The Bayonext Out The Front Bayonet

The AR-15 and M-16 variant rifles were originally designed for use with a bayonet, but with free float full-length hand guards being all the rage with tactical operators these days no one ever uses a bayonet anymore. Well the folks over at Bayonext have just the answer for you with their Bayonext Out The Front Bayonet. Because no one rocks a bayonet lug anymore (if you are, get with the program gramps and get a tactical rail) the Bayonext was designed to mount to most modern rail systems on the market by way of a standard one inch tactical light mount. So in case you run out of ammo during the zombie apocalypse or patrolling the mall you’ll have a deployable 7.5 inch pike ready to go.

In all seriousness, what the heck? The current trend with longer hand guards does make it harder to mount a bayonet, but hanging a 14″ accessory off to the side of your rifle seems like a good way to add weight and throw off the balance of your rifle. Even if it allows you to stab stuff with the press of a button. If you really need to add a bayonet to your rifle there is the Geissele Picatinny Bayonet Mount we posted about last year. If adding a bayonet to your rifle is something you’ve been meaning to do the Bayonext retails for $369 over at Check it out in action in the videos below.

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  • Michael Rice

    “I don’t need it…I Don’t need it…I don’t Need it…I don’t need It…”

  • Beju
  • jcl
    • Mazryonh

      Because this is intended for users of rifles with free-float barrels. Fix a blade or spike to your free-float barrel and it’s not free-floating anymore. The Bayonext allows your barrel to remain free-floating at least.

      • jcl

        But if the enemy get close enough to the point that you need to fix bayonet you probably don’t need free float barrel to hit them.

        • Mazryonh

          Free-floating barrels have become one of those “gotta have it” features in the AR-15 market, even with models intended for military/LEO customers like the HK416. This is in spite of how free-floating barrels give the most benefit to sniper rifles or DMRs, not carbines, but this is probably motivated by how the move towards making carbines standard-issue, instead of full-size rifles as before, means that the shorter barrel has to be more precise now than ever if carbine users are to hit more distant targets.

          Yes, if the enemy is within buttstroking distance or bayoneting distance, then free-floating barrels give next to no benefit because the decrease in grouping size given by those barrels is negligible. Unfortunately the US Armed Forces have been steadily de-emphasizing bayonet training and other forms of training for armed melee combat over the years so no one in the US Armed Forces seems to be in any hurry to develop new bayonet fitting devices.

          Even if this Bayonext turns out to be impractical, it’s significant in that’s it’s one of the few attempts towards making bayonets that will work on rifles and carbines with free-floating barrels.

  • Vhyrus

    Seems like you could put a kubaton knife into a flashlight holder and get the same result for about a tenth of the price. No it wouldn’t spring open like an assassins blade but it also would weigh a lot less and it wouldn’t be half the length of your gun either.

  • Jason Culligan

    Who even needs a bayonet these days? They were designed to give musketeers a defence against cavalry charges. Last time I checked charging on horseback against people with automatic weapons went out of fashion after WW1.

    Just carry a multifunction knife somewhere convenient and you’ll more than likely beat someone using a fixed bayonet.

    • Major Tom

      Bayonets instill a primeval sense of fear into people that even full-auto assault rifles and machine guns fail to do. When you fix a bayonet to a rifle, everyone understands to keep their distance.

      After all, nobody likes it up ’em.

      • RICH

        Nobody in their right frame of mind is going to try and grab a weapon with a bayonet attached to the business end of it ! IMO.

    • john huscio

      A bayonet fixed on a rifle is a superior weapon to a handheld knife of any sort. Of course ammo would have to run out for bayonets to come into play in the first place…..

      • Major Tom

        They’re great “Oh sh*t!” moment mitigators for when you have an empty mag or simply when someone or something is suddenly all up in your grill.

    • Risky

      The Brits performed a bayonet charge in Iraq in 2004.

      • Mazryonh

        And surprisingly enough, the Brits prevailed despite having to wield bayonets fixed to their bullpup rifles. Had the insurgents the Brits were fighting in the Battle of Danny Boy fixed their own bayonets to their conventional rifles and counter-charged, the insurgents would have had the reach advantage over the Brits.

        Good thing the Brits dared and won that day despite running low on ammunition and being out of contact with distant support fires.

  • Veloxto

    I wonder how long it will take for lawmakers to ban this? I’m not really sure what the point of having one is either nowadays.

    • john huscio

      Auto knife regulations are being eliminated everywhere right now (thanks to kniferights)

  • Richard T. Jones

    And only $369. What a bargain! But wait, there’s more………….

