BEHIND ENEMY LINES: Five Of The Best Ban State Products

Credit: Phase 5 Weapon Systems

It is easy for those of us who live in states without “assault weapon” ban (or worse) restrictions to thumb our nose at shooters in California, New York and New Jersey. Some of the compliant builds I have seen would make any respectable shooter want to cry. But how does the saying go: “walk a mile in a man’s shoes”? Having lived in enemy territory for a decade, I can sympathize with our range-loving brothers and sisters being held captive by ridiculous regulations.

Sure, I can see the comments section filling up now: “shall not be infringed”, “will not comply” or better yet  “F*** California”. It may seem simple to just brush off whole sections of the country as lost when you don’t know anyone who lives there. But, if you have family or shooting buddies in California or New York, you may actually start to sympathize with their plight and understand why they buy, build and use the guns and gear they do.

As a writer here at TFB, I probably haven’t done a great job at highlighting the important work being done by manufacturers catering to restricted-style products. So in an attempt to turn things around, I asked for help from the social media powerhouse #hashtagtical who works alongside organizations like The Calguns Foundation to promote responsible gun ownership in California. Of course, we steer clear from politics here, but any organization that promotes the safe and legal use of firearms obviously gets my support.

 

Now, “top 5” lists can be annoying and seem like click bait – you know, like the rags in the grocery line with headlines that read ‘41 ways to please your… Boss’. And we’ve reported on a few of these products before. However, I’d like to start with this story, take input from our readers, and move forward with additional products in the future. Have a suggestion? Leave a comment, send me an email or follow us on social media.

Behind Enemy Lines? Check These Out:

Mean Arms Mag Loader

Our new MA-Loader is a California compliant, 10-round bullet loading device that will allow you to safely and efficiently reload your fixed magazine without the need to break down the firearm. Simply place the MA-Loader into your AR-15’s ejector port and press the thumb-ring slider to quickly load or reload. It is that simple!**


The AR Mag Lock

AR MAGLOCK allows California AR-15 owners to comply with existing fixed magazine laws, thus avoiding Department of Justice registration. The AR MAGLOCK engages the magazine so it stays “fixed” in the firearm until the action is disassembled, complying with California SB 880 & AB 1135, and Department of Justice regulations. It is our reasonable belief the AR MAGLOCK complies with New York NY SAFE , Connecticut, Maryland, New Jersey and other states (and other local municipalities such as Cook County Illinois) detachable magazine laws based on our in depth analysis of these laws and regulations.


Strike Industries:

The Strike Industries Simple Featureless grip matches the contour of our popular Enhanced Pistol Grip, but allows for usage in feature restricted jurisdictions. The SFG requires no permanent modification to the receiver of your host system, and is constructed of durable reinforced polymer. As suggested by the name, the SFG a simple and affordable component for your featureless AR build.


Cross Armory Quick Pins

By removing your rear takedown pin and installing Cross Armory’s QUICK PINS you will enjoy improved convenience when breaking down your weapon. QUICK PINS allow for easy opening and servicing of your weapon with a simple pinch of your fingers. Closing and locking your receivers together is as easy a closing the two receivers together, QUICK PINS will automatically lock your receivers into place. QUICK PINS allow for the easiest access to your firing mechanism.


LWRCI CA Compliant Modifications

FROM MILES V.’s SHOT 2017 COVERAGE: LWRC’s answer to the new California compliance laws is a sort of spring operated plunger that deactivates the magazine release once the upper receiver is assembled onto the lower receiver. Field stripping the rifle and ‘popping the top’ allows the plunger to be released, and the magazine to be released naturally by pressing the magazine button. To facilitate the field strip, LWRC has extended the rear take down pin to include a sort of port that makes gripping it easier, but also allows for a piece of 550 cord or likewise material to be threaded through the port and creating a loop to pop the rear take down pin out. Unlike other companies that have a specific Cali-Legal rifle variant, LWRC has this as an option, wherein most of the companies models can be retrofitted with the plunging device and rear take down pin. Currently it is patent-pending, but it has been approved by the California DOJ.


Bonus: Franklin Armory DFM Magazines and Bolt Catch

Enemy

  • Magazine for use in restrictive jurisdictions such as California, Connecticut,
    and even New York State!
  • Easily Converts Any AR into a 10 Round, Fixed Magazine Design.
  • Requires Disassembly of the Action to Remove the Magazine.
  • No Permanent Alterations Required
  • Suitable for use with Rifles Featuring Banned Features.
  • California Compliant!
  • Connecticut Compliant!
  • New York Safe Act Compliant!
  • Limiting Tabs Prevent Release Through the Bottom of Magazine Well.
  • Can only be Removed from the Top when the Upper is Tilted out of the way!
  • Available as an Accessory or Installed in Brand New Franklin ArmoryTM Firearms.

