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		<title>An upside down Enfield</title>
		<link>http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2010/03/02/an-upside-down-enfield/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The action in this rifle is an inverted Enfield M1917 (or maybe Enfield P14). It was done so that a lefty could use it!

[ Hat Tip goes to Max Popenker for finding this bizarre creation. ]
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<p>The action in this rifle is an inverted Enfield M1917 (or maybe Enfield P14). It was done so that a lefty could use it!</p>

<p><em>[ Hat Tip goes to Max Popenker for <a href="http://mpopenker.livejournal.com/1109816.html">finding this bizarre creation</a>. ]</em></p>
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		<title>Build your own Enfield SA80 (soon)</title>
		<link>http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2010/02/08/build-your-own-enfield-sa80-soon/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Prexis plans on selling a US made kit version of the Enfield L85 / SA80. The PL85 kit contains all the parts needed to build the rifle. The catch? The lower receiver which will require bending into shape.

I have no word on pricing or when this kit will be on sale.

Refer to state law before [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prexis plans on <a href="http://www.prexis.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&#038;Store_Code=P&#038;Category_Code=NEW">selling a US made kit version</a> of the Enfield L85 / SA80. The PL85 kit contains all the parts needed to build the rifle. The catch? The lower receiver which will require bending into shape.</p>

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<p>I have no word on pricing or when this kit will be on sale.</p>

<p>Refer to state law before building your own rifle and don't even think about building with the intention of selling unless you want the BATFE knocking down your door!</p>

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<p><em>[ Many thanks to Kenneth for emailing me the info. ]</em></p>

<p>UPDATE: Preorder price is $1800. Final list price will be $2400.</p>
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		<title>AIA M-10 Coming to EU and US</title>
		<link>http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/25/aia-m-10-coming-to-eu-and-us/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 12:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since the last time I wrote about the Australian International Arms M-10 Lee Enfield clone the company has expanded their product line, secured a EU importer (Polish firm LD Diana) and may be exporting to the US in the near future.

I was very surprised to learn that they had listed a US export model on [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the last time I wrote about the <a href="http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/03/aia-m-10-infomation/">Australian International Arms M-10</a> Lee Enfield clone the company has expanded their product line, secured a EU importer (Polish firm <a href="http://www.traper.tarnow.pl/">LD Diana</a>) and may be exporting to the US in the near future.</p>

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<p>I was very surprised to learn that they <a href="http://www.australianinternationalarms.com.au/product.htm">had listed</a> a US export model on their website. American Enfield fans have long been waiting to get their hands on the rifle. Because parts of the rifle were made in Vietnam importing it stateside would be illegal. If AIA are truly gearing up to export to the United States they must be manufacturing at least the export model elsewhere.</p>

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<blockquote>
  <p><strong>7.62x51mm No.4 Mk 4 - Blued US export model</strong><br />
  No.4 Mk 4 (7.62mm NATO)<br />
  No.4 &#038; No.4(T) rifle configuration, 10-rd.<br />
  Parkerized finish on standard model.<br />
  Adjustable frontsight, elevation &#038; windage, dual rear aperture at 200, 400m.<br />
  Provision for steel Picatinny rail to fit telescopic sight.</p>
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<p><em>[ Many thanks to Root for emailing me the info. ]</em></p>
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		<title>.416 Strauss : a .303 wildcat</title>
		<link>http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/30/416-strauss-a-303-wildcat/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 07:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Piet, a South African, emailed me information about a wildcat he shoots. The .416 Strauss aka. the 416-03 Strauss in named after the inventor, a friend of Piet.

