Larry Vicker’s was sent some photos of the HK433 by a German fan. The HK433 is H&K’s new rifle. It is interesting that they are going with Keymod but the rest of the gun reminds me of the FN SCAR,  the Beretta ARX 100 and the Remington ACR. Behind the magwell I see what looks like a bolt catch/release similar to the ACR. Beneath that it looks like H&K went with a lever style mag release.

To check out the rest of the photos click here to go to Larry Vicker’s Facebook post.


  • RSG

    Not gonna lie, that’s a handsome rifle. Over/under $3000

    • TheNotoriousIUD

      Take a wild guess.
      Go ahead.

      • Michael

        Under. It’s whole schtick is to be cheaper than the 416.
        You just have to wait ten years before it’s available to the public.

        • EdgyTrumpet

          HAHA YOU FOOL

        • Paul Joly

          Yes, this isn’t a g36, in term of prices.

          I don’t know if they don’t care, but this rifle could have been made at a lower cost, easily.
          Just an example ; they must have started their upper receiver with an aluminum extrusion. It seems to be low grade material as they added certainly steel guide rails for the bolt assembly, so it must be a 6 series which isn’t great for machining. But they machined most of the exterior, with a really good surface finish which require you to have a closed profile/tube => more machining, more wasted material => more cost.
          They also added a cutout for the lower receiver to go higher in the selector area maybe because you had to move your rifle to see the full auto selector marking, in a shooter perceptive. This cost a lot of money for what it is.

          • Corey

            Yeah but it’s HK not Jeltec

    • ostiariusalpha

      It would’ve been 9% more badass with M-Lok slots.

    • Mmmtacos

      The AR looks good to me because it’s purely a “form follows function” rifle. This looks like it’s got all these angles and cuts that somewhat follow that but are made for what H&K might call “aesthetic”

      I mean it’s not too bad, it may grow on me, but if we’re rating a rifle based on looks I would definitely put the G36, the ACR, the SCAR higher than this guy.

      • pun&gun

        Definitely subject to personal taste, then, I guess. I’d say the stock M16, stock M4, G36, and SCAR are some of the ugliest rifles ever made. ACR’s pretty slick looking, though, and this 433 seems more reminiscent of that in my eyes.

    • Frank

      Probably a lot less. Since this was developed for the German army as a cheaper alternative to the 416.

    • HK: Because you suck, and we hate you.

      • El Mac

        And what does this do that the AR doesn’t? Ah, that’s right…rip you off. HnK, more bullshytery for the fan boys of overpriced and under supported junk. “Hey HK, 2010 called and they want their Keymod junk back.”

    • MikhielK

      I just see this as them copying little bits and pieces of different guns that don’t blend well together. Through the years, H&K has produced some of the best functioning, and aesthetically pleasing weapons. I have to wonder where they lost that focus.

  • Martin M

    That isn’t a lever mag release, as you can see the AR-pattern mag release bar on the LH view. The RH view has a finger over it. What could it be? A second mag release?

  • CJS

    Didn’t TFB already post that you can have two versions of the lower? One with a paddle mag release and the other with push button release…
    Having said that… Any excuse to show more pic’s 🙂

  • PK

    That’s an interesting looking rifle that I’ll never see in person inside the USA. Yawn.

  • One of the most coolest looking rifles to be released in a long time.

  • Evan

    Is it just me, or is that magazine more heavily curved than a standard AR mag?

    • Kinetics

      It’s likely the H&K mag that was developed/used in the 416, it does have a heavier curvature than standard STANAG type magazines.

      • Evan

        That was my first thought, but I don’t think so. I have some of those mags, we used them in the Marine Corps (they’re heavy but they’re good mags) and I think if it is them, they’re inserted at an odd angle.

        • Samuel Millwright

          It could be that the magwell is canted, one of the early ar10’s had this feature… I think it was to keep the follower from nose diving or etc too, which considering hk’s habitually overgassed guns and resulting ass hauling bcg’s of doom and receiver destruction….

          That actually makes sense since it would be one way to “cheat” reliability with worn mags, hot guns, and high bcg velocities outrunning mags. (everybody hates bolt over base malfs)

    • FarmerB

      It’s that the curvature starts earlier – in the magwell. This is unlike the AR which has a straight magwell, and therefore the magazines must have straight tops. Some rifles like the HK243 (and the SIG 553) have Stanag compatible magazine inserts (or lowers) which can accept the straight mags.

  • Gun Fu Guru

    I bet it doesn’t accept STANAG magazines.

    • Michael

      I bet you’re a dumbass.

    • Congo Rick

      It is literally pictured with an HK STANAG Mag in this very article you just read. I don’t often go around insulting intelligence like the previous gentlemen, but I can totally see where he’s coming from.