#featureless #scar16 #scar17 @fnh_usa #guns

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  • USMC03Vet

    Hopefully the US Supreme Court delivers and turns the growing tide of blatantly unconstitutional restrictions on firearms upside down and liberates these poor folks. This idea that you can pseudo ban and make firearm owners continually jump through ridiculous hoops to even hold and operate the firearm essentially redesigning it via leaguation is incredibly transparent infringement.

    Those wraps preventing proper grip and control of a rifle are simply dangerous.

    • 8166PC1

      Just because you don’t like assault weapon bans it doesn’t mean it’s unconstitutional.

      Justice Antonin Scalia, states: “Like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited…”. It is “…not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.”

      • victory0311

        What other right do you know that is regulated like that of the 2nd? I can tell you that if your right to an attorney or right of free speech was infringed upon as much as the 2nd, It would be overturned in a day!

        • Cory C

          That’s a fair point, but I will point out that, at one point in time, both of those rights were infringed upon with reckless abandon. It took recognition of those rights by the court to (as applied to specific infringements, not just a general recognition of the right) in order for those rights to become part of the common understanding.

      • HSR47

        At the risk of getting too far into politics here, there’s a difference between “reasonable regulation” and unconstitutional laws.

        With voting, it’s arguable that voter registration statutes constitute REASONABLE regulation. On the other hand it is a matter of established case law that literacy tests and poll taxes are unconstitutional. The verdict is still out on various voter ID statutes.

        With the first amendment, you can say whatever you want but certain kinds of speech (i.e. libel/slander and the classic example of falsely yelling fire in a crowded theater) can result in civil/criminal consequences. That is REASONABLE regulation. Of import here is that there is no prior restraint on what you’re allowed to say, but that some forms of speech that cause illegal harm to others can result in civil and/or criminal consequences.

        With firearms, many of the federal and state laws currently on the books arguably go significantly further towards establishing prior restraints than the courts have allowed for any other enumerated right; Unlike with speech, gun laws often act to prevent peaceable citizens from possessing items based on the notion that those people might criminally misuse them. As a result, that’s both bad policy (because criminals don’t obey laws), and it’s arguably unconstitutional.

        • Cory C

          Bingo.

        • RetiredSOFguy

          Just to amplify on your points:

          The voting registration comparison highlights how registration is not designed to be prohibitive to the individual. Showing you live in your precinct and are eligible to vote under the statutory requirements are like a simple state of being where all are exactly equal. Taxes and tests change that impartiality to the harm of some.

          Same for free speech. You can say what you want in your own home, but to libel/slander, “yell fire in a theater” etc now bring with them harm on others.

          That’s the point of Constitutionality really. When you misuse your rights to the harm of others, then the harmful action itself, as a consequence of the right is what is fair game for restriction.

          If only that were the case with firearms. Murder someone with a firearm, pay the price. But that shouldn’t stop me from owning a suppressed, automatic SBR with no additional burden.

          The saddest thing is, the precedent we’ve allowed as Americans to be established with the 2nd Amendment is now full steam ahead with the left in their attacks on the 1st, 4th and 5th.

          • Cory C

            Remember when the left were the ones who were all jazzed about expanding the protection afforded by the 1st? We live in a bizarre time.

      • SPQR9

        Guess what, that vague quote does not really support your argument. Its not a holding. Heller’s holding is that the Second Amendment prohibits prohibition of firearms that are ” in common use”, and given that Americans possess many millions of AR pattern rifles, as well as other patterns of semi-auto rifle, they are protected. Nothing says “in common use” like being sold on the shelves of Walmart.

      • Cory C

        You can’t possibly claim to know that an assault weapon ban is constitutionally supported based on Heller, for two reasons: First, the plain-faced interpretation of Heller is that arbitrary gun regulations are a violation of the second amendment, so it strains credulity to suggest that Scalia spent a few thousand words excoriating the position of revisionist historians who tried to argue that the state has the authority to arbitrarily regulate guns only to turn around and, in the sentences you provided, endorse an assault weapons ban. That would indeed be an interpretative overreach. Second, you can’t possibly claim to know because the matter has not been adjudicated.

