8 Reasons The 1911 Is Better Than Glock

It’s no secret, the Glock isn’t perfect. Could there really be 8 reasons why the 1911 is better than Glock? Probably not, but Patrick tries like hell to come up with a couple legitimate reasons in this episode of TFBTV.

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Patrick R

Patrick is a Senior Writer for The Firearm Blog and TFBTV Host. He likes guns and has liked shooting guns for as long as he can remember. You can follow Patrick on Instagram @tfbpatrick, Facebook, or contact him by email at TFBpatrick@gmail.com.

The above post is my opinion and does not reflect the views of any company or organization.


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  • BravoSeven

    LOL

  • Alan

    Still want a Commander/Champion single stack G19 with bobtail.

    #Pedantic

    • Ranger Rick

      Then check out the new S&W M&P M2

  • Some Guy

    >Better trigger
    >Thinner
    >Heavier -> softer shooting
    >Probably better ergos for most people
    >sexier

    That’s all I got

    • Major Tom

      Better combat history than Glock too.

      • retfed

        Longer, anyway. If longevity is the yardstick, then the Brown Bess is better than the AR.

        • QuadGMoto

          I think the BB truly is retired, only occasionally being let out by the home to go on supervised walks.

        • Major Tom

          Well the Brown Bess is the reason why continental Europe is not under the yoke of the House of Bonaparte.

          • retfed

            See? It IS better!

  • Thorin Haney

    Lets face it, both the 1911 and glock suck.

  • Tym O’Byrne

    Real men carry 1927’s.

  • iksnilol

    I’ve a feeling that Nathaniel is going all “you have grown wise, young padawan”… like a really bearded Yoda.

  • Madison J Coleman

    I didn’t watch the video yet, but I already know it’s true because of the title. And I am not even a 1911 fan.

  • Mr. Katt

    5″ barrel S&W M629 . . . . beats the M1911 every time. And the Ma Deuce has been in service longer than the 1911 . . . makin’ ketchup outta hadjis since 1933.

    • Major Tom

      1911 is still technically in service on a very limited basis. Technically.

  • BillC

    GR8 B8 M8.

  • Moondo

    And I called James the Titty Twister….

  • tony

    This is what happens when one runs out of material for making videos.

  • Paul Rain

    #1: Manual safety for increased safety
    #2: Single-stack magazine for truly reliable feeding with all types of ammunition
    #3: Hammer fired for usable trigger
    #4: Better sights
    #5: Aesthetic
    #6: Your grandchildren might keep and cherish it rather than sweeping it into the junk pile
    #7: Aesthetic
    #8: Better grip angle

    It’s not exactly difficult, guys.

    • retfed

      “Manual safety . . .” In my 30 years of LE in a major city, the only two officer-involved fatal NDs i know of were committed (if that’s the word) with 1911s.
      “Single-stack magazine . . .” The only guns I ever owned that consistently had FTFs and FTEs (stovepipes) were Colt and Detonics 1911s. They were caused by magazines. The only double-stack magazines I ever had problems with were Model 59 magazines.
      “Hammer fired . . .” I’ll give you that, even though I prefer DAO autos. They have better triggers than striker-fired pistols, too.
      “Better sights.” With factory Glock sights vs. modern 1911 sights, yeah. Versus original military sights, no.
      “Aesthetic.” Irrelevant, if you’re using it as a tool. You don’t buy a fire extinguisher or a screwdriver for its looks.
      “Your grandchildren . . .” Maybe, maybe not. They may think a 1911 is just an old hunk of rust-prone tool steel, but a Glock is made of maintenance-free impervious materials.
      “Aesthetic.” See above.
      “Better grip angle.” First of all, “muscle memory is in your brain, not your muscles, and the same muscles can hold a bunch of different “memories.” I hope you don’t use your 1911 muscle memory when you try to hoist a beer or go to the bathroom. In the second place, the human hand is a marvelous thing. I ‘m not unusually dexterous, yet I can successfully and safely manipulate a screwdriver, a fork, a Glock, a chainsaw, a steering wheel, a keyboard, a 1911, and a hammer (sometimes more than one of them in the same day, if I’m feeling adventurouis).
      If you love your 1911, that’s great. But don’t pretend it’s the best tool available in the third millennium.

      • ozzallos .

        Did your fatal NDC officers… Well, i dunno… engage the safety? Weak chamber support and glock-leg is a thing too if we want to start cherry-picking bad examples.

        • retfed

          I wasn’t “cherry-picking bad examples.” If I knew of any other fatal NDs, I would have included them. One ND occurred during a foot chase and the other during a fight arising from a gunpoint arrest, so I doubt if the safeties were engaged. The significant thing is that these are the ONLY two I know of in a city with over a million inhabitants and over ten thousand police. My real point was, manual safeties don’t guarantee anything. There are too many variables.
          And, of course, the 1911 is (in)famous for magazine problems. You never hear anyone advising people to dump their factory Glock or Sig mags for Chip McCormicks.

          • QuadGMoto

            What caused those discharges? Was it because the trigger pulled, or something else, such as an impact due to a dropped gun?

          • Dan

            Or maybe their firearms were hit with hammers!!!!

