Charlie W. posted some photos of an uncommon squib that he experienced while shooting his Sig P226. He was shooting Maxx Tech factory 9mm ammo.

As you can see from the photo above and the photo below, the bullet almost made it out of the barrel.

Have any of our readers experienced a similar squib load where the bullet pokes out of the muzzle?





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  • James Earl Jones

    I think that’s actually a 229. Too short to be a 226.

    • Brick

      I think the AJU designation is for a 229 as well.

    • DrewR55

      Yeah, P229 with the Legacy slide and half-height slide serrations.

      I’ve never heard of that brand of ammunition. Pretty cheap stuff?

      • Dirt cheap plinking ammo. And you get all the QC you paid for, too!

    • Jonnybees

      A “Critical eye” and another Sig aficionado!!!

  • Dan

    Just the tip

    • plumber576

      …for just a minute, just to see how it feels.

  • Choogisaurus Rex

    I had an old winchester .22 that had about a milimeter left before it would leave the barrel.

  • Joe

    Oh man, Maxxtech. Never again…

  • Anonymoose
  • Squibly

    I actually saw and took a picture of a squib like that once upon a time… now I want to see if I can find it.

  • User

    Maybe the Primer had a problem. Or something went wrong while filling in the propellant, so the charge is way to low, and some of the gas slipped by.

    • Swarf

      So… a squib.

      • Klaus Von Schmitto

        No he’s describing that other thing.

        • Major Tom

          A hangfire?

          • Klaus Von Schmitto

            No a squib.

    • Gary Kirk

      It was definitely the primer having a problem.. Not enough powder to fire.. Which equates, a squib load..

  • TheNotoriousIUD

    A co-worker brought this abortion in the other day for me to take a look at. Cheap .45/unknown ammo. Barrel had expanded too much to remove the slide. Or I assume that was the reason.
    Garbage. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/424d6e2eb9b13a79ffe1ffc09a0e252843326446d84ddf5d6923653495ceef1a.jpg

    • Christian Hedegaard-Schou

      If the barrel bulged, then there’s probably TWO squibs in there.

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        Nothing would surprise me

      • Ain’t no “probably” about it…

    • Gary Kirk

      You work with some “extra special” individuals.. Do you not?

  • Giolli Joker

    Do a Brandon reload by firing a blank behind it.

  • Mr. Katt

    Ummm . . . well, you almost hit the target with the bullet that almost left the barrel. Too many almosts . . .

  • Jimmy Lawrence
  • Cal S.

    “Clearing a squib load” [Excerpt from Sig operator’s manual]:
    1) Remove magazine and rack slide
    2) Load one round in chamber
    3) Drop repeatedly to force round loose from barrel
    4) Replace handgun with a Glock

    • Christian Hedegaard-Schou

      Glocks don’t get squibs? Tell me how that’s possible?

      • Klaus Von Schmitto

        Just by putting bad bullets into the Glock somehow makes them better one would presume.
        The Glock fandom is weird. It’s a good gun, but damn.

        • Cal S.

          See above…

        • Peter Nissen

          I think it’s a cult thing….

        • Old Tofu

          humor is like food . . . not everyone gets it

      • Cal S.

        “It’s a joke, son, a joke!”

      • BillyOblivion

        2 and 3 were the joke.

        • Gary Kirk

          I figured #3 was a joke about the P320..

      • Some Rabbit

        Because they don’t call them squibs, they call them ‘perfection plugs’.

    • john huscio

      Its what the NJSP did….

  • tony

    To those that have experienced this, how hard is it to pound out that stuck bullet?

    • Christian Hedegaard-Schou

      Wooden dowel down barrel, tap with small/light hammer. Comes right out. No biggy.

    • Nicholas C

      I had an out of spec handload. OAL was a little too long and the bullet got stuck on the lands. But the bolt wouldnt close. I tried extracting the round and had to mortar my 9mm AR pistol. Bullet was stuck, My friend used a wooden dowel and a mallet. It took a while beating on it to get the stuck round to come out. Yes he hammered it towards the chamber and it still took a while.

