Was the P320 Hammer Test Scientific? No. Did It Illustrate An Issue? Yes.

There have been many comments left on our P320 hammer test video that dispute the validity of the test I performed with a hammer. I hate to tell you guys, but that was never supposed to be a scientific test. The reality of the matter is that I am flat out not set up for lab quality testing for failures with firearms, nor do I want to be.

I have seen all of your comments but have been on the road and unable to spend the time fielding them as I would like to have. 

So why did I perform the test in the first place and why did I show you guys? Since the first news of the P320 drop safety failure hit the internet, I started having an extended conversation with a friend of mine who is well known for his aftermarket support of the P320. He and I spent some time spitballing what might be going on with the gun. As a result of those conversations, I shot the slow motion footage on my iPhone that made its way into the video.

Did I look at the footage frame by frame before shooting the video? Nope. I shot something quickly a few hours before I was due to be at the airport and on my way to Rockcastle Shooting Center in Kentucky. I probably got a bunch of things wrong, in fact I know I got some of it wrong.

For example, the trigger only traveled 1/8″ rearward when the back of the pistol was struck and allowed the striker safety to be disengaged. We still aren’t sure what is going on with the sear allowing the striker to be released, but at this point, it doesn’t really matter. All we can do now is wait for Sig to get the upgraded pistols out to shooters and see if they fail in the same manner as we have seen the P320 do so before.

You can watch the video above if you would like to see what video is being referenced.

 



Patrick R

Patrick is a Senior Writer for The Firearm Blog and TFBTV Host. He is a verified gun nerd. With a lifelong passion for shooting, he has a love for all types of firearms, especially overly modified plastic handguns, precision rifles, and AR based things. You can follow Patrick on Instagram @tfbpatrick, Facebook, or contact him by email at TFBpatrick@gmail.com.

The above post is my opinion and does not reflect the views of any company or organization.


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  • Joshua Graham

    In before whining about another P320 article. Keep ’em coming.

    • JumpIf NotZero

      They’re way over playing it.

      • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

        Easy to make statements like that when you haven’t seen all the information. Some things can’t be published without supporting documentation that we will never get.

        Personally, I am done covering ong it unless there is a large development that I can’t ignore. I have plenty of other gun thing to mess with.

        • Christopher Nesbitt

          BTW, Patrick, this is a good thing to discuss. How many times have you dropped a loaded ad chambered firearm? Once, Ten times? This is a seriously dangerous set of possibilities.

          I see no problem continuing the discussion. Thank you for your “unscientific” video.

          • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

            Personally? At least a dozen. Keep in mind I handle firearms, both loaded and empty, far more often than most people. I also have been accused of having feet for hands at times.

          • Nicks87

            If people knew the amount of military (from all branches) and police officers I’ve seen fumble pistols at the clearing barrel, armory window, on the range and when drawing/holstering they would probably take this issue more seriously. Especially when our nations armed forces are going to be receiving a version of this gun that may or may not be fixed.

          • steveday72

            Whacking the snot out of something with a hammer exerts far more force on an object than if the object was dropped.

            To validate my “whacking the snot” statement, watch the video and how the nylon hammer head is breaking. At least one large chunk goes flying off. The “tester”, who I like to refer to as “hammer monkey”, even pulls off smaller broken pieces that are hanging on.

        • JumpIf NotZero

          Everyone knows there is an issue, SIG is offering a fix. The new versions of the gun don’t have the issue. It’s over. Everything else is just for clicks. There is no shame in admitting it, well, there is, but at least it’s honest.

          • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

            If there is further news about it that I feel is actually important, that is when I will report on it. As for other writers? That ball is their court. I don’t have, or want, any control over what they write.

        • Ebby123

          “you haven’t seen all the information. Some things can’t be published”
          Then don’t bring them up. Be an adult about it Patrick.

          This “I know something you don’t but I can’t tell” business is juvenile. Either its relevant and you can share it, or it isnt’ relevant. Trying to play the middle ground is just spreading innuendo.

        • Kivaari

          Like the reports of numerous NDs?

  • Jim Slade

    Like it or not, hitting stuff with a hammer is a time-honored tradition of American gunsmithing. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9f1751b56ce675ee75e7fe27565c9929f7acc096e37dc6c859ace62040da5b14.png

  • Phillip Cooper

    The really ironic bit of all this is- I have a few of the Taurus pistols subject to recall over a similar issue. I’ve performed this very same sort of test on every one of them. NOT ONE fires under the conditions mentioned in the recall.