          • retfed

            In the first instance, an officer was in a foot chase when he slipped on a patch of ice. When he went down, his hand tightened (automatic reaction, you can’t stop it), and he pulled the trigger, hitting the person he was chasing in the back. In the second, two officers attempted to arrest a drug dealer at gunpoint and a fight ensued. During the fight, an officer’s 1911 discharged (one story is that the cop pulled the trigger, the other is that it discharged when he hit the drug dealer with it. We’ll never know the truth, since lawyers got involved), and the shot killed the officer’s partner.
            My point is, a manual safety doesn’t guarantee “increased safety.” There are too many variables involved.

          • iksnilol

            You can stop it, anybody that’s worked in a laboratory knows to not tighter or grab things that fall. Same thing could have happened with a Glock.

            So I fail to see the relevancy of that first anecdote.

          • retfed

            He wasn’t grabbing a falling gun, he was falling himself, while holding the gun.
            When you fall while holding something, your hand automatically tightens into a fist; it’s a natural reaction and you can’t stop it. That’s what happened in that case. His finger obviously was on the trigger when that happened. The result: One dead burglary suspect and one fired cop. (I can’t remember if he was prosecuted.)

          • iksnilol

            if he’s falling with a gun, then the gun is falling as well.

            His fault , never grab falling things… also, why was his finger on the trigger?

          • retfed

            Yep, that’s the question.
            My original point was, manual safeties don’t necessarily make a gun safer. The ultimate safety is between your ears.
            I think we can agree on that.

          • ozzallos .

            You’re talking about a PC vs Mac problem now. Everybody makes PC and your quality varies. Only one company assembles macs and quality control is typically uniformly tight.

            I can point to just as many good examples of 1911s as you can bad because everybody and their mother in the middle east makes them now. So much as I hate to say it, your argument is irrelevant at best. Of course there are crappy examples. So don’t buy them or their magazine, who again everybody makes to varying degrees of quality.

            In terms of safety, I walked around for years with a 1911, hammer back round in the chamber with the safety engaged. Hell, I’ve dropped and am womehow I’m still alive. Your example of lack of safety is no more relevant than my continued breathing.

          • QuadGMoto

            …PC vs Mac…

            Oooh! Do we get to have PC vs. Mac debates now?!? Goody! </kidding>

          • Paul Rain

            PC’s are generally better than Macs for converting into hidden gun safes, apart from the G5 Mac Pro. Everyone should have one.

          • QuadGMoto

            What are you talking about? The Cheesegrater has a quick access lever that PC cases don’t! All you need to do is steal the fingerprint sensor from an iPhone, wave Steve’s RDF over it… 😜

          • QuadGMoto

            For those who don’t know, RDF = Reality Distortion Field, something that Steve Jobs was famous for projecting about his products.

          • retfed

            You’re missing my point.
            The original comment was, “Manual safety for increased safety.” My point was, a manual safety doesn’t guarantee anything, since there are too many other variables at work at the same time.
            And for the record, I’ve dropped a Glock without any loud noises, either. Any pistol designed in the 20th century that’s well made and decently maintained is generally drop-safe (except for maybe the P320). Saying “I’ve dropped a [insert gun here] is a meaningless statement.
            I don’t care if you carry a 1911 every day. I don’t care if you carry a Colt Dragoon. If you like it, that’s great. But there are more modern, efficient designs in in the world today.

          • retfed

            The guns were Colts. The magazines probably were, too. These both happened back when nobody but Colt was making 1911s.

          • retfed

            I walked around for years with a Condition One 1911 with no problems, also. I’m not ignorant regarding 1911s or their operation. But time moved forward, and so did I. I’m just saying that a manual safety doesn’t guarantee anything, since there are too many other variables at work.
            If the only gun I could carry were a 1911, I wouldn’t be too bothered by it. But there are better choices today than there were even 30 years ago.

      • Paul Rain

        In talking about fatal ND’s, let’s not forget calibre. Most Glock ND’s I’ve heard of involved 9mm or Short & Weak, wheras I’m not aware of any PD going with a .38 Super or other off-calibre 1911. With great power comes great responsibility.

        • retfed

          My point was, manual safeties don’t really guarantee greater safety. There are too many variables involved.

          • Tom Currie

            True. A manual safety cannot overcome incompetence, poor training, and just plain stupidity.

          • Wm Reich

            Actually I think a manual operated safety (with proper training of course) does have an edge in safety..

            Study the Infant Grasping Reflex (IGR).. Physicians tell us that the condition goes away as we age.. Reality is far different. Under Stress it returns,, The Ergonomics of the Glock coupled with the absence of a Manually Operated Mechanical Safety.. Has on more than one occasion due to the nature of Police work caused an unintended discharge with injuries often to the suspect covered by the gun..

            Officers in Arizona (at least two I am familiar with) were properly acquitted after the Jury was made cognizant of the Infant Grasping Reflex effect on adults under stress. I believe it could be demonstrated that the IGR has a role in many unintended discharges of Glocks by Peace Officers in administrative circumstances as well.