  • El Duderino
    • iksnilol

      Kinda your fault with that super long barrel tho.

      • Peter Nissen

        Noooo!

      • John Yossarian

        Lol!

  • JT303

    When airguns have this issue, it’s less of a problem for all involved, but an inexperienced shooter will often make up for it by firing off more pellets, eventually building up a solid mass of lead obstructing the bore. I did hear of one of our cadets managing to get eight pellets stuck in one of our rifles, which was sent back to the factory to have a new barrel fitted.

    The other case was quite recent. I was breaking down an airgun for spares; it had come into the shop but was in too poor a condition to be sold. I took the barrel off to be greeted by a mashed lead pellet. I grabbed a cleaning rod thinking I’d be able to tap it out. Nope. The rod got stuck partway down the bore, and when it was finally extracted, a crushed pellet was on the end. Measurements revealed 6 inches worth of compacted lead was lodged in the bore, and after removing 14 pellets, with plenty more stuck in the barrel, I gave up.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/41e94be6d5940c7c2a563458717c0f5640819e8140be3462ac807ca5ea006b97.jpg

    • Swarf

      “Wow, why aren’t my shots even getting on paper?! Better jack the sights around and shoot another group.”

      • JT303

        I suspect that’s what happens. Cadets are an unusual breed, after all. The L85 has been taken all over the world by British soldiers, and cadets can still manage to break it in a grassy field.

    • Old Vet

      Five gallon bucket, place barrel in muzzle down, pour in liquid mercury, let set…..will dissolve the lead over time.

      • Lord Layton

        Is there solid mercury?

        • Old Vet

          You can buy powdered mercury, so I didn’t want to confuse anyone.

          • Lord Layton

            As in ‘fomated Mercury’? One day I had powdered water but I couldn’t find anything to mix it with. lol

          • CountryBoy

            It’s easy. All you add is water!

          • CountryBoy

            Elemental mercury at room temp is liquid. If you’re buying it in a powder it isn’t pure mercury, but an oxide, sulfate or similar, and not at all usable for what you’re trying to do without extracting the mercury first. It is essentially an ore, as mined.

        • CountryBoy

          Sure. Well beyond commuting distance though. 😉

        • CountryBoy

          Not on Earth unless refrigerated down to -38 degrees F. Not likely to be found in your average refrigerator.

      • The Heretic

        If you can find mercury – maybe.

      • CountryBoy

        This was a copper-jacketed bullet, so the lead was encased rather than exposed.

        • Old Vet

          Once the lead is dissolved, the jacket will collapse or push out easily with a brass or wood rod.

          • CountryBoy

            That’s going to take a long, long time, since the lead isn’t exposed at all; it is encased completely by copper, and mercury will not dissolve or affect copper. You’re assuming the base of the bullet is exposed lead, but with much of the ammo now it is completely encased, partly because of environmental concerns.

          • Old Vet

            At no time did I say it was fast or easy. You can poke a small hole in the base, but since you are so negative I wouldn’t want to rain on your parade today.

          • CountryBoy

            Realism counts; inaccuracy sucks. The idea is novel, but extremely impractical and unsafe.

            Forget the highly toxic mercury, whose vapors are absorbed through skin; few people have it, it’s hard to come by legally, and you can accomplish the same thing in a few seconds by tapping a wooden dowel on the bullet from behind to push the thing out the rest of the way.

            Looking for solutions that are overly complicated when the problem is very simple and has already been solved may be engaging, but not very practical.

            Besides, how long to you really want to wait to use your pistol again? If you’re now going to “poke a hole in the case”, why not simply knock the squib all the way out?

