Are You Prepared For A Magazine Ban? | Gun Guy Thoughts

Let me be up front, there is no looming ban and we don’t cover political issues anyhow.

In yet another stupid gun guy shower thought I was left wondering what it would take to be prepared for the possibility of standard capacity mags becoming scarce or them no longer being available. So again, to be clear, we are talking about the logistics of being able to weather a ban, not the possibility or politics of a ban.

So what would I need to have on hand if there were a capacity limitation? Magazines are consumables after all and do wear out over time, develop problems, break, and get lost. In the case of my Glock 19, if I were to limit the use of the standard capacity 15 round mags to carry, competition, and classes would I need 5 mags? Could 10 mags do it? Or is shooting for the stars and having 40-50 on hand the right call?

How about your rifle of choice? Do you need 10 mags past what you normally use at the range or is there something to those crazy people like myself that have 150 or more extra 30 round clipazines?

The truth is I have no idea what the right answer is, I want to see what all of you feel comfortable having on hand to ensure that you are able to enjoy your firearm as the designer intended for the life of the gun. Personally, I like to keep at least 20 handgun mags per platform that I really care about, more if they are cheap. Both AK an AR platforms have about 100 each with a slight favor towards the AR platform because … well, it’s just better.

What do you stock up on so that you never have to worry about mags again? Is there a number that you consider to be overboard? What is considered hoarding?





Patrick R

Patrick is a Senior Writer for The Firearm Blog and Co-Director for TFBTV. He is a verified gun nerd and also podcasts at The Firearms Podcast. With a lifelong passion for shooting, he has a love for all types of firearms, especially overly modified plastic handguns, precision rifles, and AR based things. You can follow Patrick on Instagram @tfbpatrick, Facebook, or contact him by email at tfbpatrick@gmail.com.

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  • The Raven

    15 min per firearm.

    • If it’s taking that long to load them you should probably get new magazines.

      • QuadGMoto

        LOL!

      • Rick O’Shay

        Or consider taking Aleve for that arthritis. Or get an Uplula.

  • hikerguy

    I would not live in fear, but as the Boy Scouts say: Be prepared. Since I do not have an AR or AK, or any other rifle of that type, I would say have a fair amount. I have never seen them, but I would think they exist, I would buy kits that replace the insides of such magazines to make repairs instead of buying tons of magazines. Do what you think YOU need to do.

    • Christian Hedegaard-Schou

      Magazine bodies get broken/destroyed too.

      • hikerguy

        True that.

    • art frewin

      their bodies can be damaged

  • Jared Vynn

    I just converted my entire firearm collection into lever action rifles and revolvers.

    /S

    • HOW MANY MOONCLIPS, MAN

      • Major Tom

        42

        • QuadGMoto

          I always knew there was something fundamentally wrong with the world.

        • Longhaired Redneck

          Thanks alot. That was the best kept secret in the universe! Until now anyway…

      • Jared Vynn

        Never enough.

        Would it be ironic to use only silver alloyed bullets (for killing werewolves) with moonclips?

        • That might negate their power, best not to risk it.

        • Klaus Von Schmitto

          Call me overly cautious if you want but I have 10 38 supers that I loaded with bullets I cast out of silver dimes.
          Better to have and not need than to need and not have.

          • Anonymoose

            Nah, you’re just being prepared, and that’s a good thing. I would have done it up in .357, though. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/46bbe082a254849669ce5ef69f7410cdcb8a00d2de04fe739d3ba254a20e2c89.jpg

          • PK

            Your bullets are grossly undersized unless you used very oversized molds and swaged down. I found it to be more trouble than it’s worth to cast, and opted for turning the silver bullets out on the lathe instead.

          • Klaus Von Schmitto

            No they’re just right. My first job was in a foundry making drop hammer dies so I understand shrink.

    • Tym O’Byrne

      I see the /S butt, stocking on springs for tube fed weapons isnt such a bad idea either.

      • Jared Vynn

        Stocking up on spare parts period isn’t a bad idea

        • Rick O’Shay

          I stock up on spare parts by buying more than one gun of a model.

      • Sunshine_Shooter

        High capacity assault springs.

  • If you’re gonna stock up for Chelsea’s First 100 Days, now is sure as heck the time to do it. PSA is basically throwing in a crate of PMAGs and two or three 9mm M&P Shields for an extra twenty bucks right now.

    • Juggernaut

      Chelsea!? another deep thinker from TX.

      • If you honestly think there’s no way we’re gonna see her on a ballot at some point then you have dramatically underestimated the Democrat Party’s capacity for self-destruction, and there is zero reason to believe that it won’t cause another run on the gun stores same as the Obamapocalypse and Hillarygeddon did.

