H&K417 (HK762A1) Impressions

@mike knox Drop off the table? Does it matter? It's not going to hurt anyone.

It typical to see live rounds on the ground in outdoor range. At my outdoor range we just pick it up when we see them and throw them into the open fire.

As a rule of thumb there are always live rounds on the ground in any range. It not something to get overly excited about.

@jdun1911 An open fire? You're joking right? That's the last place to dispose loose rounds, unless you're retarded.

Loose rounds are often a hazard, especially if they're hangfires and they can hurt you. It's just range discipline. Loose rounds always have to be accounted for and put away.

If it's a rule of thumb for you, then you're better off not having a range of your own. It's that sort of carelessness and negligence that get people harmed. And in your case, tells everyone you're stupid.

I was just pointing out a lack of range discipline in a big event for firearms where safety's supposed to be a prime concern..

@jdun1911 I assume you have very little experience in firearms and shooting firearms to make that kind of statement. Don't post what you don't understand.

It is common to see loose rounds in range. They are harmless. I have never seen one go off when it is out of the gun. Even if it does it will not harm you. Unlike the movies and TV, real life have to follow the law of physics.

In our area it is standard procedure to dump bad live rounds into open fire (oil can) for disposal. Or put it on the bad round bin. The range master sooner or later will start a fire and throw all those rounds into it.

With that said it is a very very bad idea to pick up a live round on the ground that doesn't belong to you or have no knowledge of in your gun.

@jdun1911 Really? Still insisting with an open fire? Especially when it's labelled in the packaging to keep away from an open fire. How much more for disposing in an open fire.

With that sort of lackhanded knowledge, that pretty much puts you down with your assumption. Hangfires do inflict injury when neglected, that's why they're noted in firearms manuals and ammo packages. It's a simple fact.

You really get me laughing with your "range master sooner or later will start a fire and throw all those rounds into it" bit. Unless that idiot "range master" is you. It pretty much makes sense.

Bad rounds are second struck, taken apart, punctured or disposed by damp pits or soaked, but never burned. Even if they're disposed in a burn pit, it's done in a dirt well with embers or hot ash and covered.

But if you insist with an opern fire or just leave them around on the floor, have fun picking brass and copper off your legs and feet along with everyone else's and have your range permit revoked. Good luck gummo..

@jdun1911 This is what happen modern society cannot tell between reality and fantasy. This is what happen when our public school system fail our children.

Fantasy do not follow the laws of physics. Reality do.

Disposing ammo in open fire has been done long before our great grandfather was alive. It's normal.

In order to understand why it perfectly safe to throw live ammo in open fire you need to know basic physics that is taught in Jr. High School. You also need to know how gas react to the environment.

Gases fill space in every direction. What happen when gases is release in open space? It dissipated. What happen when gases is release in an enclosed environment. It built pressure and wants to escape. I don't think I need to explain it anymore. I think you get the idea.

I remember a long time ago, I asked the range master to lit a fire on the oil trash can to get my hands warm up. One of the shooters told the range master that he dump some live rounds into the trash can. The range master started the fire and the guy went into total shock.

You know what's the common cause of injuries at the range? HOT BRASS. I have my share of getting hit by hot brass. Smelling my own flesh burn is NOT FUN. Talking about it cause phantom pains right now.

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