POTD: Be Careful What You Wish For – M&P45

Nicholas C
by Nicholas C

Found this reposted in a gun group. Often some people get frustrated at their guns and gear. However rather than isolating and addressing the issue they like to lash out and blame the gun or gear. Here is a great example of someone eating humble pie over an M&P45.

A disgruntled person attended a S&W armorer’s course. He complained about how an officer’s M&P45 is terrible and how he and the officer could not get the gun to group with self defense rounds nor target ammo.

Gregory Grutter, Chief Firearms Instructor for S&W, happened to be at the course and asked if he could try shooting the M&P45. He used his business cards as targets, set them at 15 yards and shot one with Winchester Ranger SXT and the other Winchester White Box.

Here is what he posted:

Guy comes to an armorers course.

Very loudly tells the instructor, the M&P 45 one of this officers is carrying is sh*t.

The officer and this long time guru of all thing shooting said that they both couldn’t get the gun to shoot/group at all. Not with FMJ or duty ammo. He then just goes on to trash talk the gun, the brand and now he has the attention of the class.

Boss gives me the eye…

“Hey Sir, can I shoot it?”

“Have at it, I don’t want that POS back! “

Shot two groups at 15 yards Winchester Ranger SXT and white box FMJ


“Why did you shoot your cards? Ain’t got no targets?”

*Big smile*

“Na, in case you or your officer want to learn how to shoot you will have the numbers to call.

An important reminder: before blaming objects make sure you know what you are talking about and who you are complaining to. Of course man made objects can fail. Even if the gun had been defective, a sample size of one is not a good litmus test. You can’t say all models are bad if you have only shot one and had a negative experience.

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  • Bob Stuart Bob Stuart on May 24, 2018

    My former b-i-l is retired leo. I could easily outshoot him using a 100 year old Army Colt 45 while he was using his service weapon.

  • Broz Broz on May 25, 2018

    Most cops can't shoot for sh*t...and know very little about firearms...that's because their gun is only a 'tool' to them - most aren't 'gun guys' or shooters (as I am) and they're the LAST person I'd ask for advice on a firearm if I was a noob...I've been around guns practically my entire life - I grew up in the 50s & 60s and had the very best toy guns, then transitioned to the real thing as I got older - when I graduated grammar school in June of '63 my dad surprised me with a bolt action Marlin (wish I hadn'r 'lost' it - can't even remember the model), when I got to Germany in '71 one of my first acts (that I felt 'made me an adult - I was 22 in '72) was buying a rifle - Winchester '94 in 44 Mag...I returned home is 1974 with five firearms and a comp-lete RCBS reloading system/kit...after moving from the PDRNJ in '79 to the Free State of FL I began buying and collecting (mostly C&R with my 03 license) firearms. I've lived, shot & studied firearms for the better part of 50 years...most (note I didn't say 'ALL') cops can't say this...a minority of cops are shooters and/or collectors - and great folks with a RAFT of knowledge...