          • retfed

            Yep.
            Back in the 70s, the old Police Marksman magazine printed an article on a study that was conducted on the “startle reflex,” which sounds like the IGR. The methodology of the study was this: An officer was handed a gun and told that the target at the other end of a simulated alley was a subject to be arrested at gunpoint. The officer approached the target by walking down the “alley.” Partway down the alley, the officer passed a hidden person, who reached out and squeezed the back of the officer’s thigh. One hundred percent of the tested officers fired a shot when that happened. The weapon they used was a K-frame revolver with a 10- to 12-pound trigger pull (it was the 70s). So trigger weight isn’t really a factor.
            The other reason I think the “manual safety is safer” argument is bogus is personal. Like the officer who killed the guy he was chasing, I once slipped on a patch of ice (I like to think it was frozen water, but it probably wasn’t) and slid on my back down a flight of steel-tipped concrete steps in a housing project with a Glock in my hand. I felt my hand tighten up, I couldn’t stop it, but my finger was where it belonged, alongside the frame, and there were no loud noises. I credit proper training with saving the life of my partner, who was descending the stairs ahead of me. A manual safety would have made no difference, and if I had been holding a 1911 a certain way, I could easily have both wiped off the safety and pulled the trigger when my hand tried to tighten into a fist around the gun.
            The guy in “Black Hawk Down” who holds up his finger and says, “This is my safe” may have been an arrogant jagoff, but he was right. Your brain is better than a piece of metal.

          • QuadGMoto

            So far I’ve seen you describe situations where a manual safety cannot be on. In those cases I absolutely agree with you that there is no substitute for training and keeping your finger off the trigger and where it cannot accidentally slip into the trigger guard. (And when deer hunting, mittens are a perfect way to keep your finger off the trigger if you forget to flip them open! I know from experience!)

            But, I think there’s a case to be made for a manual safety making a gun safer in situations where the manual safety can be on, such as when holstering a gun.

            Furthermore, a case can be made for a manual safety making a gun harder to use in the event of a gun fight, which is again a training issue.

            Bottom line, I think we agree that there is no substitute for training and proper practice, and that includes a manual safety or lack thereof.

          • retfed

            I’ll agree with you on the holstering issue.
            I don’t quite understand what you mean by situations where the safety “cannot be on.” In both the fatal NDs I described (the foot chase and the fight), the officers could have easily activated the safeties, but apparently didn’t.
            You’re right. There is no substitute for proper training and proper practice. With the proper training and practice, any modern gun is safe and effective. Without it, no gun is.

          • QuadGMoto

            I mean times like when your gun is drawn for a fight. I don’t know what is considered “best practice” for those two incidents you described, but I expect that the safety would normally be off at such times.

          • Kurt Ingalls

            agreed….keep your booger hook off the boom switch until you believe it may get hot….. πŸ™‚

        • Klaus Von Schmitto

          Interestingly when I was a kid a lot of the Ft Walton Beach PD had 1911’s in 38 Super. That’s probably why I have been shooting 38 Super for 40 years now. Maybe it’s the difference maker in that I can’t remember the last malfunction I had. I guess the geometry of the 38 is just much better than the 45 in the 1911 platform.

          • Isaac O. Lees

            That’s because it was originally designed for a .38 cartridge. John Moses Browning thought .38 was just fine, but US Ordnance is full of idiots who demanded a big dumb cartridge based entirely on fuddlore and romanticism. So Browning slapped the .45 together and sledgehammered it into the design to appease the Army.

          • retfed

            Maybe that’s why JMB’s best design isn’t the 1911, it’s the Hi-Power.

          • Isaac O. Lees

            Indeed. When JMB decided to design his perfect pistol, he made it a high capacity 9mm.

            The 1911 was probably the best of the early automatic pistols. It would have been better if it wasn’t in Fuddy-five, but compared to everything else on the market in the teens it was the best. But the Hi-Power blows it out of the water.

          • disqus_f62emCdwDh

            Other than the barrel cam walking out after “excessive use.” Friend had a 1980s era BHP, shot 10,000 rds of factory ball, cam walked out of the frame. Sent it to Browning, snd they told him this was an abnormal amount of use and denied his claim for a new replaced frame.

            Then there’s the u and over trigger action, short tang hammer bite, and the mag disconnect to add to the pull…

            I rather disagree, even though I rather like the P-35.

          • QuadGMoto

            Except that the idiotic magazine disconnect safety was imposed on JMB. It wasn’t what he wanted in a design.

          • retfed

            My understanding is that the French military demanded a magazine disconnector to make the gun “safer,” much like the U.S. Army demanded a grip safety to make the 1911 “safer.”
            Poor JMB couldn’t catch a break. It’s what happens when you work with bureaucrats.

        • Isaac O. Lees

          Hahahahaha!
          >Calls the .40 “short and weak”
          >Shills for Fuddy-five
          You do know that .40 S&W is *more* powerful than .45 ACP, right?
          >hurr but it’s biggur lol
          It’s also slow and low pressure, in part due to the design of the 1911 not being well suited for high pressure cartridges until modern developments in metallurgy came along.

          It’s all irrelevant anyway though. All pistol cartridges are about equally piss weak, until you get into revolver magnum territory.

          • Paul Rain

            .40 S&W has never killed anyone, except for people who were embarrassed to death to be shot by it.

          • Isaac O. Lees

            Damn it man, now you’ve outed yourself as a troll and ruined the whole thing. You gotta be more subtle with your bait: don’t get greedy and you could string people along for hours.

          • Paul Rain

            I don’t know what you’re talking about- the statistics bear my previous statement out.

      • Martin M

        Sights Schmites! The 1911 is such a natural extension of the body it practically aims itself!

