Top 5 Most Overrated Handguns

In this extra-salty episode of TFBTV, James calls out five pistols that he thinks are extremely overrated. Unlike James’ Top 5 Most Overrated CCW Pistols video, James calls all of these out by make and model rather than category. A few facts and hints about the list – can you guess the guns?

  1. One of these guns is a Brazilian revolver.
  2. Overrated =/= Bad.
  3. This list contains three overpriced German handguns.
  4. Two of the German guns are from the same manufacturer.
  5. This list contains one of the most cloned handguns of all time.
  6. James likes has owned 4 out of 5 of these guns.
  7. One of the German guns is only available in a polymer frame.
  8. Three of these guns are available in 9mm.
  9. Patrick has done a video about at least one of these guns.

Any guesses before the video starts?

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James Reeves

• NRA-licensed concealed weapons instructor, 2012-present
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  • James Earl Jones

    Moar. Shoarts.

  • USMC03Vet

    I would have replaced The Judge with the Beretta M9.

    • Close calls were the Beretta 92, FN 5-7, and Deagle.

      • Dougscamo

        Da Judge HAD to be in there!

      • Anonymoose

        Does anyone really even give a single about the Five-seveN anymore?
        Also, Berettas aren’t nearly as overrated as Glocks and 1911s. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5fe5d046724d069b4e37f3156571ef0e9702f8afb8fee7d6052fa8046c1877ba.jpg

      • valorius

        I personally think the Five SeveN is under rated. It is DEFINITELY over-priced though.

      • Kulibin762

        DE is laser accurate and versatile hunting platform and it excels at this niche. No other automatic can touch it.

        • Paul White

          bah. I like them, but I’d never pay remotely near MSRP for one. Fun as hell to shoot on someone else’s dime though

      • John

        Why the Beretta 92 by the way. For the most part, aside from the newbies who like it for aesthetic/movie appeal, I find that people only have contempt for the handgun, with main complaints being the large grip and excessive size for a 9mm.

      • SPQR9

        The FN 57 should have made the list.

    • Don Ward
    • valorius

      If this were the 1990’s i’d agree. Still, the judge does not belong because no one rates that highly.

      • Nashvone

        You should go to a range in rural Tennessee. You lay out the entire snake gun line up and no one would look twice. However, if you pull out a Judge, people will be offering up their sister’s favors for the chance to shoot it.

        • valorius

          I sense that somewhere in Tennessee Hickok45 just cringed.

          • Nashvone

            If I’ve seen it, he’s seen it.

  • Audie Bakerson

    600 bucks for a CZ-75? What? You can pick up high condition surplus ones for what… high 300s?

    • DW

      It’s true, for a new CZ75B it really cost~600 nowadays. We’d always remembered the time it cost ~450 new.
      Still, his critics is true only for that model,the newer improved models (P01/P07/P09,etc)addressed many if not all of his criticisms of the original CZ75B,and doesn’t cost ~600.

      • Audie Bakerson

        I know a new one will be 600, but this is a gun that is so common as surplus it really should be the default.

  • Taylor Bosch

    Text Version:

    5. HK USP
    4. CZ 75
    3. HK P7
    2. Taurus Judge
    1. Walther PPK

    • it’s just Boris

      Thank you. Since the transcripts never seem to appear in a timely (enough for me to bother reading them) fashion.

    • TheUnspoken

      I would have expected the Mark 23 instead of usp, if overrated means crazy expensive. But then Colt Python would probably earn a place too.

      • Certainly a factor, but not determinative. That said, “Top 5 Most Overpriced Handguns” would be fun. Salient anything, Mark 23, Sphinx, Beretta, USP and P7 probably make another appearance…

        • Gun Fu Guru

          At least with Mk23, you get what you pay for: the most reliable firearm in history.

          • And during navel ops it also doubles as a boat anchor.

          • valorius

            Navel ops 😀

          • Well it can either be “Stupid phone” or “She had a cute belly button.” A mental version of a choose your own adventure book.

          • izhmash

            underrated comment

          • ozzallos .

            Cha-Cha-Cha!

          • No one

            Wow, I didn’t realize there’should still people who actually believed this garbage.

        • SpartacusKhan

          The Sphinx isn’t overpriced at all for the excellent precision machining you get.

          • I had a couple of the 2000 series, I think the same of them as I do the P7: High quality, but diminishing returns in terms of cost to performance.

          • TheUnspoken

            The USP for what it was at the time in the 90s (a military/LE duty, service weapon) was reliable, low recoil, modular in terms of switching right left hand or trigger features/safety/decocker, and of course rails weren’t as common or standard.

            I think it still makes a great suppressor host, and I like the larger size, this list wasn’t for CCW. The USP had various contracts for mil/le, but even HK has moved along with p2000, HK45, p30, and SFP/VP guns. So why still make the USP? California is one major reason, with several recent releases targeting that market specifically, such as the new stainless compacts, elites, experts, and gray USP 45. They can’t sell the newer guns, so releasing Cali specific USP models is a smart move. And they can’t significantly modify the gun or it will be considered a new model and can’t be added to the roster without micro stamping etc.

          • jonp

            HK’s work but the main problem is that many others do for 1/2 the price.

          • supergun

            H&K is highly accurate. Well made. And many guns cost a lot more and do the same thing. I am talking about the H&K USP 45 tactical.

          • jonp

            Me too. I’m not talking about quality as HK’s are great but others for much less work just as good. Your paying for the name at this point. If you want to that’s fine. Go ahead and knock yourself out.

          • supergun

            The higher price guns are generally more accurate. Case after case shows the H&Ks more accurate than more guns that cost twice as much. Just like a BMW is faster, quieter, better handling, more beautiful, and just plain ass bad than a chevolet or ford…. If anything, the list should have included the Night Hawks, Wilsons, etc . They cost upwards $4,000 but shoots accurately like a H&K. Also the reliability factor is important, especially when your life depends upon it. It is easier to hide that Walter PK than it is a Taurus 92. Why do you think they use the CZs in a lot of the movies. Because they had the lowest misfires of all pistols. This is especially important in semi-autos. But if you prefer a hi-point, I won’t lose any sleep over that.

          • jonp

            In a handgun just how accurate do you need to be?

          • supergun

            I like to be able to hit bulls eye at 100 yards. By the way, that was a great liberal question you asked me.

          • jonp

            ? Huh? Id like to hit black at 100yrds too. I can once in awhile but for a defensive handgun pretty much not needed.

          • supergun

            I had a friend that was hunting in a deer stand. Over a hundred yards away someone shot at him. He took out his pistol and shot the guy to death. Police said it was self defense. I bet he would disagree with you on it not being needed. We may never need to defend our lives, but if it happens, I want a gun that is very accurate and reliable. And if it cost $200 – $500 more than the cheap ones, I am going to own them.

          • jonp

            That is one silly scenario to base your view on.

          • Thanks for the comment: Don’t get me wrong, I like the USP, but if we are talking about “what it was at the time,” remember that the Glock came out seven years earlier. So it isn’t as if the USP has been rendered obsolete because of newer polymer guns, it just remains expensive and hasn’t evolved like the Glock has.