.303 British (left), .416 Strauss (middle, loaded with a  350 gr Speer bullet in a Norma case)

The parent cartridge is the .303 British. It is blown out [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Piet, a South African, emailed me information about a wildcat he shoots. The .416 Strauss aka. the 416-03 Strauss in named after the inventor, a friend of Piet.</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/s6300569.png" onclick="window.open('http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/s6300569.png','popup','width=541+20,height=895+20,scrollbars=no,resizable=yes,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=yes,left=0,top=0');return false" class="tfb_thumbnail"><img rel="thumbnail" src="http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/s6300569-tm.jpg" height="579" width="350" align="" border="1" hspace="4" vspace="4" alt="S6300569" title="" longdesc="" /></a><br />
<em>.303 British (left), .416 Strauss (middle, loaded with a  350 gr Speer bullet in a Norma case)<br />
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<p>The parent cartridge is the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.303_British">.303 British</a>. It is blown out to .416 caliber and loaded with a 300 grain Barns-X or 350 grain Speer bullet and S265 Pistol powder (a local South African powder). The 350 grain bullet is propelled at 2300 fps and generates 4112 ft/lbs of muzzle energy. The lighter bullet is pushed out at 2500 fps and generates 4164 ft/lbs of muzzle energy.</p>
<p>The performance seems similar to the .375 H&#38;H Magnum. According to Cartridges of the World (11th Edition), the .375 H&#38;H can push a 300 grain bullet at 2530 fps, generating 4265 ft/lbs. The small caliber .375 bullet would have greater penetration than a .416 bullet. The cartridge works about to be about 20% less powerful than a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.416_Rigby">.416 Rigby<br />
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Piet uses the cartridge in a with with a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pattern_14_Rifle">P14</a> (Pattern 1914 Enfield) action. The groups are not all that great as he does not have a custom die set and has to use a .405 Winchester die for seating the bullet.</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/s6300565.png" onclick="window.open('http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/s6300565.png','popup','width=1267+20,height=542+20,scrollbars=no,resizable=yes,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=yes,left=0,top=0');return false" class="tfb_thumbnail"><img rel="thumbnail" src="http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/s6300565-tm.jpg" height="171" width="400" align="" border="1" hspace="4" vspace="4" alt="S6300565" title="" longdesc="" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/s6300566.png" onclick="window.open('http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/s6300566.png','popup','width=914+20,height=431+20,scrollbars=no,resizable=yes,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=yes,left=0,top=0');return false" class="tfb_thumbnail"><img rel="thumbnail" src="http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/s6300566-tm.jpg" height="188" width="400" align="" border="1" hspace="4" vspace="4" alt="S6300566" title="" longdesc="" /></a><br />
<em>The .416 Strauss P14 (click to expand)<br />
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<p>I think this is a very compelling cartridge. I am surprised I had not heard of .303&#8217;s necked up and turned into big game cartridges before. It seems like a good idea as I am sure Africa is has more than its share of .303 surplus rifles.</p>
<p>A big thank you to Piet for emailing me the photos and information.</p>
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		<title>Enfield rifles again finding favor in Afghanistan</title>
		<link>http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/26/enfield-rifles-again-finding-favor-in-afghanistan/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[StrategyPage has a article about the resurgence of Lee-Enfield rifles in Afghanistan and use against NATO troops:
Afghan traditionalists are changing the way the Taliban fight. This can be seen by the increase in the use of sniping by the Taliban. In the last year, NATO units in southern Afghanistan estimate there has been a 25 [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>StrategyPage has a article about the <a href="http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/Afghans-Rediscover-The-Lee-Enfield-1-22-2009.asp">resurgence of Lee-Enfield rifles</a> in Afghanistan and use against NATO troops:</p>
