Update: Ideal Conceal Pistol

Earlier, we published articles telling about the announcement and developments around the Ideal Conceal Pistol. In this post, we’ll take a look at some updates concerning this handgun.

So it is basically a derringer chambered in .380 ACP which has a folding grip making it look like a smartphone, thus ideally concealing it. Recently the company published some information showing the real version of the handgun and explaining its mechanism. The video below is actually made for their crowdfunding campaign, but it sheds some light on the details of this pistol.

At the very beginning of this project, the company had only shown the computer made images and a plastic model of the pistol. Earlier this year they published a video of the firing prototype.

Later, they released a video explaining how some of the parts of this gun work and interact. Particularly, they show their new gear system on the hammer which allows the hammer to alternatingly strike the two firing pins.

And a short video showing that gear mechanism:

Reportedly, the company will start the production late summer 2017. In an interview given to NRA TV, the owner of the company Kirk Kjellberg said that the MSRP will be under $500.

This is one of the most controversial guns right from the beginning. Some people praise the idea, others see dangers in it because it doesn’t look like a gun. To me, there is nothing wrong with its concealability. Whether to use it or not is a matter of personal preference. If you consider a derringer to be a proper defensive tool, then why not to have it more concealable? Also, it pretty much solves the printing issue.





Hrachya H

I was born and currently live in Armenia, where I work in a family business of leather goods manufacturing. Being a retired sergeant of my country’s armed forces and a lifelong firearms enthusiast, I always enjoy studying firearms design, technology and history. Also my knowledge of Russian allows me to translate and make Russian/Soviet/Combloc small arms related information available for the English speaking audience.
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  • Raptor Fred

    I wonder how much of the “firearm” is manufactured in China?

    • Richie

      Well, given that the video says 100% made in America, I’m gonna have to say 0%

      • DIR911911 .

        some people are just born negative

      • Raptor Fred

        Not even a lil bit?

      • Raptor Fred

        But where did the metal come from?

  • noob

    “I wonder how he lost the tip of his left index finger?”
    **watches video showing him unfold the gun**
    “Oh”

    There’s no law against an “assisted opening” or switchblade style push button mechanism on a folding handgun right?

    Because I am quite attached to my fingers.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/39867228c26085c269a545561ac602ea284b4237544004baa8b2113402e88659.png

  • tsubaka

    “you should invest in ideal conceal”….”help to get this product out on a *worldwide* basis”
    considering a lot of european countries have law against concealed firearms what are the other countries that could import theses?

  • Dickie

    First that guy in video has a bad flinch and second isnt it illegal to have a gun that can be hidden as an every day object. I thought there was a law that did that elimitating the guns like canes, etc

    • RAY

      Only becomes an AOW if the item can be fired while disguised. This has to be folded out into a gun shape first, so you’d be fine.

      • Veteran for Trump

        It is an AOW until you unfold it.
        So $5 tax stamp, Form 4, fingerprints, photos and notify CLEO and 6 to 8 month wait.

        • Dr feelstrange

          Can you fire it while its folded? No. An AOW either is or isnt.

          • Veteran for Trump

            See my recent post above.

          • Rogertc1

            I’ve a Stinger Pen gun. It will not fire unless folded. It is NOT a AOL.

  • Haulin’ Oats

    iGUN. Please swipe your finger to unlock the safety.

  • Dracon1201

    “Hold on and don’t kill me for a second while I unfold my gun!” I mean people already complain about not carrying one in the chamber as a death sentence…

    • iksnilol

      It’s hella neat for assassinations tho.

  • DR.NUMBERS

    So it’s 3-4 times the size of a Seecamp, only holds two shots, is more complex/has more parts, probably weighs more, and takes time and several motions to deploy. In what way is this the ideal concealed pistol?

    • Sunshine_Shooter

      Ideal to conceal, not ideal to shoot or use.

      • iksnilol

        Also, seecamp has literally no sights, that’s retarded.

        • DR.NUMBERS

          Not really, no difficulty in getting all shots in the upper torso at 15 yards just by point shooting. At 7 yards I can get them all in a hand-print, which is more than good enough for rapid self-defense.

          It’s certainly not a target/recreational pistol though.

    • Art out West

      An LCP/P3AT/TCP etc. is small enough, and is still a functional firearm. I am perfectly content with one of those for deep concealment (frankly, I usually just go with the J-frame for deep concealment). I’ve got no use for a firearm like this.

  • The alternate firing mechanism is extremely complex for what its doing. Mechanisms to alternate firing have been around for decades and they are much simpler and robust.

    • DR.NUMBERS

      Yep, all that complexity for something to go wrong and you only get two rounds…

  • jonn doe

    This Is perfect……If you made It 10yrs ago, phones aren’t that thick anymore however, It has the advantage of not looking like a gun and can already be In you’re hand rather than drawing from a holster on your belt.

    • BillyOblivion

      IDK, the Kyocera Duraforce Pro is about that thick.

      But it’s a lot tougher.

  • Some Rabbit

    Great, now cops have a credible excuse to shoot first and ask questions later when they see someone take out a cell phone. What could go wrong?

    • Kelly Jackson

      Sorry but that tired argument has been around since the early 2000s since the photos of 4 shot Nokia phones surfaced from eastern Europe.

      You should go ahead and put it to bed.

    • Sianmink

      so no change?

  • Veteran for Trump

    I bet ATF classifies it as an AOW.
    Like a pen gun, cane gun, knife gun or wallet gun.
    Now a cellphone gun.

  • Sianmink

    I get the impression from the video that this thing has about a 20# trigger pull.

  • Ben

    This thing has fail written all over it.

  • st381183

    I like the gun as a novelty, a collector piece. The concept is pretty cool and the POU is for up close and personal. There are many better, smaller, quicker, effective options but if you are wearing a suit this could slip into the breast pocket and not affect the line of the suit. A gun that might be seen in 20 years on forgotten weapons YouTube channel.

  • Jon

    The ideal firearm to conceal is an 1858 Remington cartridge revolver.

    You can hide it very well, you can draw it fast and you can take down anyone with it.

  • Rogertc1

    I’d get it for my Derringer collection. Not really practical. It will NEVER make the market.

  • Seth Hill

    The empty area in front of the trigger opening could house a laser/led “flashlight” or both.

  • Veloxto

    The thing is, the gun is not functional while it looks like a phone. Its only functional when it looks like… a gun. Anyway, I guess it could be useful if you need to carry like a secret agent or something, or at the very least carry /A gun/ regardless, otherwise for people into the whole CC and guns thing as a whole, it doesn’t look very good for an actual personal defense scenario.

  • Sunshine_Shooter

    #1, it’s a play on their name and how they are sacrificing actual necessary performance for something that most carriers don’t really care about, being 1,000,000% undetectable

    #2, it looks like a phone, which literally everyone in the nation carries in their pocket daily, so even when printing it is concealed.

  • vietvet656667

    How much?

  • frrst245

    so a derringer that you have to unfold with 2 hands before shooting… not too impressed.