7.62 TAVOR 7 from IWI USA on Display at [AUSA 2017]

The 2017 Association of the US Army annual meeting was the public debut of Israel’s new full caliber bullpup rifle, the Tavor 7. Announced in late June via IWI’s Facebook page, the Tavor 7 is a 7.62mm / .308 Winchester caliber semiautomatic bullpup rifle patterned after the Tavor family of 5.56mm (etc.) caliber bullpups.

behold my crappy photography

 

The Tavor 7 hybridizes features of both the TAR-21 and the Micro Tavor/X95, as well as incorporating some brand new features like a toolless ejection port switching procedure and front MLOK slots on the Tavor-like handguard.

Unlike the original Tavor, the Tavor 7’s ejection swapping procedure is very quick and simple, as partially demonstrated in the video above. To complete the procedure, it is also necessary to remove the bolt and rotate about its axis, then replace it. The charging handle can also be swapped right to left via an even simpler process using just a bullet tip, without weapon disassembly.

It would be, strictly speaking, inaccurate to say that the Tavor 7 is, well, a Tavor, as it deviates from the original design significantly. Where the Tavor family has previously used a Desert Eagle-style bolt profile with non-axisymmetrical lugs, the Tavor 7 utilizes a Stoner-type bolt, similar to an AR-15 or AR-10:

My initial impression over the Tavor 7 is that its design is an improvement over that of the Tavor’s. Notably, the rifle clocks in at a very modest 8.6 pounds, which is scarcely heavier than the original Tavor itself, despite being designed for a much larger caliber, and sporting a substantially beefier barrel. Having said that, I’m increasingly of the opinion that .308-class bullpups are just not a great idea. They have annoying balance due to their massive rear-mounted receivers, and bring the considerable muzzle blast and volume of noise of the full-power round much closer to your face than their conventional counterparts. The latter is particularly exacerbated by the fact that most lightweight .308 semiautomatics beg for a muzzle brake (which the Tavor 7 already has), making the experience that much more unpleasant. The Tavor 7 is certainly not an exception to the former,  either, with its point of balance being behind the hand (roughly below the round barrel removal access point), and the whole rifle having that a very chunky and piggish feeling.

Having said that, I bet IWI will sell a truckload.

IWI USA representatives told me that the Tavor 7 will be available in .308/7.62 only to start, with the possibility for other calibers down the line. They said that if a 5.56mm-class version of the Tavor 7 is introduced, it will not be very soon. The Tavor 7 takes SR-25 magazines.



Nathaniel F

Nathaniel is a history enthusiast and firearms hobbyist whose primary interest lies in military small arms technological developments beginning with the smokeless powder era. In addition to contributing to The Firearm Blog, he runs 196,800 Revolutions Per Minute, a blog devoted to modern small arms design and theory. He is also the author of the original web serial Heartblood, which is being updated and edited regularly. He can be reached via email at nathaniel.f@staff.thefirearmblog.com.


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  • Aono

    And the wait begins for a 20-24″ 6.5CM model…

    I’d like to see a shooter’s ear db comparison test between these 308 bullpups and conventional ones.

  • LazyReader

    Nothing screams awesome than a gun that hasn’t sold particularly well than to repackage it. Same sh*% different wrapper.

    • The Tavor is actually one of the best, if not the best, selling non-AR 5.56 rifles to come out in the 21st century.

      There’s way more of them out there then SCAR 16’s, ACR’s, XCR’s, Bren 805’s, Sig MPX’s, or XCR’s. It’s completely crushed my beloved AUG in sales as well – IWI has sold more Tavor’s in its first year then the Steyr has sold in the last 30.

      • Anonymoose

        Everyone wanted the original Tavor, and everyone wanted the X95 when it first came out, until they discovered it had issues with accuracy and stuff.

        • Yeah it was a shame about the X95. From what little I’ve seen since on the forums, the newer one’s are holding better accuracy. But the original SAR was a solid 2 moa gun right from the get go, shame it has been discontinued.

          For the life of me I don’t know how they ruined the accuracy with the X95 – some weird change in barrel harmonics?

          Bullpups are like the various ‘Glock Killers”- the designers make terrific progress, improving on the failures of past models – and then somehow manage to insert a completely new flaw into their design that prevents widespread adoption.

          • noob

            designing anything new is like stacking a pyramid of bowling balls. change one thing and something else moves. gotta get it juuuust right.

          • Mr._Exterminatus

            I will say that my SAR was a 1 MOA or better rifle with good ammo, but mine may just be an anomaly.