        • frsdf

          “Sights Schmites! The 1911 is such a natural extension of the body it practically aims itself!”
          I think the same, i like both, Glocks (only Glock19) and 1911s.
          But i think that when Gaston invented the Glock with this grip angle he wasent thinking in “Γ¨rfect” grip angle, i think thas he was thinking in other plus to his new futuristic plastic frame pistol, and this “plus” was 2 more bullets in the magazine/grip…..

          • iksnilol

            Reduces recoil though… Just he made the grip crappy.

            Reason why that angle works in target guns is because the grip is customized and fitted to your hand.

        • retfed

          Nah. The P7M8 is the most nautrally-pointing pistol ever made. Pointing a P7 is like pointing your finger.
          But “natural pointing” depends on what you’re used to. If all you’ve ever fired is a Glock, you’ll think the Glock is a natural pointer, and the 1911 points impossibly high. If all you’ve ever fired is a 1911, you’ll think the opposite.
          If you’ve fired both and can adjust between the two, you won’t twaddle on about it, you’ll just do it.

          • The Mystic Seer

            No, the Luger is, was and forever shall be the father and original natural pointing pistol. The p7 has that silly cocking thing no one (other than fanboys) ever liked. I owned a m8 and an m13. Hated them both.

          • retfed

            I’ve fondled several Lugers,but I’ve never fired one. Isn’t its grip angle very similar to the Glock’s?

          • iksnilol

            Completely different.

            *whistles*

        • Kurt Ingalls

          No it doesn’t….what an absolutely stupid thing to say…..and you absolutely know this…… LOL πŸ™‚

      • Wm Reich

        Overall I tend to agree with your position.. Particularly your last point.

    • jonjon7465

      Reliable???Lol not more than a Glock.

      • Dr. Daniel Jackson

        Glock reliability is way overblown,so are 1911 failures. I don’t think you will find a more reliable handgun than these: 11(note not ranked in an particular order)
        1. 1911 in .45 ACP
        2. Glock 9mm
        3. Browning Hi-Power
        4. Sig 220/226
        5. CZ 75
        6. Beretta 92/Taurus Pt92 (same gun better safety)
        7. Walther P99
        8. Tokarev
        9. Makarov
        10. Springfield XD and variations
        11. S&W 9MM

        Pick any of the above and you’ll have a gun that should perform flawlessly through thousands of rounds. 1911’s problems are often from A: poor/in proper cleaning,B: you bought the gun from Bubba,or you done Bubba’ed it yourself,or D: you bought a gun from a company that doesn’t make 1911’s well.

        The only 1911’s I’ll ever buy are made by Colt,Springfield, or RIA,I don’t trust any other manufacturers to make a 1911 that will run 100% of the time. The other companies I don’t list because they are way out of my price range or they make an inferior product (looking at you Kimber).

        I’ve never had any problems with GI style 5″ 1911’s,That haven’t been fiddled with. (Factory parts replaced with aftermarket garbage)

        • retfed

          Good point.
          When you buy a Glock, you buy something that was made by Glock, and Glock stands behind it. When you buy a “1911,” you’re buying a pattern, and the gun may have been made from parts that weren’t even made on the same continent. So comparing a “1911” to a Glock (or a Sig, or whatever) isn’t really a true comparison; you have to compare guns made with the same level of quality.
          The only 1911s I’ve ever owned were Colts (and one Detonics). They were good quality guns, and fine for their time (late 70s, early 80s). The only problems I ever had with them was stovepiping, and that was a magazine problem (especially with the Detonics’s short six-round mag). But today they’re heavy, high-maintenance, and low-capacity, in other words, obsolescent if not obsolete. They’ve been overtaken by events.

          • Dr. Daniel Jackson

            1911’s are not high maintenance by design,the ones that are deviated from the original GI format which is how they work best.

        • jonjon7465

          1911s are great guns and have many great features over a Glock. But reliability is not one of them. you get a glock it works right out of the box a 1911 is hit-or-miss

          • Dr. Daniel Jackson

            Not really I’ve never had any problems from 1911’s made by Springfield,Colt,or RIA.
            I have thousands of rounds through each one with no failures,my glock cracked its frame somewhere after 23k rounds,my Springer has around 41k with no parts breakage only thing I’ve replaced are the recoil springs after they wear out.

            1911’s are only hit or miss if you buy from a Company like Kimber that doesn’t know how to make one run worth a damn.
            Glocks are reliable yes but not more so than any other guns,I’ve owned almost one of every major handgun chambered in 9mm and.45 acp.

    • Kurt Ingalls

      Sucker………..clickbait………………. πŸ™‚

    • spiff1

      1. Trigger finger is the only safety.
      2. Since when is 7 rounds vs 15 or 17 better in an adverse situation?
      3. Hammers get caught up in clothing, and if the hammer gun is dropped at the right angle and height,it can go bang…
      4. Different sights are always an option for the shooter..
      5. Colt 1911 will always be historic to firearms enthusiasts.
      6. Your grandchildren will probably sell the Colt 1911 to purchase a ultra modern tv or computer due to its historic value…A Glock,however, will still be truckin’ on.
      7. ?
      8. No one has a patent on grip angle, what fits the user best is the best for that person…I have both 1911 and Glock, both fit me well….

  • Ranger Rick

    Who’s to say JMB wouldn’t be at the forefront of polymer firearms design if he were alive today, but dollars to euros his pistols would have a better trigger pull.

