TFB EXCLUSIVE – Aimpoint Officially Discusses AAA Comp M5

With internet rumors and clandestine photographs trickling through the internet, firearms optic giant Aimpoint is ready to officially announce the existence of a T2 sized red dot that operates on a single AAA battery. Currently labeled with a numeric designation, Aimpoint also acknowledges that the AAA Comp M5 is currently in use by Diplomatic Security Service (DSS) units around the world.

Although official specifications are still a little guarded, the micro red dot’s headline feature is the ability to remain in a ‘constant on’ state at medium brightness for a period of five years without the need for a lithium battery replacement. In addition, the M5 will be submersible to a depth of 147 feet and will be extremely shock resistant.

So, do you want one? Yeah, me too. Unfortunately, Aimpoint will only be producing the Comp M5 for DSS until contract is filled. They estimate consumer availability sometime in the middle of 2018. Which means you only have to wait a year.

I hope to provide you with an updated story with additional pictures and details as we are allowed to do so. Even though Aimpoint is acknowledging that the M5 is being manufactured and is in the wild (literally), the program and contract is still a sensitive topic – obviously competitors would like a closer look from all angles.

Aimpoint AAA Comp M5

AAA Comp M5 Aimpoint

I would like to take a second to thank the management team at Aimpoint. When we approached them almost exactly a year ago with knowledge of the Comp M5, they graciously agreed to give TFB advance notice of the eventual public announcement. But that didn’t stop me from badgering them almost weekly for updates. So, I’m sorry and thank you.

More details to come when we are allowed to share them with you all.


Current Micro Line of Aimpoint red dot sights:


Aimpoint Micro


Aimpoint Inc.
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Aimpoint USA – http://us.aimpoint.com/





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  • James Kachman

    This is super cool! Saving up my pennies to buy this in 2018. Thanks for sharing this TFB.

  • SGT Fish

    probably won’t be available on the civilian side until they get a Chinese production line set up for them. pretty much all the swiss and USA ones go to mil/LE

    • Zach Robinson

      LOL, wut? If it is a legitimate product of Aimpoint it’s made in Sweden.

      • SGT Fish

        not trying to piss in your cheerios or anything, but theres a reason not all of them are marked “made in Sweden.”
        just because it doesn’t say, “made in china,” doesn’t mean it wasn’t. And just because it was made in china, doesn’t mean it is crap. I only trust my life to aimpoints, but I also know a bit more about them. And sorry I meant Sweden not Switzerland

        • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

          They don’t make any of their red dots in China bud.

        • Zach Robinson

          As Patrick said no Aimpoints are made in China. It sounds like you’ve been fed some of that famous local gun shop mythology.

    • Someone is pulling your leg, because every authenticate one I’ve seen was made in Sweden.

      • SGT Fish

        I think you mean “authentic.” and how do you know they were made in Sweden? did they say on the side? did all of them say that on the side? do the fake ones say “made in Sweden” on the side?

        • It depends, on what they are copying. AFAIK Aimpoint only marks US Government contract optics with “Made in Sweden.”

          Unless it is a contract overrun, I believe most civilian optics don’t have “Made in Sweden” on it, which might be where the confusion comes from. But the box will say “Made in Sweden” on it. Also it is considered false advertising to lie about the country of origin even on the boxes, companies have been sued out of business for that.

          • Zach Robinson

            My personal use H-1 is marked made in Sweden, as are all of the H-2, T-2, and PRO models I have on display as a retailer. I have yet to personally encounter a real Aimpoint that was not marked with the country of origin.

          • I have a 3 H-1s, 1 T-1, 3x Magnifier, and PRO in my safe. None of them say “Made in Sweden” and they were all received from legitimate including Midway USA, LaRue, G&R Tactical, and even directly from Aimpoint in one case (prize table item).

            Granted I don’t think any of them are newer than 5 years old (the newest being the PRO). Most are from early in the Micro’s release.

        • G

          From Aimpoint’s website:

          “HANDMADE IN SWEDEN

          Aimpoint is a Swedish company, situated in Sweden and with a subsidiary in the US. The production takes place in two locations in Sweden. One in Gällivare in the far north and one at the head office in Malmö in the south of Sweden.

          Each sight is hand-built, assigned an individual identification number, and undergoes rigorous testing and numerous quality control checks during the manufacturing process.”

    • K-Gunner

      I hope you don’t have a made in China Aimpoint because if you do, you don’t have an Aimpoint.

    • HLM

      Did you buy a $600 knockoff Chinese made Aimpoint and your pals told you that you really got the real deal but made in China? Keep the faith man.

      • SGT Fish

        Im still 100% an aimpoint user for duty work.

    • Bronson

      What evidence do you have that some Aimpoints are made in China?

    • Orion Quach

      This dude came up in another aimpoint thread yelling this stuff…

    • The_Automator

      Source? Proof at all?

