Silencer Shop Announces The Return Of Dead Air Armament

Last year we had the pleasure of an extended interview with Mike Pappas and Gary Hughes of MOD Outfitters – a creative outlet for the pair’s public facing silencer company Dead Air Armament. Along with designer/engineer Todd Magee, they have brought sought after features and attachments to the rapidly growing silencer market. Besides our talk about suppressors and AKs, we discussed the business relationship with powerhouse NFA distributor Silencer Shop.

MOD Outfitters And Dead Air @ TFB June 2016:

We spent most of the interview laughing, joking around and talking about strictly fun stuff, but I did want to ask about the Dead Air – Silencer Shop history and (possible) future. If you don’t already know, Silencer Shop was once a distributor for Dead Air Armament products. “It was strictly a difference in the way both companies do business,” said Pappas. “We are still friends with all the guys at Silencer Shop and wish them nothing but the best.” The way it stands now, Pappas doesn’t see Dead Air products returning to Silencer Shop’s distribution network.

Luckily for both the industry and consumers alike, times are changing. As of yesterday, the complete Dead Air product catalog is now available for purchase through the Silencer Shop system. The details of the deal that brought the companies back together are private (and frankly not important) but it gives the consumer access to arguably the most efficient process to purchase Dead Air silencers.


In addition, rumors are flying about a soon-to-be announced new Dead Air silencer release; hopefully I will be back soon with additional details.

Photos courtesy of Gary Hughes and Mike Pappas.


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  • JumpIf NotZero

    Translation: No one is making money on silencers right now, can’t afford to be enemies.

    • TheUnspoken

      Nothing wrong with that, silencershop with my local powered by dealer is both cheaper and easier; all the other shops’ local to me have sky high prices for the limited available stock and high NFA transfer fees if I wanted to transfer in from another dealer. My dealer likes it too, he would rather just store them and get his SS payment than stock a bunch of inventory and handle paperwork.

    • Pete – TFB Writer

      Negativity… how surprising

      • JumpIf NotZero

        Really? That- is negative to you?

        Ok. Maybe you’re right and the silencer industry is just booming right now.

        • Pete – TFB Writer

          I retract. It sounded a lot more negative in my head. I probably shouldn’t respond when exhausted.

      • Giolli Joker

        More like cynicism.
        Probably well motivated in this case.

  • Big.Little.Kid

    I NEED a PBS-1. Like bad. This is not good for my wallet.

    • PK

      Depending on your mechanical ability and toolset, they’re dead simple to make. Very basic internals, not the quietest or the lightest, but very functional.

      Extremely Russian, in other words.

      • Big.Little.Kid

        I’ll just file the form 4 and let the professionals handle it for me, lol.

        • PK

          Fair enough, I just wanted to mention the option.

      • 8166PC1

        If they’re so simple to make then why doesn’t every gun owner in America have them? I think this idea of people conjuring up effective suppressors in their garage is more fiction than reality.

        • PK

          The reason is the $200 tax, I expect. As far as being simple, the baffles are very primitive flat geometry. No K, no M, nothing. Just your basic rod spaced flat baffle can.

          The PBS, while good at removing the blast and noise, certainly isn’t effective in the modern context of 60° cones for supersonic use.

          • 8166PC1

            You would have to be pretty poor for only 200$ to set you back. And if suppressors were easy enough to make then criminals would be using them, yet suppressors are rarely used in crimes in the USA I’m sure.

          • Anonymoose

            Suppressors are rarely used in crimes because it’s hard to conceal a 2-liter bottle stuffed with cotton balls and duct-taped to your Hi-Point .380, and most homemade suppressors wouldn’t stand up to a burst from a MAC-11/9 or chopped-off WASR that you opened up out of the side of a rusty panel van with. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8d0b423500d8ec603da31db30dd813796eec53d4b1be7bab4a5fd2817238cc01.jpg

          • PK

            Oh, great, now I need to watch Hayate again.

          • Herp

            A suppressor would be nearly useless for the commission of any crime except assassination.

            Also, easy to make doesn’t necessarily translate to often made. For example, I don’t have a house fire right now, which I want about as badly as a criminal wants more weapon charges piled on if he’s caught.

            Criminals, for the most part, are profoundly lazy and dim. These are the types who drive around without mufflers on their cars, let alone their guns.

          • lucusloc

            The reason criminals do not use them is bulk, same reason they do not use rifles. Criminals want tools that are easy to hide, and that means pistols. Adding a suppressor just makes them less easy to hide, and unlike the movies real suppressors do not make the gun silent, they just reduce the noise to barely hearing safe levels.

        • Juggernaut

          You would be surprised at the # of “off the books” suppressors out there

          • lucusloc

            A two liter bottle, a box of steel wool and a roll of duck tape; constructive intent?

        • lucusloc

          I don’t know a guy who made a lawnmower muffler that accidentally fit the bayonet lug on his Mosin Nagant. Apparently it was quite effective. On the lawnmower that is, not on the rifle. That would be illegal.

          In all seriousness, suppressors are just as easy to make as an engine muffler. The only difficult engineering part is making them small and effective at the same time. If you want cheap and easy, you need more internal volume to get the same effect, which means more weight and bulk. You can make an effective .22 suppressor an inch across and a few inches long with a lot of cost and R&D, or you can make one just as effective but the size of a 2 liter bottle for no cost or effort at all. It all depends on what your goals are.

          In the current market the $200 floor dictates that consumers want well engineered and durable products, which push the price up a lot higher. When the HPA passes you can expect to see a lot of cheap, practically disposable models hit the market place. Sure they may need twice the volume for the same DB reduction, but if you can get it for $15 and all you want it for is to more quietly bump fire your AK then who cares?

      • Pete – TFB Writer

        The Dead Air PBS 1 is nothing like its Russian cousin on the inside.

        • PK

          Interesting! Thank you very much for the correction.

          I have to imagine it would be hard not to exceed the original design performance by going with any relatively modern baffle design. Might you have a picture of the internals to share?

  • Jeff Smith
    • Southpaw89

      I have and FR-8 and never thought of suppressing it until I saw this, now I need to or my life will be incomplete.

  • Anonymoose
  • The comments below look like a /K/ thread from 4Chan.

    • Twilight sparkle

      There’s a lot of people from /k/ that frequent this site