        Nevertheless, we can make educated guesses at how the court may rule in such matters based on the way the case law boxes them in. If you intend to honor the rule of law and therefore do not wish to carve out special exceptions for the second amendment that wouldn’t hold water with any other constitutionally protected right, it’s easy to see how the position taken by those who seek to undermine the second amendment is not supported by the body of constitutional case law. Even the most seemingly-apparent overreaches of the federal government that are ultimately vindicated by SCOTUS are still applied with parity to the application of all other constitutionally protected rights. Ergo, much of the knee-jerk, “Derp, but the Founding Fathers never could have anticipated assault rifles,” falls apart using the same logic that allows the first amendment to apply to online speech.

        So, sure, Scalia indeed said that the second amendment doesn’t mean that all gun regulations are unconstitutional, but the whole point of the Heller decision is to say that the second amendment does indeed recognize an individual right and that said right can’t be arbitrarily violated.

      • markrb

        Our Rights are INALIENABLE. We’ve been brainwashed into believing that people in robes and politicians are the only ones who can interpret the Constitution. The Constitution DOES NOT grant us our rights….it’s purpose is for PROTECTING our INALIENABLE RIGHTS from a tyrannical government.

        • richard kluesek

          Yes, just like the idea robed judges and ‘toga’ clothed politicians are the sole interpreters of liberties, it was once thought that only regally clad archbishops and crazed hermit monks in sackcloth and ashes were the sole interpreters of scripture and privy to the will of God.

      • Samuel

        Stop calling it an assault weapon ban. It is a ban on semi-automatic rifles that have some of the features found on true assault weapons, sans the actual feature that would make it an assault weapon; a fully automatic mode of fire.

    • Scott Connors

      The wrap-around grips are surprisingly ergonomic when used with a thumb rest for the firing hand and an ambidextrous selector. Ban states are going to be very surprised at what their fiats are about to bring about, and not in a good way.

    • ONTIME

      I too would like to see the SCOTUS step in on these harsh gun amend blocks…..

  • .45

    Aren’t some places limited to 7 round mags, or is that just pistols?

    Anyway, maybe it is just because I’m more interested in wood and steel bolt actions anyway, but I wouldn’t even bother with an evil black rifle if it had to be so neutered. (And I suppose in many respects, that is exactly what “they” want…)

    • Nandor

      NYC is limited to 5 round mags for rifles and 10 for pistols. NY Governor Cuomo passed the SAFE Act limiting all mags to 7 rounds, but it was quickly changed because it would effectively ban 95% of all pistols on the market. They changed it to 10 round mags, but everyone can only load 7 in there while not at a range. The 2nd circuit court of appeals ruled on the lawsuit about this, that 7 in a 10 is unconstitutional. They didn’t say limiting everyone to 7 round mags was unconstitutional, just that you can’t make people with legal 10 rounders put in only 7. If this were to stand at the SCOTUS level, get ready for 5 round mag limits for the country.

      • DAN

        You are correct and an unconstitutional limit on magazines at the federal level would stand thanks to the Heller decision which eviscerated the real meaning of the 2nd Amendment, which is a defense against tyranny, into a “right” to only defend yourself against robbers, rapists, and other criminals in which a revolver or handgun with 10 rounds or less or a hunting longarm is adequate enough. The NRA claims this a victory when Heller decision states that “assault weapons” bans and “hi-cap” magazine bans are perfectly legal. Now Trump is pushing for a liberal, anti-gun, leftist Joe Lieberman to head the FBI which oversees some firearms related activities and conservatives are giving Trump a free pass – I must be living in the Twilight Zone.

        • iowaclass

          Thank you. I thought I was the only one who could see how Scalia sold us out.

          • DAN

            And we have no idea about Gorsuch although the NRA is high fiving themselves along with the Trumpsters. I have never seen a photo of Gorsuch with anything but a fishing pole in his hands outdoors and there is no article available anywhere that speaks of him being an owner of a firearm – if there is, he is probably a Fudd. Sure he does not have to be a gun owner to rule in favor of the 2nd Amendment but look at who else the NRA endorsed over the years: Reagan – banned machine-guns and endorsed “assault weapons” and “hi-cap” magazine bans both domestic and imported, Bush 1 – banned imported “assault weapons” after his “no new gun laws” campaign promise, Bush 2 – was in favor of a permanent domestic “assault weapons” ban and now we have Trump who was in favor of an “assault weapons” and “hi-cap” magazine ban just five years ago and who is currently placing liberal democrats in places of power. You don’t have to be a fortune teller to see how presidential anti-gun actions could be on the horizon.