  • QuadGMoto

    When I saw the title of this video, I thought that maybe Patrick had escaped the Glock cult. The sarcasm (which really did make me laugh) says otherwise.

    But he missed reason #9: The 1911 is available from lots of different manufacturers with a wide variety of features and loadings, while Glock still has a monopoly on, well, Glocks. πŸ˜„

    (Just for the record, I do carry a 1911… in 9mm. It’s the best carry gun I’ve found so far.)

  • Wolfgar

    !911 is inherently more accurate.
    Patric’s most famous quote, “Suck it Butt Holes”, your Irish is showing LOL.

  • Steven

    I’ve carried both but the only one I’ve ever shot in combat was a stock issue 1911, I’m still here, not so sure about the other guy. Tell me again what Patrick’s credentials are besides being a web know it all?. He likes Glocks, I get that. But telling me having more rounds of 9mm to shoot at people makes the Glock better just tells me he is a leg I don’t want on my team.

  • vwVwwVwv

    This was funny to watch and a Gladius is better than both block and 1911,
    It erected an empire and spread fear among Gauls, Germans and Kelts….
    It has no malfunctions and will never runn out of Ammo. LOL

  • UWOTM8

    Why the Makarov is better than both

    1. Cyka
    2. Blyat
    3. Rush B
    4. Get out of here, stalker

    • iksnilol

      Actually fits in your pocket.

  • Mitch

    Patrick, Patrick, Patrick… I know I can’t be the only one that dislikes the approach you take with your material. I’m going to come out and say it- your lack of professional knowledge is evident, in my opinion. I’m really wondering how in the hell did you landed this job (let alone keep it so far). Click bait topics, mispronounciation of industry leading companies, and a general tone and affect that is just so lazy it’s offensive. Bottom line: you are actively bringing down the credibility and quality of the best gun blog around. I’d be happy to elaborate if you’d like.

    I really welcome everyone’s opinion here, and don’t intend to troll, provoke, or bully. I’m just tired of the revolving door of poor material, and well, Patrick.

    • Pedro

      I thought it was good for a laugh . . . lighten up Francis.

      • Mitch

        Nope. Standing by my statement.

        • QuadGMoto

          It was meant as a humor piece; a bit of pot-stirring and poking fun at both 1911 and Glock fanaticism.

          Humor is obviously one of those things that can be hit-or-miss, much like a Glock. 😜 (Really, any pistol in an average shooter’s hands.) It seems that it missed your funny bone. That’s okay. I enjoyed it, though.

        • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

          I guess that confirms my suspicion that you have no sense of humor.

    • Gary Foster

      At least he did not delete your comment like he did mine.

      • No one

        Writers don’t even have the power to delete comments on this site.

    • Ben

      “…you are actively bringing down the credibility and quality of the best gun blog around.”

      I can assure you, you’re not alone in feeling this way. I only go to Patrick’s articles to read the comments. I’ve read enough of his articles to know I don’t want to read any more, let alone watch a video.

      TFB needs to trim the fat before they become TTAG with their obnoxious daily “pocket dumps of the day” that include everything except for an M1 Abrams and a mini nuke.

      • Gregory Markle

        Used to be a GREAT blog years ago, now it’s mediocre at best and definitely accentuates quantity over quality. Still the occasional great article but it went from an always open tab to being skimmed via RSS a long time ago.

    • Porty1119

      I agree, Mitch. This video came across as an obvious attempt at troll bait, without any real useful commentary.

      Patrick, your TFB bio states that you love precision rifles. How about a compilation of tips and tricks you’ve gathered from your precision shooting experience? That would be genuinely useful.

    • Some Rabbit

      Yeah but, Patrick does let you see him shooting the gun from a dozen different angles for at least half of every video. So what his videos lack in technical details, he makes up for in ammo and range time. Kinda’ like that Old Hiccup 45 guy.

    • Dr. Daniel Jackson

      It isn’t just Patrick, Nick has always the one with most credibility at TFB(Hence why I go here less and less). They all don’t research enough as is evident when they talk about certain guns or subjects. They mean well but really you guys need people who can write better and know their stuff better. Gun blogging isn’t just about having fun with guns its about knowing your stuff too.
      Though to be fair they all know 200% more than the average gun store employee,but I would like to think that most of us here do too.

      If you guys could get Ian from forgotten weapons as TFB staff you would be pretty close to golden,he is really the only gun guy online who’s word I trust fully when it comes to firearms. I have been studying guns since I first found out they existed and continue to do so.

  • DangerousClown

    I have a nice 1911, and briefly owned a Glock. And I’ll take a CZ over either any day.

    • Cymond

      Every time I start missing (entry level 9mm) 1911 that I traded for a Glock, I remind myself that I can get a double stack SP-01 Suppressor Ready for the cost of an average 9mm 1911.

      Sure, I lust over STI 2011 pistols, but I could expand my collection so much more for $3k.

  • will ford

    From the first day I could try out a glock when they First came out. I went to a SW houston gunshop to try one. Picked it up racked put it back down and BOUGHT a COLT GOV’T And have never like the fit of a glock for me. H&K yes. OH well.

    • Porty1119

      I shot a G21 last week; it shot surprisingly well for me, but was still not comfortable. I strongly prefer 1911s, but will not criticize someone who prefers Glocks. They’re ugly tactical tupperware with a miserable grip angle, sights, and trigger, but they do work.

