Verney-Carron Veloce: Almost a Semi-Auto Shotgun

French firearms manufacturer Verney-Carron makes a hunting shotgun called Veloce which features their Stop&Go technology earlier seen in their Speedline family of hunting rifles.

The way the Stop&Go concept works is that after each shot, the bolt cycles back (extracts, ejects, cocks the hammer) and gets caught in its rearmost position. Imagine a bolt hold open mechanism catching the bolt not only when the magazine is empty, but after each and every round fired. After each shot, the shooter has to manually release the bolt using the large thumb actuated lever. So it is a gas operated shotgun, but it only cycles the mechanism halfway.

Why would they need to design such a useless feature? The answer is because of legislation. It is reportedly designed to comply with the restrictive European legislation. Like in the case of featureless AR-15 stocks/grips, bullet buttons and many other ridiculous guns and parts, the designers just had to find a way to comply with the law.

Among other features of Verney-Carron Veloce are the walnut stock, rubber butt pad and 710mm (28″) barrel.

Here is a video by Verney-Carron showing the Veloce shotgun:

So this is like a half semi-auto half manual/repeating action!? It does have a semi-auto mechanism but interrupts the action right after ejection. What do you think is the proper name for such an action?





Hrachya H

Being a lifelong firearms enthusiast, Hrachya always enjoys studying design, technology and history of guns and ammunition. His knowledge of Russian allows him to translate and make Russian/Soviet/Combloc small arms related information available for the English speaking audience.
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  • Mike Fink

    Semi, Semi Auto. Or maybe Thumb-Auto?

    • Giolli Joker

      Dumbed Down Auto.

    • Evan

      Quasi auto.

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  • Joe

    Semi-automatic = self-loading.

    This doesn’t self-load, so it’s a manually operated firearm.

    Ban states need this technology.

  • Sorry, it’s not designed to comply with the “restrictive European legislations”. Even with the new firearms directive, we will still have semi-autos.

    The Veloce is designed to comply with the gun-grabbing will of the French Ministry of Interior, which is a whole another ballpark.

    • neckbone

      Only Muslims get semi auto and full auto rifles though. Weird how that keeps happening.

      • I am not a muslim and I own (legally) several semiauto rifles here in Italy (which was in Europe last time I checked).

        Those included two AK platforms in 7,62×39 and .223, an ARAK-21 and an M4 platform in .223, a magazine-fed 12-gauge AR-styled shotgun, an SMG-style SBR in 9mm, an M1 carbine and a .223 bullpup autoloader of Chinese design.

        This, without mentioning the handguns and manual repeaters (pump guns), and excluding the rimfires.

        Check your facts before talking.

        Just saying.

        • neckbone

          I mean the illegal ones. Last I checked Islam was about to take over Western Europe. Good thing Orban is staying strong and showing how to be a leader for Europe.

          • Last time I checked, the conservatives are lying to you about the state of Europe just as the liberals.

            OOPS, sorry, “Firearms not politics”.

            Whatever. Islam is NOT about to take over western Europe. And Orban is a moron who’s building hundreds of State-owned shooting ranges in Hungary to mandate centralized storage of all privately-owned firearms.

  • Kovacs Jeno

    In many European countries the HUNTING semiauto shotguns’ mag capacity is restricted (usually 2+1), but not the manual operated ones’.

    • In many European Countries, the magazine capacity is restricted to 2+1 for ALL firearms used in hunting, so the working system makes no difference at all. If you get it to hunt, it’s max. 3+1.

      • iksnilol

        Depends where you are. In Norway for instance, manual rifles can have as many rounds during a hunt, whilst a semi auto is limited to 2+1 (IE a Mossberg MVP with a 150 round double drum is legal whilst a Mini-14 with a 10 rounder isn’t).

        • Norway is the only Country I heard of that has that kind of regulations concerning available rounds for hunting, plus Norway is NOT an EU-Member State.

          Mostly everywhere in Europe, it’s 2+1 or 3+1 for hunting. Hunting guns with fixed magazines even come with removable capacity reducers so you can return to the original capacity of 5+1, 6+1 or whatever if you wish to use your gun at the range.

          • iksnilol

            Germany is like that as well IIRC. You are limited in magazine for hunting, but on a range you can have higher capacity magazines.

          • Mostly everywhere in Europe is like that: limited capacity on the hunting ground, unlimited at the range.

            Wrong about Germany, though: in Germany, the type of license you have for your guns dictates the capacity regardless of the use. If you have a gun under a hunting license in Germany, it’s 2+1rounds regardless of whether you use it at the range or for actual hunting.

