Slide Stop Or Slide Release? I Bet You Don’t Know

I’ll bet you can’t figure out what is a slide stop and what is a slide release. Even though most people have no idea what the heck the terms mean if anything, the rife thing that is thrown around when talking a slide lock reload it some fool regurgitating what the manufacturer calls the part.

Like I said, I bet you don’t have a clue what is a slide stop or slide release. No one does.

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  • TheNotoriousIUD

    Its a slide stop/release.

    Lets never speak of this again.

    • Exactly, the official name varies pistol to pistol. But the function is the same. Sure some are easier to release with your thumbs than others. But that just means how to work with that particular pistol might be different.

      • David Jenkins

        I consider it a slide lock, as the proper way to do a reload if empty is to grab the slide and pull back on it, then release. Easier to do gross motor skills in a gunfight.

        • M1911

          Not the gross motor skills bushwa again.

          Gross motor skills is a child development term and refers to the use of large muscles, like the legs. Anything using the fingers is, by definition, a fine motor skill.

          The proponents of grabbing the slide use that term incorrectly in order to add some pseudoscientific justification for their assertion that it is easier to grab the slide than to hit the slide release.

          Think about it. Those instructors claim that you will be able to pull the trigger and hit the magazine release button, but you won’t be able to hit the slide stop. Is that logical? Where is there evidence that it is easier to grab the slide than to hit the slide release?

          Back when I was an IDPA safety officer, I watched a master level shooter blow a reload as his hand slipped off the slide twice as he tried to grab it. I never once saw someone miss the slide release.

          Here is the reality: both techniques work. Hitting the slide release is faster if the gun has a properly positioned and generously sized slide release. Try them both. Pick one. Train that way.

          • Bill

            I agree with pulling the slide to the rear to release it, and I also agree with your diatribe about “fine motor skills.” If all slide lock levers were in the same location from gun to gun, and took the same amount of effort to push, I might teach that technique. In training cops, across multiple platforms, I haven’t witnessed anyone blow grasping the slide to release it that I recall, though I’ve seen a lot of muffed reloads. Some guys aint never gonna make a baby if they have the same difficulty with sex as they have sticking a magazine into a magazine well without missing it or fumbling around.

          • M1911

            I completely understand that if you are training people with different platforms, that teaching a single technique that works across all platforms is the way to go.

            I’ve seen more than a couple folks not grab the slide hard enough and have their hands slip off without retracting the slide. This has typically only happened when 1) they were under stress, and 2) it was cold and/or raining.

            My carry guns all have the slide stop in the same place, and I only have to train me. So I’ll train with the slide stop, and be a little bit faster than pulling back on the slide.

            One justification some people use for pulling back on the slide, is that the technique will work if they have to pick up someone else’s gun. For me, the chances of my being in a gunfight are slim. The chances that my gun goes down or runs out of ammo are even slimmer. The chances of someone else’s gun being available, and extra mags being available, and my actually having to reload, seem infinitesimally small to me.

          • Disgruntled

            Not all slides are equal. Rack the slide on a cz then rack the slide on a usp and tell me they are the same.

          • Rob

            Thankyou M1911, Truth well spoken.

          • David Jenkins

            Well, I’ve been shooting for over 25 years, did a paid vacation overseas, and spent a good amount of money on private instruction as well. Also, I have a chemistry degree. Not that that has anything to do with firearms, but it shows intelligence.

            It is easier, I’ve tried both more times than I can count, and grabbing the slide works better. And people don’t miss the slide “release” in IDPA because they aren’t being shot at, big difference there.

          • M1911

            I have three civil engineering degrees. So what?

            I have no doubt that grabbing the slide works better for you. Where I part company is your assertion that therefore it works better for others. That is simply not true.

            As for taking professional instruction, I’ve taken about 250 hours on formal firearms instruction, from instructors including Mas Ayoob, Randy Cain (SWAT officer, instructor at Gunsite and other schools), Sig Academy, S&W Academy, Ben Stoeger (USPSA Production National Champion), Mike Seeklander (USPSA Grand Master, former Marine, former instructor at FLETC, former US Air Marshal).