          • Old Vet

            Perhaps I should have said it my idea was for a rifle bullet stuck about half way down the barrel as was the case with my cousin. He used this method. As to your other points, blow it out your ass. Some people are just too f*cking smart to see anything but the forest and not the trees. I will yield to your superior intellect. I know it is hazardous, as does everyone on this board. I would only offer this suggestion to those who have no alternatives. Yes, it is easy to take out the bullet pictured, any idiot could see and do that, even you!! Have really nice day, “countryboy”, we love you on here.

          • CountryBoy

            Really? Perhaps rather than saying ” Some people are just too f*cking smart to see anything but the forest and not the trees. “, you should have said “Some people just make up things out of their rear end” about your own posts, as there is no “powdered mercury”, and removing a squib with a dowel is still way better than stopping, acquiring mercury and going through the rest of the ridiculous things you outlined that won’t work anyway.

            You’re way off, the chemistry you thought you’d explain isn’t even close. “Powdered mercury” isn’t mercury, but a compound that DOESN’T have the properties of liquid mercury, and your entire process here is so full of BS that it is going to do nothing but harm the chap who attempts to do this without realizing you knew absolutely nothing about this. As far as your cousin, that’s another blowhole story you’ve concocted, or your cousin is equally ill-suited for rationally coming up with a solution to a very simple problem.

            I hate to blast another on here, but this “solution” was so outlandish and unworkable from the start it was clear you’d never done this and simply imagined something to say. Your walking back of your posts – “well, poke a hole in the case”, “you can buy powdered mercury”, “my cousin’s bullet was halfway down”, etc. – that’s just more BS.

            Look, if you’re going to suggest something here, it should be proven, not posted simply to see your name in lights. What you suggested can be very harmful to people

            Other than that, have a nice weekend.

          • Old Vet

            Really, now you call me a liar…..f*ck you and the donkey you rode in on, ass-wipe, and now you have taken it beyond normal polite reply’s. Perhaps I can call my cousin in the nursing home and let him tell you how long it took, huh, or will you call him a liar also?? As far as “my name in lights”, you have got to be kidding. A website posting is name in lights, where are you from, Hicksville?? I don’t need any acknowledgement from people who are so denigrating as you appear to be. Do you kick your dog/cat a lot?

          • CountryBoy

            Yes, rather than prove me wrong, you insult me. You’re spewing untruths and you know it. Your cousin is in a nursing home now too; what next?

            It is frustrating enough that you spew lies and dangerous “solutions”, but your refusal to acknowledge that you’ve never done it – now it is your “cousin” who did this, and the bullet was halfway down the barrel! – indicates this story is pure fabrication.

            Go on, keep digging that hole, as others here see that what you’ve said is baloney, and have also asked about your use of mercury, etc. You are so far off-base you’re AWOL.

      • Dante Poe

        I used to play with mercury every day as a kid… kept it in a 35mm film canister… would roll it around in my hands and say “oooo cool etc” hopefully didn’t get much harm out of it.

        • Old Vet

          We used to polish our silver coins with it. Like you, I wonder if I did lasting damage to any organs??

  • QuadGMoto

    Hickok45 did a video on squibs recently. To achieve the same basic result (on purpose!) he had to load a round that didn’t contain any powder. The only propellant was the primer.

    • ostiariusalpha

      About 99% of squibs are a primered case that the loader forgot to check if any powder was inside before seating a bullet in it.

    • CountryBoy

      That’s what the Aguila “quiet” load is – .22lr over nothing but primer. I’ve fired them in an enclosed basement, and they’re like firing an airgun.

  • Axel2485

    Don’t have a photo handy, but I had it happen to me in a S&W 442 due to a bad handload.

  • Edeco

    *notices squib*

  • Monies

    Maxxtech uses nonstandard spec cases. Look inside one and you will see a shelf to reduce case capacity. At least their brass ammo does anyway. I was unlucky enough to buy some “once fired” brass that had some mixed in, they all went in the garbage. Privi Partizan seems to be the only safe ammo from the former Yugoslavia.

    • Typical White Person

      Their 308 PPU brass has failed me miserably and now goes in the beer fund scrap box.

