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		<title>Handloading subsonic .223</title>
		<link>http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/30/handloading-subsonic-223/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Blackfork is trying to develop subsonic loads for his .223:
I looked on the Hogden site and found a subsonic load: 3.1 grains of Titegroup and a 55 grain bullet.  I tried 3.1 grains of Titegroup under a Nosler 69.  It works, doesn&#8217;t cycle the rifle but it&#8217;s quiet.  The gun kind of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blackforkblog.blogspot.com/2008/12/slowing-things-down.html">Blackfork</a> is trying to develop subsonic loads for his .223:</p>
<blockquote><p>I looked on the Hogden site and found a subsonic load: 3.1 grains of Titegroup and a 55 grain bullet.  I tried 3.1 grains of Titegroup under a Nosler 69.  It works, doesn&#8217;t cycle the rifle but it&#8217;s quiet.  The gun kind of rattles a bit when it goes off.  Kind of a beefed up .22lr.  About six inches under the zero for my normal ammo.</p></blockquote>
<p>As he said, a problem is that a subsonic 55 grain has about the same muzzle energy as a High velocity .22 Long Rifle. On the other hand a heavy 77 grain bullet will not give great accuracy unless the correct barrel twist is used. The Shooting Times <a href="http://www.shootingtimes.com/ammunition/st223_120606/index1.html">says</a> a 1:8 twist rate is the minimum need to stabilize a 77 grain Sierra MatchKing.</p>
<p>I look forward to following BlackFork&#8217;s progress.</p>
<p>More at <a href="http://blackforkblog.blogspot.com/2008/12/slowing-things-down.html">BlackFork</a></p>
<p>Hat Tip: <a href="http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/12/29/subsonic-223-loads/">Snowflakes in Hell</a></p>
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		<title>Hunting geese with a 30-06 !!!</title>
		<link>http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/02/hunting-geese-with-a-3006/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 04:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A South African on rec.guns asked about hunting geese with his 30-06!

Hi guys. Jacques here from South Africa. I use my 30-06 to hunt wild
birds especially Egyptian geese for research purposes.My problem is
that this is my only rifle and I need a load to minimize meat damage
seeing that I need to take samples of the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A South African on <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/rec.guns/browse_thread/thread/3aaeee01576117bd?hl=en">rec.guns</a> <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/rec.guns/browse_thread/thread/3aaeee01576117bd?hl=en">asked</a> about hunting geese with his 30-06!<br />
<img src="http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/class-tests-images-bt-bt18.jpg" alt=" Class Tests Images Bt Bt18" align="right" border="1" height="124" hspace="4" vspace="4" width="157" title="class tests images bt bt18 Hunting geese with a 30 06 !!! photo" /></p>
<blockquote><p>Hi guys. Jacques here from South Africa. I use my 30-06 to hunt wild<br />
birds especially Egyptian geese for research purposes.My problem is<br />
that this is my only rifle and I need a load to minimize meat damage<br />
seeing that I need to take samples of the organs of the birds</p></blockquote>
<p>Suggestions included:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mcace.com/adapters.htm">Chamber adapters</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.woodsdrummer.com/ml07.html">Light Loads</a></p>
<p>Sabots (see picture)</p>
<p><strong> UPDATE</strong>: A continuation of the discussion is <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/rec.guns/browse_thread/thread/6dc173b6d5589729?hl=en">here</a>.</p>
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