            “And people don’t miss the slide “release” in IDPA because they aren’t being shot at, big difference there.” Oh for goodness sakes, not that old chestnut again.

            If someone can’t find the slide stop under the stress of being shot at (as you are implying), then how in the hell did they manage to 1) find the magazine release button, 2) find their spare mag, and 3) insert their spare mag into the magwell?

            If someone can flub pulling back the slide stop under the relatively minor stress of an IDPA match, then why would they be able to do that better when being shot at?

            Both techniques work. Try them both. Choose one. Train that way. If you are proficient at both techniques, pulling back the slide is 1/4 to 1/2 longer. If you wish to pull back the slide because that works better for you, great. Just accept that it is slower.

          • David Jenkins

            I actually do both. Like I said, I agree with the other poster that the slide stop/release should be a larger, easily pressed lever or button, in a universal spot on pistols.

            I probably have a poor explanation of what I mean, and it didn’t come out right. All blame is on me for that. Being a scientist means I am willing to accept when I am wrong, and when there is a better method for doing things. I guess the term “gross motor skills” wasn’t the best term to use, or what I meant, exactly.

            That’s really part of it. It’s different on every gun. Most mag releases on pistols are in the same spot(other than H&K and some European/Russian handguns with the heel release).

            I’ve never claimed to know everything. I believe there is always more to learn. I do agree that pulling back on the slide does take longer, but it doesn’t seem to be any measurable amount when I try it.

            I’m used to arguing with people on this site, and other gun forums, that don’t know anything. Nice to meet someone with a lot of experience as well. It does get tiring explaining things. And I don’t mean to new shooters or people that just don’t know stuff. I’ve always got time to help someone, and I’ve trained quite a few people in college when I had my small range in my backyard(was only 20 yards, but it was what I had).

            Most of the people I talk to think they know everything, and it gets old.

            It’s a bit of a moot point, anyways. I haven’t carried in 4 years, or owned guns. My worsening mental illness has made me make an honest judgement call, and get rid of them. It wasn’t anything legal, more a call on my part. It sucks, because I love to shoot. I still shoot my friend’s weapons on occasion, I’ll buy them ammo and help clean them.

            I know with my knowledge level it’s pretty much my duty to carry a gun as a civilian, but I might be able to do so in the future.

        • Anonymoose

          If you can’t hit the slide release under stress, you aren’t getting your magazine out either. You’re probably also going to crap yourself before you even get your gun unslung/unholstered.

          • retfed

            When I was an instructor at a large multi-agency academy, we taught the slingshot method exclusively. The reason was one that nobody here has mentioned: Gloves. Try hitting the slide stop/release/whatchamacallit with gloves on and making it work every time. Then get back to me.

          • M1911

            If you can’t hit the slide stop while wearing gloves, then explain to me how you are able to hit the mag release button while wearing gloves.

    • Jared Vynn

      It’s the last round hold open device release mechanism.

  • S Bond

    Glock Armorer’s manual calls it a slide stop lever.

    • GaryOlson

      The semantic device — I like it.

  • Don Ward

    ped·ant
    noun
    a person who is excessively concerned with minor details and rules or with displaying academic learning.

  • mrsatyre

    A rose by any other name is still a rose. People get bent out of shape over this stuff? I only know my Glocks have “slide stop levers” because I had to know the name of the slide lock so I could find a longer one online. Then I promptly forgot them both until now.

  • 1911Junkie

    Can’t say anything about other guns, but on 1911 it’s a slide *stop*. That’s how JMB has designed it. It is not recommended to use it to release the slide, because it puts additional stress on the slide stop notch and the slide stop itself, wearing it out prematurely. Since the slide stop is a not drop-in part (just like pretty much anything else in 1911 except maybe grip panels) and plays a significant role in barrel to slide fit, I never (or almost never) use it to release the slide.

    • Jonathan Ferguson

      So why does it have chequering on its upper surface?