        • Calavera

          With a Latino-Marxist at the DNC helm backed by a Mohammedan for a deputy, both displaying a deep and abiding enmity for this country, this “deep thinker” from Texas would tend to agree.

        • Rick O’Shay

          I never thought I’d see Trump on a presidential ballot. Nothing surprises me anymore.

        • Ed Ward

          Bottom line is that ANY Dem POTUS candidate WILL cause another run…As sure as 2+2=4. The only qualifier here is if we can appoint actual bonafide SCOTUS Justices to counter unconstitutional Executive and or Congressional acts…

      • Qoquaq En Transic

        That’s a pretty shallow statement.

    • RSG

      And Noreen billet lowers with integrated trigger guard are a steal at $40 from Brownells right now. Wasn’t that long ago when Anderson lowers were $79.

      • it’s just Boris

        Yes, however, Anderson lowers are made from 7071 aluminum, if I recall; the Noreens are the softer 6061. And if you read the reviews, you’ll notice a number of common issues regarding tolerancing and fitting.

        I’d rather pay the extra money for an Anderson, myself.

  • Edeco

    For the AR and Glock I think I may meet Bowman’s Rule; half the value of the gun in mags.

    Lots of steel lips, maximum durability and servicability.

  • thedonn007

    I have way too many mags for my AR-15. Not even sure how that happened. I would buy some when they were om sale and throw them in a box.

    • James Earl Jones

      Same. I now have a Tupperware container sitting in my closet with 100+ Magpul magazines. My P226 and Walther ppq are starting to get the same treatments. Find sale, buy one or two mags, squirrel away.

      • Marc

        I loved you in Conan the Barbarian.

        • Russ Kell

          Infidel Defilers. They shall all drown in lakes of blood.

    • art frewin

      IN THE DEPRESSION COMING UP YOU CAN TRADE THEM FOR FOOD..

  • PK

    I can think of three magazines I’ve owned, total, that I either bought by themselves or which came with a firearm, that were so bad/worn I couldn’t rely on them.

    At that rate of usage, I should be good for another forever or five.

    • Rick O’Shay

      I feel like I shoot a pretty average amount for a gun owner. Maybe more than average, but not much more. I’ve yet to wear out a single magazine I own. But then again, I use, I don’t abuse.

      • PK

        I shoot quite a lot, from a lot of platforms, and I’m probably unfairly hard on much of my gear – mags especially. Empties hit the ground, whether that’s concrete or gravel or dirt or snow.

        All of this in mind, I’ve only had three magazines in total that have failed me.

  • noob

    We are doing this wrong – Stock up in case of a Selective Metal Sintering 3d printer ban, or if you don’t want to pay for the laser 3d printer, tool up a small back room machine shop with a benchtop sheet metal bender, a $600 plastic 3d printer and a dremel tool mill.

    Then get a whole bunch of light sheet metal and spring wire.

    When machining and pattern-making without a license becomes criminal, we are all criminals.

  • Nandor

    The reality is that if we were to have another magazine ban, it would be like the SAFE Act in NY or CA’s recent one. Existing magazines will not be grandfathered in and after a certain date, any hi-cap mags will be the same felony as child molestation (not exaggerating for NY). Any money spent stockpiling will just be throwing money in the toilet unless you plan to use it in a revolution.

    • RSG

      I plan to use them.

      • carlcasino

        Yes!

    • Tym O’Byrne

      Based on how violent the left is and how their enablers are spooling them up, the odds on civil war are probably running about 110% right about now.

      • Trevor

        Do you live in Venezuela? Things are pretty stable here in the US, despite a lot of hand waving.

        • Rick O’Shay

          Not for a lack of Antifa trying their damnedest to stir the pot.

          • ProLiberty82

            “The fascists of the future will be called anti-fascists”

            – Winston Churchill

          • LGonDISQUS

            “Did you try Ctrl Alt Del?”

            -Abraham Lincoln

          • supergun

            Love your comment.

          • Charlie Vestey

            No, he most certainly did not say that. Check your facts.

        • Tym O’Byrne

          LOL!

        • Rem870

          Trevor, how many burning cities & riots, in the US, in last several years? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2dedc0c7d642b3d3e20bf123f725e2681210f89c53ab90367a094e027184ef71.jpg

          • supergun

            A picture paints a thousands words. NYC and California has blatantly defied and denied the 2nd Amendment to the American Cities in that area of the USA. It is shocking to see such oppression of gun rights to those people. Only the criminals, dope dealers, and murderers have guns in those countries.