  • codfilet

    TFB seems to like to leave a clickbait post like this on Fridays to keep the site jumping over the weekend……

  • SpartacusKhan

    Best way to hit a target with a glock is to use a catapult. Seriously, what ISN’T better than a glock?

    • QuadGMoto

      Well, if you’re going to use a catapult a 1911 is better there too. With the extra weight it’s more likely to destroy the target. 😜

  • LazyReader

    A century’s worth of simplicity, versus 5 generations

    • m-dasher

      M1911
      M1911-A1
      M1911-A2
      M1911 MEUSOC

      to call a 1911 “simple” is laughable….especially compared to a glock

  • Wanlace Yates

    Disclosure up front, I have 3 Glocks and Oh-God-don’t-make-me-count 1911s. They both have up and down sides and I know 1911s have their own foibles. But I can add some compelling points for why 1911s are great.

    They can be taken apart down to almost the last piece just using their own parts as tools. Aside from the sights and plunger tube they can be taken all the way down by an owner for repairs or customization. Glocks are pretty good on the simplicity front but still need some specific tools and can be interesting to reassemble if you go after the trigger components.

    They can be tuned to a much higher degree of accuracy. If competition or longer ranged shooting is of interest, the 1911 gets you to a smaller group more readily. Glock shooters might dismiss this but if you value precision you probably want the 1911.

    They have a greater variety of parts and customization options. Glocks are catching up here a lot, but there is still just a better variety of options with 1911s if you really want to adapt the pistol to a particular person or purpose.

  • Iblis

    100+ year handgun design better than a Glock??…….just put the crack pipe down and back away from it. Get some help…

    • Porty1119

      In the one lethal-force situation I’ve been in with shots fired (it was a mountain lion attempting to stalk me, for the record), my 1911A1 served me just fine. With most sidearms, the simple attribute of “is a gun” is all you need. Make sure it’s a safe design and loaded with modern defensive ammunition, and it will serve you well. Personal preference is king there.

      • retfed

        But a Glock 21 would have served you just as well, since it was the .45 ACP that did the trick, right? Or is a .45 out of a 1911 different than a .45 out of a Glock?

        • iksnilol

          I think it’s the part where a projectile was fired hella fast (at least compared to throwing a rock).

          In the same scenario a 38 special snubby would’ a done the same job.

  • screw them both buy a German P226

    • No one

      AKA the most overrated handgun ever made.

  • Don Ward

    Meanwhile, Beretta 92F is content to sit back and let these two decide who is in second place.

    • Realist

      Mel Gibson called, he said he needs his P92 back…

      • Don Ward

        No givesies backsies!

    • Blake

      John McClane agrees.

  • Ark

    The 1911 uses forged parts in the action instead of cast parts like the RAS47.

  • Uniform223

  • jerry young

    The #1 reason, The 1911 made by anyone else is better because it’s not a Glock!

  • Badwolf

    Tough crowd

  • Some Rabbit

    If the 1911 is superior to the Glock (and I agree) just think how many guns are superior to the 1911 (hint: there are plenty).

  • Blake
  • retfed

    Maybe the reason we’ve been victoryless has nothing to do with pistols, which are certainly not decisive in any battle. Consider this: The Dept. of Defense was established in 1947. The last time we won a war was 1945. Coincidence?

  • retfed

    I think you’re missing my point. Manual safeties don’t automatically guarantee greater safety. There are too many other variables in action at the same time.

  • Wm Reich

    Were being Trolled fellas .. But it is all good..

    Glocks … They go Bang , don’t require much maintenance. Mo Bullets Mo Better.. 9mm Mega Death Hyper Velocity Super Expanding Hollow Points make them better at doing their job against unarmored opponents than 9mm or even 45ACP Ball.

    Police kill … I mean “Stop the Threat” of plenty of people with Glocks and 9mm ammo so cant really argue they don’t work.

    That being said.. The Glock never preserved my life.. Never . On the other hand by the Grace of God the 1911 has on a number of occasions. It has been my constant companion here and abroad for around 50 years now (Goodness Gracias I thought it was around 40 but I was mistaken)..

    I know how it (1911) works and there are no surprises. My 40 some year old Colt Like the ones issued to me over the years it is deliberately loose. Because it is not “A precision Work of Art” it goes bang if I do my part without exception. I inspect and replace stuff as needed (you do know with a basic understanding of metallurgy if you wear or break the frame.. a little judicious welding and machining will put things back to rights ..(With the Glock.. do you use JB Weld?)

    I carry OWB in a Yaqui Slide unless in the dirt where I carry it in a 30 year old Jackass Leather Company Thumbreak ( use Saddle Soap on the outside of that stuff some newspaper inside to keep it’s form when not being used.).. I have a nice telephone style Dummy cord attached made in Vietnam (mmmmt)

    In my next life if I find myself a Borne Conspiracy Pent Ultimate SWAT Ninja. Special Feces Delta Operator.. I promise to take a look at that new Glock 120 Megawatt Chemically Actuated Laser Weapon.

    Now as to “Trolling” seems to me at least that “Turn about is fair play”

    • retfed

      Is your Jackass Thumbreak marked “Glenview” or “Chicago”? The company was in Glenview from about 1975 till about 1978, then moved to Chicago, then the owner (Gallagher) moved to Arizona and changed the name to Galco.
      Damn, I’m old.

