A Glock 19M And A Glock 17M Walk Into The Field…

At this point, the upper management at Glock is just messing with all of us. Like a magic fairy sprinkling pixie dust across America, Glock 19M and 17M pistols have been appearing at greater frequencies. However, without a commercial release date commitment, I guess us Polymer lovers have nothing else to do but fawn over the newest pictures.

These two M examples have recently joined the ‘Protect and Serve’ ranks at an anonymous law enforcement agency within the Homeland. All the owner is willing to share at the moment is that they are very happy with the new guns and haven’t experienced any failures or stoppages.

All the previously known 17M and 19M artifacts still exist: the beveled slide, smooth trigger face, fingergroove-less grip, flared magwell and integrated electronic targeting system. Fine, I meant to say G43-style trigger group and ambidextrous controls. Forget I mentioned the super secret ETS, it will just frustrate you to not know more at this stage of development.

So, Glock leadership, my contact information is listed below. You know, if you decide that you’d like to add a last minute beta tester to your ranks. I’ll sacrifice myself in the name of scientific study. Also, finger grooves aren’t my thing, baby.

Glock 19M and 17M:

Glock 17M 19M

Glock 19M


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  • Gun Fu Guru

    If it only had a full 1913 rail.

    • Rnasser Rnasser

      Why? the glock rail works very well, is smaller and have less sharp edges.

      • Gun Fu Guru

        A complete rail will [1] get rid of the pig nose and [2] keep the accessory from pointing up.

  • Treiz

    Two Glocks I would actually consider buying, guess they just don’t like money or something…

    • Sunshine_Shooter

      They are just drumming up the hype so when they do get released, they’ll sell out.

      • Treiz

        Too bad that strategy didn’t work for them against the P320, lol, obviously the army was not hyped.

        • Slab Rankle

          There was no strategy. Army wanted modular.

          • Flounder

            I think it was more, Sig took glock’s asking price and halved it.

          • Feed the Troll

            Half the gun for half the price. Seems reasonable.

          • valorius

            More gun for half the price. Sig wins.

          • pun&gun

            I really want to shoot one eventually to compare for myself. The only Sig pistols I’ve fired were a P238 and P229.

          • Stuki Moi

            Doesn’t the army pay over $200 for each Sig? If Glock is not budging below $400 for departmental orders these days; they’ll sell exactly zero pistols to any of them ………

            Heck, Glock could well have made an accounting profit selling for half of what Sig got the contract for. Such is the fine-honedness of Gaston’s well oiled machine.

            But if some Sig rep managed to convince the brass, they needed “modular” for whatever reason…..

            Regardless, it’s not as if any of the polystrikers are all that different anymore, anyways. At least not for a big departmental order like this, where the buyers don’t see the kind of benefit from a massive aftermarket in everything, that civilians do.

          • Flounder

            A general testified to congress that socom gets glocks for 300 something. 340$- 380$ a pistol. And considering the MSRP is still over 600 that is abought half. also glock “partnered” with someone for the trial as in glock didnt even bother showing up i am not surprised sig won.

            Tfb claims to have a source saying it was 207$ or so. Not halving the price. But still cutting off glocks legs. And maybe something else too.

            Sig brought their A game and an amazing price, possibly a loss. Glock said eh and didnt bring any game. But went ahead and let some fanboy dealer try and make money. (Okay, not fair to whoever tried, but still! No official company rep in possibly
            As for modular. Even the writers here cant quite agree what it means. It is probably a great idea with solid reasoning. Or started that way. and a dozen other people added things to it and screwed It into a monstrocity.

          • Treiz

            Yeah, I can’t wait to see how well that works out with logistics.

          • valorius

            Army wanted ambidextrous safeties.

  • And still no one gave a crap.

    • Major Tom

      Especially since Glock is old hat now that the MHS is settled.

      • john huscio

        Until the Exeter products sh”t the bed.

        • Just my opinion

          I am thoroughly anti Glock (CZ fanboy ftw!) but holy sheeeit are you right. My cut off line for Sig ownership begins at those subpar pieces from NH. If the Sig wasn’t hearing German during it’s making, count me out.