          • DT

            “and who is currently placing liberal democrats in places of power.”

            maybe, just maybe it isn’t a left/right thing. maybe it is 2A supporters v. the anti-gun nuts. Our biggest and best “defender,” the NRA sold us out a long time ago.. we are only good as a wedge issue to push republican politics now.

          • RetiredSOFguy

            Which is why I left the GOP decades ago.

            I’m all about a 3rd party (TEA party for real, anyone?) that would be based on and ardently defend the Constitution. Dem and dem-lite as the only real options pretty much sucks.

        • No Retreat

          WHO WILL GUARD THE GUARDS

  • BattleshipGrey

    I like those mag loaders, but last I checked the price was almost triple what a 30 round pmag cost. But I suppose if I were behind enemy lines, I’d probably buy some.

    • Zach

      It’s big for AR pistol owners; since we have no choice but fixed mag now, it lets us at least go from Single Action Army to Mauser C96 as far as tech goes.

      • iksnilol

        Meh, a cut in the upper so that you could use actual stripper clips would be better. Like a VZ 58.

        Sure, you wouldn’t be able to mount your reddot far forward, but that’s a small sacrifice.

  • BattleshipGrey

    Off topic but anyone know where Edward O is? Haven’t seen any posts from him for a while.

    • Dougscamo

      Agreed….nor have I heard anything out of TheNotoriousIUD in the comments…of course I could have missed them due to devoting time to hunting and reloading countless numbers of shells for my AR instead of my computer….

  • It warms my heart to see American Ingenuity™ on display like this; whatever crapulous regulation the hellhole states come up with, someone will figure out a way to keep on’ truckin’ anyway through the magic of tiny pieces of milled steel and aluminum.

    It also really highlights the lack of critical thinking skills involved in support for gun control: none of these clever little devices– or the inane laws which make them necessary– affects the ability of a rifle to put a bullet downrange one ding-dong bit.

    • Cory C

      Yup.

  • Maxpwr

    I’d rather have a straight pull or pump action AR with all the features like they use in England than a goofed up stock or have to remove a pin every time i want to reload. I guess most people in Kalifornistan don’t, so the market has not produced manually operating ARs in large quantities. But if they ban all ceenter fire semi auto rifles in CA as some have proposed then the people will bow down berore their fellow socialist citizen overlords and politicians and start buying manually operated rifles. Embrace the suck.

    • Independent George

      There’s the Troy Pump Action Rifle.

      • Dakota Raduenz

        By Troy.
        Troy.
        They who hire poorly.

        • No Retreat

          D Raduenz..if more firearm and freedom lovers like you would do a little research on troy employees, troy couldn’t sell their products and would be HISTORY. the Truth and Tragedy of the Randy, Vicky, Sammy Family will never be FORGOTTEN.
          WHO WILL GUARD THE GUARDS

    • EC

      You can get a Remington 7615 if you can find it. Not an AR, but takes AR magazines and some furniture.

      There’s also the Mossberg MVP series. Also not an AR and bolt-action instead of pump, but again takes AR magazines (and with the right stock, some AR furniture).

      Not everything needs to be an AR.

      • Maxpwr

        Remington 7615s are long gone. I do like the MVP and have one even though I live in a free state. No, not everything needs to be an AR, but having a pistol grip and keeping your other arm on the action/fore-end while firing helps in some situations rather than a bolt.

  • Django

    Isn’t it funny the non free states like Ca, N.J., & N.Y. are always IMAGED as having tough people, yet they allow them selves to be subjugated and intimidated by all sorts of B.S. laws! I mean talk about weak!

    • Parnell

      What do you expect those of us who disagree with the majority sheeple? Overthrow the government by force of arms?

      • Django

        DO NOT COMPLY!!!! Heller sued, so did MacDonald!

        Since when did The Bill Of Rights become states rights? Could I be a catholic in WV but not CA, can I protest in ID but not NJ, Can I be illegally searched in Co but not in ME//? How are gun laws not in violation of both 2nd and even more importantly the14th amendment?

        Do libtards not recognize Miller, Heller and McDonald, but they recognize ROE V WADE??? What would happen if let’s say KY did not recognize Roe v. Wade? You are already seeing what happens when bakers, do NOT make gay wedding cakes? If you are subjugated by SHEEPLE who are politically more active, seems as though all you need is a good attorney fight fire with fire! Heller and MacDonald did, and they WON! Do Miller, Heller and MacDonald not presidents enough??????????

        How long has the Sullivan Act been law in NY??? Has anyone litigated it’s constitutionality, ever? How’s about the SAFE ACT?