    • DonDrapersAcidTrip

      Yes only you in the entire world are onto aimpoint’s secret, they’ve duped everyone else.

  • Jeremy

    It’s only interesting if it is the same price as a PRO. $800 red dots are stupid and a waste.

    • gusto

      aimpoints are well worth it, high end scopes are much more common in general in europe

      you americans are spoiled with great gunlaws that don’t limit the number of guns you own.

      for most of us Swedes and Europeans we have a set number of guns we can own and/or have motivate each one

      we probably spend as much as you guys do shooting/hunting but the cost is divided by less individual guns (handguns and rifles/shotguns

      hence we have more expensive stuff

      I own 10 total(plus some extra barrels) and am not a collector or big competitor and I assume I am under the US average?

      • codfilet

        We call that “A good start”…

      • thedonn007

        That is more than the average American owns.

        • HSR47

          To be entirely fair, the holdings of the “average American gun owner” are both highly speculative (If a stranger knocked on your door and wanted to know how many guns you own, would you answer truthfully?), and they’re distorted some very different legal/cultural attitudes about the fundamental purpose of gun ownership.

          In America, much of our gun culture revolves around self-defense, whereas the gun cultures in most other nations revolve around sporting purposes.

          The relatively strict regulations on gun ownership in the rest of the world tend to restrict gun ownership to people who shoot for sport (hunting, competitive target shooting, etc.), and people who really like guns. In other words, it puts a selection bias on gun ownership that more or less keeps people who aren’t dedicated enthusiasts from getting guns.

          In the United States, our firearm laws are typically far less strict, and using guns in self-defense typically has fairly strong statutory protection. That means that there are a lot of people who own a small number of guns specifically for self-defense. Most of these people only own one or two guns, and most of them aren’t enthusiasts.

          • int19h

            They’re distorted primarily by the fact that most Americans own zero, but those who do own guns, own quite a few. So the average is kinda meaningless. Average number of guns *among owners* would be the interesting number.

          • HSR47

            No, I’m talking about the holdings of the “average American gun owner” not of the “average American.” Every few months, an article pops up somewhere claiming that the average American gun owner only owns 2-4 firearms.

            My point is that this is primarily the result of two factors:

            * Polls of gun owners tend to be inaccurate because gun owners tend to under-report their holdings; and

            * There are a significant number of people in this country who own guns purely for their practical purposes, and not because they like them.

            On the whole, I believe that these two factors account for a lot of the incorrect and incomplete data that we often see the media use: In many other countries, those looking for data can often go straight to the government for basic statistics (i.e. how many licensed gun owners are there, and how many guns are they licensed to own in toto?), whereas in most of the U.S. they have to poll the population at large. Since the population of the U.S. is spread out, and because firearm laws vary widely within the country, getting a valid sample is extremely difficult to start with, and that’s before you factor in the tendency of gun owners to under-report.

            Second, when it comes to using guns for self-defense, I don’t need a lot of guns to do that. For most of the people buying guns for this purpose, the gun is a tool that they will probably never need to use, and they can fully satisfy their needs/desires with only 1-3 guns. For the most part, these are the sort of people who have a handgun in the nightstand and/or a 12-gauge shotgun in the closet. They don’t shoot their gun(s), and they probably rarely even think about them. In most of the rest of the world, this particular demographic simply doesn’t exist. These people also tend to view guns as tools that they could live without, which means that they don’t have as much paranoia about answering the questions of pollsters.

          • Old_Geezer

            Interestingly enough, a 2011 Gallup poll found that 34% of Americans (41% Republican/Republican-leaning vs 28% Democrat/Democrat-leaning) personally owned a firearm, while 51% (43% Republican/Republican-leaning vs 60% Democrat/Democrat-leaning) claimed that that there was no firearm in the household.

            If gun owners tend to under-report while non-gun owners might not realize that a member of their household actually has a firearm, this suggests that far more American households have firearms than revealed by polling. With 56% of polled Americans viewing society as being safer if more Americans carried concealed firearms, it’s quite likely that gun-owning American households are a silent majority.

      • Jeremy

        Aimpoint does make a great product but for us, at least, $800 (the cost of a T2 Aimpoint) we can go buy a good quality 1-4/6/8 power scope magnified optic. The PRO is $350 and is a great value and an excellent hard use optic.

        • Unless you are using night vision you don’t need a T-2. The H-2 has all the same features with the night vision settings removed. Heck the H-1 is still a damn fine optic.

          Also no one ever pays retail.

        • HSR47

          If you’re looking to get a T2, you can buy one from LaRue Tactical along with one of LaRue’s mounts for ~$760 plus shipping. They also sell the H2 in a similar package deal for about $50 less. The mounts alone sell for ~$110 each.

          TLDR: The only people in the U.S. paying MSRP for Aimpoint sights are people who don’t know where to find good deals.

          • uisconfruzed

            I got my T-2 LaRue package for less than $700.
            The Trijicon is very nice, side by side it has more of a blue tint like the T-1. Not quite as nice in low light.