    • DanGoodShot

      More weight! More tactitard! More slash, slash, slashing!

      • Madcap_Magician

        Not even any more slash, slash, slashing, it’s a triangle spike bayonet.

        • Mazryonh

          One of the videos above shows the Bayonext being used to slash a pineapple, but the triangular blade profile doesn’t look very effective as a cutting implement, because a thinner profile means less material of what you’re cutting into has to be forced aside for the edge to do its work.

          Blades with a triangular cross section were mainly used in the musket era to make medical treatment of the stab wound difficult in those days, not because they cut well.

          • Jonathan Ferguson

            Not really (although it is also harder to stitch a triangular wound). The triangular profile gives strength, rigidity, and superior penetration. Bayonet drill in those days (and for most of history in fact) was geared around the giving of the point, because it’s easily trained and repeated, and tends to be more incapacitating than a cut.

          • Mazryonh

            The debate of whether or not a cut or thrust is more incapacitating has been going on for centuries.

            You can actually read some old-school points in favour of the cut, for instance, if you check out George Silver’s paper titled Paradoxes of Defense from 1599. In it, he describes how thrusts can be more easily parried than cuts, how in rapier duels both participants can be run through several times while still being able to fight (perhaps even while lethally wounded), and how properly-performed cuts can stop fights much more quickly even with centre-mass hits, or even by inflicting sufficient cutting damage to arms and hands (because that’s what we hold weapons with).

            In short, bayonets with small narrow points (such as the old WWI epee bayonets) may suffice to drive off conscripts or undisciplined troops due to primordial fears about being stabbed, but against determined opponents (such as troops with their backs to the wall fighting in close quarters, or even a sufficiently-pissed-off opponent in a judicial duel in historical scenarios) thrusts shouldn’t be the only melee fighting tools in a soldier’s repertoire. Unfortunately cutting attacks have completely fallen by the wayside in military-oriented martial arts, more or less, which is odd when you remember how almost no one on the modern battlefield wears anti-blade armour on their arms, and how easy it is to take someone out of a fight by cutting at their arms. The Ancient Romans learned that lesson the hard way when their legionnaires came up against enemies wielding ferociously-cutting Falx blades and had many of their legionnaires rendered combat-ineffective due to wounds to their unarmoured sword arms.

          • Tom Currie

            Defanging The Snake.

          • Mazryonh

            Tom Currie:

            “Defanging the snake” is certainly easier to do with a sword than a knife or baton, since with a sword you can strike at any point along an opponent’s arm and likely disable the arm below the point where you get a solid hit in.

            The Romans for their part adapted to the Falx by issuing armour for legionnaires’ arms, among other measures. But once again, cutting offense with long blades or sword bayonets generally isn’t taught anymore in modern first-world armed forces, and it’s also unlikely that those same forces will make limb armour for soldier’s arms standard-issue to reduce that vulnerability either for the foreseeable future.

    • iksnilol

      But it increases DPS.

  • DanGoodShot

    They REALLY think they have something here don’t they? This might be a little more practical as a standalone… maybe. No.

  • Major Tom

    Fix bayonexts!

    • lucusloc

      SPROING! Done!

    • GaryOlson

      Can’t be fixed. Throw it out and start from scratch.

    • Mazryonh

      I think the verb you’re looking for is “mount” in this case.

      • Major Tom

        No in actual military language the command is “Fix bayonets”.

        • Mazryonh

          Yes, I know that’s the order normally given. The problem is that this Bayonext isn’t “fixed” on short notice like normal knife bayonets are; instead, it has to be mounted on a rail or other attachment system beforehand. Trying to do that while under fire would probably take too long. So the only alternative would be to have it pre-mounted before heading outside the wire and “spring” the blade out when necessary, unlike knife bayonets which are generally fixed only as needed.

  • Mike N.

    Would this legally be considered a switchblade or automatic knife? They’re legal here in Texas but not everywhere.

  • Rnasser Rnasser

    A bayonet on a very short, relatively flimsy rifle that is also awkward to use with it is a joke…

    • Tom Currie

      I agree. A bayonet on an M16 or especially an M4 is a joke (and don’t ask what happened the first time the Army tried giving the same bayonet training that the used with the M14 to a Basic Training company armed with M16s – it wasn’t pretty).

      On the other hand, a bayonet makes quite a bit of sense on a Mossberg 590 due to the shorter range and smaller ammo capacity making realistic scenarios involving being out of ammo with an enemy too close for an effective reload.