      • Audie Bakerson

        Are you counting every AK 5.56 as a separate gun or not 21st century?

        • I would not consider that a 21st century design – it’s an AK74 with a different barrel and magazine. AK101 is listed as in service since 1995.

          I’d also be pretty surprised if there were that many 5.56 AK’s out there- especially given the $44 magazine price.

          Based on just anecdotal forum browsing, AK’s seem to be overwhelmingly 7.62, then 5.45 a distant 2nd, and 5.56 a rarity.

          It’s a shame the Definitive Arms AK to AR15 magazine adapter did not become more widespread. That would have hugely increased the appeal of a 5.56 AK imo. Also would have reallllllly helped with sales of the 6.5 Grendel Vepr.

  • therealgreenplease

    A good chunk of the balance and noise problem would be mitigated by the addition of a suppressor. You’d be looking at a 10lb weapon at that point but, IMO, that’s very reasonable for a compact and well balanced suppressed .308

    • When you factor in suppressor, weapon light, and IR laser, you end up with 1.5-2lbs of gear hanging off the front of the gun, and a rearward weight bias starts to make a whole lot more sense.

      Also, the further the weight is to the rear, the easier it is to support, as it exerts less mechanical leverage against the shoulder. Thats why it’s a lot easier to hold a gallon of milk close to your chest, but it becomes extremely heavy when held out at arms length.

      • Hold a gallon of milk close to your chest with just the handle resting on your thumb. Now hold it out, but with the bottom resting on the upturned palm of your hand.

        I have my bets on which is easier.

        • I just tried it with a gallon of water I managed to find in the garage that uses the same milk jug style bottle.

          Much as I would have imagined, it is much harder to hold a gallon at full extension, palm up, then it is even to hold it by the web between my thumb and index.

          What was the point of this exercise?

          • Having spoken with you extensively on the subject, I am pretty sure that if a superintelligent AI (or, maybe, God) concluded that bullpups were just worse than conventional rifles, you would not believe it.

            Which is fine, I don’t have a problem with that. But there are real disadvantages the bullpup has. Admittedly, I didn’t have a milk jug handy when I proposed that experiment (nor do I now, I am traveling), so I didn’t exactly have the result in my pocket before I wrote that. That’s OK, I’ll have to go home and see if I can verify your results.

            However, I have looked at this problem with actual, no kidding bullpups, and there are factors you are missing in your consideration.

            Also, come to think of it, even if the experiment turns out the way you say, doesn’t that mean conventionals with their short LOP offer a handling advantage?

          • “The window through which we view the world is obscured by our own reflection.”

            There’s absolutely a credible argument to be made for both sides in the conventional vs bullpup (hell, an easy one you could have made is that the front heavy nature of a conventional would mitigate muzzle climb when used in full auto.)

            But that you would question the basic physics and physiology of a weight being more fatiguing to support the further it is from the shoulder – something that is not debatable – thats serious ideological commitment to the bullpups suck lifestyle.

            The length of pull of the bullpup has no effect on that – what matters is how far the weight is from the shoulder.

            With a bullpup, the weight is rear of the pistol grip, so most of the weight is concentrated in the ~ 15″ pocket from the shoulder to the grip. This weight is further reduced by the friction of the stock pressing against the shoulder, which helps support this weight. (Much in the same way that when moving, you can take a rest by pressing the heavy box you are moving against a wall. Source: currently moving.)

            This is also just readily seen in the videos of bullpups being shot one handed off the shoulder out to 300 yards. Also pics I’ve shown of AUG’s being used by dog handlers because it’s an easy rifle to fire one handed…

            As previously proposed, get a conventional rifle and a bullpup, add the weight of a suppressor + ir laser + wml to the front of both, and then time which one you can hold on a target 50-100 yards away longer (obviously resting an hour in between so that it’s a fresh start for both.)

    • noob

      you will have to add a QD mount for your optic – the gas adjustment is in a hole in the middle of the 12 o’clock rail of most tavors so you will need to be able to get under your optic to switch your gas.

    • iksnilol

      What kind of crappy suppressor weighs 2 pounds?

      • Brett baker

        1.4 pounds. Some of the lower cost ones with good performance use steel instead of titanium.

        • iksnilol

          I guess it’s a somewhat acceptable option.

          Tho king of suppressors is the Hausken “I want to integrally suppress my gun but can’t be bothered to do more than threading my barrel and lopping off the forestock” Whisper. That sucker is 1.2 kg and goes from muzzle to almost receiver.