    • mazkact

      Same here, keeping my OSS pistols.

      • Phillip Cooper

        OSS somehow were not subject to the recall.

  • MIke H

    Not really sure how this isn’t “scientific”… if your results are repeatable on other P320’s, then I’m pretty sure it qualifies as scientific.

    • Michelle & Randy Krieger

      I sort of concur. The scientific method is a process: (1) observe; (2) formulate a hypothesis (that is, an idea you can test); (3) test; (4) repeat. You did that. Now that you have observed more, you can refine your hypothesis and develop new tests, such as seeing what happens if you wedge the trigger forward. Was it as refined as what the masses want? No, but it was science.

    • Bill

      No. Goggle “hypothesis testing” for some insight into the complexity involved in making a test “scientific.” Repeatability is only one aspect of testing.

    • raz-0

      It isn’t exactly quantifiable or repeatable, which makes it pretty unscientific. Which is why when you do real testing, you tend to develop jigs and fixtures so that you can do things repeatably. It doesn’t make it not evidence, but it makes it fairly unscientific.

      Being able to do things repeatably is really useful as it allows you to measure if change X actually fixed the problem.

      At some point you have to standardize a definition of safe so you can test and verify. This whole fiasco, demonstrates that existing tests that result in publicly available information exclude a test I would consider pretty realistic. Which would be hang a gun from it’s trigger guard and drop it from height X. I would argue that having seen this as a storage mechanism implemented by some folks in safes, that 5 ft would be a reasonably realistic height.

      Getting whacked with a hammer forces seems much less realistic. It also impacts the weapon in the same direction as known, passed drop tests, so is likely imparting more force. Do you test to infinite force that destroys the gun before calling it safe? No, you pick some threshold you consider to be unlikely and go with that.

      Personally, I’m very curious about testing things OTHER than the 320. There’s this assumption they did something uncharacteristically bad here. While that may be true with timing vs knowledge and when they disclosed things, I’m pretty sure that their drop testing was in line with the industry norms. Are most manufactures engineering to the tests or beyond the tests? This is something I think we all have a general interest in if we aren’t just playing fanboy.

  • Brick

    Scientific? No, of course not.

    But it does display skepticism of a quick fix, which in my opinion is appropriate in this day and age. Of any manufacturer- SIG, Glock… Ford, GM, Toyota, Samsung etc: Is it fixed or just hushed?

    • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

      Yay! You get it! There is hope I think.

  • USMC03Vet

    3 more of these sig 320 articles in less than 24 hours. Your guys are being obnoxious. Phil, you’re full of it too.

    • Edeco

      Yeah. Maybe I’m thinking of an earlier era of publishing but this seems like it could just be added as an update to the original hammer post.

      Few people would see it then, unless there were some feature to show newly updated posts, but oh well. There’s not much new firearm info here, mostly stuff about the guy’s schedule, what he meant to say, basically. The whole need for this could have been preempted by a better statement of the goals and limits of the methodology, but that would take time and make the findings seem less interesting.

      • Still

        It absolutely could’ve been consolidated to a single article w/ updates but spreading this over multiple articles means they get more page views.

    • Cyborg Fred
    • Ben

      Agreed. This is getting ridiculous. Might as well change the name of the site to The P320 Blog.

    • Hey bud I wrote a short one early on. I’ve been over this since SIG said what they would do to fix it. Dead horse at this point—just my opinion.

    • Thanks for not leaving me out—LOL!

  • mcjagermech

    I’m getting tired of hearing about this. We all know about it now. Write something new.

    • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

      “Do a new dance monkey! I’m bored of you.” Angry TFB reader

      • Vitsaus

        He’s right though.

        • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

          I would have done this yesterday or the day before but I haven’t been able to find the time.

          I am sure we will be back to our regularly scheduled press releases before you know it.

      • mcjagermech

        Yes do a new dance monkey. Although it’s much easier to rehash the same old dance and mock people who tire of it.

        • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

          No, it really isn’t. Fresh content is easier for me by far.

          • mcjagermech

            Well at least if you’re going to continue the P320 saga could you test other striker fired handguns? Take a hammer to the back of a RP9 or the Ruger American or a Glock or one of HK’s striker fired handguns. It’d be interesting to see who’s really drop safe and who isn’t

          • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

            I guess you missed where I said that I have plenty of other gun stuff I need to cover. The P320 is cutting into the time I should be spending on other things.

            Unless I learn something that I flat out can’t ignore, I may not revisit the issue.