        Taking up arms to overthrow the gvt. is unnecessary, people behind enemy lines di not even do the simple procedure of NON compliance, not to mention litigation!

        • DT

          real tough talk.

          tell you what.. how about you come out and help? Come to CA, get yourself charged with weapons violations and then file those suits. I’ll hold onto your guns for you, that way you won’t lose them when they come to confiscate while your felony weapons charges are pending.

          • RetiredSOFguy

            I don’t think Heller and the other 5 plaintiffs or McDonald and the other three plaintiffs were ever charged with weapons violations, yet they still had standing.

            I’d like to see the NRA, SAF and some CA gun orgs challenge their state laws, as well as folks in NY and NJ. Django is right, in my opinion, to advocate for using the legal system as opposed to all the hot air, arm chair commandos who talk about an actual armed insurrection.

            As for me, as an Endowment member of the NRA and a frequent contributor to various grass roots gun orgs, and a frequent caller to our local weekly radio gun show. I vote and try to stay involved, putting my time and money where my mouth is. What more would you have me or Django do? I’m not sure your and Norm Glitz (above)’s beef with what he wrote.

        • Norm Glitz

          Hot air.

          Try it yourself.

          • jcitizen

            I’d do it – the tactic worked well for the civil rights activist in the ’60s. They can’t flood the jails forever.

          • Norm Glitz

            Greta idea. Get arrested & spend some time in jail. Lose all of your guns and anything related. Not just the one that gets their attention, ALL of them. Lose your job. “Innocent until proven guilty” Don’t bet on it.

            Then you get to hire a lawyer. Last I heard, they’re not cheap. “Got a retirement plan? Have a motorcycle? Boat? What else you got?” sez any lawyer. Lose the local court case. Appeals cost even more. Will the state org help? Will the NRA? Wanna bet?

            Go to the SCOTUS. Best of luck, kiddo.

          • jcitizen

            Let those of us that have nothing to lose do the sacrifices for you.

    • trjnsd

      According to stats from U-Haul, their one-way rentals are going from Commiefornia to the great state of Texas….people are fleeing here.

      • jcitizen

        Texans don’t want people from California – they know they will bring their stupid political ideas with them. When I lived in San Antonio, there was a HUGE battle to block the development of the Applewhite reservoir, because they knew if the water usage was expanded the California population would come with it – they lost that battle.

        • Dougscamo

          Looks like Colorado suffered the same fate years ago…

          • jcitizen

            Yep – too many moved there, so now they get stupid magazine ban laws. And the price of real estate is off the hook – a poor man hasn’t got a chance.

          • frankspeak

            …and now it’s nevada’s turn…what a polluting presence!

        • Cory C

          I’m a Texan and I welcome everyone from California who is tired of California.

  • Independent George

    I’m pretty new to rifles, so please forgive my ignorance on this question. Are there any open-top semi-autos that can be loaded with stripper clips? Assuming they were modified to fixed-mags, would they be compliant?

    • Vet for Trump

      M1 Garand, fixed magazine, 8 round en-bloc clip.

      • Phil Hsueh

        The M1A can be loaded via stripper clips as well.

    • Phillip Shen

      VZ 58 as well

    • Porty1119

      FAL in some configurations, and yes.

    • Holdfast_II

      SKS. Already fixed-mag, but can be modified to removable.

  • RSG

    I can’t help but wonder at what point that We the People choose, instead of neutering our guns, we start using them?

    • Anomanom

      At the point that you’re so tired of living within the rules that you decide that suicide by police, national guard, army, etc. is a preferable choice. How much do you think you will exceed the battle-hardened and fanatical troops of the Taliban, Al-Qaeda, and IS which you will most resemble and against which US forces have been honing their skills through 15 years of nearly constant warfare.

      And that is not a political comment or a knock against gun ownership, just a realistic assessment of the relative positions.

      • RSG

        Some numbers to think about when (not if) we get to that point. There are 1 million law enforcement officers in the US combined on the local, state and federal (all alphabet groups) level. I expect 75% of them to follow unconstitutional orders because most of them are scumbags. As far as our military, they will not fire on their mothers and fathers, brothers and sisters, husbands and wives, nor their sons and their daughters. Liberals love to believe that the “army” is going to swoop in to protect a tyrannical govt. I can guarantee that after Katrina, it will not happen. They are more likely to turn their weapons on those that have those orders. Furthermore, there are close to 400 million guns (and an estimated 10 BILLION rounds) in the hands of 100 million citizens. If we use a historical, yet conservative number of 3% who are ready, willing and able to fight, die and kill to preserve our rights, that’s 3 million very heavily armed people. Let’s not forget what a 10,000 man insurgency looked like in Iraq and Afghanistan. Except here, we’ll be fighting on the same soil as those that would give such orders. Where names and addresses are in the public domain. When there’s nothing to stop an assault team kicking down their doors in the middle of the night where they’ll be killed while sleeping in their beds next to their wives and down the hall from their children. How many will continue to give/follow those orders in that kind of climate? When American Patriots have had enough of these Liberal Terrorists™, We the People can/will restore this country to what our Founders intended. The sooner we start, the sooner my child may know peace.