      • Don

        Jonathan didn’t you know, that was put there as a non slip surface for a thumb rest 🙂

    • Jonathan Ferguson

      From the Colt manual for the Gold Cup model; “…press down on the thumb piece of the slide stop. The slide will snap forward to its closed position, carrying a cartridge from the magazine to the barrel chamber.”

    • Don

      And the internet is full of irate and angry people who have 1911’s that have worn out slide “stops”. Come on now, how many people have you ever heard of who wore out a slide stop from releasing the slide with it? It is RARE to see anyone pull back on the slide to release the stop. I have a well used 20 year old 1911 that I have always used the stop release button to release the slide and it hasn’t worn out? By using the word “prematurely”, did you mean like 100 years instead of a lifetime? What is the life expectancy of the slide stop? (Sarcasm of course)

    • retfed

      In JMB’s original design, the slide didn’t lock back on an empty magazine. That wasn’t changed until 1921. (Try it with the original 1911 mags. They’re easy to identify; the top half is left in the white.) So the only way to “stop” the slide would be to push up on it from the underside. How come there’s no checkering on the bottom?

  • Brick

    Well, what does Gordon Freeman call it? (Nice shirt!)

  • MikeA

    Are you going fishing? Because the can of worms you’re opening is going to be awesome!

  • NINJA del TACO
    • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

      Those would be for catching leprechauns. Idiot.

      I expect better from you guys.

      • iksnilol

        It’d be really hard to catch you… because there’s an ocean and everythang between us. No way I’mma bother swimming that far.

        • Anonymoose

          Ride the rainbow over here!

      • NINJA del TACO

        CHAPTER 6 – The Psychological Makeup of the Leprechaun- ….” if the Leprechauns underground gold cache is threatened by an individual. He may try and utilise diversionary trickery and name calling. This is a sure sign you are close to the pot of gold.” https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/81ff80807dc2dd6e20ef1070972a4207159e32ba3906d38476ecdb52849e4f59.jpg

  • hikerguy

    Touche’ Patrick. Touche’.

    • IdoNotWearShirts

      He always wears that shirt.

  • IcanHazEnglish?

    “Even though most people have no idea what the heck the terms mean if
    anything, the rife thing that is thrown around when talking a slide lock
    reload it some fool regurgitating what the manufacturer calls the part.”

    Is it just me, or does anyone else consider this sentence clunky and fairly incomprehensible?

    I would edit the sentence but the last half of it doesn’t make any intelligible sense.

    • Bill

      My first thought was that English was the writer’s second language, but I don’t think so.

    • ORCON

      It’s Friday. Drinks are usually had a noon on Fridays.

    • Jonathan Ferguson

      Not just you. I re-read it twice & it still makes no sense.

    • Swarf

      Rife *is* a word, but… not there it isn’t.

    • Giolli Joker

      Covfefe.

  • Jtx

    Slide stop is the little bit of metal that stops the slide in rearward position the slide release is button on the slide stop that releases the slide from the stop position to full battery

    • This. The slide release is the part of the slide stop you press to release the slide if you’re one of the people who does that instead of slingshotting it.

    • Anomanom

      This is a good answer. I approve of this.

  • Joshua

    Way I’ve always looked at it is this.

    If it’s big enough for my thumb to sit on and easily grip(1911, M9, P320, etc) it’s a slide release.

    If it’s tiny and set into the frame enough as to be practically useless as a manual release, where using the slide is easier it is essentially a slide stop.

    But that’s just me personally.

  • Did this really need to be an entire video? Two paragraphs, tops.

  • Ark

    Properly engineered guns have a slide release. Poorly engineered guns have a slide stop.

    • lucusloc

      This needs way more upvotes. I am so sick of people telling me that using the slide release is not correct. It is faster and requires less hands than using the “more reliable” slingshot/overhand manual rack methods. This makes it a more efficient and better methodology. If you are using a gun that cannot reliably chamber a round this way, the problem is not your training, the problem is your gun. Of course you should also train the manual rack methodology (be it overhand, slingshot or whatever), but that really is only for clearing malfunctions like bad feeds and whatnot. Normal use/training should use the slide release. And if your guns does not have a usable slide release that should be fixed, and a complaint should be filed with the manufacturer if it is new gun.