          • Because the Germans gave us the “excellent” P250, and the P220 Stainless slide internal extractor.

          • Just my opinion

            I didn’t say German production was full proof. However, Sig had a better reputation before US production came along. And the P250 was manufactured in Nh! Design and execution thereof are two different things. Although I don’t think the P250 was great anyway. This all comes from the country that struggles to make even serviceable AKs! Sig ls from Nh are being sued because they couldn’t sell Nj a pistol that can run Speer lawman tmj. It is of note that Sig never blamed training of Njsp, they blamed ammo. I can’t take serious a manufacturer who claims lawman is bad ammo and nit the faukt of their service pistol. Dudes in caves in Pakistan do with hand tools and scrap metal what US companies struggle to do with top of the line cnc machines. It isn’t like Americans have some reputation for exquisite craftsmanship and qc, but the Germans and Swiss generally do, hence a rather large preference for pre US manufacture Sigs.

          • So American made is bad? Quite a few Glocks being delivered today are American made.

            The P250 was a German design and it was a piss poor design at that. The same can be said with a ton of German ideas like the mud rails, et al. You talk to people actually involved with SIG back then SIG had issues crop up every once in a while too even when the German dwarves were the only ones making guns.

            We don’t know the truth behind the NJSP, and we probably won’t until it goes to trail. At this point it is he said/she said along with a ton of rumors.

          • Kurt Ingalls

            LOL……yes you did……. 🙂

          • john huscio

            Michigan state troopers dumped sig for glock a year or two back as did the Ontario provincial police a couple weeks ago…..new G17s all around……..apparently the Philippines national police went glock as well………the only non American contract the p320 has thus far managed to secure is the Thai royal police, admittedly a pretty big contract.

          • john huscio

            I slways thought The p250 was a product of the American wing of sig….

          • Nope, the 250 was a German design. The whole modular concept is due to European gun laws that often limit the number of guns that you can own easily. Thus having one serial number and a dozen configurations is a big deal there.

          • DJ9r

            In some countries, the BARREL is the “gun”. Which is why many EU gun makers put the serial number on several parts — to cover all the bases.

          • richard kluesek

            and in places like New York.

        • valorius

          The products from Exeter that performed the best in the trials tests?

          • john huscio

            Out of a sample of how many?

          • valorius

            Out of a sample of the same amount used by every other company. US military trials are usually extremely exhaustive.

      • Treiz

        “settled” wouldn’t be the first time something was settled until it wasn’t. Will wait and see once they start hitting hands.

    • Some Rabbit

      Seriously, Glock BFD, now with more cowbell.

    • Nicks87

      And still… I will probably buy one when they hit blue label retailers. Maybe they will be blue label only and all you civilians can suck a fat one! ///Jk 😉

      • Just my opinion

        Civilians? Well that term also includes the give away participants in Glock’s “blue program”. I know cop worshipers have tried to extend the definition over the years to include LE. But classically, civilians were anyone who wasn’t an active member within the military. For LE to honestly meet the classic definition, it would require some type of police state.

        • valorius

          the CIVILIAN police are the CIVILIAN AUTHORITY. Any military vet knows this. (i’m agreeing with you, just to be clear)

        • Nicks87

          Well, I’m a vet and a cop so I think I earned the right to call people civilians. By the way:

          ci·vil·ian
          səˈvilyən
          noun
          1.
          a person not in the armed services or the police force.
          synonyms: noncombatant, nonmilitary person, ordinary citizen, private citizen; informalcivvy
          “family members and other civilians were quickly evacuated from the post”

          Google is your friend.

          • Nicks87

            I would even include fire-fighters and EMTs as non-civilians.

      • valorius

        cops are civilians.

        • Nicks87

          It was a joke, snowflake.

          • valorius

            booo hooo hooo! he called me snowflake!

          • McThag

            Jokes are funny.

  • Mmmtacos

    Someone tell Gaston to slap the front serrated slide on the frame of the 19M and presto: you have the Glock people want.

    But that would make too much sense, so they won’t do it.

