard range and out to 35 yards it does great! I have already shot over 300 rounds, I wanted to break it in rigt. The only malfunction I had was from a handful of old ammo that I had, about a dozen DNF’s, but then that was ammo that had gone through the wash and nothing I had would set them off.
The pistol is almost the same weight as my Springfield 1911 and feels very good. I already filed the front sight to zero at about 15 yards where I do most of my shooting. i heard cold blue would touch up the filing and it did. The metal does not seem like pot metal? More like aluminum but black.
The major difference I see between the Chiappa and my Springfield is when the Chiappa safety is on, it locks the slide. The trigger pull a little long and feels to be about 5-6 pounds, I don’t know if I’m imagining it or getting use to it, but the trigger pull feels better now than it did when i first got it.
I had a Kimber conversion that I could never get to shoot right on my Springfield so I sold it for 250.00, and for 50.00 more the Chiappa worked right out of the box! Accuracy seems good, better than me anyway. But I can make a beer can jump at 15 yards all day long with it!
I hope this answers some of your questions, I’ll let you know more when I get some more ammo!
M Allen
“The pistol is almost the same weight as my Springfield 1911 and feels very good. … The metal does not seem like pot metal? More like aluminum but black.”
DENSITY!!!
Zn-based alloys have cca. the same density as steel. But the Al is much less. Therefore if it is the same weight as a steel M1911…it CAN’t be Aluminium.
Hi
———————->>>>Dear Mrs MAllen49
How much Chiappa and new magazine ???
Where I Can buy Chiappa 1911 22LR ????
Which is better GSG 1911 22LR vs CHIAPPA 1911 22LR ???
Whether you used Ammo 22LR HV Laupa itp HV ????
How he is working on this ammunition ???
Magazine stal/plastic ???
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HOW YOU ARE ASSESSING THE DURABILITY OF MATERIAL Use this Pistol
Strong/No Strong ???
Regards
Artur Poland
Hi Fenixom1911,
I paid 300.00 for the 1911-22, with one magazine. Extra magazines are under 20.00 ea, but I have not found any available yet, the guy at the shop said they will be getting some soon. The magazine is plastic, but seems very durable.
I found some Winchester 333 and a 500 count box of Federal, and some Wolf Match. I have shot all of the Winchester and I’m half way thru the Federal, I have put close to 900 rounds through it and it’s shooting better the more I shoot it. It really shoots the Wolf target well, even makes me look good! I have not seen any of the ammo you are talking about around here.
The magazine slide lock works great, I can’t wait to get a couple more mags for it!
The metal seems really strong, I have had no problem, and it looks like it is blued, not painted. I found this information about Chappalloy:
CHIAPPALLOY
Chiappalloy is a die casting alloy developed by Chiappa Research and Development engineers and has been in continued development and application since 1987. Historically, zinc alloys have been an economic approach utilized in firearm production for over 50 years. However, this application was not without limitations. Typically alloy casted components are limited to the quality of metal finish with high porosity and were usually either plated or painted. Most alloy casted firearm components are limited to low pressure ammunition and are usually best suited for rimfire calibers.
Chiappalloy has been developed to improve the strength, wear resistance and creep properties in the zinc alloy family. The alloys included in our unique blend include aluminum, copper, magnesium, and iron. This allows Chiappalloy to maintain casted components that are easily machined and finished to a bright level of polish with minimal porosity. Due to the high luster polish that can be obtained, Chiappalloy’s plating properties are enhanced, yielding beautiful Nickel & Gold (color) plated components.
Chiappalloy can be black finished that matches well with conventional blued & black anodized aluminum components. This black finish is much more durable and appealing than that of zinc casted components that must be coated or painted. The black finish when applied to Chiappalloy is very durable and can easily be touched up with most commercially available “Cold Blue” gun products.
In addition to the machining & finish attributes of Chiappalloy, this unique alloy has been developed to accurately replicate the weight of the replica firearms produced by Chiappa Firearms. For example, the Model 1911-22 feels very similar in weight and balance to the original 1911 chambered in .45 ACP.
Hi MAllen 49
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It is interesting which will be better GSG 1911 22LR HV vs Chiappa 1911 22LR ???
Thanks
Fenixom1911, posting email in comments is never a good idea – spammers will find it!