<blockquote><p>Afghan traditionalists are changing the way the Taliban fight. This can be seen by the increase in the use of sniping by the Taliban. In the last year, NATO units in southern Afghanistan estimate there has been a 25 percent increase in sniping incidents.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>Then some of the young guys remembered grandpa decrying the decline in marksmanship years ago. Back before the Russians showed up, in the 1980s, the best an Afghan could hope to have was a World War II, or World War I, era bolt action rifle. These weapons were eclipsed in the 1980s by full automatic AK-47s and the RPG rocket launcher. The young guys took to the AK, and the thrill of emptying a 30 round magazine on full automatic. Not bad for a brief firefight, and suddenly hardly anyone, except a few old timers, wanted to use the old bolt action rifle.</p></blockquote>
<p>Read the entire article <a href="http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/Afghans-Rediscover-The-Lee-Enfield-1-22-2009.asp">here</a>.</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/800px-lee-enfield-rifle-1.jpg" onclick="window.open('http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/800px-lee-enfield-rifle-1.jpg','popup','width=800+20,height=187+20,scrollbars=no,resizable=yes,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=yes,left=0,top=0');return false" class="tfb_thumbnail"><img rel="thumbnail" src="http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/800px-lee-enfield-rifle-1-tm.jpg" height="93" width="400" align="" border="1" hspace="4" vspace="4" alt="800Px-Lee-Enfield Rifle-1" title="" longdesc="" /></a><br />
<em>Lee-Enfield rifle No. 4 Mk I (From </em><em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee-Enfield">Wikipedia</a></em><em>)</em></p>
<p>According to the book <em>Charlie Wilson&#8217;s War,</em> supplying .303 ammunition was initially a priority of the CIA during the 1980s. The Afghans were already armed with Lee-Enfield rifles of WWI and WWI vintage and there was greater deniability supplying then obsolete ammunition. Once the CIA gained more funding and political support they shifted thier startergy to supplying AK-47, heavy weapons and ultimately the Singer surface-to-air missile system.</p>
<p>This war is often incorrectly compared to the Soviet invasion. The Taliban do not represent the Afghan people nor are they as well supplied as the Afghan freedom fighter were by the US, Pakistan and Arab countries. The Taliban, while presumably well supplied, are fighting with less advanced weapons than they did back in the 1980&#8217;s. NATO forces on the other hand have come a long way.  It is not surprise that sniping is on the increase. Force on force confrontations with NATO troops almost always end with high Taliban casualties.</p>
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		<title>Greeks selling off Stens, Brens and Enfields</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[StrategyPage reports thats the Greeks are selling off their Lee-Enfields, Brens and Stens.
In Cyprus, the Greek defense forces (the Cyprus National Guard is the armed forces of the Greek portion of the divided island of Cyprus) is selling off some 9,000 of its oldest (as in very old) weapons to collectors. These World War II [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>StrategyPage <a href="http://www.strategypage.com/militaryforums/478-4141.aspx">reports</a> thats the Greeks are selling off their Lee-Enfields, Brens and Stens.</p>
<blockquote><p>In Cyprus, the Greek defense forces (the Cyprus National Guard is the armed forces of the Greek portion of the divided island of Cyprus) is selling off some 9,000 of its oldest (as in very old) weapons to collectors. These World War II era weapons include over 7,000 Lee-Enfield No 4 rifles, 1,000 Sten submachine guns and 90 Bren machine-guns.<strong> A set of guns (one of each) is going for $1,700. The Stens, which are quite rare these days, go for nearly $650 each. All these weapons will be demilitarized (firing pins removed and a metal plug inserted inside the barrel.) </strong>The weapons would sell for more if they were sold in firing condition, but there was fear that terrorists or other criminals would buy and use them.</p></blockquote>
<p>It is a pity they are deactivating them. The terrorist justification is nonsense, but I can understand them deactivating the Stens and Brens, they can&#8217;t sell them to civilians, but deactivating enfields is such a waste.</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/wikipedia-commons-9-99-pistolet-maszynowy-sten-muzeum-ora-biaego.jpg" onclick="window.open('http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/wikipedia-commons-9-99-pistolet-maszynowy-sten-muzeum-ora-biaego.jpg','popup','width=2112+20,height=1055+20,scrollbars=no,resizable=yes,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=yes,left=0,top=0');return false" class="tfb_thumbnail"><img rel="thumbnail" src="http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/wikipedia-commons-9-99-pistolet-maszynowy-sten-muzeum-ora-biaego-tm.jpg" height="199" width="400" align="" border="1" hspace="4" vspace="4" alt=" Wikipedia Commons 9 99 Pistolet Maszynowy Sten, Muzeum Orła Białego" title="" longdesc="" /></a><br />