        • Pete – TFB Writer

          If you think the percentages of scumbags within MIL/LE/CIV are different from each other, I have a bridge to sell you. People are people. Mob think will take over.

          Plus the majority of all those personal guns and ammo are owned by MIL/LE types.

          • RSG

            Pete, there’s like 2 million veterans from the recent wars. When push comes to shove, what side are the overwhelming majority gonna choose? That’s rhetorical so you don’t have to answer. I already know. They’ll fight with the people.

        • Anomanom

          Oh come now, do you think that the majority of the military will reject orders when called upon to defend the people of the United States against “enemies foreign and domestic”? Especially when sizable portion, if not a great majority of citizens will be calling on them to do just that in the face of an armed uprising. I’m sure some would, of course, but probably not a great many. And this isn’t the civil war wherein two sides are equal in armament. This is an era of planes, drones, armoured vehicles, and satellites. It wouldn’t exactly be a fair fight.

          And what of those 100 million of armed citizens? Do you think all of them would side with you, or would many stand in opposition?

  • Dougscamo

    When will Radio Free America begin broadcasting to our brothers and sisters behind the enemy lines? “The chair is against the door….The chair is against the door”…

    • Maxpwr

      Wall. The chair is against the wall.

      • John Bonanno

        John has a big moustache. John has a big moustache

        • Maxpwr

          Long. John has a long mustache.

          • Dougscamo

            See?! I’m not the only one!

      • Dougscamo

        Drat! That’s what I get working from memory….must have been another broadcast….

      • iksnilol

        Ain’t gonna stop nobody from bashing down your door if it is against the wall, now is it?

    • USMC03Vet

      RIP Powers Boothe

      • Dougscamo

        You’ve read my mind….as he said in Tombstone…”Well….bye”

    • B-Sabre

      “Wounds my heart with a monotonous languor.”
      – One of the French code phrases broadcast by the BBC just prior to the D-Day invasion.

    • Cory C

      Wall, bro. The chair is against THE WALL. 😉

  • Phillip Shen

    Well, I live behind these enemy lines. It is rather unfortunate, as there’s simply not enough of us to win against our our fellow CA anti-gun zerglings.

    We’re trying our best here to change the culture, but that’s tough because the only real way I’ve found is to bring people to the range, and that’s a very slow process (and also, not guaranteed to get someone enthusiastic enough to fight against gun control).

    So yes, the only saving grace we have is the ingenuity of people like Darin Prince, or we are hoping for a hail mary from the SC on Peruta and future rulings on magazine bans, AW bans, etc.

    • sdf

      The only way is when somebody that supports self defence dead in criminal hands because he wasnt enough armed, make RESPONSIBLE to anti-guns.
      Its funny how some anti-gun really arent worried by guns, they only write in their political 101 that “many gun owners think different politically, gun owners are enemy”, but they empatize with criminals.

  • Keiichi

    So much for “no pilitics”. This post doesn’t even have one of Patrick’s “ignore the title and content, we don’t do politics” disclaimers…

    • Pete – TFB Writer

      Seriously?

      • Keiichi

        Yes. If the slogan is a policy which justifies writers berating commenters that the site doesn’t address politics, and is significant enough for Steve to have written a post specifically and explicitly reiterating that it is a hardline policy, then I will take every opportunity to call out the hipocracy of posts which violate it.

        Would you like me to quote the statements in your article which illustrate how you violated the policy?

        • Pete – TFB Writer

          Go for it if it makes you feel better. But regulations and laws are not politics. You are playing semantics. You know exactly the point of this story and it has nothing to do with politics.

          And to your point, I never berated anyone, so I don’t feel I deserve your angst. If you have an issue with a TFB member, use the contact page and express your grievances.

          No reason to click if you are just going to get worked up.

          • Keiichi

            I’m playing semantics?

            Laws and regulations are inherently political, and an article which calls places which have onerous gun laws “behind enemy lines”, among other political statements, is expressing political opposition to those laws and regulations.