      • I agree the Mk23 has more uber hype behind it.

      • Adam D.

        Both the Python and the King Cobra are fantastic guns.
        The trigger and hammer are like clockwork on them, they even sound like it! They’re like nothing I’ve ever held before in the realm of revolvers. (Although I’ve never had the luck to check out a Korth or a Manurhin.)
        Before handling them in person, I’d thought the same as you.
        “Now I’m a different man”. :))
        They’re not fairy dust, but I get the gist why they are considered as fantastic revolvers.

    • El Duderino

      I don’t think the CZ75 is overrated. With the wrong finish or slide serrations it’s a tough one to cycle though.

      P7 is overrated but I still want a nickel one with the Nill wood grips.

      • valorius
        • Anonymoose

          >Burris
          >not Trijicon, Aimpoint, or Docter
          YOU HAVE BOUGHT SHAME ON THE HOUSE OF WELDLE!

          • valorius

            Hey, it werx. I’m a results oriented type dude. 😉

          • John Yossarian

            Trijicon, Docter or Leupold DeltaPoint – Aimpoint is too large

          • PaulWVa

            Meh….I’ll stick with two eyes and a fiber optic front sight….the rest is mostly window dressing.

      • valorius
      • Hoplopfheil

        I liked the idea of reversed slide rails until I got a Beretta 9000s.

        Miserable gun to operate. Especially in .40.

        But it wasn’t that bad with my M-43 Firestar. Better shape and size.

        • mikewest007

          Damn. I managed to forget that the 9000 even existed…

          • Hoplopfheil

            I try to do that too, most of the time.

      • Devil_Doc

        The CZ 75 is a beautiful gun for it’s time. I agree that it has been eclipsed by modern designs, but that doesn’t diminish what it is. Also, slide inside frame works on other guns, like the CZ P09. I have no complaints about slide manipulation on mine. My only beef is the stock trigger. Longer than War And Peace in single action…

    • valorius

      The author is clearly a moron. The P7 should be on a list of 5 best handguns ever.

      • Out of the Blue

        Remember Alex C’s guns with a cult following video? With the subliminal messaging?

    • iksnilol

      “Cz 75”

      U wot m8? THAT’S IT, JAMES, YOU’VE GONE TO FAR. WE CAN ONLY SOLVE THIS WITH A SHIRTLESS WRESTLING MATCH (preferably in a grease pool).

      • Hoplopfheil

        Nice try!

      • jonp

        Ummmmm….put down the Jaeger

        • iksnilol

          NEVER, ONLY A COWARD WRESTLES SHIRTED AND SOBER!

          AD VICTORIAM!

      • Devil_Doc

        And James Reeves approved silky short shorts…

    • jerry young

      1. Glock
      2. Glock
      3. Glock
      4. Glock
      5. Glock
      I guess it’s plain to see I’m not a Glock fan

    • candiduscorvus

      Thank you so much. I just wanted to see what his list was. I wasn’t interested in his subjective reasons.

  • Audie Bakerson

    No Desert Eagle?
    600 bucks for a CZ-75? What? You can pick up high condition surplus ones for what… high 300s?

    • Darren

      New P01s can be had for 450 from KYGunCo if you wait for a sale. Compact size with aluminum frame and a rail.

  • Adam D.

    Nice video James, really liked it! 🙂
    I miss a few honorable mentions though, like the MK 23, Smith .500/460 revolvers, the Luger, the Broomhandle, and of course: where’s the Desert Eagle?? 🙂
    Talk about a shitty gun…

    USMC03Vet’s suggestion (Beretta 92) is also worth considering.
    I don’t know whose idea was to put the safety right behind the cocking serrations,
    but he never racked the freaking thing, that’s for sure.

    • Anonymoose

      Walther and S&W want their safety back, Beretta!

    • valorius

      The broomhandle? How is that over-rated?

    • Paul White

      Luger and broomhandles aren’t overrated. They’re historically significant designs that people appreciate for their influence and innovation but no one that’s remotely sane thinks they’re still relevant as actual useful guns.

      • Adam D.

        Well, it’s a subjective, fun to talk about topic, not a dead serious argument.
        This is my two cents on it.
        I, for one think that people tend to consider the C96 and the P08 to be way better guns than what they are, just because they are historically significant. It’s not about modern relevance of course.
        I’ve got some experience with the guns I’ve mentioned and this is what I think of them.
        Of course, we can find logical pros and cons with all of them, just like James hinted in the video, but this topic is more about fun. 🙂

      • Devil_Doc

        I don’t know that the Luger couldn’t still be a relevant or useful gun. It’s limited really only by capacity, and that either a) the guns are too valuable to shoot, or b) replacement parts are hard to find and fit to individual guns.

  • Joel

    Nice vid.
    Abercrombie run out of children’s t shirts?

  • Maxpwr

    CZ 75 overrated? He doesn’t like it because it is heavy? Awww that’s so cute….him just a widdle guy. Very accurate. So overrated that it’s been copied by so many manufacturers because it is such a bad design. The others on the list I agree with, but to each his own.

    • Reef Blastbody

      Yeah, that was hint #5 “This list contains one of the most cloned handguns of all time.”

      I’m guessing he hasn’t handled any CZs manufactured in the last 20 years, since they’re melonited/tenifered/whatever. The painted on finish is found on the surplus guns.

      • Maxpwr

        Big McLargeHuge

        Yes, the Polycoat they have now is much better than the old surplus guns. Not quite as good as Glock finish for durability, but I’ve had a CZ75B for 15 years and barely any worse for the wear.

      • Paul White

        Yeah, I put a few thousand rounds through mine before giving up (I couldn’t hit for anything with it for some reason) and while I didn’t like shooting it, it was reliable as hell, and the finish held up really well.

        The slavophiles are still annoying about how they’re the best gun EVAR though

        • SpartacusKhan

          They’re right.

    • Bsss

      I guess Cz hasn’t gotten the memo. They’ve been to busy winning matches, being the most issued military pistol in the world, and probably the second most cloned pistol after the 1911. So unreliable? Guess he didn’t watch any P01 torture tests? Overrated is Glock to a tee. It isn’t hard to have such a Le market share when most of thoae guys do good to know which end is the business end. Hell Glock practically givea pistols away to LE. They used the same model as Apple did in the 1990s by giving equipment away to create a future user/customer base. I’ve never seen Glock do anything special. Such a great pistol, yet such a thriving after market of replacement parts?? A Cz 75 will smoke a Glock rd for rd in accuracy, while being reliable, ergonomic, and beautiful. Didnt MAC Youtube channel just show a P07 being the second best finishing gun he ever torture tested?

      • SpartacusKhan

        ^So much THIS!^

    • You could say the same about the 1911. Both of them are showing their age in their original form, but yes, they’ve both found new life as tournament guns. Wouldn’t a “widdle guy” (baby talk? Seriously? c’mon man) like me want heavier to sap up that devastating 9mm recoil anyways?

      • Moondo

        twist, twist, twist, James you nipple twister, you….