      • Wm Reich

        Checking… Holster no longer on shelf. Possible victim of the “Tidy Patrol”.

        “Damn, I’m old.”

        ‘OLD’ IS WHEN…. You don’t care where your spouse goes, just as long as you don’t have to go along (and they leave your stuff alone).

  • VF 1777

    Did you have to pay James a royalty fee for using his schitck?

  • scaatylobo

    No sense in a discussion.
    When you have made up your mind,you have proven that you cannot or will not learn.
    I was a anti fan of the Glock and swore I would never own one = now I own [ and carry ] 8.
    Its a tool that does what it was designed to do.
    The 1911’s are great pieces of history and “were” the best for when they were issue.
    I still own and shoot a few 1911’s,but do not carry them as they TFT or FTfire ,none of my Glocks have done so.
    The G-23 that I have carried in harms way,has THOUSANDS of rounds through her.
    NO glitches or FTF of any sort !.
    If you like the 1911,by all means carry one = or 2 if you like.

    • retfed

      I agree.
      Most “1911s are best” arguments can be broken into one or more of three categories:
      1. “I’ve carried a 1911 forever and I’m too lazy to learn anything else.” These are the people who argue “grip angle” and “pointability,” and ignore the fact that you can learn to point anything if you want to. “Muscle memory” is in your brain, not your muscles, and you don’t use your “1911 muscle memory” when you eat a burger or screw in a lightbulb. Same muscles, different “memory.”
      2. “I carry a 1911 because I’m a manly studmuffin alpha male real American, and 9mms and Glocks are for girls, Frenchmen, and metrosexuals.” Moreover, these guys never carry alloy-framed 1911s or Commanders; it has to be a full-size five-inch Government Model with 40 ounces of good old American steel, because only nancy boys carry light pistols. (So who’s buying all the alloy 1911s?)
      3. “The .45 ACP is a lightning bolt that will throw the bad guy over a parked car if you hit him on the fingernail.” Oddly, though, the 9mm is perfectly adequate if you fire it through a 1911. It’s only when you shoot it through an un-American sissy plastic pistol that it becomes an effeminate Europellet. (The jury is still out on a .45 fired from a Glock.)

  • Isaac O. Lees

    We’re hitting levels of clickbait that shouldn’t even be possible! Thank god for adblock.

  • Meowserita

    this is pretty hilarious.

  • Slovko

    While I’d agree that Gaston Glock was not the outward-facing legend that is Mr. John Moses Browning, Mr. Glock did manage to successfully fight off a hitman that was trying to murder him with a hammer. In my opinion, that definitely counts for something.

    • iksnilol

      That’s a crappy endorsement.

      If Glocks are so good. Then why did the creator of the Glock rather use his bare hands than a Glock to defend himself?

  • Steve

    I love my Springfield TRP. But if the zombie apocalypse comes I’m grabbing my Glock 17.

  • Tim

    Since this is a philosophical debate I believe it would be best to define your terms. Lest a Para Ordinance double stack with an extended mag trash your argument. Ultimately the failures of the 1911 will destroy the AR-15. When the AR is brought off military service the custom parts market will destroy its reputation for reliability. Ultimately popularity is the failure of all models of firearm. Sorry Glock guys.

  • civilianaf

    New favorite quote alert, “full of feels and stuff like that”. Sorry James, “Im eating pizza rolls” is #2 now.

  • m-dasher

    TFB has been slowly going down hill….and is essentially turning into Buzzfeed with firearms…..click bait articles, garbage reporting and Op-eds by people who dont know what they are talking about.

    hell, most of the articles recently are just reposted youtube videos.

  • Risky

    A 1911 is ‘better’ than a Glock in the way that a new Cadillac is ‘better’ than and old Ford pickup. The Cadillac might be more pleasant to drive, but the old Ford is going to be a lot more useful and odds are I’m going to have a lot more fun using it.

  • Vizzini

    John Moses Browning decided he could improve on the 1911, so he made the Browning Hi-Power.

  • Mystick

    It’s important that people are shown that the continued relevance of the 1911 is just one of the multitude of factors that demonstrate it’s superiority to all of the lesser, inferior, derivative pistols.

  • BudHall

    The 1911 is a better pistol for what?? Totally irrelevant unless any argument like this is qualified with a “The….is better at being (what)!!”. And, there’s a reason military COs wouldn’t let their troops carry a round in the chamber. Yea, spare us the “training” retort; training is what it is.

  • Kendall Wetzel

    The counting tells it all. This new generation, uneducated. Forget the science? Glad you were not in charge of NASA. Never would have made it off the planet. The only thing I see better is if you are using it to beat someone to death, kind of like me listening to this video.

  • Michael Fallon

    I really perfer videos that help the gun learning community, rather than a sarcastic video aimed at putting down one pistol platform over another. I own a Glock 19 gen 4, and two 1911s. Both are great firearms, invented by two great firearms inventors, Gaston Glock, and John Moses Browning. People have different needs, preferences, and tastes. One of them has been around for one hundred and six years, which is incredible. The other, turned the firearms industry on its head, with the introduction of polymer framed pistols thirty-five years ago, and has become one the most popular guns on the planet, just like the 1911 has been for years also. Please don’t post any more of these non productive videos. Thank you.

