Gunner Wade Talks Suppressors

In a rare break with rigid tradition and military bearing, a recent video series has been released in which Chief Warrant Officer 5 Wade discusses suppressor usage within the Marine infantry, in order to dispel some myths that troops might have when it comes to the practical application of mounted suppressors on their weapon systems. In particular, he focuses on the supposed loss of velocity when it comes to 5.56x45mm rifles and associated cans by shooting them through a chronograph. He also showed just how hot a suppressor could get after several magazines of rounds through it. Gunner Wade did this by completing the iconic Youtube bacon cooking by wrapping the suppressor with raw bacon.

Before our readers get curious about a Mk.18 upper receiver possibly being adopted, it appears that the Gunner is using his personal Daniel Defense MK.18 along with his personal NFA registered suppressor, rather than any actual Government equipment. It also doesn’t appear to even be filmed on Camp Lejeune itself, but more likely in Croatan National Forest where there are similar roads and lakes as pictured in the video. The whole “mood” of the video is very un-Marine infantry like. Infantry officers and SNCOs can be some of the most uptight folks on the block at times, and this is probably precisely what Wade was looking to accomplish by filming a completely candid and casual Youtube infomercial, to get the attention of infantrymen throughout the Fleet Marine Force. We still don’t know what this entails for the Fleet in terms of actual implementation, or even if the current RFI is going to continue to fruition.

Whether or not we see a force-wide adoption and issue of suppressors for various weapon systems, the points Gunner Wade can be argued from various perspectives. I know for a fact that with 7.62x51mm NATO M40A5s, the Surefire suppressors would indeed change the point of impact due to the heat generated. Although this might have not been shown in the chronograph testing the Gunner did, if he took the weapons out to some distance, the point of impact changes might have been observable.





Miles

Infantry Marine, based in the Midwest. Specifically interested in small arms history, development, and usage within the MENA region and Central Asia. To that end, I run Silah Report, a website dedicated to analyzing small arms history and news out of MENA and Central Asia.

Please feel free to get in touch with me about something I can add to a post, an error I’ve made, or if you just want to talk guns. I can be reached at miles@tfb.tv


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  • Joshua Graham

    Is this guy a real Marine or some old dude in a uniform?

    • Eric H

      I think he still is, attached to the 2nd Marine Division down at Camp Lejeune last time I looked.

    • The video was produced by the 2d Marine Division Combat Camera, and has been posted on official USMC websites.

    • USMC03Vet

      Gunners are indeed the unicorns of the Corps.

      • Risky

        Yes, by far the coolest, most badass rank you can achieve in the entire US military.

      • Uniform223

        CWO’s in general are that rare rank and individual. Enlisted hear stories about them. When other officers see them they don’t know how to react.

        • Phil Hsueh

          I always say that Warrants are neither fish nor fowl. They rank above even the senior most enlistedman but are junior to the most wet behind the ears butter bar. You salute them and call them sir (I think) like a regular officer but they don’t get formal commands like officers do.

    • Old Mac

      He is the current Division Gunner for 2nd MARDIV, Camp Lejeune, NC

      • Christian Wade

        That is priceless! I am that old dude in the uniform and yes, I am still on Active Duty. That made my day!

  • Madcap_Magician

    I LOL’d at the implications- [Marine] infantry officers and senior NCOs can be some of the most uptight folks on the block sometimes…

    … now, warrant officers, on the other hand…

  • Silencer POI shifts are normal. But with most cans they are repeatable, and often quite small to the point that unless you are shooting a precision oriented rifle you aren’t going to notice it.

    I think Gunner was trying to deal with the myths that come from video games, like Call of Duty, where putting a silencer decrease the range and/or the lethality of the shot. Which is true to older wipes based cans, but only continues in video games for game balance reasons.

    • Risky

      Also, to be fair to the video games, I think the decrease in damage/range is also to simulate the use of subsonic ammunition which would both decrease velocity and negatively impact the useful range of the weapon (depending on the caliber, of course.)

      • CommonSense23

        Except unless you are using a MP5SD. Thats not happening. Adding a quick detach suppressor isn’t hurting terminal ballistics these days. Unless its got wipes and that’s for less than a mag.

  • gunsandrockets

    M855 ball? Pretty slow out of 10.5 inches…

    • randomswede

      It’s likely civilian ammo as the rifle and suppressor both are civilian, they may not have felt like paying for “the good stuff” as the effect of increased muzzle velocity is common to any ammunition when using a suppressor.

  • LCON

    … hmmm Bacon….

  • Uniform223

    Using a suppressor to cook bacon. It’s been done before…

    https://youtu.be/V7UW5AkWqOY

    Never the less, always fun to watch and good to eat 😀