      • Maxpwr

        Yeah, I’m sure you can handle it. My “widdle guy” comment is a funny line from Tommy Boy and you’re not a little guy so the comment was double funny, but to make weight a criteria makes little sense in whether something is overrated or not as a pistol most people will take to the range or carry in a holster and not for CCW, either. I also wouldn’t say you could say that my comments are the same about the 1911 though. Copied yes, but no where near as out-of-the-box accurate as a factory CZ75. In my opinion overrated would apply to the 1911 long before the CZ. 1911s are copied for sentimental value and because they have controls some people like. CZs were copied because they were reliable and accurate. Good video.

      • Dave Buck

        I will take a 1911, Browning HP or a CZ 75 over a Glock any day. I always wanted a P7, but could never afford one. You probably like the Steyr AUG too, don’t you? I was thrilled to bits when we announced the Steyr was going the way of the dodo, being replaced by an AR. Equally, I was disgusted to learn the replacement for the P226 was that awful Glock thing. I woudn’t give a plastic fantastic house room. You like them? You can keep them.

      • civilianaf

        James, congratulations on breaking the internet.

    • Stuki Moi

      Overrated doesn’t mean not good. Think 6.5×55………..

      Over the past some years, I’d agree all things CZ has become overrated. Doesn’t mean they aren’t perfectly fine guns (The P07 is my favorite DA/SA gun, at least for range and SHTF use). But the way people “on the waiting list” talk about them these days, you’d think they were some mythical creatures operating at a level above even Gaston’s most far out delusions of grandeur.

      • Maxpwr

        Who overrates the 6.5×55? Yes, it’s a good cartridge but hardly anyone in the US even makes that caliber rifle or even loads factory ammo for it anymore. Have you seen an article written in the last 10 years that somehow says the 6.5×55 is the be-all, end-all? 6.5×55 is only overrated because someone does a search for it and Google says they use it for Moose in Sweden and so if you stop reading there you think it’s the greatest cartridge ever. When you go on to read about it you find it’s a good cartridge, but there are better. Not just a matter of opinion, but proven ballistics show there are better. Doesn’t fit the definition of overrated. Love my P07 and P09 as well.

      • mazkact

        More like the most underated cartridge of all time. 6.5×55 was cool way before 6.5 was cool.

    • ShooterPatBob

      Don’t get me wrong; I love Cz. But they were originally copied so much because they could not be imported from the Soviet Union. Many new Turkish copies today, though.

  • No one

    SIG P226.

    There I said it.

  • TheNotoriousIUD
    • Don Ward

      Oh yeah? I didn’t HAVE a girlfriend in high school. So the jokes on YOU!

      Wait…

    • Anonymoose

      My girlfriend in sophomore year was a DD, but the A-cup put out so I ended up with her for 2 years, then traded her in for a D-cup.

  • TheNotoriousIUD

    I sold my PPK because after 50 rds the web of my thumb was bleeding.

  • Edeco

    CZ75?! You got to be fuller than a tick on stump liquor. Weighs less than a 1911, assault capacity clip, outside rails, highly influential… boring maybe, but unless there are more being made and sold than 1911’s I wouldn’t say overrated.

    • ostiariusalpha

      If you want a CZ-75 for more than just nostalgia or snob points, then get a P-07 or P-09.

      • Edeco

        I have a Baby Eagle (Jericho with extra reading material). I love the bulge on the grip. I like the trigger better than a Sig SRT.

        Anyway, the slide gripping area is fine, small price to pay for having the rails on the outside. Extremely clean lines are a bonus. $500 or 600 for steel frame, meh, a high end polymer goes for that much.

        A large ejection hole shouldn’t be needed for the spent bullet shell if it runs consistently.

    • Gotta throw a curve at #4. I always try to push myself into a controversial pick for #4.

      • andrey kireev

        if you wanted to throw a curveball, should have called out Glock for being over-rated.

        • IMO the Glock is more practical and a better value for the $. If we are talking street price on NIB guns, it’s also less expensive. The only other thing I might have curved into #4 would have been to pick a rando, high end 1911. Probably Kimber.

          • valorius

            $ has nothing to do with being over rated though, that’s another whole discussion.

            A Ferrari F50 is unquestionably overpriced, but it is most definitely not over-rated.

          • andrey kireev

            Sure it’s practical, but Isn’t it over-rated ? I mean, some people talk about glocks, like they are the only guns that should exist, and if you dont like glock you’re wrong… sure in 80’s glocks were revolutionary, but these days there are plenty guns that can do exact same thing. Not bashing on glocks (i have 4 of them) but in my opinion they are definitely over-rated for what they are.

          • ShooterPatBob

            Valid points, but only more practical for certain applications. For home defense or target shooting, I like steel. For carry, I prefer a plastic fantastic.

      • Edeco

        There’s controversial (i.e. the US should have stayed out of WWI) and then there’s just wrong like “585nm wavelength light is blue”…

  • Dr. Longfellow Buchenrad

    Somewhere in the world Alex just felt a disturbance in the force.

    • Devil_Doc

      EXACTLY what I thought… Lol.

  • makeintosch

    Colt 1911, maybe?

    • ostiariusalpha

      Wilson 1911… absolutely.

      • lol it’s like you guys have never heard of Kimber before

        • ostiariusalpha

          I guess someone out there must be a fan and think Kimber should be highly rated, but I’ve never spoken to one. Their dead, soulless eyes might have put off starting a conversation in the first place.

          • Anonymoose

            Talk to an employee at Cabelas or Basspro. They may not own or shoot any guns, and use a crossbow or (borrowed) Rem700 to hunt durr, but they sure think Kimber is the best, most-awesomest pistol out there.

          • Cymond

            Gotta admit, they shur is purdy sittin on the coffee table.

        • Anonymoose

          or SIG 1911s, and Cabots.

      • valorius

        And anything kimber.

  • Don Ward

    In the case of The Judge, doesn’t something have to be held in high regard before it can be labeled “Overrated”?

    • ostiariusalpha

      No, it’s overrated even for its low reputation.

    • Marc

      I think we’d be shocked at how many Judges have been sold; I mean redneck machines. Hahaha.
      I gonna say that about a thousand times this weekend.

      • Christian Hedegaard-Schou

        I’ve seriously thought about picking up a judge mostly because A.) I moved from CA where it was flat-out illegal and B.) As a gun you don’t take seriously, but just enjoy shooting stupid things out of it, I think it would be fun to have.

        But then I think about all the people I’ve met who believe it’s literally the second coming of jesus and john moses browning together to birth the greatest self defense pistol known to man. Also, something “hurr durr sneks”.

        • Anomanom

          The only Judge I ever wanted was the Raging Judge 513, because it’s 45 colt/.410 gauge/.454 casull in a gigantic hand cannon with a 3 inch barrel

  • BravoSeven

    I miss New Orleans.

  • Brick

    Huh. I thought the Desert Eagle would land a spot.

    • Deagle and Judge are similar except that Deagle owners actually realize that they bought a novelty.

      • valorius

        Deagle absolutely should be on the list.

        • Anonymoose

          Only in .50AE.

          • valorius

            Besides impressing your fellow steroid addled gym buddies, what purpose does a deagle have at all? Definitely belongs on the list. 😀

          • roguetechie

            I actually had a friend who was a very large person, and owned a deagle in 50ae which he occasionally carried concealed somehow.