      People need to understand that as technology advances methodology will change with it. It used to be that a manual racking was considered the only proper methodology, but now we know that to be incorrect. It use to be common knowledge that a single hand presentation of a pistol was considered correct, and we now know that to be wrong as well. So too dropping a round into the chamber and closing the slide on it used to be incorrect due to the prevalence of fixed extractors. Now days no modern pistol uses a fixed extractor, so using this methodology to load the first round is better, as it avoids all the shortcomings of loading a round from the mag.

      Point is technology changes, and it would do the old codgers to realize this and learn to run their guns better.

      /rant (sorry, that got longer than I intended)

      • David Jenkins

        Nah, in a gunfight, gross motor skills such as the manual rack method is correct and more reliable. It is just as fast as well, as you put the magazine in, you use the same hand to rack the slide, it’s pretty fluid, but hard to describe without a video.

        But using the slide lock to release the slide isn’t wrong, it just works better on the range than in a gunfight. I always use the rack method, as it’s better to train one technique all the time, than do either/or.

        • WPZ

          Any shot timer on an action shooting stage will dispute that slingshot is just as fast. It’s actually very slow, which is why no one uses it apart from people with a lot of “tactical” training.

          • David Jenkins

            It actually isn’t slow, not the way I’ve done it. You insert the magazine all the way in the pistol with your left hand, with it still there, you run it up the side of the pistol, then over the slide, gripping and pulling it back. You don’t move your hand back and grip the slide with thumb and fingers, like a slingshot. You cup your hand over the slide.

            I should do a video or something to explain what I mean. It’s actually really fast and efficient. Hard to put into words.

          • lucusloc

            that is called the overhand manual rack, as opposed to the slingshot manual rack where you grab the back of the slide between your thumb and index finger. Both methods are still slower than using the slide release, since I can operate the slide release with my firing hand the moment after I ram the slide home, and my support hand goes straight to its position on the gun.

        • lucusloc

          Nope. This has been pretty thoroughly debunked numerous times. The slide release method is measurably faster, as your support hand does not need to take a detour up to the slide while presenting the firearm and can head straight for the proper grip position (which it should be right next to after ramming the mag home). Your firing hand can take care of dropping the slide since a popper grip should put your thumb right next to the slide release anyway.

          The argument of “but gross motor skillz!” is also dumb, because dropping the slide release is no more “fine motor skills” than operating the trigger. It can be done out of pure instinct with proper training and repetition. If your gun is properly designed it will not even take that much effort, as a simple swipe with your thumb should engage the release. I practice this method after every reload, and I now have to exercise a conscious decision to *not* drop the slide after inserting a mag because the motion is part of my muscle memory for the process. Plus the fact that using either of the manual racking methods is actually far more complicated, both in motion and number of actual steps to complete. “put thumb on slide release, press down” is way simpler than “reach up with support hand, grab slide, pull back, let go, move support hand to support position”.

          A gun fight is the last place you want to handicap yourself with a more complicated and slower procedure. Let go of the outdated mindset and methodology and embrace the more efficient, simpler and better method. And don’t let anyone tell you the manual rack is better. Unless you are using far outdated or badly designed technology using the slide release is demonstratively better than a manual rack.

          • David Jenkins

            25 years experience with firearms and a tour overseas, as well as about 7k in private training courses. So not exactly a novice just making things up.

          • lucusloc

            Does not matter if you were taught outdated methodologies, it just means you are wedded to less than optimal practices. They used to teach single handed “Olympic” stances in the military too, that does not make it better than weaver or isosceles. The firearms industry is very slow to adopt new ways of doing things, but we are most assuredly in the middle of that transition now with several things. Use of the slide release is just one of those things. As the practice becomes more accepted it will become more standardized, and people will expect all slide releases to be easy to use and in about the same spot on every gun. the last of the unusable slide releases will die off as people prefer to purchase guns that work out of the box, and the old manual rack will be relegated to malfunction drills where it rightfully belongs.