      • Gun Fu Guru

        HK doesn’t have a history of using STANAGs in their first iteration of guns. Even the HK416 didn’t use one when it came out.

  • Jim Slade
  • BattleshipGrey

    At least the ARX has an option to switch sides on ejection, and Beretta came out with that like 5 or more years ago. If we’re going to break away from the AR platform, could we at least evolve from it?

    • ostiariusalpha

      The ARX ejection switch is relatively easy to use, but mechanically complicated. The FB Radom MSBS system is nearly as easy to use and considerably simpler to manufacture; you just remove the pivot pin and flip the bolt to change the ejection side.

      • BattleshipGrey

        I like the MSBS as well. No experience with either one, but Germans don’t seem to mind making complicated designs, HK charges for it either way.

    • pun&gun

      The fully ambidextrous dominant-hand-accessible controls and stock-friendly charging handle layout are evolutions, I’d say.

    • It has a conventional stock layout, and a brass deflector that looks quite effective.

      I mean, it’s kind of surprising HK didn’t go all Teutonic Overengineering and decide to complicate the ejection system with a bunch of extra parts to malfunction, but why would they need to, when the rifle already throws brass away from shooters, regardless of whether they are left or right handed?

    • jono102

      The ARX’s ability to change between left and right hand eject at the push of a button was never a user driven requirement given its conventional layout, In the end just an interesting feature Beretta added. As mentioned they also succeeded in adding a lot more complexity to it for what gain? If it was such an important feature, why was it dropped for the 7.62 ARX200?
      If it wasn’t for their Bullpup configuration of the MSBS, Radom wouldn’t have needed or probably bothered with their rotatable bolt in the first place for their conventional configuration unless asked to.

  • Kyle Cowart

    If HK was smart, they’d sell a ACR stock adapter straight out of the box (if they sell it in the US) because someone is going to make and sell it

  • JohnnyWhogivesaFu

    Anyone else get excited after remembering that article TFB had about HK building a plant here?

  • THaleyhandcream

    Because HK hates us, that mounting system is actually their proprietary “HKey” System that is not compatible with Keymod… or just about anything for that matter.

    • Twilight sparkle

      I’ve read that it is compatible with keymod but your keymod accessories just end up backwards

      • THaleyhandcream

        Unfortunately, that is not the case, the spacing is a bit larger and won’t accommodate either spacing between mounting screws or the little lip the keeps the keymod accessories in place.

        • jcitizen

          Isn’t keymod still under a patent? Wouldn’t that be a patent violation? Maybe they only got a US pat.

          • THaleyhandcream

            Keymod and M-Lok are both open source. If they were under patent, I can’t imagine H-Key wouldn’t be some sort of patent or trade dress infringement. And if they were and the company that wants to charge upwards of 2 grand for a neutered MP5K with no barrel thread didn’t pay 5c per rifle to license the standard… well I guess it wouldn’t be an HK if they did. lol

    • pun&gun

      If it’s ever released in the US someone will create a replacement handguard with MLok slots that also weighs less.

      • jackalope

        It will need the Geissele treatment.

    • Please tell me you’re joking…

  • Vitor Roma

    Off Topic

    Review of the Desert Tech MDR, including accuracy tests watch?v=j81P1ucjsXs

    Also shows the insides of the gun quite well, especially the ejection.

  • Cosmoline ‘n’ Coke

    It’s Vickers not Vicker’s. Goddamnit I hate misspelling and incorrect punctuation. If you’re going to publish, proofread your story. That includes headlines. Thanks in advance.

    • Alex A.

      Damn right these guy’s need to get there spelling and punctuation squared away. you don’t see ME making those mistake’s.

    • Larrys name BELONGS to HIM, and since it is his name, Vicker’s is the correct punctuation. If he sold his name recently, then Vickers would work, UNLESS he sold it to someone else who now owns it, in which case Vickers’s’ is the new correct way choice.

      • pun&gun

        “Vicker’s” would mean it belongs to a guy named Vicker. Vickers’ or Vickers’s are the correct forms.

        • Larry Vicker is Mr. Vickers son, who is also the rightful owner of the Vicker’s brand family name trademark though…

    • Missed a comma after “Goddamnit”… 😉

  • John John Slade

    If i’m not mistake it was for G36 replacement in future.

    • tazman66gt

      Or a G36 with a different skin…and perhaps the same issues.

      • Samuel Millwright

        No that’s the hk 243 i think it is which is g36 improved, and from the patent drawings and etc it won’t have the issues g36 had

        • FarmerB

          The 243 is basically a civilian G36. This is an improved rifle with elements of G36 and AR/416, which, as you said, should avoid the alleged issues with the G36. They seem to be still working on the final design with the goal of entering it as a competitor for the Bundeswehr G36 replacement.