            I’m still convinced he knew some freaky gun shrinking magic trick.

            He was a very large individual though!

            How large?

            The deagle looked pretty normal in his hand, THAT LARGE

  • Gun Fu Guru

    This isn’t a fair discussion. You are comparing old designs (CZ75, HK USP, HK P7, and Walther PPK) to modern models.
    — CZ75 was the first widely adopted “wonder nine”
    — USP is a scaled down version of the world’s most reliable weapon (Mk23)
    — P7 is still the safest single action striker-fired gun in the world
    — PPK was really the first concealed carry gun that wasn’t a revolver.

    • Today is today and those guns are still around. So, yes. In fact, that’s the precise basis for their being listed as overrated. If thousands of people still owned a Brown Bess and went to the Brown Bess forums and ran train on the AR15 and AK47 because you couldn’t “smite an offender rightly” with anything but a Brown Bess, I’d say that it was overrated. ETA I still like your point for purposes of discussion though, thanks for allowing me to clarify.

      • Gun Fu Guru

        You should relabel this to “five guns that need to be retired.”

      • ExMachina1

        With my Bess I could win any bayonet fight against an AR or AK.

      • The_Champ

        Such a great comment

    • valorius

      P7 is also perhaps the most accurate subcompact design of all time, it certainly has the nicest box stock trigger of any service pistol i’ve ever handled.

      • Gun Fu Guru

        ‘Tis true.

    • SP mclaughlin

      PPK was the first concealed carry gun?
      There a like a hundred pocket pistol designs prior to it though, like the Colt 1908 or Mauser 1914.

      • Gun Fu Guru

        Those designs were really only popular in America with gentlemen. They were not popular enough to be copied by most of their competition. With well over 5mil Walther PP/PPKs and 10mil Makarovs (it’s a product improvement) on the market, it is probably the most produced pistol design in history when you factor in all of the manufacturers. By comparison, Glock has sold less than 20mil of all its varieties.

        • ostiariusalpha

          The M1900 was yuuuuge in Europe, much more so than it was in the U.S. at the time. I’ve seen about 20 or so pocket pistols on Forgotten Weapons that were popular on both sides of the pond. There’s no mistaking that the PPK dwarfed everything before it, and dominated the market for a decade, but it had plenty of predecessors.

    • Anonymoose

      There were other automatics long before the PPK that were concealable, but they sucked. The .32 PPK really ended their reign, but by the time the .380 PPK became popular the game had shifted toward other .380s and 9x19s. There were .380 PPKs even before WW2 but Eurotrash armies only equipped their officers with handguns so they didn’t really give a f— about it until it was too late, kinda like how American police departments carried .38 Specials only because it was easier to shoot than other calibers like the .41 Long Colt, .44 Special, and .45s. 007 didn’t even have a .380 PPK until The Man With The Golden Gun.

      • ostiariusalpha

        The Remington M51 came out a decade before the PPK, and is frankly the better shooting pistol by far. It was the amazing price point that let the Walther become the best selling compact in history.

      • Paul White

        I remember reading Dr. No and hearing Q describe the .32 (7.65 in the book) round as having the energy of a brick smashing through a plate glass window; little did I know at the time he was being pretty literal…

  • Anonymoose

    Glock 19 Gen 3
    Glock 17 Gen 3
    Springfield 1911
    Colt 1911
    HK P7

    I agree with the Judge, though, but that’s a special kind of stupid.

    • Major Tom

      Only three of those are correct.

      • Korrrecht

        The first two most certainly are correct

    • valorius

      I know you didnt really put a P7 in your list. o.O

      • Anonymoose

        P7s are pay-to-play, just like Colt Special Combats, TRPs and suped-up custom Glocks. Eventually the myth will die just like the myth of the M14 during Vietnamistan. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fbcac710493b6ac1f38c2af0c148300a7257ece92a716dd872fad8a6c6ba8bf6.jpg

        • valorius

          I got mine when the W.German police trade ins flooded the market. $515 out the door. Of course after i added the rail, nills and finish i had a ‘tad’ more money than that in it.

          Still….it’s probably the classiest, most accurate and purdiest firearm i’ve ever owned.

          You are right about the M series P7s though, those things are sprinkled in unobtanium dust. On an overpriced list they belong. But not on an over-rated list.

  • Kurt Ingalls

    Spicy…very spicy…..Hmm…..I LIKE IT!!!!!!! ……and Jager???….I like it ,too!!!!! 🙂

  • VeriAeq

    But that PPK goes soo well with that Purple Rain Velvet Jacket

  • valorius

    I see the silhouette of a HK P7 PSP in that video screen shot, and i am not amused.

  • valorius

    The CZ75, a pistol that was the most popular design in the world for decades, is over-rated eh? Someone slap the author.

    • Christian Hedegaard-Schou

      There’s lots of things over-rated about the CZ-75. But just because something is over-rated doesn’t make it bad, unreliable, or a terrible self-defense choice. It’s just MAYBE not as great and amazing that some very vocal people make it out to be.

      • Young Freud

        Yeah, I gotta agree and I really hadn’t consider the slide size before he mentioned it. I think the short-slide rail CZ-75, while an excellent pistol, isn’t the GREATEST considering the shorter slide rails apparently cracked easily (which is why the B and subsequent versions had longer slide rails) and that both later CZ pistols and it’s successors like the Tanfoglio TZ/Witness series and the IWI Jericho improved on the concept.

    • iksnilol

      I’d do it gladly.( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

  • valorius

    Who ever rated the judge highly?

  • valorius

    Clearly over-rated.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9ed3d0bafd48b29c4cef439c4fbb97dce420d6bdbe4c88145efa227098148d42.jpg

    First group i ever shot with my P7 PSP police trade in, used, out of the box. Corbon 115gr+P, 10 yards. Literally the first three rounds i fired from the gun.

    Yep…over-rated.

  • valorius

    Glock, any model.
    Deagle, any model
    10mm pistol, any model
    Kimber, all models
    1911A1 military model

  • Fffgll

    I totally agree with one thing James said.
    He is pretentious.

    • mazkact

      I like Wes Anderson movies but dat book……….come on man.

  • Kulibin762

    Turkish overrun CZ-75 was one of the most Underrated handguns. P7 gas system is the reason why this pistol has the highest bbl to slide ratio over any locked breech except for oddities such as Boberg. It is also the reason P7 can shoot without the extractor and one of the reasons P7 points like a hammer fired gun while having inherent to striker low bore. And how non-removable barrel is a bad idea? Other than contributing to mechanical accuracy?
    USP was the most innovative handgun on the market when it hit and still holds its own. The “retarded” rails where the first of their kind. And the safety is there so you can carry it cocked and locked- shocker 🙂

  • RetroG

    When do we get “the most over rated blogger on TFB” article?

  • E O Local

    Well done sir, well done!

  • Paul White

    I sold my CZ75 with no regrets, but some of your complaints are a lot off. I paid 500, street price new. The fit and finish were a bit better than other guns I’ve seen at that price, but agreed on the trigger and slide.

    I personally couldn’t shoot for with it, but other people did.

  • Paul White

    And how is the judge overrated when everyone (correctly) hates it?