          • David Jenkins

            I agree the slide release needs to be a good, easily accessible thing on any handgun.

            But I’ll take what worked for me and use that. The overhand rack is possibly slower, but it is more sure. Not slower enough to matter, and if needed, I can start shooting one handed as soon as I’ve racked the slide, so it is about the same speed. I’ll be able to hit anyone one handed within pistol range if it is that desperate of a situation.

          • lucusloc

            Sure it can work “well enough”. But shooting one handed also works “well enough”, that does not mean we teach it as a foundation principle. The modern methodologies are measurably better, so they are what we teach as the foundation, and things like one handed shooting or manual racking are taught only as contingencies, useful for specific situations and for specific reasons.

            Of course this is probably why the firearms industry is so conservative; the old codgers don’t want to retrain when their older training is good enough. So the old training hangs around, infecting the new blood that buys into the old arguments, until enough new people realize that it is indeed less efficient and start dropping it en mass. Then it takes manufacturers a few more years to catch onto the trends in after market modifications specifically designed to allow the new methodologies to be more viable on older designs, and the next thing you know it’s 25 years later and the argument is only just being settled.

            You might still have a few old guys arguing that squaring up presents a larger target area, ignoring the fact that if you hit the other guy first that should not matter. Or the argument that manual racking works with every gun, which should not matter because you should actually train with your carry gun, not just any gun laying around.

            And you know what? I get it. Retraining can be hard, as old habits ingrained over decades will not die easily. It may very well be true that retraining that reliable muscle memory is not worth the few extra moments you would gain. But that is no excuse for inflicting it on the next generation of shooters. Let them train to the best that modern equipment and methodologies will allow them, and stop poisoning their minds with outdated arguments and ideas.

          • David Jenkins

            I wouldn’t call it outdated. As for the weaver or isosceles stances, I generally won’t be using those either, in a close range situation. You will be moving and shooting, at the same time, in a real life situation, not standing still.

            I’ve done both the slide release and racking the slide, and I haven’t seen a measurable difference. I’m pretty fast with both. Pretty much faster than someone that hasn’t experienced doing it while being shot at, which is the key.

            I do get your point, and the answer will be “it depends”.

          • iksnilol

            One handed Olympic stance is better than any military stance if one of your arms get wounded.

          • lucusloc

            yep, but if that is the case you are not going to be using the overhand manual rack. At that point, if you can still manage a reload, it is going to be slide release all the way.

      • Ark

        I own guns which require me to use both. Given the choice, I’d always rather be able to release the slide with either my primary hand thumb or the thumb of my support hand.

        I’m not gonna sell my Shield any time soon, but it definitely forces the user to manually rack the slide. The release is so stiff that it can’t release the slide on an empty magazine at all, and it requires so much force on a loaded magazine as to be impractical. Contrast that with my Beretta, which has a butter-smooth slide release that can be actuated with gentle thumb pressure. It’s clear which gun is better engineered. You don’t get to play semantics games to excuse a poor product.

        • lucusloc

          Yep, I have seen some modern guns that execute that feature very poorly. As far as I am concerned that makes the gun unusable as anything other than a range toy. If I can find aftermarket parts that fix the problem then that is fine, but until then I will not carry it. This is true for slide releases, triggers, sights etc. All of them need to work, and work decently well. If even one of them is off then running the gun is going to be way more difficult than it needs to be. I’d rather just carry something that works.

          • David Jenkins

            Part of the reason I do it is manual of arms. Racking the slide will always work. The slide release might be big, like on a 1911, or small, like a Glock. If you pick up an unfamiliar weapon, or a new weapon, it always works. I generally use it on 1911’s and such.

            Also, good sights are important, but I point shoot within 5 yards with a pistol anyways, it’s faster, and “combat accurate”, so that isn’t a total no go, either. I’ve never seen a pistol that had such terrible sights they were unusable, other than some really tiny ones. Sights are more for a bit more distance.