    • Something

      No, like the 43, which people were asking about for at least 7 years before it was released, we’ll see the 17 or 19MFS models in 5-10 years.

  • mdh1776

    It looks as though these have a finish similar to the ‘frying pan’ finish of older pistols.

    • Ken

      That was my first thought as well, but was wondering if the slide might just be oiled. I guess enough people complained about the color coming off too easily from the salt bath nitride finish they use currently, even though the nitride case hardened layer remained underneath.

  • Just my opinion

    How revolutionary! How could we ever survive without the constant design changes and innovation from Glock? Jokes aside, will they ever actually introduce a legitimately new pistol? It seems they are determined to mirror Remington with the 700 by resting on the laurels of one classic design until they are surpassed by competitors interested in innovating superior arms designs.

    • While I agree with the sentiment, I’ve thought long and hard about it and I’m not sure what I’d want in a handgun beyond the basic Glock design, besides add-ons. The current stuff from Glock, S&W, SIG, etc all seem pretty darn good.

      • Sermon 7.62
        • Diacleatian

          What is that?

        • Just my opinion

          I sure do. I always thought the styer m series to look sexy. This looks like a more robust gun with the same attractive grip angles.

          • Sermon 7.62

            That’s right. This one looks kind of that one but seems more elaborate, and has more ergonomic controls and features. Someone said it looks “futuristic”.

          • valorius

            That would be me. It looks like something robocop would carry.

        • john huscio

          Nope, Russian crapgun.

        • valorius

          Lust? No. But i do like it.

        • pun&gun

          Stop it. You’re making me more bitter about those sanctions.

      • Just my opinion

        They are serviceable weapons, no question. I just have trouble seeing minor revisions as some sort of second coming that some of out nearly non shooting tacticool friends always claim.

      • John

        If I’m in a bad situation where I need a gun, then all I want from my gun is that it be loaded and work.

        But for 90% of reality where my life isn’t threatened, I’ll play pretty-pretty princess with a 1911, thank you very much.

        • pun&gun

          I think a lot of the market’s love for Glocks revolves around the ability to do that without paying a gunsmith. There’s a lot of parts that are easily swapped out by the user.

        • Lucas

          There always has to be at least one.

      • valorius

        An ambidextrous safety, or a legit DAO trigger a la Kahr. A decocker.
        You seem to have not thought very long or hard. 😉

    • They will once their back orders get below ridiculous levels. IIRC someone reported that Glock has a half a million in pending orders.

      • valorius

        How is that so, when every gun store ive ever walked into in the past 20 years has tons of them sitting in the cases.

        • Because they move so much product. Those stores probably place an order for several Glocks a week.

          • valorius

            They move so much product that the shelves are always stocked full of Glocks. Just sayin’

          • john huscio

            Efficient supply chain. The stores get new guns in just as fast as they sell em

          • Big Daddy

            They do and have to wait for those deliveries, my friend owns a Glock only blue label store. People do not know how many countries use them for their police and military. The people here so many times think it’s all about the USA. The .380 versions of the bigger Glocks as well as the 45 GAP sell outside the USA very well.

        • Robert Kruckman

          Where do U shop?

          • valorius

            Philly area.

      • CavScout

        It’s a Browning design. All Glock brought to the table was the plastic and implementation.

    • Avid Fan

      Glock is happily selling buggy whips that people relish turning into functional automobiles all while hailing their perfection.

      • pun&gun

        I don’t know anyone personally who both loves to customize Glocks and thinks they’re perfect out of the box.

      • Kivaari

        You mean like the wonderful M1911. I’ll take a stock Glock anyday.

        • Avid Fan

          Well, they both work very well in stock form. I just prefer other guns over the Glocks.

      • john huscio

        Some people are aftermarket feinds. Their addicted to adding all kinds of stupid sh*t to their guns….they do it to all kinds of pistols, 1911s, m&ps, ect.

      • Lucas

        All I have done to my 17 G4 is swap the mag release, the rear cover plate, and add Trijicon HD night sights. It is a fully serviceable firearm with 0 reliability issues that were the gun’s fault.

  • Slab Rankle

    Glock 34M with frying pan finish.

    Sign me up!