    • Ted Unlis

      I understand the Taurus Judge is preferred by mob hit men and fishermen because of the firearm/boat anchor dual use capability.

  • SpartacusKhan

    Top 5 overrated handguns. Not one is a glock, when all five should be. Fail.
    And the CZ-75? Actually the most UNDERrated handgun. If it’s too heavy for you, stop being a girlyman, and it has the best trigger ever made on a SA/DA, ever. With a little work, it’s better than a 1911’s trigger in SA. My SP-01 Shadow has a sub-1mm reset and a 2lb1oz pull, I EDC IWB almost 24/7, and it has a magwell and extended threaded barrel to boot. pffft https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/adb8f5d54f47bbce24bdfa54a4ef47479cae3767f661a3aa07dc1e072b51e60e.jpg

    • Out of the Blue

      Could be that, as mentioned above, his primary experience with CZs is with older surplus guns based on the remarks about the finish. Haven’t used a CZ 75 proper, but a CZ 85B, and I thought the trigger was good, especially for DA/SA. Also, no problems with the finish and what has to be the most natural fit for my hands I have ever found in a handgun.

    • SPQR9

      Did someone make that magwell out of a hood from a Ford?

  • Nate G.

    Eh, the CZ75 in general is overrated, especially here in CA where the pickins are so slim that people fawn over some pretty mediocre pistols. However, the Tac Sport is a really nice pistol. Mine is 9mm, so it’s fairly useless as a competition gun if you ever want to shoot Major… but I also have an X5 L1, and the CZ is nearly as good to shoot at half the price (retail, not current “You can’t find one anymore” prices here in CA). Yes, fit and finish leaves a lot to be desired, but it’s an accurate pistol with a really nice trigger. I plan on having mine worked on to make it less to look at, and ditch the 10 cent plastic magwell that isn’t blended to the frame.

    I felt that way about the P7 since I first shot a rented P7M8 here in California in the 90’s. I thought it was overpriced when they could be picked up new for under a grand. Too hot to shoot, too heavy to carry, and back in the day, the factory trigger was too light to be approved for CCW use here (the issuing agency used to measure trigger pull weight).

    I own a dozen HK pistols though, so I’m a fan. I don’t own a single standard USP. Mine are all stainless (cool, never shoot them) and Experts in 9 and 45.

    The Mk. 23 cannot be overrated. It’s a novelty piece for the HK collector, and I love shooting it. It’s largely useless for any real purpose one might have for a pistol, but IMO it’s like the fun of a Desert Eagle but in a reliable and modern pistol design that uses a caliber you might actually use for home defense or CCW. I wouldn’t sell mine, even though I only use it for dropping paper tangos (without suppression, or even the original threaded barrel, thanks to CA law).

    The Judge is stupid. A stupid, useless pistol from a stupid, useless company. Taurus used to be what you bought if you wanted a real pistol, like an m9/92/etc, but in chrome with gold grip screws and pearl grips. Now that the 92 is obsolete, I’m like “Oh, Taurus is still in business? Good for them” Except I just bought a Wilson/Beretta Brig Tac, so I guess I’m a fan of obsolete guns.

    As far as the 1911 is concerned… well, yeah, by any metric other than a great SA trigger, it’s been passed by. But it’s a very special pistol, and I feel sad for any pistolero who doesn’t own a great 1911 in 45 ACP. If Americans were required by law to have a pistol in every household, it would have to be a 1911 in 45ACP, wouldn’t it? Nothing says “‘Murrica” like the 1911. I’ve got a couple Wilsons and some Ed Browns that I rarely shoot anymore, but I feel like it’s my duty to hold onto them. And damn, are they pretty.

    • roguetechie

      Personally I’ve always found the 1911a1 more well behaved…

      Your mileage may vary, but when RIA can put out a double stack 1911a1 for under $500 at the time I bought mine and have that bastard working out of the box…

      And keep working just like the day you bought it thousands of rounds later through everything from slightly iffy handloads to really hot loads!

      That’s a good pistol right there, no matter what the gun literati say about it!

  • Megaman

    and by the way: bullpups suck! 😉

  • Joe

    I have to agree with other posters. The CZ series is worthy of the attention it gets (which outside of dedicated enthusiasts or comp shooters isn’t much). For me it’s the ergos; SAO is my lot in life because I can’t reach almost any DA trigger. The Desert Eagle should have been in that spot instead; a large game hunting handgun that is considered by the masses (thanks Hollywood) to be the ultimate combat pistol/death ray. Maybe next time TFB can discuss the Browning Hi Power and FN FAL, so overrated with half a century of reliable service in dozens of nations. Of course a P320 and SCAR17 are better; they’re also brand new designs with brand new technology.

  • jamezb

    IDK, This youngster comes off as so pretentious, snarky and self assured, that I find it unworthy of the required effort to attempt finding any common ground with his opinions.
    It’s fine that he speak for himself, but he should relinquish his desire to speak for others.

    • ShooterPatBob

      Did you not get to the end of the video? It’s mostly a sarcastic joke and he has owned all of the guns on the list except for the Judge. His sense of humor is not for everyone, as with all forms of comedy.

    • Haha come on. It’s not “required” that you find common ground with my opinion… I certainly don’t think you need to agree with me, and I want you guys to have different opinions than mine. Relax, big fella.

  • Jeff

    What a jerk.

  • Ranger Rick

    I was surprised that the P08 wasn’t mentioned….

  • iksnilol

    But your mom isn’t a handgun.

  • Some Rabbit

    James a fratboy? Say it ain’t so! Some commenter once said that his videos reek of Axe body spray. Now I’m thinking it’s Hai Karate.

  • ActionPhysicalMan

    I don’t think the Five SeveN is over rated because most people rate it very low. I practically get sneers when I mention that I have one. It has only to be a marginal weapon to not be over rated. The same goes for the P7. Only a handful of us like it. Most people think it is stoopid. It is clearly not among the more effective handguns, but it a very well made, accurate, and reliable gun.

  • The Mystic Seer

    No MAC 10 or tec9?

  • Arandor Thinnorion

    A trolling video. If he actually believes some of the “facts” he states, then he hasn’t done his homework.

    • SPQR9

      A trolling video? Wow, I never thought of that.

  • jcbauerca

    And I have 3 of the pistols on his list. LOL, Bought them when they first came out and there was nothing else back then.

  • Sledgecrowbar

    Every time he says “H and K”, I’m like “but you’re supposed to be good at gun culture”. He says it SOOOO MUCH.

    I never hate these lists because it keeps any intelligent fanboy humble. I like something about almost every gun I shoot but I also dislike something about almost every gun I shoot. Likewise, if I ever found a gun that I thought got everything right, it’s not perfect for someone else out there. It’s like dating, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

    His similes are on point. Not finishing every paragraph with one is key.

  • ShooterPatBob

    Haha, hilarious man. Can’t tell if you don’t understand why people enjoy shooting heavy pistols or if you’re just trying to flesh out your list.

    • Some of column B. I understand that heavier guns are better for soaking up recoil, but at a certain point, you hit diminishing returns that affect practicality of the pistol as a whole (why not just attach a lead bar to the dust cover?) That’s why I might even consider the P01 to be underrated, but the B to be overrated. I think the P01 is almost as controllable as the 75B in 9mm, while being lighter, compact enough to carry, and with modern features not on the B.