MAllen, if you are able to take photos and email them to me, I will publish it on the blog. My email is on the contact page
———->>Steve
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–>>>MAllen 49 send pics Steve and Steve will publish on the blog :]
YOU HAVE information GSG 1911 22LR HV :]????
Fenixom1911, you only need to ask once. Please don’t repeat yourself.
http://www.gunblast.com/Chiappa1911-22.htm
Fenixom1911, read the review I attached, he has the full story.
M Allen
Hi
———>>>MAllen49
Thanks For Info I Hope so this gun very long strong and 3 000 000 shot very easy
Now wait GSG 1911 22LR HV
According to the importer’s site (http://www.1911-22.com/) the frame and slide are “aluminum alloy.” I know what “alloy” means, and isn’t it customary to list the primary metal first, i.e., the metal composing the the largest percent of the alloy? If so, then even though zinc may be a part of the alloy, wouldn’t it be correct to refer to slide as aluminum alloy rather than zinc?
I have two P22s, one with a couple thousand rounds through it, and both have been flawless. My experience has been that using zinc in rimfires is not detrimental if they are properly cared for. I have to wonder if owners complaining about problems with P22s are simply abusing them.
OK, one week later and 4 boxes of 550 rds courtesy of Wally World with a grand total of 3400+ rds through my 1911-22! Out of 3400+ rounds I have had 1 failure to feed maybe 5 stove pipes, and the only fail to fires was the washed up ammo. This thing is eating everything I can throw at it. Accuracy from a bench at 25 yards is great, even I can keep them all in the black! I tried a torture test of over 1000 rounds, only wish I had more magazines! Took a few hours and only stopped when I was feeling guilty from not cleaning it. Good news, 1000+ rounds without cleaning and not a single malfunction.
Bad news, when I decided to give it a good cleaning, I decided to take the grips off….that was a BIG OOOPS! Right grip no problem, left grip and springs flew everywhere! The grip holds the plunger tube (it is not staked like a 1911) and the slide safety in place. Well, after about 2 hours searching with my flashlight I found the little booger (little spring on the slide safety) and got it back together. Was really easy once I figured it out, just wasn’t prepared for the “Jack in a Box” effect when I took the grip off.
Then it was back to the range on Sunday to chew up more ammo and wipe out a batallion of tin cans! My local Walmart got another shipment of .22 Federal (which it really likes) so my 6 box limit of 550 round boxes should get me through the weekend.
That’s my update…
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——–>>>MAllen49 PLZ
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Thanks
Arti Poland
my gunshop ordered me a chiappa 1911 22LR 5 inch bbl, but on my receipt is does not say chiappa, it says LSI 1911 22LR 5 inch bbl do you know if this is the chiappa indeed, they are closed today & tommorow so I cant ask them. thanks for any help you can offer.
bob, I am not sure …. LSI could be the distributor.
I just found this thread, check out the pics! Now I want to do that to mine!!!
http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=248002
I guess I should add the link
I am waiting GSG 1911 22 LR I hope so this better Chiapaa :]
I hope so GSG 1911 22LR BETTER OR CHIAPPA
I purcahsed one of the first recieved 1911-.22 from Taylor Ffirearms in Winchester Virginia. At first I was very satisfied – BUT after about 500 rounds the gun essentially stopped fireing. Thinking it a cleaning issue – did a full GI cleaning. Still, it would only fire one round – and only that if I manually cocked the hammer, (the extraction mechanisms worked fine – and not jams). After examining a round that did not fire (I used expensive CCI stinger rounds) I noticed that the shell had an indentation in the proper place- but it was not sufficient to fire the round. I am left with the conclusion that the hammer is not striking the firing pin with enough force to discharge the round. Hence the dent – but no bang. I am now looking at the hammer safety seeing that it may be self rotating into a partially blocking position.
Has anyone else had similar problems – does anyone have any advice.
I would love to get this great big/little gun back into dependable firing condition.
Dave
Hi
Good Idea Create Move 15 min and test 1000 shot fast
And test ammo :]
http://www.chiappafirearms.com/sites/default/files/manuals/1911-22.pdf
Try page 19 of the Manual for DNF, mine did the same thing, I found a combination of dirty chamber not allowing the slide to move forward and I was using American Eagle amo that had a lot of DNF’s. I switched to regular federal bulk box ammo and had no problem at all.
I also found the people at Chiappa were very informitive, I have called on a couple of occasions and they took care of me right away!
Their website is chiappafirearms.com
M Allen