  • Hoplopfheil

    If I could get a GLOCK 19M I would strongly consider it.

    But I’m also considering trying to get a Gen 2 frame. Those look cooler anyway.

    • Or you could get a Lone Wolf Timberwolf frame.

      • Stuki Moi

        Or a real gun. One with a real hammer, and which is not made from leftovers from the manufacture of Barbie dolls…… 🙂

        • Hoplopfheil

          As James puts it… “recycled tennis shoes and ocean plastic.”

      • Hoplopfheil

        Gross.

  • JoelC

    Ok, so other than removal of finger grooves, I’ve still yet to hear how this is an upgrade over Gen 4.

    • Anonymoose

      Other than the finger grooves, everything else is a downgrade.

      • Ken

        Yeah, I still don’t understand why they’re returning to a two pin frame.

    • john huscio

      Ambi everything. Conventional rifling, redesigned internals. On the surface it looks the same as the other gens (minus the Finger grooves and squared off muzzle) underneath, its a different gun.

  • Anonymoose

    Bring back the other pin and the polygonal barrel, add forward cocking serrations and steel sights as standard, and put C cuts and MOS cuts on the same slide for a higher-level model, and that should be they release as the Gen5!

    • Flounder

      I have never been a fan of straight up holes in the slide. It just kinda bugs me.

      But everything else you say is GOLDEN! But Glock will never provide a nice product like that! It would eat their margin.

  • Scott Tuttle

    glock is becoming the apple iphone of pistols.

    • Sunshine_Shooter

      I’d write that analogy backwards, considering Glock has been releasing new versions of the same gun since the mid-80s and dominating the market. If anything, Apple is running the Glock marketing strategy.

      • Just my opinion

        The same marketing strategy of giving products away to create a future user base, resulting in insane fanboys. Compare Apple’s mass donation of computers to schools in the 90s to Glock’s nearly givng away pistols to the LE market. Both programs stem from the same thought process.

  • Michael R. Zupcak

    Glock always wants some credit for some shit they’re just supposed to do. Glock will brag about things a normal gun company just does. Glock will say something like “we offer our pistols with front cocking serrations.” You’re supposed to, you dumb ————- “We have new models without finger grooves” What you want, a cookie? You’re not supposed to decide where the shooters fingers go, you low-expectation-havin———————-

    • Watch the language man—-

      • Beju

    • john huscio

      Not everyone gives a flying @#$k about front cooking serrations….HKs are the only guns that have forward serrations that are aesthetically pleasing anyway.

  • valorius

    2 glock M’s walk into a military procurement contest. Neither one has a safety, both are asked to leave immediately.

  • valorius

    I can see exactly nothing that’s new or innovative about these handguns that would get anyone excited.

  • LL1684L2

    Observation: The pictured 17M has standard Glock sights, not the alleged FBI-issued Ameriglo sights, which the pictured 19M seems to have.

  • Robert Kruckman

    Would U look at this the Ms have only one pin for the trigger. I was feeling left out cause my 1992 mdl 19 only has one pin. Apparently the second pin was not needed on these weaker calibers!!!!! Any my old 19 has many rounds through it and NEVER miscued. I carried on duty for many years. I own 5 Glocks and love them all!!!

  • Martin frank

    Bro im so fawning over those pictures of the exact same gun i’ve been looking at for the last 33 years…. Sorry i meant Yawning.

  • SpartacusKhan

    and one guy get shot in both legs

    • john huscio

      1994 called, it wants it’s joke back.

  • jpcmt

    You’d think they’d see what everyone is doing to glocks, see the popular aftermarket ‘upgrades’ done to their ‘perfect’ glock and follow suit. The flared magwell and lost fingergrooves are a great start. Enlarged controls, better grip surfacing, better undercut on the trigger guard, redo the iconic triggerguard to what people like, steel sights, slide cut improvements/additions up front, etc.

    • Bronson

      Or they can continue to keep their production efficient and sell a base model that everyone can customize how they want.

  • bthomas

    Good looking pistols! Perfection! What’s not to like?

  • survivor50

    I have yet to see a ” STOCK ” Glock…