            You’re right, though, about your own behavior – you have always been respectful, and I appreciate that. If I offended you, I apologize.

            My angst, as you put it, is not directed toward individual writers, but rather the ridiculous site policy and hypocrisy of writers like you having to play semantic games to get around it. Given that, direct messaging individual writers would not achieve anything.

          • Lou

            Good answer. If anyone thinks that they can truly 100% separate the gun industry from politics they have to be out of their mind. I wish that this was not a political issue and I could just enjoy my rights and my hobby (and career ) but for the past 45 years when I started shooting – this has never been the case unfortunately.

          • Keiichi

            See, but that’s just the thing… you can’t separate the two, but because of the slogan which has become official site policy, we get these ridiculous claims that articles about political aspects of firearms aren’t political.

            I personally would like to see the no politics policy done away with, and leave it to the writers to choose what they address, and leave it to the commenters to have respectful discussions about them.

          • Lou

            That may be a good idea but I must say that TFB has done the hard job of keeping politics out as much as possible. It just can’t be done all of the time.

          • Keiichi

            Precisely.

          • Pete – TFB Writer

            Maybe we are miscommunicating. My definition of politics is D vs R. L vs C. Partisan debate. By “behind enemy lines” I mean gun vs non-gun.

            As it stands now, I have been free to write about the HPA and featureless products without being reigned in as being political.

            The bosses haven’t told me to stop yet, but again, I think your definition of “not politics” is different than mine.

            All the same, I do appreciate you reading and commenting.

          • Keiichi

            Fair enough.

            The understanding of the word “politics” that I’m using for the purposes of posts on this site is the one expressly stated by Steve and other editors/writers on the site, one of whom responded to another post of yours on another article, where you expressed that very sentiment, and said that you had misspoken – “politics” for the purpose of the site policy was not limited to partisanship, but all politics, full stop.

            I look forward to reading your future posts. Thanks for your patience with me 😅

          • Pete – TFB Writer

            Yikes. I said that? I may have to eat my words. Do you remember what post that was?

          • Pete – TFB Writer

            I found it. I see where you could have interpreted it that way.

            Look, it’s not easy. I admit it. But Steve and Phil run the show. They will let me know when my content doesn’t fit TFB.

            We aren’t perfect, but I have no problem saying TFB is the best firearms blog in the known universe.

          • Keiichi

            On that, sir, we agree.

        • Holdfast_II

          These laws and regulations are, effectively, the RESULT of politics – but this post is not about the relative merits of such policies. It’s just a list of [kinda] fun guns you can but while remaining law-abiding.

  • DAN

    I see that NJ is mentioned but it is my understanding that in NJ you can own an post-1994 type semi auto with a 15rd magazine; fixed/pinned stock, welded on muzzle brake, no bayonet lug, detachable magazine, and pistol grips are OK. Doesn’t seem to be a real need for any of these devices in NJ unless someone would want a folding stock or flashider, etc. and would give up another feature like detachable magazine.

    • Parnell

      You’re right. I’ve learned to live without those features but I’ll be damned if I’d accept a “bullet button” or some other half-assed legislated “safety measure”.

  • Pete – TFB Writer

    Perfect. Thank you! This is exactly what I’m looking for. Pin this post.

    I’ll include those in the next installment.

  • No Retreat

    My take on this AW registration requirement in CA. is when you register your AR as a ASSAULT WEAPON the STATE accepts the FACT you now process a “MILITARY STYLE ASSAULT WEAPON CAPABLE OF DISCHARGING MULTIPLE CARTRIDGES WITH A SINGLE TRIGGER PULL”
    as defined in the dictionary. (Can CA. redefine the definition of words in the dictionary?) I can then legally covert to a true AW. Ca. once again, by giving me this option, overrides FEDERAL FIREARM LAWS. Note- our State and Federal congressmen have also described the AR-15 as a military style assault weapon.
    Thank you LIBERAL CONGRESSMEN.
    WHO WILL GUARD THE GUARDS

  • Parnell

    New Jersey detachable magazine law? The mags on my AR-15 detach, the mags on my Ruger American and 10/22 detach. There’s no restriction in New Jersey on detachable mags. The restriction is on the number of rounds allowed, 15 is the max.

  • EC

    Not mentioned: semi-automatic firearms that can work as originally designed in California.

    The Saiga, the Mini-14/30, the SU-16, the SCR, the RDB-C, and probably more that escape me at the moment.

    No need for funky grips or painful reloads. There is an option to just get a gun that works.