      • Mazryonh

        Tom Currie:

        I’d like to know what happened when bayonet training intended for the M14 was first tried for the M16, actually.

        It’s nice that the Mossberg M590A1 normally comes out of the factory with the ability to mount a bayonet, but the other major US armed forces shotgun, the M1014 (based on the Benelli M4), doesn’t have that ability to my knowledge. Then again, I’ve never heard of a Benelli shotgun with that ability either.


        Sure, the right kind of muzzle strike can kill. But a fixed bayonet makes it easier.

    • CommonSense23

      I’m guessing you have never been muzzle struck.

  • mcjagermech

    Meanwhile I’m just trying to find a way to mount a milspec bayonet to my rifle. The front sight and gas block are mounted in a way that would be perfect for an M4 length barrel but it’s worthless since 16 in barrels are the minimum allowable length

    • Ken

      Pin and weld an extended muzzle device or get a 14.7″ barrel and pin and weld a standard length muzzle device.

    • JaxD

      There are a few AR bayonet adapters out there. Found mine on ebay for about $30 shipping included. Works well, sturdy.

      • mosinman

        which brand did you get?

        • JaxD

          Triple R. 2 versions available.

          • mosinman

            thanks for the recommendation!

  • Ken

    I thought the Trapdoor and the original M1903 Springfield answered the question about a ramrod bayonet.

    • crackedlenses

      Same here.

  • Pete Sheppard

    I just got a ‘Newsletter’ pop-up with this page, AND…the ‘x’ to close it is conveniently covered by by a ‘Get Notifications’ tab. I DO NOT want either, and neither do I want a large part of the page obscured.

    • Guest on a quest

      Pete, press your escape key. That should terminate the various popups served by TFB.

      • Pete Sheppard

        Thank you!

  • Bob

    Bayonets are amazing tools when it comes to crowd control. The subliminal message it sends is strong. People don’t want to be stabbed or cut. They’ve been stabbed and cut before so they can relate to feeling pain when they see the bayonet.

    Many people have not been shot.

    • Nathan Alred

      And the first time you stab someone during crowd control, your life and the fiscal life of your agency/department is over.

      • Kurt Akemann

        Agreed. Given the modern less-lethal system that are generally available, a bayonet has no place in modern crowd-control operations.

        • Croak

          Modern law enforcement crowd control of domestic population, I agree.

          “Occupying” military crowd control of a native population in a wartime environment, it still has a place.

          • Mazryonh

            I remember hearing that people who served in the “sandbox” mentioned how the locals were not afraid of rifles carried by nearby patrolling coalition forces, but did fear drawn pistols (due to their history of being used in executions) and drawn batons. Fixed bayonets would logically fall into that category of items too.

  • iksnilol

    What happens with these during a rollover?

    • Swarf

      Shish-ke-Bob! And Jim, and Bill…

  • Phillip Cooper

    Somewhere there is an engineer with too much time on his hands.

  • Christian Hedegaard-Schou

    That is absolutely illegal in CA.

    • RICH

      Isn’t ‘everything’ illegal in Kalifornia ? ?

      • Christian Hedegaard-Schou

        Mostly, yeah.

        Oddly enough, Gatling guns and Cannons aren’t.

  • Arie Heath

    Other than crowd control, bayonets are practically useless in modern combat. Also, that thing is massive.

  • lucusloc

    That thing is huge. What it really needs is a QD mount so that you can pouch it until you need it. Otherwise you have, what, a full pound or more of metal hanging off your rails? Also not a fan how the poky bit is not completely covered when stowed. Product needs more refinement to be a viable replacement. And I have not even decided if “viable” needs some heavy air quotes yet.

  • TheNotoriousIUD

    Looks perfect for the next time im attacked by a fruit salad.

  • Edeco

    I don’t want this item, but I could go for an M9 on something. I think they’re still relevant. I know having something hazardous close to my face is demoralizing, especially if not in PPE.

  • Swarf

    That drop-leg goombah from the auto-glove commercial is on the waiting list for one of these, guaranteed.

  • john huscio

    Next up: US military servicewide adoption

  • yukon cornelius

    Have we reached peak tactical?

    • Cymond

      I thought so, but then I saw this.
      Now I wonder if there may be even greater heights not yet imagined.

    • Mazryonh

      There’s never “enough” tacticool.

  • Raginzerker

    That name is as gimmicky as the gadget that bears it

  • Jeffersonian

    Didn’t Chuck Norris use one of these in a movie 30-odd years ago?

    • William Elliott

      I think you’re right…one of the Missing In Action movies..third one. I think it was mounted between the barrel and grenade launcher on a G3 IIRC.