  • jonp

    I guess Korth as one of the most overpriced Germans. HK as overated, Sigs work fine and I dont think they are over rated or overpriced. Brazilian? Taurus, maybe, but I have had good luck with their revolvers.
    Lets watch the video

  • jonp

    Well I’m going to quibble with 2 in the list. I like the action and feel of the CZ. I bought the Tanfoglio clone so it wasn’t overpriced and loved the gun.
    The Judge. My wife thought they were cool so I got her one for Christmas. I can’t say I’ve read any reviews that pitched more than the fun factor and it is that. Useless? Not really but it’s main draw is the fun and that is never a bad reason to own a hand gun in my book. Heck, I’ve got several Hi Point carbines.

    BTW: How does Alex know what a condom full of broken glass feels like?

  • ActionPhysicalMan

    James has no ranting for any of these guns to work with. Just what is the “rating” of a CZ75? 26? Pie? What? How can you claim that something is overated when it has no rating? I’d hire James if he wasn’t already hired, because he brings in the readers, but this is all BS.

  • Chris Cosby

    I’ll give you the USP not having a standard rail even though its predates the standard rail on handguns. They should have updated it by now. That being said I do think it is a better shooting gun than a glock. Its hard to quantify but most people who have shot my usp’s have shot them better than other guns including myself. I have friends that are shooting it better after the first magazine than guns they own. I’m not really sure why either.

    This is coming from someone who owned m&p, glock, sig p220/226, walther, 1911s,berettas, etc before buying the usp. I bought a usp9 tactical as people seemed to say it was one of the better suppressor hosts. Loved it so much I picked up a 45 version to go with it. The rounds through them is nothing compared to my m&p9 and sigs either.

    It all comes down to what works best for the end user and what the purpose of the gun is. For a concealed carry gun yea the usp is a brick. For a duty gun or even a normal holstered gun for something else I’d say it isn’t overrated.

  • Steven Alexander

    Glock should have easily won the most overrated. Sucktacular triggers,
    average accuracy, ‘breakaway’ sights, & awkward grip angle. Blocky
    grip with squared corners.They
    refuse to listen to customers on how to make their pistols better. Always behind on any new features/upgrades.
    Such as dragged kicking and screaming for years to put changeable back
    straps on them and oh same for offering a single stack option.
    Priced over five hundred dollars now and don’t offer anything over what
    other pistols offer with better features at the same or less money. Oh
    and the owner is senile brain damaged jerk who hates his family and cut
    them off from his life after his gold digging nurse threw some leg on
    him and turned him against his family.. I could go on. Good basic pistol with lots of options for customizing. (which it needs to equal other pistols) Flame away fanboys…

    • MichaelZWilliamson

      I buy them used for $300, they work reliably, and I’m not afraid of losing something I can’t replace easily.

  • Ted Unlis

    👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻!

  • Haulin’ Oats

    TFB’s own King Alex would like to have a word with you Court Jester James R.

    https://youtu.be/47MNzMq3q2M

    • civilianaf

      I do miss Alex…

  • tomah57

    The only thing overrated here is James Reeves.

  • KEL3

    The P7 isn’t overrated, it’s under unappreciated due to the lack of knowledge concerning its awesomeness. Who needs to change the barrel on a perfect gun? Who cares about weight when you know no one at the bbq is carrying anything as unique.

    You can’t talk about a glock for hours like you can the P7, right? Case closed.

    • Haha. “BBQ gun”. You spend any time at the Cult of the P7?

  • mazkact

    Is that Audubon park where you are filming ? CZ-75, well now you have gone and done it 😉 Everyone one I own clones included (Tanfoglios are best) are utterly reliable and accurate as shooter.I cannot say that about any other types I own .

  • Bullshit Detector

    If James puts the P7 on this list, he should spend a little more time thinking.

    • MichaelZWilliamson

      Indeed. The P7 is more useless than a PPK.

  • Teddy.Roosevelt

    A snake gun is a shovel. I have never known someone who actually had the gun on their person when they encountered the snake. Great video! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f2da6f49caf5a0d64a8df76a89e37ac972fa4f52ceecd152adf8af2493709466.jpg

  • scaatylobo

    I actually agree with most of everything he said.
    The HK usp is a gun that I might not even keep if it were a gift [ it WOULD be a safe queen ]
    PPK = owned a few,loved shooting them BUT too heavy to carry as a BUG [ all it is good for ]
    JUDGE = total anchor for a small boat = now make the poly model with shorter cylinder and in .45 colt ,and I would buy one.
    CZ = all he said !!!.
    P7 = again ,all he said and I hated shooting it as the grip was a true PITA.

  • Martingard

    Another Glock advertisement. Jeeeeeze, I’m throwing up in my mouth!

  • Russian Under Your Bed

    75% of Cops use Glock? So what? If Ford didn’t quit making the Crown Vic 85% would still be driving them. A Nissan Altima is faster and a lot more efficient. The Crown Vic served their purposes including being able to repair regularly with minimum effort and time. Doesn’t mean you should run out, buy one and proclaim it to be the greatest car on 10 out of 10 things people demand.

    Military and Martin Riggs use Beretta 92s. I use to think it was a great or at least very good gun due that fact. Then Heard people complain they were garbage, got older and learn about lowest bidder, better sales people, product placement and favoritism or kickbacks. All the cops around here are going to stripped down Chevy Tahoes cause they are the best. I got to go get one.

  • politicallyincorrectshooter

    To some extent it seems like the article is completely ignoring the situation at the time that the Firearms were built when the peace seven came out there weren’t 19 ounce high capacity 9mm or even low capacity 9mm. When the PPK came out there were not a lot of Alternatives in the small but relatively Sleek design category. When the CZ 75 came out there were not a lot of other guns that had the characteristics it had. I don’t think that the judge is a good concealed carry firearm comma but I also recognize there are more loads for it than just three soft lead round balls that get deformed in the barrel. I suspect other loads behave differently but that would not be matching his argument. Some of us do get tired of the Glock Fanboys acting as if everything else is crap. I would argue that one of the reasons they’re in such worldwide police usage is the low price because the Departments are obsessed with saving money. I don’t hate Glocks, in fact I think the 23 is a very good compromise. But I am not a huge fan of them. Tastes differ and sentimental attachment is a perfectly valid reason to have a firearm or make a particular choice in a firearm. If they work they work. I have gone through several carry guns over the years and I switched from my Sig to 282 my Kimber because for some reason I shot it dramatically better. People have different tastes likes and needs. Oh well your mileage may vary.

    • MichaelZWilliamson

      The Judge fails because you destroy the ballistics and balance of the .45 Colt to put shotgun shells in it, and shotgun shells cannot perform from a revolver and are inferior to the .45 Colt, so you’ve taken a revolver and destroyed every reason to carry it. It doesn’t matter what .410 loads you put in it, they suck compared to .45 Colt. Then the .45 Colt rattles down 3″ of freebore and engages a half inch of rifling.

