POTD: Live-Fire with the 84mm M2 Carl Gustaf

Eric B
by Eric B
Photo: Kristian Kapelrud / Forsvaret

Photo Of The Day and we’re in for a blast. The firepower of the 84 mm M2 Carl Gustaf anti-tank recoilless rifle is huge, but so is the blast. All that energy needs to go somewhere and in these pictures it’s clear. Above we have soldiers from The Norwegian Home Guard in Trøndelag practicing shooting with the 84mm recoilless rifle during the exercise Trøndelag 2017.

Below we have soldiers from the Telemark battalion on a live-fire exercise in Latvia, firing an 84 mm M2 Carl Gustaf, anti-tank, recoilless rifle. Anywhere on the side is good, but you don’t want to be standing behind it, and you don’t want to be the target.

Photo: Ole-Sverre Haugli / Forsvaret

Below: Soldiers from The Norwegian Home Guard in Trøndelag practicing shooting with the 84mm recoilless rifle during exercise Trøndelag 2017.

Below: Non-commissioned cadets from the Homeguards training school on their final exercise in northern Norway. The cadets got a chance to shoot with a 40mm grenade launcher and the Carl Gustaf.

Photo: Jostein Hestdal

Did you ever shoot the 84 mm Carl Gustaf? Do you still remember?

Eric B
Eric B

Ex-Arctic Ranger. Competitive practical shooter and hunter with a European focus. Always ready to increase my collection of modern semi-automatics, optics, thermals and suppressors. TCCC Certified. Occasionaly seen in a 6x6 Bug Out Vehicle, always with a big smile.

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  • Uri Predrag Uri Predrag on Apr 01, 2021

    How come that there is smokeless gunpowder, but they still do not have ,or use flameless propulsion for these cartridges/rounds? It is quite a flame-boyant way of saying ''hello boys and gentlemen''. Maybe it is irrelevant with counter artillery radars nowdays.

    • Uncle Yar Uncle Yar on Apr 01, 2021

      @Đurić Predrag Well, you're ejecting propellant as a counter recoil mass to make it shoulder fireable. We've still have to find a way to completely reduce flash in such propellant; we have the tech for infantry rifle ammo, but at the scale of the powder being ejected for an 84mm RCL, it's moot point. Doesn't reduce the flash enough to be worth the cost.

      That's why AT4 come with CS variants. Instead of ejecting the propellant, it ejects a countermass made of saline in a frangible container. However this means less propellant, and hence lower muzzle velocity on a system with already low MV, given that it's RCL

      Edit: I just recently looked at Saab website and found the crafty bhenchods managed to make a CS round for their non-tandem HEAT ammo. However, the range is only 300 meters compared to 500 meters for their regular non-tandem HEAT or 700 meters for their tandem HEAT ammo. Their airburst (time set) HE Frag can go out to 1.3 km, for comparison.

  • PeteEllis PeteEllis on Apr 03, 2021

    Just firing Big Carl during a fire fight can end it, it is an amazing engine of destruction!

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