          • carlcasino

            Don’t forget the police? Wait you already covered that.

          • supergun

            I imagine the police would rather Law Abiding American Citizens have guns (their rights have be INFRINGED upon) instead of the criminals having their guns who will always have guns no matter what the radical democrats do. I support our Police Men and Women. Don’t you?

          • carlcasino

            Absolutely, even with the many I have in my Family! When I graduated in 56 I always joked that half our class joined the police force and the other half were distributed between Prison as prisoners or military to avoid prison and I sometimes thought those roles should have been reversed. No ! I have the utmost respect for Law enforcement and All Veterans. As a Nam era vet it’s the reason I can Never support Hillary for Benghazi or any politician that does not subscribe to Ronald Reagans view of War-WE Win–They Lose. Using our youth as cannon fodder with both hand tied behind their backs for fear of collateral damage should be grounds for the civilians in charge to be put before a Firing Squad with 12 really poor shots. Medical attention can be administered for survivors after a 24 hr. grace period.

          • CruisingTroll

            Your imagination is a bit on the lurid side. If the police would prefer that Law Abiding Citizens have guns, then why haven’t the police ever gone on strike to insure that? Why do police unions usually line up behind Democrats? In short, the facts on the ground don’t support your imagination.

          • supergun

            You have lost touch with reality. Quit believing those lies that you are telling yourself. One reason President Trump was, because of the police. Have you seen the democrat following showing their @ssses all over the Nation. Especially Baltimore. Why would the police line up behind those that disrespect them and murder them. The living dead wanders amongst us.

          • carlcasino

            Things are pretty stable here? That’s like saying there is very little voter fraud. One illegal vote cancels my vote. I can’t even wrap my head around being a little pregnant?

        • Aerindel Prime

          What the hell do I own all these guns for then?

          • winterhorse

            so you can supply your squad.

          • supergun

            Every man for himself, except Wife.

          • winterhorse

            Wife? darn straight. She shoot better than i do and a whole lot easier to look at than some smelly old grunt.

          • supergun

            LOL. I figured that I would get a response from someone on that one. Maybe a girlfriend?

          • supergun

            1. Just in case of a zombie (radicals) uprising.
            2. Love to hold and shoot guns.
            3. Personal protection 24/7
            4. Great investments. Might need to trade a bullet for bread one day.
            5. Emergency money. Can always sell if need money bad.

          • Rem870
        • supergun

          The tell tell signs are very evident here in America. If you don’t see the hand writing on the way, then you have a false sense of security.

      • Major Tom

        Not quite that far, Leftist tantruming aside. There are very few in fact practically zero real indicators or signs or pressures building towards civil war or even minor rebellion.

        Economic stability is too high, political stability is too high (despite the shenanigans in the media), and political freedoms are numerous rather than scant. In short there’s no basis for any kind of popular violent uprising or revolution or civil war.

        • Trevor

          Also, political engagement is at an all time low, if you judge that by voter turnout. In a place on the brink of civil war I think you would expect political engagement to be very high because almost everybody would have very strong opinions, and be heavily invested in seeing their own faction prevail.

          We have a very polarized government and media, but for the most part Americans want the same things: jobs, safety and freedom.

          There are people who have a vested interest in making us scared and polarized. Beware of them.

        • Tym O’Byrne

          You sound like the 30 percenters who dint have a clue the last time revolution came StateSide™.

          • Major Tom

            Don’t be condescending to me boy. I know for certain violent revolution is off the table.

            But ideological revolution like the kind that hits this country every 30 to 40 to 50 years or so? Like the nationalist movement of the early 19th century, the manifest destiny of the late 1800s, the Progressives Crusade under Teddy Roosevelt, the isolationism of post-WW1, the ascension to world leader post-WW2, the Civil Rights Movement of the 1960s, the Reagan Revolution? We’re roughly due for one of those.

          • Tym O’Byrne

            “Don’t be condescending to me” then calling me a boy only suggests your only standards are double standards, Since I’m the one who gets to park in 06 and above parking have a nice day “Major”

        • Steve Hall

          That can change with one large scale even like an EMP or major disaster. I saw a small scale one in 2005 and New Orleans has still not recovered. 33 years in public safety taught me the vail of civilization is thin….

          • Major Tom

            Major disasters might end up a tipping point, but rarely if ever are they the sole cause of the long breakdown and devolution into civil war. In the US, the American Civil War was an over 70 year breakdown, the first signs that something might happen emerging in the Constitutional Convention itself (the 3/5ths compromise). Even in the immediate run up, it took several years between “Bleeding Kansas” and Fort Sumter.