  • 2War Abn Vet

    That’s okay; you don’t need eight reasons anyway. It’s just something you intrinsically know.

  • stu gotz

    Glock or 1911? Flip a coin. Neither is a GTW gun. Buy a Canik and lots of ammo with all the money you’ll save.

  • Bad Penguin

    Stupid video. Pistols are like whiskey, neckties and women. Every man has his own preference. I like tall thin woman my little brother absolutely LOVES HUGE (300lbs and above) women. 1911s were developed in a tile of ball ammo and a bigger bullet just made a bigger hole in people. Most people compare modern 9mm hollow points to old military .45 ball ammo but modern .45 ammo out performs 9mm. 9mm has a bad habit of over penetrating while .45 dumps its energy into the target. blah blah blah.
    Bottom line is in real life perps don’t stand still and cooperate so use whatever pistol that you can actually shoot well with. More ammo doesn’t mean jack if you can’t hit anything, it just gives you more ammo to waste.

    BTW at least with a 1911 you can still beat someone to death with it when you run out of ammo:-)

  • Karl

    Does anybody remember satire?
    When did having some fun become a problem for some of you guys?

  • Mikial

    What is it with people who like 1911s and are terrified of Glocks? They are both great guns, but the 1911 crowd seems to have this inferiority complex that causes them to coin anyone who likes Glocks as a “Glock Fanboy” and to post all sorts of derogatory and often rude comments and articles denigrating Glocks. Deal with it, folks, there are more handguns on the face of the Earth than 1911s. I love my 1911, but I also love my Glock. I don’t get the issue here.

  • Hyok Kim

    Obviously a clickbait attempt at humor. . I only agree with #2. He forgot to mention hammer fired reliability, far more important for civilian SD than for military with their primary weapons and back up buddies.

  • Dick Van Dyke—–they had a story on the news yesterday about him.

  • Richard Lutz

    Seems some 1911 fanboys are in a state of denial about which is the better pistol. If you want a pistol with a safety catch get a S&W M&P, not a 1911.

  • Craig

    I’m a 1911 guy but this is hilarious. In reality, I have no problem with a 9 verses a human threat but I’m a mountain biker. I don’t trust 9 vs mountain lions and I’m not going to get to empty a mag into a cat. I have also seen where a polymer gun break in two.The Maah Daah Hey is 150 miles and out in the middle of no where.

  • bthomas

    Have been using 1911’s since 1979. Have been using Glocks since 1990. Both are fine designs. The 1911 suffers from a plethora of manufacturers some of whom are excellent and some of whom are not so good. Some replacement parts are less than good. The Glock is simply in every respect outstanding. For a service pistol is is absolute perfection. That is beyond argument except by those driven by emotion. Across the world Glock is the standard to which every other manufacturer aspires. For target shooting, etc., there are better choices. For small game hunting, a .22LR is better. For semi-automatic service use, concealed carry, etc., the Glock is without equal.

  • E Wolfe

    I thought that you might have something interesting to say, but you immediately segued into a Glock promo. I’m sure that your Glock is wonderful, however, I own a .45 Colt New Agent, an exceptional concealment piece and if you’re a halfway decent combat shooter, accurate out to 25 yards. I wouldn’t mind owning your weapon, I’m a fan of high quality weapons. But, I’d be willing to bet, that from the holster, I could empty a mag into the torso’s magic triangle or the T-Box faster than you could from seven yards, even with all that fancy stuff hanging on your piece. Another poster tagged this article’s headline accurately–click-bait!

    You wasted my time, reeling me in, but I couldn’t resist spending more time, well spent, telling you-SHAME ON YOU!

  • Archie Montgomery

    Instead of your reason #1, how about the Government Model and versions, variants, copies, and rip-offs have been around for one hundred, six years now. It still works and it is still the standard for semi-automatic pistols.

    Calculating the ‘total energy’ of the fifteen rounds of 9×19 versus the eight rounds of .45 ACP? That ONLY applies if one can shoot fast enough to ‘simultaneously’ make all the hits from either pistol. If one cannot do that, one must consider an individual shot against an individual shot.

    Reason # 7 is on the right track, but muddled. J. M. Browning – at the behest of the U. S. Army – designed a handgun for fighting. At the time, the U. S. Cavalry was still mounted and the troopers of the Calvary were armed with handgun and sabre for normal duty. (They had carbines for special occasions) The handgun to be adopted was intended to be an adequate tool for the job, not a security blanket for crew served weapon teams and rear echelon types.

    Mr. Glock is a very talented designer and efficiency sort. The Government Model was designed as a primary fighting (for one’s life) arm; the Glock was designed as a rather inexpensive and easy to produce ‘product’.

    Reason # 8 should be worded as “…the Government Model has a grip more ergonomically designed for shooting in the heat of things. The Glock has a grip shape which seems as wide as it is long. Sort of like a 2×2 furring strip.”

    Yes, the Government Model has a good sized grip in circumference. However, if one’s hand is too small for a Government Model, the hand is way too small for a Glock.

    Last, and not mentioned… The Government Model has been lengthened, shortened, optically sighted, rounded, chambered in just about every handgun cartridge extant and it STILL WORKS. When some enterprising tinkerer trims the barrel and slide of a Glock 17 down to three inches, tell me about it.

    And. One can change the grips to something more decorous.