  • BrandonAKsALot

    I won’t lie, it looks as fun as it is dumb.

  • RealitiCzech

    This article is practically malpractice. These bayonets aren’t even slightly suitable for dealing with the increasingly common home invasion by war elephants. You should at least include a disclaimer that these bayonets are only acceptable for humans, kangaroos, and heroin-addicted capuchin monkeys.

    • TJbrena

      Actually, this’ll work great for the pumas that keep breaking into my house.

  • Håvar Eriksen

    There are simpler ways to fix a bayonet to picatinny rails. But if they want to offer a springloaded bayonet blade like this, they should manufacture it as a handguard with the blade integrated inside it. There’s plenty of room inside a handguard for both the blade and the spring mechanism and it wouldn’t add bulk to the system. And if it was a decent handguard, customers could concider shelling out such sums for it.

    • Mazryonh

      I’d like to see some links to the other methods of attaching bayonets to picatinny rails that you know about if you don’t mind.

      One reason I think that this Bayonext wasn’t integrated inside a handguard is that it might have problems with the heat it could absorb from the barrel and possibly the gas tube while firing.

  • Risky

    And now malls across America have never been safer…

  • William Elliott

    didn’t geissle say they weren’t going to produce or sell the clip on bayo mount?

  • Allan

    i can’t believe the author said ” seems like a good way to throw off weight and balance ” with all the tactical tard accessories people put on ar-15 rifles , lights lasers , vertical forgrips, bipods , red dot sight magnifiers, this should sell like hotcakes.

  • Rogertc1

    I used they boynet when I was in the Army more as a utility knife I wore on my web gear. After the M-16 hit the military the bayonet drill [
    is not the same as with the M-14 or Garand. One had a much longer reach and the force of a wood butt stock to crack skulls.

    • Mazryonh

      Sadly, wooden stocks and wooden gun furniture in general aren’t considered “high speed low drag” anymore.

      Speaking of the M1 Garand, most people who are used to modern military rifles would take one look at the old M1 Garand and dismiss it as too heavy at 9 pounds and not user-friendly (due to the fact that it didn’t have modern niceties like an adjustable buttstock and a rail-mounted foregrip to fit different users), little knowing that the 9 pounds helped with the recoil of firing its .30-06 ammunition and even without a bayonet, the size, weight, and leverage of the M1 Garand made it a formidable bludgeon in close combat. Besides, millions of WWII conscripts adapted to the M1 Garand in the field rather than the other way round.

  • sordin

    Wow what a moronic piece of kit. It should go well with your NC star light up 20 x sniper scope
    And rail mounted bottle opener. The current issue bayonet is heavy I can carry another 30rd magazine for the same weight why would I put a knife on my rifle?

    • Mazryonh

      Because usually the bayonet you’re issued is actually a utility knife that can be used for a lot of other things than just stabbing people, and just happens to have the parts needed to be fixed to a rifle.

  • Mazryonh

    Triangular blades may have had their heyday on bayonets, but unless this design doubles as a sawblade, or a brush-clearing machete, or has other non-combat uses, the additional weight is likely going to be a turn-off to potential users. Modern bayonets are nearly always military utility knives that can be attached to a gun barrel, for the reason that they are more likely to be used as utility knives most of the time rather than as melee weapons. Using utility knives as bayonets can cut down on a soldier’s load.

    This Bayonext doesn’t appear to have much in the way of uses outside of stabbing things, and the blade profile doesn’t look like it can cut well either. Still, the swordsmanship community on youtube likes to do test cuts and I’d like to see just how well this Bayonext holds up in cutting test cut targets or meat.

  • Paelorian

    Alright, the first product actually sold that will allow a bayonet and suppressor to be used simultaneously! I hope this isn’t as heavy as it looks like it might be. Bayonet uses may be niche, but I can’t believe how commenters are poo-pooing them. What would Patton say?! Most soldiers carry a knife suitable for fighting quickly accessible, though they highly doubt they’ll ever use it. A bayonet is more lethal than a knife. Being quickly deployable, this could be useful in extreme close quarters if a major malfunction of the weapon occurs. Probably the most practical use of the bayonet today is to kill wounded or dying animals without resorting to shooting them again. It’s often very desirable to keep some distance between yourself and a potentially dangerous wounded beast.

  • Diver6106

    … California politicians immediately envision this being used in every shooting in the state. And immediately outlaw its purchase, ownership, transfer, discussions, pictures, and even thinking about it… Special legislation is proposed…