      A 4″ .44 magnum or .45 Colt $#!+$ all over any .45/.410 combo.

  • mikewest007

    Why did the Desert Eagle not make the list? It’s like all the guns on the list rolled into one. Overpriced like the USP, overweight like the CZ75, overengineered like the P7, pointless like the Judge and even more overhyped than the PPK. Did I miss anything?

    • MichaelZWilliamson

      That should have replaced the CZ75

    • It’s about being overhyped. The Deagle might be overhyped by fans, but the people who can afford to buy one and keep it fed know it is a novelty. I think that’s what separates it from the Judge. It was a tough call keeping the Deagle off the list, however, criticism of the Desert Eagle is similar in many regards to the Judge. But what got the Judge on the list instead is that most Deagle owners know the gun has zero practical purpose whatsoever, while Judge owners believe that it’s the most versatile and pragmatic gun they could ever possibly own.

      • MichaelZWilliamson

        The Deagle isn’t practical, but at least it shoots real bullets with a real function, unlike the Judge, which doesn’t shoot either of its cartridges well.

  • Mike Peach

    How many times did he say long colt. That’s the mark of an uneducated gun nut.

    • MichaelZWilliamson

      It’s necessary to say .45 Long Colt because if you say .45 Colt, people assume ACP. If you are not familiar with this problem, you are the uneducated gun nut.

      • Mike Peach

        I am familiar with A CO and Schofield and a host of other correct terms. How will the uninformed learn if we continue to use the wrong terms just because someone might get confused.

        • MichaelZWilliamson

          How will they learn unless you explain at length?

          This is the first time I’ve ever seen anyone get bent out of shape over it.

          Likewise, my .44 Auto Mag shoots .44 AMP, but everyone calls it .44 Auto Mag.

          There are two .45 Colts–.45 Colt and .45 Automatic Colt Pistol. After a century of the latter being eminent, a great many people have never heard of the former, and unless you specifically say, “.45 Colt (the long revolver cartridge, not .45 ACP)” they won’t know what you mean.

          This is exacerbated by users who refer to the .45 ACP as a “Colt .45.”

          We knew what he meant. The term is colloquial. And it’s a far more justifiable term than ones like “Clip” for “magazine” and “Casing” for “case,” both of which are used by a great many people including manufacturers.

          • Mike Peach

            Mea culpa. I guess me and SAAMI have it wrong.
            SECTION I – CHARACTERISTICS
            CENTERFIRE PISTOL & REVOLVER
            CARTRIDGE AND CHAMBER DRAWING
            45 COLT
            SAAMI VOLUNTARY PERFORMANCE STANDARDS

          • No one is arguing that .45 Colt is wrong, only that .45LC isn’t wrong, either, and is arguably preferable.

          • MichaelZWilliamson

            I have a .45 Colt revolver here. What ammo does it take?

            Well, it turns out it’s a Model 1917, and takes .45 ACP. But it’s still a .45 Colt revolver.

            My daughter has a revolver in .45 Colt. It’s a 1916 Smith. In fact, it takes .45 Long Colt. Or I could say “not .45 ACP.” Or .45 Colt. Except if I ask her to hand me the “.45 Colt revolver,” then it could be either, unless I say, “Model 1916 Smith” or “Model 1917 Colt.”

            Or, I can just say, “Hand me the Long Colt.”

            As normal people who don’t have their heads so far up their backsides they can see their tonsils do.

            And we’re done smartsplaining to you. Go away now.

          • Mike Peach

            Thank you for taking this to the gutter. I’m sure your daughter is proud.

  • In a Mirror, Darkly.

    Man, get to the review instead of going on and on with an op-ed.

  • enscriptchun

    MMmmm… tasty, delicious salt.

  • civilianaf

    Aw jeez, best comments ever. If only I didn’t have a day job, I could watch this all unfold in real time.

  • BeoBear

    When you said “The Taurus Judge” I literally yelled “FINALLY!!!” out loud lol. Fortunately nobody was around to look at me like a nutter. When that thing first came out I said “oooh, cool” but then I realized it was a Taurus and I hate Taurus. Soon after seeing the announcement of the gun I saw it being used in a video and quickly decided it was the stupidest, most ridiculous and utterly useless giant piece of crap I’d seen released in my lifetime. My sales guy at our LGS told me “We sell more Taurus Judge’s than almost any other gun. Although we do get most of them returned back to us because of quality issues”. I have no doubt of that and I’ll bet very few of the people who kept theirs probably didn’t keep them long once the novelty wore off.

    Now…the Walther PPK? You’re right, everything you said was true but dang it, I still really want one. My sister really wants one too. It’s definitely the only gun I really want that I know is going to be terrible at just about everything except looking fantastic.

    I’ve never handled the others on the list but since you’re two for two of the ones I have I would probably agree on those too.

  • J.E.Walker

    Speaks volumes that he has owned 4 of the 5.

  • Bob Smalser

    Juvenile.

  • Rogue

    Not the PPK? So does that mean I should still shake my martini and not stir?

    • MichaelZWilliamson

      Shaking a martini waters it down.

  • supergun

    Guns are like Harleys. There are thousands of different versions and models. Everyone has different reasons for owning the guns they have or modified. That is the beautiful thing about America. That is why everyone else in the World tries to copy us. So this article is good and fun reading, but it is like an ,,,,everyone has one.

  • TruthGiver

    Bravo

  • supergun

    There are reasons why some pistols cost $3,000 and $4,000. They do the same job as the $500. There are reasons why automobiles cost $80,000 and $90,000. They do the same job as the $15,000 and $30,000 automobiles.

  • Patrick

    I completely agree about the PPK. That was my first pistol. I still have bad memories of the slide actually cutting into my hand when cycling (and my hands aren’t that large). I hated that pistol so much that I gave it away. It was inaccurate, jammed on anything but FMJ, and was basically a piece of crap all-around.

  • gdogs

    Funny. Yeah, I can’t really disagree with anything on this list, even though I do own both the HK’s. Just one thing to point out… there is no such thing as a 45 Long Colt, it simply a 45 Colt.

    • MichaelZWilliamson

      Yes, but people hear .45 Colt and assume ACP. So the term “long Colt” came into vogue because it’s longer than the ACP.

      • This ^

        • gdogs

          “This” aside, it is still incorrect to say Long Colt (you aren’t going to find any 45 Long Colt ammo on the shelves). And while some people will mistake Colt 45 (which is itself not a caliber but a brand and cartridge slang) and 45 Colt, that doesn’t mean that we should cater to the lowest common denominator. Educate rather reinforce misnomers. Just saying.

          • I’ve never understood the point of the debate. It doesn’t do any harm to refer to it as .45 Long Colt, other than offending erudite shooters. On the other hand, the NRA requires me to teach an entire section on cartridge ID for concealed weapons classes. And for good reason: people can get confused by cartridge designations. I prefer to use the nomenclature that allows people to more easily infer my meaning over pleasing a handful of purists.