          • mcjagermech

            It was merely a suggestion for a future article. I for example could only test this with the three handguns I own, and only one of them is striker fired and other is a revolver of which I am certain is not drop safe

          • Kivaari

            What revolver? MOST modern revolvers are quite safe. Just some 18th century revolvers were unsafe if fully loaded.

          • mcjagermech

            It’s a m1895 nagant

          • Kivaari

            It’s pretty safe. That floating breach block pretty much keeps the FP out of alignment until the thing is cocked and the trigger held to the rear. Like a S&W M19 the thing just cant fire unless it is hit hard enough to break off the hammer. Unless the trigger is held to the rear there is a FP/hammer block.

          • mcjagermech

            Interesting, I took it apart and saw how crude it was but I didn’t figure it’d be drop safe being it’s an old revolver, but since I’ve been messing with it I can see what you mean

          • Dougscamo

            I believe you mean 19th century, right?

          • Kivaari

            Yep.

          • jlarson41

            Good because you didn’t add anything of value to the discussion anyway.

          • JMR

            So I guess this post was a lie wasn’t it Patrick R?

          • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

            I’m not following you here.

          • Zebra Dun

            You could always get a Harlem Globe trotter to dribble a SiG across pavement and see how many dribbles it take s to shoot himself in the leg.
            :^D

          • Oh hell no!

          • Phillip Cooper

            So let’s see some. And stuff that was on the page yesterday, or on the page 4 times in a day, doesn’t count.

        • Exactly, TFB has probably done a dozen articles on this subject. And I haven’t seen much if anything new since the original two or three.

          FFS we get it, the P320 has an issue. Why don’t we shelve this until the fixed examples get out?

          • mcjagermech

            Yes the original drop test is handy and informative and so was Patrick’s hammer video, after that it’s been the same story

      • Slab Rankle

        Patrick, you shouldn’t get into pissing contests with the viewership.

        If your content has merit then it stands on its own and doesn’t need to be defended.

        I think the test you performed has merit simply because it shows that the gun will fire without pulling the trigger. Does anyone really doubt this?

        As for flogging a dead horse, I’d rather read about this issue than about another AR15 or Glock component that no one needs.

        I’d like to see these same tests done on other popular brands.

        • Bradley

          You’re wasting your breath. I would wager that he creates at least half as much content as comments arguing with people who disagree with him as he does in articles and videos. His rebuttals usually amount to “Nuh-uh!”

      • Ebby123

        More like “Do reporting without an agenda monkey! I’m sick of your increasingly CNN-esque s**t”.

        😉

      • ORCON

        Go throw a Hi-point, Patrick.

    • JeffL

      Sorry but I am not tired of hearing about this myself. Maybe you should choose just not to read these articles if you do not like them. It is a free country and no one is forcing you to read about this issue. I know I pick and choose what I read on the site. Keep up the good work TFB.

      • mcjagermech

        There are only so many articles the writers can crank out in a day, when there are multiple stories about the same issue over the span of a week it keeps new or more interesting content from being published which is what Patrick himself has said. Do you understand why I complain about it now? You are right that I am free not to read but this is my favorite blog and it’s where I like to go to pass time and learn something. This is beating a dead horse. We learned the P320 can fired when dropped on it’s rear and it will fire when hit by a hammer, what more do we need to know about the same flaw?

        • JeffL

          Sorry but I really do not buy your argument at all. The writers here owe you nothing. You are not paying their salaries. They are free to write what they what and in what timeframe they want. And they have the data to see what their readers want to read while we do not.. And from a quick glance you are in the minority about wanting more on this issue If they want to spend more time writing they could also produce more articles on different subjects while still revisiting old ones. But that it is their choice to make. And yes since they have a comment section it is your right to complain about thier choices. But would it not be a better solution if you want to see more content to either offer to pay them more money out of your pocket for what you what to see. Or write something yourself that they could post instead of whining about that the other writers do not have the same priorities as yourself.

          • mcjagermech

            I don’t care if you buy it or not. An sure they can do as they wish, but it is the readership and traffic that keeps the site running and the money flowing. thankfully Patrick says he has new content. As for me writing something, it would be a waste of time since I don’t have any info or news that they do not so they wouldn’t feature my work. I wouldn’t care if they continued on this topic as long as it didn’t dominate the news on this blog, which it currently has for the past week

    • n0truscotsman

      Funny, thats what some of us were thinking about with the MHS competition news and the incessant SIG gloating.

      Carry on though.