<em>Sten Mk II submachine gun (From Wikipedia)</em></p>
<p>Hat Tip: <a href="http://ridenshoot.blogspot.com/2008/12/sten-for-thee-and-lee-for-me.html">Ride Fast &#38; Shoot Straight</a></p>
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		<title>Mumbai police now complaining about WWI rifles and WWII helmets</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Times reports the Mumbai police are now complaining about having to use WWI rifles (probably not quite true) and WWII helmets. Can you believe the audacity of these cowards!
The contrast between them was vividly illustrated yesterday by CCTV footage of two militants attacking Chhatrapati Shivaji terminus, Mumbai’s main railway station, last Wednesday.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Times <a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article5276283.ece">reports</a> the Mumbai police are now complaining about having to use WWI rifles (probably not quite true) and WWII helmets. Can you believe the audacity of these cowards!</p>
<blockquote><p>The contrast between them was vividly illustrated yesterday by CCTV footage of two militants attacking Chhatrapati Shivaji terminus, Mumbai’s main railway station, last Wednesday.</p>
<p>It shows the gunmen spraying automatic fire while two constables cower behind pillars, one armed with a<strong> .303 rifle similar to the Lee-Enfield weapons used by British troops in the First World War.<br />
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<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/800px-lee-enfield-rifle.jpg" onclick="window.open('http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/800px-lee-enfield-rifle.jpg','popup','width=800+20,height=187+20,scrollbars=no,resizable=yes,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=yes,left=0,top=0');return false" class="tfb_thumbnail"><img rel="thumbnail" src="http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/800px-lee-enfield-rifle-tm.jpg" height="93" width="400" align="" border="1" hspace="4" vspace="4" alt="800Px-Lee-Enfield Rifle" title="" longdesc="" /></a><br />
<em>Lee-Enfield Rifle No 4 Mk I</em></p>
<p>In other words: locally produced .303 Lee-Enfield Rifle No 4 Mk I. rifles (Used by the Allies in WWII) or  Ishapore .308 Lee-Enfields. Now you may think its an unfair fight with the terrorist rate of fire far higher than the police but consider this:</p>
<p><strong>Terrorists</strong>: 16<br />
<strong>Mumbai police force</strong>: 16,308 (based on India&#8217;s ratio of 126 officers per 100,000 population)<br />
<strong>Approx. ratio of terrorists to officers</strong>: 1:1000</p>
<p><strong>AK Rate of fire</strong>: 600 rounds per minutes (effective rate of fire of fire when taking into account reloading is much less)<br />
<strong>Lee Enfield rate of fire</strong>: 20+ aimed rounds per minute (a well trained operator).</p>
<p><strong>Terrorist rate of fire</strong>: 9600 rounds per minute.<br />
<strong>Police rate of fire</strong>: 327,600 rounds per minute.</p>
<p>The majority of the force would not be front line officers nor would they have 16,000 rifles, but you see the point I am trying to make.</p>
<blockquote><p>“The helmets used last week were World War Two-era, not designed for combat,” he said.</p></blockquote>
<p>I need not comment on this ridiculous statement.</p>
<blockquote><p>Y. P. Singh, who retired after 20 years in the Maharashtra police in 2005, said that he knew of two batches of body armour that had failed tests in 2001 and 2004. “They couldn’t take rounds from AK47 or AK56,” he said. “The bullets pierced the jackets.”</p></blockquote>
<p><em>(No doubt they are referring to the Chinese Type 56 AK clone. There is no AK-56)</em></p>
<p>Most police forces around the world likely use Type II armor. I don&#8217;t think anyone expected the cops to charge the terrorist with fixed bayonets.</p>
<blockquote><p>Most of the police involved were carrying .303s or self-loading rifles like those adopted by the British Army in the 1950s.</p>
<p>Some officers said that they were not given enough weapons training because of a shortage of ammunition and shooting ranges. In theory, all officers shoot 50 rounds a year in training. In practice, senior officers get their full quota with small arms.</p></blockquote>