        • Bill

          This. Racking the slide works on any pistol, and is likely an ingrained part of the manual of arms anyway, ’cause you do it when loading, unloading and during immediate actions

          • iksnilol

            No… a Hämmerli X-Esse will hang up if you load via the slide.

          • Bill

            D’oh!

  • Gun-Toting Racist

    When you run out of bullets it’s a slide stop/lock. When you put new ones in it is a release.

  • Dr. Longfellow Buchenrad

    If you have different objects being called by the same name, you have a problem. For example the use of the words “magwell” or “bullet” can lead to genuine confusion.

    When you have the same object being called by different names its not worth bickering about. Like the situation we have here. They all look pretty much the same, they all can be used with varying degrees of success to perform the same function. Regardless of what it might actually be called, call it whatever pisses off more of the people you dont like.

  • MoreNamesNStuff

    Let’s call it the “Action Retarding Dongle” or, hey, while we’re at it, why not call it the “Mashy McStopAndGo Cantilever.”

    There Mr. Dr. Longfellow Buchenrad, I’ve plied my craft here.

  • ARCNA442

    As long as it isn’t being confused with the slide lock, who cares?

  • Will

    Slide LOCK lever.
    When the slide lock lever is engaged the main spring is not fully compressed. When the slide lock lever is used as a slide release lever the slide does not move forward under full pressure and could, concivibly cause a malfunction.

    • Marcus D.

      That depends on the gun, and is not a universal rule. Kahr’s recommendation in its manual is to ONLY release the slide with the release lever. Works every time. But not so much pulling on the slide instead–more often than not you get a misfeed.

      • David Jenkins

        Wouldn’t get one, then. Proper training has a reload done by pulling back on the slide and releasing to chamber a new round. Much easier to do when getting shot at than pushing the tiny lever.

        • Don

          Proper training according to…?? To me, pushing down on a lever is easier than taking your eyes off your target to pull back a slide to chamber a round. Like the saying goes, there’s a million different ways to get from point A to point B…

          • David Jenkins

            You don’t take your eyes off the target.

        • Marcus D.

          Each to his own, but…For one, there is no such thing as “proper” training. You simply use the pistol as it was intended, and train accordingly. And as Patrick so completely demonstrated, it is not at all difficult to use the slide release lever when reloading. For two, there is nothing “tiny” about the Kahr release button. Maybe you should try one before you opine. For me, to drop a mag, use the support hand to load the spare, and then assume a shooting grip while releasing the slide with the strong hand is faster than doing an overhand release and then going for your shooting grip. then again, I don’t carry a spare, so the circumstance is not likely to arise. Where I live, an SD scenario isn’t likely to arise either, for what that’s worth. If there is a home invasion, I have plenty of NY reloads readily available. But as I said, each to his own.

    • Don

      I’ll tell you what Will, I’ll let you stick your finger in the slide as I release it using the slide stop/release button and you tell me there isn’t enough motion/pressure to pick up and chamber a round. Most of the time when people have a miss feed while using the release button is because they are holding the firearm too loosely as the slide slams forward causing the malfunction. Holding the firearm loosely is also the cause of a lot of misfeeds when shooting semi-autos. Watch anyone firing a Desert Eagle for the first time, you’ll most likely see both instances happen.

  • WPZ

    I want my three minutes and thirteen seconds back.

  • John

    I think this needs some technification. The slide lock/stop is the small piece of of metal that holds the slide back after the last round is ejected. The slide release is the little lever on the top of the grip that you hit with your thumb to release the slide. If you pull the slide back on a full mag, the slide stop/lock is disengaged and the slide release is overridden.

    And you thought it couldn’t get more complicated!

    • civilianaf

      Sweet pic brah

  • Paul Hurst

    If it stops the slide, it is a slide stop. If it releases the slide, it is a slide release. If does both, it is a slide stop/release. If it also holds slide open on last shot, it is magic.

  • Veritas

    How about I don’t care what you call it as long as I know what your talking about? This is like clip vs mag er I mean magazine. Everyone knows what It means, stop the correcting. Next it will be “That’s not a 1911 it’s a Kimber.”

  • Goody

    Is the red button on my TV an off button or an on button?