  • RavishedBoy

    There’s a video that shows a P320 completly empty, with a magazine and some rounds on a nearby table.
    When the pistol is dropped, she fills the magazine, inserts it, chambers a round and when hits the floor she goes off (provided you drop the pistol from high enough).
    Check it out.

  • Vitsaus

    Are we still on this sh*t?

  • yvette99

    Far too many people have science confused with statistics. Your experiment was scientific because it was repeatable, it was measurable, it was falsifiable, and anybody can perform it.

    • It’s neither measurable nor repeatable, because we cannot establish HOW HARD he is hitting with any kind of accuracy.

      I review a lot of test reports, including shock tests ordnance, and “Just whack it with a hammer, yo,” isn’t considered a scientific test.

      • Ebby123

        ^^^This.
        A drop test is a very specific amount of energy delivered in a very specific way.
        Its calculated based on the acceleration of gravity (9.81m/s^2).

        “Hit it with a hammer, yo” is not. Its based on an unmeasured speed, unmeasured acceleration, and an unknown mass at an unknown angle (“roughly” is not a measurement). It is not repeatable, or scientific.

        Now what you can learn from tests like Patricks is what kind of real experiments you may wish to develop. But this was not an experiment, this was just a blogger smacking a gun with a hammer to generate clicks.

  • Jim Drickamer

    Simple question: If I drop a pre-1980 Colt Government Model or hit it with a hammer, will it fire? It might. If I drop a Colt Model P or hit it with a hammer, will it fire?

    • Probably and yes. If you take a Hi Power remove the mag, lock the slide back then drop a round into the chamber then release the slide it goes off. So what I’d never put the gun in that position.

  • maynardb

    Dear Ford Pinto owner,
    While we are sorry you family member perished screaming in agony in a flaming wreck, we do not consider a sample of one in unverifiable field conditions to be scientific. Therefore we do not consider your family member to be scientifically dead. So, scientically, it isn’t our fault.

    • Ebby123

      Welcome to the world of consumer products.

  • Nicks87

    There was a lot of unwarranted Glock hate going on after the Army selected the 320 and this is the fallout. People were being really ridiculous with the Glock bashing but now those same people want to cry about the drop safe issue/articles? The push back is real. Its how Trump got elected.

    • Ebby123

      That’s a hilarious parallel! Great observation… though I would more concisely summarize this social phenomenon as “A lot of people are just ***holes to each other”. 😛

    • n0truscotsman

      LOL

      Thats why its so funny.

  • Bill Wilson
    • Cyborg Fred

      Awesome!

  • why not tape the trigger so it doesn’t move? that to hard to do?

  • olivehead

    Anybody who gets overly worked up over the performance or failure of a mechanical device, be it a gun, car, or toaster, to the extent of name calling, bitterness, resentment, or even hatred, has a bit of a personal problem. Nothing personal, just a statement of principle.

  • Butt Pirate

    Holy God… ANOTHER P320 failure article. Yeah, you guys are just fact reporting still, right?

    • James Young

      This was because YankeeMarshall on Youtube was criticizing Patrick for his test, so he posted a response here. It’s not “another” article for clicks; it’s a response to criticism

  • Bill

    Would anyone like a video of a P320 being hit with a hammer and not going off?

  • RogUinta

    I suspect TFB is just butthurt that TTAG got to attend the press junket to SIG earlier this week. At this point TFB is just trolling SIG in the hopes of getting some attention and generating clicks.

    • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

      Nah, I was at something cooler.

      • RogUinta

        You were helping “Smith & Wesson to Close Gemtech”?

        • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

          Nope, was in Kentucky shooting Crimson Trace equipped pistols in a cave and bombing around the woods in a bad ass Honda side by side. We will have a video about it in several weeks after I get a couple of things filmed and cut it all together.

          • txJM

            These arrogant millennials are taking over the blogosphere. Sigh.

          • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

            You think I look young enough to be a millennial? You are gonna make me blush 🙂

          • txJM

            Are you self-identifying as arrogant?

          • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

            According to my wife, yes. She said I should self-identify as arrogant.

          • txJM

            Well played

    • Not really—— as far as the press trip.