      Chamber checks but won’t extract even in a bolt gun?!?

      Buh bye

      Their ammo is decent otherwise.

  • john huscio

    Just cant beat that exeter/cohen SIG quality…..

  • Sgt. Stedenko

    Looks like me crowning after White Castles

    • uisconfruzed

      Turtle head?

      • gregge

        Prairie dogging

  • B-Sabre

    Is that a squib, or are you just glad to see me?

  • Gary Kirk

    Looks like it’s just excited to see us.. Oh wait, that’s why my dog looks like that..

  • JD

    Garbage ammo. Garbage results.

  • Kivaari

    I had a W-W .380 Silver Tip just pop out of the barrel on a SIG P230. The round made it through the quality controls because the case was full of brass polishing compound. Just enough so the automated scale accepted it as a loaded round. The bullet bounced off the target at about 10 yards.

  • Jeremy

    I had a customer a few years ago do this with a 44mag super Blackhawk. First bullet didn’t leave the barrel. 2nd bullet pushed #1 to the muzzle and #3 split the barrel pushing #1 to look like the barrel above. Running an indoor range you see a lot of things like this with both “factory” and reloaded ammo. Specifically with the ammo above I see a lot of stove pipes and extraction issues.

  • Peter Nissen

    Nice! Get another barrel and keep this one as the one the didn’t “get” youi!

  • William Johnson

    While policing up brass during a course @ Gunsite, we found 2 9mm slugs, one embedded behind the other on the ground. The best estimate was a squib load stuck in the barrel and the 2nd round pushed both out.

  • tiger

    Sigh…….. You get what pay for. Cheap SOB. Maxx Tech? Who the hell is that? Too cheap to buy Remington, Winchester,CCI, Hornady, Federal? Well, there you go. And enough with this steel case crap! Use Brass or Blazers.

  • Preston Bhatti

    *P229

  • Old Vet

    I had one lodge about one bullet deep in my old Smith 10 when we were qualifying at the range one day. We shot department reloads made by the range officer on an older Dillon machine. Lot’s of squibs in those days. It was dangerous as hell when we ran the 2 shot, fast draw at 7 yards. Luckily I recognized the failure and didn’t squeeze off the second shot. One of our older officers had been so lucky a few years earlier and lost a finger from a blown cylinder. Don’t remember what became of him though.

  • Typical White Person

    I had the same thing in a .38 5″ barrel.
    Dillion 550 was having strange issues dropping powder (or not or 1/2 drops).

    What a PITA to solve and 500 rounds were questionable as a result.

  • DJ9r

    Sooooo close…

  • Mikial

    Mistake number one . . . using MaxxTech ammo, the worst ammo made on the face of the Earth. If anything can go wrong with ammo in general, it WILL go wrong with MaxxTech. Failures to fire and FTE are the most common, along with stuck cases. I bought 1000 rounds of 9mm from a well known, unnamed on-line dealer once. In the first 30 rounds i had to pound stuck cases out of the chamber of three different guns 7 times. I tried the ammo in three guns to see if it was maybe just not compatible in a particular model, but it didn’t work in anything. Needless to say, I dumped the remaining 970 rounds and considered myself lucky I didn’t damage myself or any of my guns.

  • Justin Bailey

    Wouldn’t have happened with a glock.

    /ducks

  • raz-0

    Running USPSA matches and such, I have seen a couple of these over the last 15 years or so. They aren’t common, but they happen.

    I’d argue that you probably stand a better chance seeing them at steel matches given that the sport tends towards mouse fart loads, rules or not.

  • Squirreltakular

    I once took a customer’s revolver that he couldn’t open the cylinder on. I poked and prodded and dicked around with it for a good 20 minutes before I realized there was a .38 round about 4/5 the way in the barrel and the rest in the cylinder. That was fun getting fixed.

  • Squirreltakular

    Well, I just got 1k rounds of 77gr OTM 5.56 from them. Hope I get better results.