    • somebody’s asking the real questions here

  • iksnilol

    I’ve had some guns fail to feed if I used the slide release, whilst I’ve had others fail to feed if I racked the slide.

    What I’m saying is that stuff is wack, yo!

  • jerry young

    Ho Hum who cares? push up on it lock the slide push down release the slide, not noteworthy of any more discussion!

  • Don

    You titled the article wrong. It should read, “Hmmmmmm… What To Talk About When One Can’t Think Of Anything Else To Fill A Page With.” If it is coming down to filling your pages with this useless garbage just to have content, then it’s time to find new writers or change your title to “Rant”…

  • Eric Lawrence

    John Moses Browning called the lever on his greatest creation a slide stop. US Army manuals relating to the same firearm call it a slide stop. To call it a “slide release” or use it exclusively to load a round from a just inserted magazine is a mortal sin.

  • Risto Kantonen

    Wrong, Wrong! It’s a thingamabob. You know, the doohickey that can keep
    the slide in certain position or release it forward when manipulated.
    Satisfied? ;)

    Jokes aside, this is why systematic standardisation efforts should be started, to reduce confusion and unnecessary complexity. Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler. Use the KISS principle.

  • Treiz

    It is whichever the MANUFACTURER says it is. If they say it is a slide release and you use it as a slide release and it breaks or otherwise functions poorly, it’s on them. If they call it a slide stop and you –>misuse<– it to release the slide, then complain when it doesn't work well or breaks or is too small, etc etc etc, it's on you.

  • Black Dots

    “Power Stroke Forever” sounds like an epic metal band. When are they touring?

    • Bill

      My old band will open for them: “The Incredible Throbbing Stiffies.”

  • Big Daddy

    It depends on the gun. A Glock, it’s a slide stop you are not supposed to use it as a slide release it’s just a thin stamped piece.

  • Some Rabbit

    If there is provision to disengage the slide catch/stop with your finger, it’s a release. Some guns had a slide hold open that you couldn’t disengage unless you tugged the slide (Colt 1903). Frankly, it’s a multi-function part. When it catches the slide it’s a stop/catch and if you can then use it to release the captured slide, it’s release too. Personally, I call it the “crap I’m out of ammo flag” or “back to shootin’ button.”

  • Archer

    In german we call it “Verschlussfanghebel”, which roughly translates to slide catch lever. We use the same german word for the G36 part which does the same thing, and when you turn the language on the HK page to english, it is called bolt catch lever.

  • Tom

    To me the fact that there is a lever/button/etc. on the gun means it was meant to be manually operated by the user. If manufacturers wanted this to only function as a slide stop/last round hold open, there would be no reason for a lever/button etc. the user could manipulate in the first place. It would be easy to simply lock the slide open when empty without any lever/button/etc. for the user to operate. There are plenty of guns without any sort of slide lock/stop etc.

    When you think about it, there’s almost no reason to have a slide stop lever unless it’s to aid in reloading. If the manufacturer really expected you to slingshot the slide to reload every time there’s no need to lock the slide rearward in the first place, unless it’s for disassembly.

    At the end of the day it doesn’t really matter what the manufacturer intended it for or calls it If using it in a different manner works better for you, do it.

  • Mrl

    I found out with my new S&W M&P Shield compact .45 that it is a slide stop/lock. It can’t be released without pulling back on the slide to release it. This was a surprise to me. It was made this way by design. Just a different way of doing something now from all my other semi auto’s.

  • After I got out of the military a friend and new gun owner talked me into taking a pistol class with him. During the course I used the slide/stop/release after I did combat reloads. The very egotistical “NRA” instructor took the opportunity to make an example of me by claiming it was not a release and that the manufacturer was against such usage. To this I replied… “I have put over 7,000+ rounds through my pistol and have never had a malfunction with any reloads using the release.”

    He argued with me a bit and I asked him if he ever personally had or saw a malfunction from using the slide/stop/release. He tried to change the subject but finally he said no. The rest of the class he didn’t speak to me and I never did get a certificate.

    😉