          • Samuel Millwright

            The hk433 is their service rifle entry afaik, but maybe they are trying to get 2 entries ready.

          • FarmerB

            Sorry, you misinterpreted my sloppy writing. I meant this:
            The 243 is basically a civilian G36. This (meaning the HK433) is an improved rifle with elements of G36 and AR/416…

          • Samuel Millwright

            Thanks for clarifying

      • John John Slade

        H&K win the lawsuit but Germany Government still want to replace it.

    • CaptainObvious

      woha, really….?

      • John John Slade

        Yup. However i forgot where the heck i put that site. I think it was from here or janes.

  • Brett baker

    Why have Belgian, when you can have German?tm (newHK marketing slogan-since we’ll call it HK’s SCAR)

  • shooter2009


  • jackalope

    Get rid of the Keymod.

  • spacedredd

    Meh!!! I have my US made Robinson Arms XCR-L. They can be purchased for about $1700-$2100. This H&K 433 will be unobtainium and over priced… Oh and You Suck and We Hate You!!!!

  • Malthrak

    While it certainly looks cool and I look forward to seeing more about it, the return to a G3 style charging handle/location is puzzling, as that was among the least liked features of that rifle, even setting aside the stiffness issues.

    • pun&gun

      That charging handle looks pretty different to me. The G36’s was on top of the weapon and it reciprocated, necessitating that odd rail over the top. The one’s contained inside the handguard with levers that protrude to the side, and I believe it’s non-reciprocating.

  • Christian Hedegaard-Schou

    The stock looks like the little baby hand from Deadpool.

  • Sandydog

    It has a slappy-thing charging handle, it has a paddle-thing magazine release, and it has a colored ‘no bullets/one bullet/a BUNCH of bullets’ marking by the safety lever.
    In other words, it has everything. This is my rifle; There are no other rifles like it. This one is mine. And I do not care that I suck, and that H&K hates me.

  • pun&gun

    Not bad overall, but I hate the top rib it shares with the G36. Both would be attractive rifles with a different charging handle design.

  • MichaelZWilliamson

    So, they’re still making overpriced mods of the AR18?

  • Billy Vegas

    Chances of their being a semi-auto civilian version 0%

  • Anthony “stalker6recon”

    When I was in the Army, this was still being considered. I was able to play with one, and it was very nice. One of the parts I like most, is that is was built on the AR form, same break down points, and the bolt group was much smoother, very easy to clean, same goes for the star chamber. It was a very fluid weapon. It also had the IR built in, which was VERY NICE!

  • Hank Seiter

    So what advantages does this SCAR Version 5 have over the standard AR-15 build? Certainly not pricing I bet.

    It is “cool”, but is it really cooler than the SCAR (which I bought used, like new for $2100 two years ago), CZ Bren 805, ACR, FN FS2000, AR-180, T-91 and an XM-8 clone which are already in my personal collection?

    Unless it’s under $1500 I don’t think I’m going to be too interested since I’ve already paid dearly for “cool” … and yes, they are all definitely cool, reliable and fun to shoot.

    • n0truscotsman

      None IMO.

      They’re certainly not lighter, more reliable, cheaper, or more versatile than a AR.

  • Hank Seiter

    BTW, that’s suppose to be “to go to Larry Vickers’ Facebook post.” I’m only writing this because of other grammar/spelling Nazis who have already posted on this thread.

  • Greg Kelemen

    Isssss nayyyyce…

  • Kerry

    Too much going on by the trigger for my clumsy fingers. Enough to be a deal breaker in my humble opinion.

  • 41kin
    • n0truscotsman

      Oh of course! HK is good for making shtuff proprietary. Dumb.

      They couldve went MLOK and made the entire MLOK accessory line available for their rifle.

  • Lance Shoemaker

    The behind the magwell bolt release first appeared on the Robinson XCR. Remington couldn’t come up with an original idea if it bit them on the butt!

  • Richard Lutz

    The HK123 in 7.62x39mm would be worth considering. A 5.56x45mm rifle is not desirable as it suffers too much from short barrels, while steel core 7.62mm bullets are vastly superior to any 5.56mm bullets which are prone to tumbling and fragmentation. SBRs with sound suppressors are the future.

    • El Mac


    • jackalope

      I would dig the hell out of having one of those!

  • Emre Korkmaz

    that´s not keymod, it´s Hkey accessories are not interchangeable

    • jackalope

      And that is a stupid move. Nobody will want a proprietary accessory system. M-Lok that thing!

  • Rusty Shackleford

    I’m curious if H&K made a proprietary keymod…
    Also, one can only hope this rifle isn’t over 3k…