            And in France, you can not use a detachable magazine firearm for hunting. Over there, hunting autoloaders such as the Browning BAR et al. feature a non fully detachable magazine that’s hinged at the front and pivots open for manual reloading. Also, 2+1 rounds.

          • Kovacs Jeno

            Germany is quite a BIIIG EU country, and there is also the 2+1 rule for semiauto for hunting.

          • Germany has a 2+1 capacity for ALL firearms used in hunting, not just for semiautos.

  • Will

    So the discerning shooter keeps his thumb on the bolt hold-open, right?

    • Some Rabbit

      Probably why they mounted it on the right side, to make that idea more difficult to exploit. I also wouldn’t surprised if there was a disconnector that keeps the gun from firing if that lever is held down continuously.

  • JT303

    We have a very similar technology in the UK for centre-fire rifles. We call it lever-release, and is quite fast in practise, but still gets us around the legislature banning centre-fire semi-autos. The downside for us is the price – a .223 lever release can be had new in a basic ready-to-go form for about £3500.

    • neckbone

      How are y’all enjoying the Muslim invasion over there?

      • Pretty well, considering there’s no real Muslim invasion over here, regardless of what the American conservative media and pundits would want to make you believe. They’re lying about Europe, not unlike the liberals do.

  • it’s just Boris

    Legislated action.

    • QuadGMoto

      Or “Idiot Legislature Action”, but then that’s redundant for your description.

  • AD

    Assisted manual operation?

  • DW

    Assisted loading?
    Same logic as assisted opening knives as opposed to automatic ones

  • Luis

    I seem to recall a design for the UK that required the trigger to be pulled twice. When you fired the rifle, the bolt locked back and pulling the trigger again released the bolt to load another round.

    • Porty1119

      MARS, the iterations I’ve seen were designed for the Vz. 58.

    • iksnilol

      Oh yeah, remember that thing. It was genious, just double tap and it works like a regular rifle.

  • Kelly Jackson

    Honestly it wouldn’t be a bad idea for a semi auto rifle for people stuck in occupied US states.

    Granted I’d love to see more pure pump action .223 rifles, this is a great work around for existing semi auto designs. Espiecally if you someone made the bolt release operatedable from the forearm.

  • Brett baker

    Auto-ejecting bolt.

  • Lawbob

    I think that is how q will get their honey badger legal in California.

  • KidCorporate

    Oh thank G-d, now no terrorists will be able to commit atrocities with fancy shotguns. Maybe THIS will be the law that terrorists obey!?

  • Why aren’t Californians doing this to AR-15s yet?

    • iksnilol

      Because bullet buttons and kydex wrapped grips are so much simpler /sarc

  • Martin törefeldt

    Auto-eject?

  • Porty1119

    I see this being quite popular in Australia.

    • FarmerB

      I think they’d still ban it. After all, pump shotguns are already banned, and they just went into meltdown about a lever action shotgun.

      • iksnilol

        Dude, haven’t you seen the 80’s documentary about an Austrian lever action armed biker terrorist wreaking havoc ?

        • FarmerB

          err nope. Was it an Austrian biker, an Austrian terrorist attack or an Austrian lever action?

  • Kelly Harbeson

    Coitus interruptus

  • Klaus Von Schmitto

    I’ll bet I could fix that in a half an hour.

  • wetcorps

    quarter automatic

    • Chris

      ” Quartermatic ” ?

  • Bal256

    A part of me actually likes all the cool weird stuff that comes from getting around dumb laws.

  • Matt Robinson

    Semisemiauto

  • Peter Nissen

    I wonder if we could get this approved in Australia – Nah! Probably not – it looks too scary for the gun hating media and ban it all Police State mentality local enforcement agencies.

    • James in Australia

      They are trying, along with ,predictably a Turkish knockoff.

    • Tassiebush

      The rifle variation is cat D in Victoria and I’m not sure about other states or territories. Gun control Australia made a specific effort to moan about it.

  • Marcus D.

    I’d much rather have a pump than this gun.

  • jerry young

    Liberal bullshit bring useless restrictions where none are needed, I foresee California, New York and other nanny states making this a new law soon, stupidity coming to you soon from the great overlords who will protect you from the law abiding but deliver you into the open arms of the criminal.

  • Tassiebush

    I can’t go for that (sorry couldn’t not say it because I’ve got that song stuck in my head)

  • Tassiebush

    That’s pretty cool! My first experience of the song was this https://youtu.be/ErkH4K39UrI

  • Goody

    These would have been big in Australia, but they want $4k for them.