          • gdogs

            I’m not one to argue semantics, which is precisely what the magazine vs clip argument is. BUT, in this case there is a wrong and a right. And I can prove it by asking you to go buy some “45 Long Colt” ammunition – it simply doesn’t exist. Without question cartridge designation can be the most complicated thing for new shooters to grasp, and for good reason – there is sooo much overlap in names and rounding in terms of diameter (and not always rounding that makes any real sense). Just curious, does the NRA require you to teach the wrong name? Do they address 45 Colt at all, and if so how?

          • 1) You are though;
            2) Don’t put this in the same boat as “magazine versus clip”. Those words mean two different things, unlike .45 Colt versus Long Colt;
            3) Again, you’re begging the question: You’re saying I am calling it the “wrong” name, when more people are going to know what .45 Long Colt is than .45 Colt. That’s the problem with this specific debate. You have purists whining about a difference that is, at best, pointless, or at worst, unhelpful.

          • gdogs

            I wouldn’t think of myself as a purist, but if not imagining up a name for a caliber is being one then so be it. And while mags and clips may be different things, the words are used synonymously by everyone except lingo hawks. You can put a couple of magazines on a table and ask any shooter around to hand you a clip and they’ll know exactly what you are asking for. As for 45 Colt, the simple fact is YOU ARE CALLING IT THE WRONG NAME (not only can you not buy 45 Long Colt ammo, you also won’t find that name on any manufacturer’s website that chamber guns in 45 Colt, and I’ve just check my loading manuals and guess what… no 45 Long Colt appears in any of them). I appreciate the back and forth (especially a journalist that interacts with the readers/watchers), but I think we’re getting nowhere. Just too bad that you are mis-educating people when it would be so much easier to just teach them the correct name.

          • > OK with mags being called clips
            > Not OK with .45 Colt being called .45 Long Colt
            whew

            Haha thanks for the tete a tete. See you next time.

          • Thomas Mandell

            .45 Long Colt is a real thing, was originally meant to designate between the ammo for the M1873 SAA and the Scholfield’s .45 short.

  • AlDeLarge

    I still want a Raging Judge.

  • Hillary: A Voice of Treason

    No matter what you think of James’ opinions in this video……

    This was funny as all hell!

  • MichaelZWilliamson

    He’s mostly spot on once he started. But anyone who thinks a 1911 is over-rated is not welcome at my house. It takes nothing but crap from lesser beings, but it still around well after a century. If the Glock is not over-rated based on sales, then the 1911 isn’t either.

    The CZ75 isn’t my favorite, but there’s nothing wrong with it, and it hardly has the rabid fanbois of HK and Glock.

    And boy, does he love the S&W Shield.

  • Boss
  • BR549

    Well, that was a total waste of 11 minutes and 35 seconds.

    I’ll bet the CZ will prove far more durable than your beloved POS Glocks, although we do agree on the Taurus Judge.

  • Capn Stefano

    CZ75.. because you can bet your life on it. Try carrying an EAA Witness Elite Match 10MM if you think the ’75 is heavy. The Witness is my daily primary CCW and weighs 42 OZ empty. The most comforting weight I’ve ever packed and yes I also carry .45 ACPs as BUGs. Man up and stop whining about weight. The one I really agree about most is the “Judge”.. what a pathetic joke that thing is

  • Heavy10 Mm

    As a CZ fanboy I want to hate, but I can’t. This is, apart from the CZ of course, spot on lol

  • NanDev

    I love your reviews James! Laughed out loud at the flat comment. I WAS that girl in high school and never minded. I HAD a Judge first year they came out. HATED IT and sold it. A hand cannon of no use. Four inch barrel 357 magnums are FAR better.

  • Kodi

    Generally on the money.

  • Tonewall Jaxon

    what a fing idiot.

  • Zebra Dun

    A 1911A1 is probably on the list and no Glocks are.

  • runswiththunder

    I should win some kind of award. I OWNED the numbers 1 and 2. The PPK was my first handgun, but after several years I got tired of the bites. I loved it’s looks, but it became uncomfortable to shoot. The Judge, I won, and never intended to keep it. I sold it a couple of weeks later. I’m into Sigs and Glocks for handguns now.
    I enjoyed the video

  • James Madison

    1) PPK – agreed. Pointless.
    2) Judge – 1000% agreed. Redneck boner machine…lol
    3) P7 – 110% agreed
    4) CZ75 – disagree, a bit long in the tooth but still a solid pistol and tons of good clones for dirt cheap.
    5) HK USP – agreed.

  • E Wolfe

    Loved the video, lots of humor. Nearly fell for the P7 when it was new but ended up with a PPKS as an off duty gun, loved it, never failed to qualify with it, learned quickly to grip it with the heel embedded in my palm. I still have track-marks across the web of my hand. I did, also, have to dremel the feed ramp, as that ridge liked to grab anything which wasn’t FMJ ball and cause a FTF. Traded the Walther and my S&W 659 on a Kahr PM9 on retirement, but I do also have a Colt New Agent .45. Yep, a 1911 and I love it I carried a Singer mfg’d 1911 in the service. Wish I owned it now, mint its worth north of 50K. .

    BTW, bought the PPKS to replace a 2″ S&W Chief, which I carried for years. Another guy that would eat the meat right off of your thumb when the cylinder release made contact upon recoil. Same solution as the PPKS, change your grip. Sights: for self defense, sights on a semi-automatic are worthless & to be ignored, imo, inside of 25 yards. Competition is another animal with a different goal. Snakes, my 2′ Chief with rat shot was ideal for cottonmouths when retrieving fishing lures from the snakes personal basking site, a pine tree in an impoundment. Glad you touched on the CZ, I was thinking about one last year, I’m a nut for things which seem to be well crafted. Whether I need them or not. In closing, I recently bought an M&P Shield 9mm for my lady’s bedside table. I have to say, I am seriously impressed with that gun, High value for few dollars!

  • nick. v.

    Personally i love my cz 75..D compact. I carry it. I effin love it. Now its only one of about 17 guns i carry but still…love it. It is so comfortavle…….i also have a judge and love that….id never carry that beast but still

  • Anthony “stalker6recon”

    This guy is looking for a pretentious narcissistic dick, he is the one turning the camera upon himself and acting like his opinion matters. That guy isn’t me, probably not you either, it’s himself. What a douche!

  • 9911kelly

    For its intended uses, the Judge isn’t quite so overrated, although the Governor is a more versatile choice. Some of what he says is true, but he leaves out some valid points:

    (1) Yes, there’s snake shot. But a .410 will have larger and/or more pellets, so it should be more effective. I’ve seen .45 Long Colt snake shot that wasn’t quite as effective on a larger snake, requiring more shots.

    (2) There’s .410 defensive loads that are made specifically for handguns that are ideal for inside a house, where you want to reduce the chance of the shot penetrating a wall.

    (3) The Judge offers the ability to shoot two types of ammo. The Governor offers three types of ammo, with the ability to shoot .45 ACP when using moon clips that are quicker to load in the gun than speed loaders. I have a Governor and keep it in my house for home defense. But I also keep two loaded moon clips with it, in case I need to reload.

    (4) I can’t speak for the Judge, but my Governor is reasonably accurate for a short barreled revolver when shooting .45 Long Colt. Given that, plus the ability to shoot 2 other types of ammo, why is a gun like that such a bad thing? I say the gun deserves good credit, and isn’t so overrated.