  • Travis

    Here is what I learned from this entire thing…
    1. Any manufacturer can have an issue.
    2. Some manufacturers get more guff than others about their issues.
    3. It is almost impossible to make the perfect pistol.
    To expound on that last point, the perfect combat pistol to most people would be one that is target accurate, all conditions reliable, super compact, very hand filling, long sight radius and holds 58 rounds of ammo, has no manual safeties to manipulate, has a 3 lb trigger that is crisp and has a tactile reset, and has so many built in safeties that it practically won’t shoot someone that it is not supposed to. Talk about an engineering nightmare (impossibility)! Many people will say that Glock does what Sig couldn’t, but we all know about Glock Leg, which is not exactly the fault of Glock, because they listened to the consumer and gave them what they wanted, a relatively light trigger for every pull, with no manual safeties. For me, I will stick with a double/single action pistol to give me most of the advantages with an inherently safer design.

    • Nicks87

      “Glock Leg” translation: Dips**t having a brain fart.

    • American Patriot

      1. Any manufacturer can have an issue.
      3. It is almost impossible to make the perfect pistol.
      That is true….But not all mfr’s initially lie about their problem! If you want a pistol that’s near perfection…..Get a Glock & I’ve never gotten glock leg but then I actually know how to handle a firearm.

  • olivehead

    I happened to catch a few minutes of the Yankee Marshal’s podcast, and he said every time a ginger steals a soul, he gets another freckle.

  • steveday72

    The issue it showed was this:

    Hit something with a hammer several times and hit it hard, eventually it will fail (as does your hammer – which begins to disintigrate).

    You are exerting orders of magnitude more force than if the gun were to drop under gravity or even assisted discardment (ie: tossed away).

    Since hitting an object with a hammer is directly equal to using that object as a hammer (the forces are equal), what you have shown is that the P320 cannot be used as a replacement for a hammer. Well, done!!

    • Ebby123

      The innuendo is this: The 320 can fire without the trigger moving, which is patently false. The hammer test is just another orientation of the drop test – a sudden change in inertia directed along a specific axis.

      Instead of having a moving gun hitting a stationary floor, now its a stationary gun getting hit by a moving hammer. Same exact physics, same reaction – but thanks to some leading questions the implied message was “WOAH OMG! YOU DON’T EVEN HAVE TO DROP THE 320 FOR IT FOR IT TO GO OFF!!!.

      For a grown man to be writing like that, either (A) he has a very poor understanding of physics, or more likely, (B) he’s spreading rumors to gullible people to gain views at the expense of others.

      • Kivaari

        It’s important since the chances of it taking a beating in a holster is greater than the likelihood of it being dropped.

        • RealitiCzech

          Guns get dropped all the time. Especially handguns.

          • Kivaari

            I’ve dropped my fair share.

      • Kivaari

        SAAMI spec allows for a mallet test when the gun is hit fro the back with the force of a carpenter driving a nail. The gun is supposed to pass the test. The test for dropping also includes a muzzle up drop like OO did.

  • Gregory

    Only one thing matters. The gun goes bang when it should not, case closed.

  • Tym O’Byrne

    Start hitting all your semi autos the same way, see what happens…

  • Archer

    Did no one mentioned the 9 x 19 mm Enhanced Barrier Round Glock developt together with Vista Outdoor yet?

    I used Google to be sure, and I can’t find it on TFB. Maybe it is worth a look anyway.

  • txJM

    Holy sheeit. Selfie video…. self flagellating…. muh P320…. This article has all the gay.

  • Cyborg Fred
  • Nick

    Hey Patrick, what brings you to Nashville?

  • AJHengineer

    Can someone hit Patrick R. with a hammer to find his defects and then debate the validity of the tests. PLEASE!?

  • AJHengineer

    Can someone hit Patrick R. With a hammer to determine his defects and then we can all debate the validity of the test? PLEASE!? I

  • RealitiCzech

    For the next test, hit a P320 with another P320. Bonus points if both go off at once.

    I would say this is unnecessary, but per the comments there are still fanboys who want to pretend this is in no way a safety issue… so it does have value.

  • Kerry Donnelly

    Want to jump in here and say Patrick from TFB has done nothing wrong at all here. I happen to be a fan of TYM and Patrick and have commented enough on each of their content that I have had them both respond to me on more than one occasion. Patrick being a owner of the P320 performed a service to the gun community. He did so in his garage and “on the fly”. He did this because he cares. He has also in the past reported on things to help you save money like key mod vs m-lok. Cut this guy some slack he is a good member of the gun community and has done nothing but try to put better information in our hands to make a better decision. There should be no controversy here unless you think a guy trying prevent a potential fatal auccident is controversial.