          • HSR47

            I’ve seen a bunch of examples of the Trijicon MRO, and the blue tint seems to be far more variable than on the Aimpoint T1: The Aimpoint T1 sights I’ve seen all seem to have roughly the same degree of blue tint, whereas the MRO sights seem to vary from slightly clearer than the T1 to significantly bluer than the T1.

            I’m not sure why they seem to be so variable, but some of it may be that I’ve seen a bunch of relatively early production sights.

      • iksnilol

        Something like that, besides, guns in general are too good to bother with cheapo optics.

      • John

        If one American owns a thousand guns, another guy owns just a regular shotgun, and eight other people own zero guns, then the average works out to about 100.1 guns per person.

        Gun averages get a little skewed.

      • Sean

        You are correct, the US gun market is much more quantity over quality. In Europe, partly because of limited quantity of ownership, there is more of a focus on quality guns and attachments.

        It is common to see US gun owners with multiple budget-grade AR-15s like M&P Sport, DPMS, and Armalite outfitted with a POS Barska or Truglo red dots. When I was in Europe, Aimpoints were the red dots of choice and all magnified optics were either Zeiss, Swarovski, or S&B. Never have I seen a Countersniper, Barska, or Bushness scope in Europe.

        It doesn’t help either that with all the marketing in the US urging us to buy cheap, inferior Glock and Sig knockoffs like the Ruger American, Remington RAP, R51, etc. we are thought to think that cheap guns are great as long as they are from an American brand like S&W, Ruger, Remington

        • Kogashuko

          Aimpoints and Eotechs were about $200 prior to 911. My 2002 era M2 looks pretty much the same as my newly issued PRO. They play off of the US Gov contract as advertising. I have a AAA running Lucid M7 that runs quite nice as well. As long as people pay it they will charge it. It doesnt necessarily mean it is better.

    • Jeremy

      Ok, everyone is missing my point, why would I pay $400 more than a PRO for a Micro when I receive zero increased performance or ability? Spend $750 on a 1-4/6/8 scope then I can accurately shoot further with positive target ID. So why spend the same amount of money for a Micro Aimpoint and only a 1x dot like the PRO, M4, ACO and the rest?

      • HerbertK

        Some people want lower weight, longer battery life, greater durability, and don’t intend to shoot 250+ yards. LPV scopes are 17 to 30 ounces before the mount, battery life is in the hundreds of hours, and they are less durable in both shock and water resistance compared to single power optics. The T2 with mount is as low as 5 oz, has 3+ year battery life, and is ultra reliable. It has infinite eye relief and a larger eye box. The etched reticle on an LPV is useable in good lighting conditions, but on a bedside gun you can’t just leave it on for instant red-dot use or battery dies within weeks. As for the weight difference, no matter how strong you are, a lighter rifle will always be less fatiguing, faster handling, and less of a distraction. If weight is no issue because you’re not humping the rifle much, then sure a good LPV like a Trijicon with dual illumination makes more sense.

      • uisconfruzed
    • USMC03Vet

      But they agency name dropped, bruh. + $300 mark up to filthy pleb civilian market compared to what they are selling it for to said organization.

    • CavScout

      Go be poor and uncommitted somewhere else.

      • Jeremy

        You sound like that doughs bag Gabe Suarez who just throws out insults about someone’s supposed financial status or physical fitness level when he can’t defend his position, question his product or kick one of his sacred cows.

    • dubsak20

      How about the Elcans ? $2000.00

  • Giolli Joker

    One year of wait is good for setting aside 70$/month.

  • Anonymoose

    Call me when they release the M5S version.

    • Probably not happening, at least as the circuit board design exists now it can’t be moved down low.

      • Anonymoose

        :C

  • Tet

    Can’t wait

  • Brett baker

    I’ll wait until utg makes $350 knock-off that’s just as good. Then again I’m not climbing mountains(but I am beating it to death in a tractor).

    • Zach Robinson

      “Just as good” is very subjective. For riding around in a tractor the UTG will probably serve your needs just fine, but “just as good as Aimpoint” and UTG do not belong in the same sentence.

    • The_Automator

      If you think anything UTG has ever dreamed of making is as good as Aimpoint, well, hey, check this bridge out. I can sell it to you for a steal.

  • Harry’s Holsters

    Sig, Holosun or primary arms will probably have a similar product before the aimpoint hits the consumer market.

  • Richard Lutz

    Don’t see much point to using it over the T2, though AAA batteries are harder to lose than the 2032 button batteries used in the T2 and can be used in flashlights as well.

  • dubsak20

    Dang . I was ready to unload on a T2 . Now I gotta wait for the AAA !

  • uisconfruzed

    I’m quite pleased with my T-1 & T-2.
    More interesting than a larger battery scabbed on the side, that may not have any more life than the CR2032, is the objective lens looks larger.