<p>They then admit that their arsenal also includes the [likely semi-] automatic 7.62mm NATO FN FAL. From their performance I would have guessed they never trained with arms.</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/800px-ak-47-and-type-56-dd-st-85-01269.jpg" onclick="window.open('http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/800px-ak-47-and-type-56-dd-st-85-01269.jpg','popup','width=800+20,height=525+20,scrollbars=no,resizable=yes,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=yes,left=0,top=0');return false" class="tfb_thumbnail"><img rel="thumbnail" src="http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/800px-ak-47-and-type-56-dd-st-85-01269-tm.jpg" height="262" width="400" align="" border="1" hspace="4" vspace="4" alt="800Px-Ak-47 And Type 56 Dd-St-85-01269" title="" longdesc="" /></a><br />
<em>Type  56 (Top)<br />
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<p>I would be criticizing any police force, from any country or city, if they performed this badly.</p>
<p>mattling posted this comment on the poor police response on the <a href="http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/02/mp5-is-more-deadly-than-ak-says-indian-commando/">previous post where I discussed</a> the attacks:</p>
<blockquote><p>Numerous reasons:</p>
<p>1. Everyone’s gotten used to bomb blasts in Mumbai and Delhi.<br />
2. Police forces still carry equipment from WWII (not that old but the factories all make replicas)<br />
3. Even after years of dealing with the mob and terrorism, police hierarchy is simply not equipped to deal with these kinds of threats.<br />
4. Private citizens can’t import modern guns, make do with homemade and unreliable pistols.<br />
5. No intelligence on the ground and lack of inter-agency coordination.<br />
6. Corruption plays a part as well.<br />
Pretty much the same reasons that led to 9/11 and that lead to general police incompetence in any american city, except here the police vans don’t have kevlar lining in their doors and ambulances are cramped 10 year old suvs converted for private use. All these factors (and more) led to a domino effect which resulted in a days long siege where it would’ve ended in a matter of an evening in America.<br />
You know there’s something wrong when police are setting up cordons with bungee cords. How do you expect them to contain these attackers on the move? Senior officers were killed within the early hours leading to even more chaos on the ground. The joker couldn’t have schemed it better. (And he’s the ultimate schemer of them all, despite all appearances and catchphrases).<br />
Horrible analogy, but this was Heat turned into “The Kingdom”.</p></blockquote>
<p><em>In unrelated new: I am kicking myself for recently turning down a Lee Enfield mk. 5 Jungle Carbine (a real one) for a very good price.<br />
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<em>[ Photos from Wikipedia ]</em></p>
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		<title>Enfield rifle with water trigger system</title>
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This Enfield would fire when enough water dripped (along the wire, I think) from the top can into the bottom can. It was used by the ANZAC forces at Gallipoli (WWI) to make the Turkish forces think they were still in the trenches while they were retreating. 
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<p>This Enfield would fire when enough water dripped (along the wire, I think) from the top can into the bottom can. It was used by the ANZAC forces at <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gallipoli">Gallipoli</a> (WWI) to make the Turkish forces think they were still in the trenches while they were retreating. </p>
<p>Very clever. I want to make one! (With blanks, of course).</p>
<p>H/T: <a href="http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=86332&amp;page=189">MP.net</a></p>
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		<title>Enfield with AR stock and pistol grip</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.specialinterestarms.com/">SIA</a> are considering producing this stock adapter for the Enfield rifle.</p>
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		<title>.45 enfield</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Check out this rifle!  Beautiful! I think it is a .45, but I could be wrong.
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I like the drum magazine  
Hat Tip: Gun and Game
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out this rifle!  Beautiful! I think it is a .45, but I could be wrong.</p>
<p>Click to enlarge the photo.</p>
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I like the drum magazine <img src='http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' title="icon razz .45 enfield photo" /> </p>
<p>Hat Tip: <a href="http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/enfield-rifles/43976-try-again-enfield-photos.html">Gun and Game</a></p>
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