    • Pete – TFB Writer

      I was going to make guns like those a post of their own. Thanks!

  • Holdfast_II

    The Thorsden stock is no bueno in Connecticut.

    • Zach

      Damn shame. If and when it drops, check out the Resurgent grip?

  • Owns guns in MD

    Maryland has no limits on what kind of magazine you can possess, you just cannot get any magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds within the state.

    Attaching a fixed magazine to a firearm that is capable of holding more than 10 rounds makes it an “assault weapon” and therefore banned.

  • Azlefty

    Put a Thordsen stock on the ARs, I already have comps on them instead of flash hiders so I can have a mag release, I also have polymer frame that will be registered so I have a regular rifle, they ban it they will get a stripped 39.00 lower. But hopefully will be out of the state by 18

  • Angrybell

    Sadly, under the proposed regs that were finally revealed this week, the AR Maglock and Franklin Armory designs are illegal.

    • Frabklin Armory

      Normally I dont chime in, but you are misinformed. The DFM is still legal. Nothing in the new proposed regs has changed pertaining to legal use of the DFM in CA.

  • Evan

    All of these devices are just sad.

  • Having lived on both sides of the wire, I can tell you that the best bam state product is a moving truck.

  • iksnilol

    That AK looks stupid.

    Y’all do know there are Saigas and they come factory with “traditional” stocks.

  • johnsxj

    Well thanks to our AG here in Massachusetts, none of the items in this article will help somebody that wanted an AR or AK pattern center fire semi-automatic since July 21st 2016. Her reinterpretation of the phrase “copies and duplicates” from the ’94 Fed ban (which MA adopted as state law in ’98) means that even “featureless” variants cannot be sold.

  • Blake

    Damn I was hoping to find out about some new product I had previously missed. I guess it’s time to finally place an order for a few sets of Cross Quick Pins and their mag lock.

  • thomas

    You show a HERA stock as your title photo but you don’t mention it in the top 5. #1 bait used for click bait, using a hot photo, and you say that this wasn’t meant for click bait.

  • scaatylobo

    Living in one of “those” idioticly run states I speak from experience [ NY ].
    I much prefer to buy guns that are not banned at all,the M-1 Carbine,the M-1 A,the ARES carbine in any caliber,are a few of those that are not banned at all.
    Also note that prior to WWII,the real combat / assault rifle was a BOLT GUN.
    And that just means learning to shoot as our “greatest generation” did.
    Fast AND accurate.

  • markrb

    As a Californian who is under these unConstitutional bans, articles like this really sadden me. Actually, they infuriate me.
    I am first and foremost a free citizen of the United States of America. My Rights are INALIENABLE. They are NOT granted to me by a piece of paper that the Government, be it local, state, or Federal, can change or interpret it the way they see fit.
    The Constitution was written to PROTECT our INALIENABLE RIGHTS from being INFRINGED upon by any of these governments.
    NOWHERE in the Second Amendment does it say that we have the Right to keep and bear arms….that the Government says we do.
    Instead of these articles that are showing how we can “comply” with these unConstitutional bans, we should be reading how we can imprison these lawmakers who have taken an Oath to uphold and protect the Constitution. By breaking that Oath, these lawmakers have shown themselves to be the Tyrannical leaders our Founding Fathers warned us about.
    By breaking their Oaths, these lawmakers have shown us that they are indeed Traitors….and we know what the penalty for treason is.

    • Norm Glitz

      Best of luck.

      Sez Norm from NJ

  • Kodi

    For those living in California, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York or any of the other enemy states of the people, the best ‘ban state’ product might be a package of materials informing and aiding patriotic residents in the most cost effective ways to make a hasty exodus out from under those repressive regimes.

  • Samuel

    What else do you call it when a state implements nonsensical and arbitrary rules about what a semi-automatic rifle must look like. At the same time their lead opponent to semi-automatic rifles (Dem. State Sen. Yee) is caught running fully automatic firearms and explosives to asian gangs. Blah Blah Blah, STFU!

  • RPK

    If the voters in that state do not lawfully remove Pelosi and Feinstein types from office, and continue to allow them to erode their constitutional rights one at a time, it is really difficult to feel sorry for what comes. You get what you pay for. Commiefornia. The land of fruits and nuts. ‘Nough said?

  • richard kluesek

    looks like a prop gun for a science fiction movie like “alien” or “planet of the apes”

  • Jason Lewis

    I’m glad I live in Texas but if I had to live under these laws I would have a M1 and use clips.

  • frankspeak

    might be easier to just move!…what nonsense!…