ATEI & Cole Partnerships Releases "Hybrid" Kit for M&P Handguns

@jay The grip is the part that sticks out, the slide size barely makes a difference when concealing for most people. Try putting two seconds of thought into something and using imagination before immediately ruling from on high that is has absolutely no use to anyone ever.

@DonDrapersAcidTrip First off, I have plenty of imagination. I didn't say "it has no use to anyone ever". I just stated the standard trope of, concealed firearms must be necessarily small and compact. Because you want to conceal the firearm! Carrying a full size firearm is hard to conceal.
Unless you have the figure to hide it. They currently report 1/3 percent of US adults are considered obese. Most of us don't have the cover, so to speak. So, a shoulder holster is really it for a full size fire arm. Also, I've never ever just had to deal with the grip. The slide is a big bulky object and has most of the firearms weight. So if you believe the slide barely makes a difference when concealing for most people, I disagree. It's the biggest chunk of steel, and weight on the entire pistol. So, here's was your 2 seconds (actually 6 minutes) of thought... Didn't change my mind, don't expect to change yours (and really don't care). So does your avatar anme have anything to do with your opinions? Just asking...

@jay I have been conceal carrying a full size pistol for a few years now and i can tell you that the part that tries pokes out is always... the grip. I wouldn't mind losing an inch or two off of it.

Never once has the slide size or length been an issue and I only carry under a T-shirt. A couple more inches on the slide would not compromise conceal-ability at all, but would provide some advantages.

@Machinegunnertim You are welcome to have, and conceal carry anything you want (if your state says it's ok, that is)! Full size, compact, sub-compact. I personally would not carry a sub-compact, unless I had too. Too few rounds. Compact definitely. Pistol is still concealable, with a moderate amount of ammunition. Full size firearm (any full size slide, and any size frame), do not seem concealable to me. Would be too hard to fully conceal. Unless my carry were a shoulder holster, deep belly, or some other carry method, that would not only be harder to conceal, but also much harder to draw the firearm, and much more easily detected. Guess I don't have your hips or padding? Again, this is a completely personal choice, or taste. I'll use what I believe to be the best compromise, and you and everyone else are free to choose and use their preferences. Just be aware in some states, printing or exposing your firearm (in some states it's called brandishing, even if you don't pull it out of your holster) is not only a Fine able offense, you can have your firearm confiscated, or lose your Concealed Carry License. It really depends on which state you live in, and how big of a d*ck the licensing agency is, and whether you live in a "freer" state or not. So, you have and use what you want, I'll use what my common sense and preferences (and needs) dictate for me. Isn't Freedom Wonderful?

@jay Thank you for telling me your life story when the entire point is your preferences don't apply to every other person

"So does your avatar anme have anything to do with your opinions? Just asking..."

LMAO Another tired old man brings up my username for literally no reason but ramble on about "them drugs them kids do nowadays." You all have literally the exact same personality.