  • Porty1119

    Oh look, something that pegs both of my primary hate buttons in a semiauto rifle – bullpup and .308. Do not want.

    • Cal S.

      Are you triggered yet?

      Kel-Tec RFB
      Desert Tech

      This…

      Are you triggered yet? 😉

      • Porty1119

        Definitely, solidly triggered! 😉

        • Anonymoose

          Is it a horrible, heavy triggering like that found in the bullpups that trigger you?

    • Anonymoose

      I would rather have it in .338 or .358. :

    • Joe

      I hate excessive bullpup LOP and don’t shoot far enough for 7.62 NATO to have a point, but the Kel-Tec RDB Survival is appealing to me outside of a military context. Maybe, I’d have to handle one to make that call.

  • nadnerbus

    So…will they go back to the 5.56 Tavor and use the same design changes to lighten it up? The weight of that rifle was one of the things that did not impress me, for a largely polymer, modern design rifle.

    • noob

      It’s got a polymer shell, but the serialized part is a huge hollow steel chassis/receiver. You can see the serial number cut into the steel though a cutout on the polymer stock.

  • Screwface_Romeo

    Any word on MSRP?

  • Disgruntled

    Too little too late IWI. Desert Tech has the market now.

    • Pseudo

      If they can produce the MDR in any sort of quantity, yes, but so far they’re barely trickling out. Also, price point might set them apart.

      • Disgruntled

        I think they can produce them in quantity once they get their act together. And the price point on these two isn’t going to be far from each other. Given the modularity and ease of caliber conversion on the MDR, I think it will come out on top. I’m not knocking the tavor, I just think its been beaten by DT.

      • Tom-UK

        Do you have any actual proof that they are “trickling them out”? As in production numbers, links to articles etc?

        Or are you just going off internet say so?

    • I think the reverse is likely true. IWI has brand recognition, an built in network of distributors, and a much larger manufacturing base. And they will be cheaper.

      It’s much more likely that IWI is going to kneecap the sales of the MDR.

      That being said, I do think the MDR is the cooler rifle, and would be the one I’d rather have.

      • Disgruntled

        Always a possibility, but DT has a lot of good press from their SRS line and I think that carries over. Given the features of the MDR and the fact its taken IWI so long to innovate something new for their gun, I’d give the edge to DT. The chassis system DT has is the best on the market and I think that will pull a lot of people away from the tavor, given the fact the MDR can swap calibers in 60 seconds, ejection swap is simpler, trigger and precision are way better, and you can go .308 to 5.56 in the same chassis. A close race, but DT had the features to beat the tavor in the long run. They just have to get their act together as a company and start producing the guns people have been begging to have for almost 3 years now.

        • It will be curious to see who wins this battle of the pups, and I’m certainly rooting for DT.

          But if I had to wager money, it would be on IWI. Lower cost, wider availability, wider name recognition, a bizarre belief that anything that comes from Israel must be battle proven, and the wider network of people with a financial incentive in selling Tavor’s.

          The AUG is a better, more advanced bullpup then the Tavor in most regards (except for mag change speed.) But the Tavor straight up crushed it in sales. I suspect we will see the same here.

          • noob

            the new AUG -derived offering from Thales has trigger finger actuated mag release. I’d love to see in the guts of it to find out how they did it without making the button too stiff.

          • Well since the F90 export uses AR mags, I suspect they more or less copied the X95 whole cloth when it comes to the mag release.

            I just wish they had copied the Tavor’s bolt release as well. The little button behind the magazine, where the T’s bolt release, is actually a “backup mag release” for some reason.

  • Vitor Roma

    Considering that .308 guns usually have longer and heavier barrels that can be front heavy, I have to say they really benefit from the bullpup concept.

  • Nicholas Mew

    That ejection system is what I am most impressed with. More ideal overall than the MDR’s system. I would like to see more in detail later.

    • Vitor Roma

      It’s not more ideal. The MDR doesn’t require change to not eat brass, but the change is still quite fast, just switch the panels. This one is a tad more task intensive and necessary to avoid eating brass if shooting with the other hand. Buuuut the advantage is that didn’t require the R&D that the MDR required.

      • iksnilol

        Well, Beretta ARX-160 has a button that you press to switch ejection. And keltec has models with both front ejection and under the stock ejection.

