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@Guest Thanks for the kind words. Your choice of the .30-06 is a wise move. The .300 WM is a great long range elk rifle. The trade-off is it really kicks. I would not use a .223 for elk. Check with the state laws, it may not be legal for big game. Your '06 will do the job quite well. Except for varmints the '06 will take any north American game. I no longer hunt due to injuries. But I used a 7.65x53mm on elk with good results. It's just a smidge less gun than the '06.

Elk meat is great. It isn't as "gamey" as deer.

@Kivaari What region did you do most of your hunting in Kivaari?

@Guest I now live in North Idaho. But most of my hunting was in Western Washington. From my house I have seen herds of elk and deer (eating our plants), bear, coyote, cougar, and moose. Last year a car hit a moose about 3 houses east of mine. The game warden had to shoot it. The home owner was given the meat. A good deal for him. In WA we had plenty of deer and elk. It is heavily forested in Grays Harbor, Pacific and Jefferson counties.

@Kivaari 7.65x53mm, sounds like you preferred a Mauser from what I could read about that caliber online. If so, did you also use iron sights? Have jostled with with a decline in vision too, but would prefer to iron to glass optical technology. Seems to me a demonstration of a man with higher functioning skills. I may not claim that - with my nose rubbed in it - if I never connect with my prey, but having some conviction stands on its own two feet.

@Guest Yes, I really liked all of the Mausers from 1891 to today's, if it's built on a '98-type. I did use iron sights much of the time. Now it is scopes. In the last few years I've scaled way back and don't have any real hunting rifles. My last bolt actions are both Rugers. I have an American in 5.56mm (not .223) so I can use GI ammo, and a .22LR. Having broken my neck twice and having 5 surgeries made shooting even an '06 too much for the metal parts in my neck. I love AR15s and Glock pistols.

@Kivaari Both locals, excellent geography. I was recently given orders to support some activities in Portland. A few years before I began a farming operation along the coast, just South of Astoria - on the Lewis and Clark River - a couple clicks from the ocean. Have a undeveloped sought after large tract of land outside Olympia, south of the airport. But from my time in Portland, was told Seattle is now on par with the once beautiful San Francisco armpit and traffic is equally horrendous.

Grew up in high highfaluting La Canada California with everything you mentioned in the Angeles Crest national park, absent the moose. Alternating in between coastal Dana Point, surfing and spearfishing was the norm - I spent the better part of 3-4 decades in and on the ocean. I used spend much time on the old gated Richard Nixon estate on the palisade cliffs, surveying the A-framed massive Aleutian swells marching in across the horizon before paddling out for a surf.

Now, I spend a good deal of time at another vacation residence along the Colorado River, just outside the Grand Canyon or working for the high command in La Jolla and Coronado. Having five rounds of graduate studies, I am looking at joint law degree and doctoral/PhD options now - its time to write and deliver superior policy for the better management of what I can only term wicked or complex systems for US national security.

Somewhere in there, is the bright idea is to migrate in your Northern direction. I liked Montana, Colorado, and Utah - Utah has the benefit of a lot of hot chicks to distract from the goofy Mormon culture. Tired of being reminded how piss poor our Federal and State immigration systems are governed. Even more tired of paying for the same. The masses along the coast make for unhealthy living. With water scarcity real, and warming continuing this gringo is heading into higher latitudes - above the western water reserves - Lake Havasu, Lake Mojave, Lake Mead, and Lake Powell.

The Mojave desert is fine, as are the people but there is something about 126 degree summer weather that has grown old. Even the the leather seats in my premium sedan, have already deteriorated and gone as the Russian say, kaput - from the extreme heat.

@Guest Idaho and Utah are great places. If you don't like 5 month winters, southern Idaho is the banana belt. We are in North Idaho for the kids. I would not recommend Washington, Oregon or California. Those states don't like gun owners. Idaho is a 2A sanctuary state. There are around 60+ gun oriented manufacturers here. Grey Ghost seems ready to finish a new plant in Wallace. At least the building looks good.
Seattle traffic is worse than LA. Seattle hates gun owners and loves Antifa. The smartest chief of police Seattle had quit after they defunded operations and even cut her salary.

@Kivaari Have bought semi-trucks loads of root crop seed from Idaho. Even they we are wise to the tissue culture lab for disease prevention, Idaho supplies some of the few low disease seeds for agriculture. That says something about the health of the soil and the people in one fell swoop.

@Kivaari Where are the employment opportunities in Idaho located, looks like work is scarce?

@Kivaari Moving forward scopes will be required, as there is no use spending days in the ruff only only to miss my target. If on the other hand, I strike out there is always some long distant practice for fun.