  • TimRoy

    Thanks, Patrick for taking the time and effort to inform your readers regarding a serious consumer issue. As a design engineer, I for one would be very interested in hearing what the final cause turns out to be and the details of Sig’s upgrade to address the cause. So keep the articles coming as developments occur.
    Regarding the title, I believe my physics profs would definitely not call your video an experiment because, as you point out, it was unscientific because it lacked repeatability due to lack of measurements. Calling it a test was a poor word choice because it’s such a gray area and a nonspecific term. I believe what you performed would best be termed a demonstration. Experiments follow from demonstrations to isolate and quantify the significant variables.
    As is obvious from the various comments, this is a hot button issue due to many factors including MHS, competitors comparable products, personal determination of issue seriousness, DOD drop test specs, and Sig’s public responses. I just hope the cause/flaw actually becomes public at some point and an effective solution is implemented.
    My own perspective is that it wasn’t that long ago that very few guns were drop proof and the engineering is apparently still evolving.

    btw. Arguing with adhd troll commenters is like pissing into a strong wind…

  • Don Ward

    What isn’t mentioned in this article is that Yankee Marshall called Patrick over his test and Patrick got kind of frosty about it in the YouTube comments.

  • ShootCommEverywhere

    As a P320 owner I can see how the striker block (what I’m calling the metal plate on the side of the striker that has the puny leaf spring) is moved out of the way at the very beginning of the trigger pull, meaning the inertia of the trigger when dropped at a certain angle can overcome the striker block. Then I suppose the blow just has to be hard enough to allow the striker to barely protrude despite being under spring tension.

    The fixes? In addition to the discussed lightened (weight, not pull weight) trigger and other components, I’d like to see that puny striker block spring beefed up a bit. Not sure if they’re willing to do that because it would likely affect the pretravel on the trigger, but I could live with that.

  • DanGoodShot

    Did you catch Yankee Marshalls video? His panties were all in a bunch about your vid not being scientifical. HA!

  • Oh and by the way Apex sent out a press release saying don’t use our trigger in the 320.

  • NukeItFromOrbit

    I can picture it now, five years from now long after the problem has been fixed TFB will lecturing the clueless individuals claiming the P320 misfires when dropped while acting like they didn’t have a hand in creating a persistent myth.

    For reference M16s always jam because ‘Nam.

  • ActionPhysicalMan

    Patrick, do you understand that probably no one reads TFB to see pictures of you? You are not the story that people want to read or watch.

  • Bill

    Will it go off if you take a Dremel to it?

  • Kivaari

    Some have said the test by Omaha Outdoors exceeded SAAMI standards. SAMMI dictates a 42″ drop using an elaborate system to ensure the gun falls on all SIX cardinal axis. Some said the guns are not dropped muzzle up. Well, SAAMI spec includes a muzzle up orientation essentially like the OO drop.

  • Kivaari

    SAAMI spec also has a MALLET test. They recommend using a hard rubber or leather hammer and hitting the gun from all directions, but specifically from the rear. Starting with modest blows up to the speed it takes for a carpenter to drive a nail. I’d say Patrick R. did a good job.

  • JMR

    Hey you know what we need? Another Sig P320 article.

    You know what, it’s a new week, so can we gen at least 3 or 4 more this week to?

    And maybe some “We don’t discuss politics but here’s a political article” article for some flavoring.

  • JMR

    I counted 10 Sig P320 articles over the last week.

    And more just outside that window.

    And I think I may have missed one.

  • rob in katy

    It is Monday, Aug 14th, anyone see an update from Sig yet? Mine arrived there today to initially fix a sticking TDL, but after the story broke I emailed and asked if they could address the drop-fire at the same time, the guy said, “yes.” If I hear anything from them I will let you guys know.

  • koolhed
  • Jim Burgess

    News Flash: Hitting the back of your loaded firearm with a hammer is stupid no matter what.

  • Zebra Dun

    The same is said about the Colt Gov. Model MK IV Series 70 yet from horseback (about 5 ‘ high x 25 mph) at a trot due to a worn out old holster dropped it, locked and loaded with a round in the chamber and the safety on.
    It bounced across hard pan dirt road about three times and did not go off.
    Scuffed, dirty and scratched with a few little dings it worked flawlessly when I got home and test fired it as it was.
    ———————
    I understand a Nuclear power plant accident happened once when an employee used a hammer to attempt to free a stuck water coolant valve. It killed him. Killed him so bad in fact he was buried in a lead coffin.
    ——————
    Folks drop firearms, In the Marines a deadly sin that got you PT’d near to death and a night spent sleeping with the rifle attached to your leg.
    Not many folks hit loaded firearms with a hammer though, that just ain’t right.