        • Spike

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d41287c2564b7aee5e817cfef2fab505d2727f49536bb7d4a3beebfbf82f2c11.png
          My design (mk1), using ARX bolt (push button below rear QD socket)… If I get off my backside and do the mk2 it was gonna have similar port cover to what Tav7 has (thanks IWI for nicking my idea! LOL), a less bulky rear (based on a BCM gunfighter stock) and better barrel removal and handguard locking system.

          • huh

            what program do you use?

          • Cool design! What’s it weigh?

          • Spike

            No idea, it started as an SA80 replacement idea, so if it weighs anything less than a L85 that would be good!

          • Samuel Millwright

            ^5 spike that kicks ass!!!

            Here’s hoping you get to make chips on a real steel version soon that way i can hate you and yout youtube testing videos with the kind of hate only seething jealousy and deep seated feelings of inadequacy can create!

          • Spike

            Haha, there’s no need for the hate, I’m in the UK – any attempt to make this would get me a quick trip to ‘The Tower’!

          • Samuel Millwright

            Well come out here to the states and use my machines then! I could clear out space in the gun safe for your prototype and i have an amazon prime account etc… I’d totally order stuff ahead of an out of country visitor showing up to work on a project on my machines!

            A guy who goes by the name longziz did the same thing a few years ago when he built his bullpup rifle design the longziz #1

      • Nicholas Mew

        I mean’t more in the sense that while not quite as ambi as the MDR, it provides a clear view to the chamber for inspection and clearing. That it can be changed to either side without tools and quite easily is a nice touch to me. But yeah it is not perfect though.

  • SP mclaughlin

    60 round 7.62 magazine soon?

    • None

      X Products makes a 50 round drum. But that might interfere on a bullpup.

    • Anonymoose

      Just get a belt, or a skeletonized X-products drum.

    • Dustin Robinson

      And then a top mounted firing computer with built in blue tooth linked sighting, a LED bullet counter/compass display, and then we just need it to be select fire and wildly inaccurate past 10 yards…

  • USMC03Vet

    This is not the 7.62 I was looking for…😭

  • Brett baker

    Was General Milley spotted around the IWI booth?

    • William Elliott

      HAHAHA, I was just thinking about that…now imagine the possibilities for a 30 round mag, high BC cartridge [not limited by the AR15 magazine well, with 1000 meter capabilities, that is lighter and more efficient than the 7.62 NATO 😉

  • Kaban

    *wonders about exhaust and noise. The can will fix the later, but may just make the former even worser*

  • William Elliott

    Ooooh, I see possibilities…and if IWI can get conversion kits out, you could run all sorts of different cartridges and barrel lengths.
    6.5 Creedmoor, maybe a mag well block and run 7.62×39 and 6.8 SPC based cartridges…so many possibilities. IF they kept the hollow under the bolt tunnel a small manufacturer could create a cleaning kit that fits in there specifically.
    And if your problem is blast too close to your face, that’s what suppressors are for

  • Christopher Wallace

    Guaranteed to shoot under 2 MOG

    minute of grapefruit

  • vwVwwVwv

    I’ll wait for the 50 Browning micro UZI
    (Can’t get favor in Germany) 🙁

    • vwVwwVwv

      Tavor! damn autocorrector!

    • Johannes von’ Strauch

      Geniale Idee. Tschüss Trommelfell haha.

      • vwVwwVwv

        Man sieht sich. 😉

  • FOC Ewe

    Experiment on US Consumers before IDF trials/adoption. Got it! 😆

    • RPJ

      Well I’m ready to test mine out. The sooner the better.

  • Adam D.

    It looks like a very squared away gun.
    It’s just that damn X95 grip.

    Wonder what the accuracy is like.

  • Gregory

    I see people b*tching and badmouthing this rifle and not a single person has done more than look at a picture of it. Wow, I wish I was that good. All of you must have magical powers.

    • Dan

      Bruh Internet expert powers beat magic powers everyday of the week.

  • Machinegunnertim

    Ok Nathaniel, when the Terminators invade your neighborhood you’ll be wishing you had one of these.

  • Beezer

    Stop saying “having said that”. It’s useless verbiage that actually does the opposite of making you sound smart. Just leave it out and go on with your text.

    • mrsatyre

      At least neither of you said “utilized”. Thanks for that.

  • Holland1953

    After all is said and done – All the points read, re-read and digested, All the criticism and praise laid next to each other and compared, The ONLY hitherto unmentioned and exceedingly technical point I would like to make is that this .308″ Bullpup looks really snazzy. 😀