I agree, using military grade ammunition is wise. Think that is the .223 Wylde isn't it. Civilians like to use the term .223, its distinctively discernible in their vocabulary. Still, I prefer to use the 556 nomenclature.

How the heck did you break your neck twice?

@Guest I have an area where I have stood within 10 feet of elk. Crazy thing is they just didn't care. I've been that close to deer, but they were always just out of sight and when they jumped, I have to admit, so did I.
The .223 Wylde is a hybrid chamber that allows both rounds to be used. It is said to be a little more accurate than a 5.56mm chamber. I could never see a difference. I like that Ruger did the rifle in 5.56mm so I can use both. About 40 years ago I had .223 rifles, but all the ammo I had was GI M193. So things just did not shoot well. Instead of researching the problem, I sold the guns. Now decades later, I know what was going on. Later on I found some Herter's ammo, made by Norma. In my AR180, I was getting 1" groups at 100 yards. If I had that ammo in the Remington rifles, it would probably do .5 MOA. That ammo was excellent.
The first time my neck was broken, I stuck it into a riot and two guys I was trying to arrest kicked my ass. The second time I fell on my ice covered steps. They took 5 surgeries to fix. My advice extends to don't lose to suspects and don't get hit by cars.

Getting thumped by bad guys was really uncommon. When I was young the suspects always wanted to fight, since I looked like I was 17 into my mid-20s. I simply was able to control most of the violence. Then in my late 40s and early 50s, I think I treated everyone with respect and didn't get hurt in 10 years. It was more fun.

@Guest Two major areas. The greater Boise area has just about any type of job you would want. It is in Southern Idaho. In North Idaho is Coeur d' Alene. It pretty much has every thing as well. It is on the I90 corridor. It is about 20 miles East of Spokane. Lots of jobs to be had. Housing is up like the rest of the nation, but reasonable prices. Good shooting, hunting and fishing.

@Guest Seeds and potatoes from Southern Idaho.

@Kivaari Yep, thats right. I forget the name of the valley. But that valley has the healthiest seed in the nation. That is a problem of significant consequence for another discussion Kivaari.

@Kivaari Peoples handles are something of interest, it somethings shares something about their personality. KIVAARI, that is a the name of a rifle of a large caliber isn't it?

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@Guest Kivaari is Finn for rifle. Mom was 100% Finn.

@Guest The Treasure Valley.

@Kivaari If its near Nampa, that's likely it.

@Kivaari I read often that Scandinavia rivals many other states. I am partially from there, and the surrounding region. Would rather tour there than some of the other main destinations in the EU. Problem was every time I was traveling for my own leisure, the Euro exchange rate sucked and it made zero sense. 100% Finn, is a respectable bit of DNA from one parent.

@Guest It was smart to pass on the AR in 5.7mm.
I personally would pass on the 10mm for a carry piece. Full power 10mm does perform very well. If you look at the ballistics for most loads, they are delivering the same as a .40 S&W. 10s require a .45 frame, so the guns tend to be big and heavy. For EDC I would use a 9mm. I have packed .40 S&W and like the cartridge. The recoil on a .40 is a bit more than +P 9mm. I was used to using +P+ 9mm (Federal 9BPLE 115 gr.) so the recoil is about the same. I still use a G17 as I would a duty gun. But for EDC I pack a G43 and sometimes a G48. The G48 has really shown itself to be a great gun. It is about 7/8th the size of a G17, so it carries well. If Glock made a 9-shot G48+ in .40 it would be a great defense gun.

@Guest My grand father served in the Imperial Russian Army from 1898 to 1900. It was the Grand Duchy of Finland. In the 50s, he would march around with a huge rifle yelling commands in Russian to show off to us kids. I never knew where the rifle went or what it was.

@Kivaari Don't know much about that period, or the history. I did read this. The Grand Duchy of Finland, was the predecessor state of modern
Finland. It existed between 1809 and 1917 as an autonomous part of the
Russian Empire. Sounds like from what read this was a break away section of Sweden, who then ensured their autonomy through Russian loyalties for a time?

@Kivaari The 9mm seems to me to be a bit of pud round. It just doesn't have enough to get the job done. Not what I am used to, coming from significant time with a full frame 45. The timing and recoil for me is just weak sauce with all the 9mm's that I purchased. The one exception is the SIG MK25 or a Glock17 with factory threaded barrel and suppressor sights. Both, supply perfect placement. Clearly not all machines are equal.

I prefer off the self - or run of the mill ammunition as its cheap and when using anything else its an incremental improvement in my shot placement. After reading your comments and those from others over the past months, I may try some +P+9mm and see if that is a solution to my dilemma. If not the 9mm's will get thrown into the back of the safe, and will move onto 10mm, or return to the 45, and call it a day.