Rebuttal for TFB's Sturmgewehr Article

Nathan S
by Nathan S

There are a myriad of opinions within the industry on an even larger selection of topics. Too that point, often TFB writers disagree on topics. Ian from Forgotten Weapons (one of our contributors) has taken to disagree with Nathaniel F. on his post “7 Reasons I Don’t Like the MP-44 Sturmgewehr”.

It is worth pointing out that Nathaniel was in fact planning on writing an article on the positive points of the MP-44 when Ian emailed us saying he was interested in doing the same. Nathaniel told Ian to go ahead with his video.

Ian and his friend go through Nathaniel’s 7 points in detail, Armed with their knowledge of historical firearms across various countries. If anything, the lively debate ensures the Sturmgewehr will never be a Forgotten Weapon.

Myself? I know that this may seem like a “cop-out” I think both are right across various points. I personally took issue with Nathaniel’s point on ammunition weight which while factually true, failed to take into account the ability to put fire downrange in larger quantities without reloading (which Ian discusses)

On the other hand, Nathaniel was quite right on the technical side in that there certainly were firearms that previously existed that met many of the requirements. In this regard, the MP-44 was nothing special.

What do you think? Are either completely off-base or do both make good points?

Nathan S
Nathan S

One of TFB's resident Jarheads, Nathan now works within the firearms industry. A consecutive Marine rifle and pistol expert, he enjoys local 3-gun, NFA, gunsmithing, MSR's, & high-speed gear. Nathan has traveled to over 30 countries working with US DoD & foreign MoDs.The above post is my opinion and does not reflect the views of any company or organization.

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  • Trey Trey on Nov 18, 2015

    The Winchester 1907/17 gets my vote for first "assault rifle"

    Select Fire.
    Intermediate cartridge (180gr at 1600fps)
    http://www.loaddata.com/mem...

    Over 2000 produced for military contract

    As for doctrine, the StG44 did not as far I know change base tactics of the German army as MG-34/42 base of fire with squad support was still used.

    The production eStG44 is of course more a matter of general improvement of manufacturing technology and need. The massive amounts of all war material during WW2 dwarf most other events in history.

    4 Million M1 Garand and 6 million M! carbines for instance.
    13.5 Million Mosin 91/30 and nearly 8 million M44 Carbines!
    1.6 Million SVT-40

    3 Million or so Enfields and No1's

    So that a good number of StG's were made is not at all unexpected.

    As to the scatter shot method of procurement of the 3rd Reich.. well lets all be glad that so much effort was wasted on so many things by them.

  • Dolphy Dolphy on Nov 23, 2015

    What can I say? Nat has enough brains to realize he's clever, but not enough to realize he can be wrong.

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