        • supergun

          Our Country was thriving during the Civil War. One of the greatest times to live, until the war came. All because of the radical left.

      • n0truscotsman

        The right deserves just as much ‘credit’ for that kind of rhetoric.

        Either way though, you are correct with your overall point. Powderkeg.

      • supergun

        The left radicals are vicious group of people that hate America. Their violent ways are being exposed today with their cuckoo followers. I hope for no war in this great Nation, but they care nothing for the American People. I am afraid that you may be right. Freedom is not free.

    • Phillip Shen

      Werd. The question of “how many mags should we stockpile up” is an incorrect way to think, at least in terms of what the antis want. The days of grandfathering things in are long gone. They don’t want “ok, no more new standard capacity mags to be produced!” — they want your old mags too.

    • David Goldberg

      “Just be a good gun owner and follow the rules. You’ll just make the rest of us look bad!”

      • art frewin

        the right to protect yourself is not given by any government it is a right we are born with. those amendments were just stating that our government cannot take those rights away. this has been understood for centuries. even the Magna Charta stated it. laws that should not be in force are laws that need to be corrected one way or another. when has the right rioted covering their faces so that as they break the laws they cannot be identified? the elites like sorro are bank rolling this and have paid people stirring up the pot. our kids have been brainwashed by the schooling system which is teaching them how great communism is because they take care of everyone. it sounds good it just does not work. when the laws become bad we have to change them anyway we can.

  • RSG

    In addition to my existing “stockpile “, I bought 2 dozen lowers in the run up to the election. These were for generational security in fulfilling the obligation of the 2A, for those in my family that come after me. I also picked up several dozen of each- magpul mags, aluminum and steel mags for 556/300blk. The metal mags are all put away and will keep better long term. I won’t talk about ammo. Lol.

    • it’s just Boris

      We tend to focus on lowers because they are the serialized part of AR-platform rifles. However, if you have 24 lowers, but only 2 complete uppers and LPKs, how many functioning firearms can you assemble without a lot of additional work? How about later generations, who if they are suffering from “limitations” of various sorts, who may not be able to easily obtain parts?

      • RSG

        I already have “enough” complete rifles. I bought the lowers exactly because those parts are serialized and would fall under a ban. Now, I can spend the next few years procuring uppers, barrels and lower parts kits, at my leisure. If I could’ve been able to afford 2 dozen complete rifles, I would’ve bought them. I couldn’t so this was the next best thing.

        • it’s just Boris

          Fair enough.

          I’ve met people at the local range who hadn’t quite worked it out to Step 2…

  • Darhar M.

    I have plenty of magazines for my firearms that use them.
    Also the ammo to reload them a dozen times over.

  • it’s just Boris

    We should perhaps also recall that detachable magazines are, or at least were, intended to be disposable. While they are, contrary to a certain Colorado politician’s beliefs, reloadable, they are also to some degree intended to expendable. Similar to brass, in that regard.

    Thus, if one posits a ban in the future, one might also posit the circumstances where one is more concerned about running out of magazines not because they’re wearing out, but because one is in circumstances where dropping and leaving them is more prudent than picking them up.

    Which brings back the question, again, how many?

    • int19h

      You know, this notion that detachable mags are “disposable” seems to be an American thing. My dad – who is a retired Soviet Army major, and the veteran of that other Afghan war as such – was flabbergasted when I first mentioned it to him.

      To him, a magazine is just another part of the gun, that wears down, of course – but not at a significantly faster rate than other parts. Even then, you replace the parts that wear (e.g. springs) and move on. According to him, they definitely didn’t treat their AK74 mags as “disposable” in Afghanistan.

  • Paul White

    I’ve got ~30 AR mags and feel OK with that. I’ve got 4 16 rounders for my ruger semi autos and wouldn’t mind having 2-3 more but they’re a lot pricier than Pmags ya know?

    • Phillip Cooper

      This is about how I am. This stuff requires storage space, I have enough crap laying around.

      • Paul White

        Plus, money. Even if the OP paid a whopping 6 bucks a pop for his 150 magazines that’s a grand in mags.

        I also feel like the disposability argument is overstated; maybe if you’re shooting thousand and thousands and thousands of rounds all the time out of it, but I’ve got mags going on a decade old that still work with my handguns with regular but not extreme use.

        • Phillip Cooper

          I’ve got AR mags procured 30 years ago when I was a Grunt that still work just fine.

  • Holdfast_II

    FWIW, I live in a place that banned standard cap mags in 2013. I was pretty good about stocking up on AR mags prior to the ban, and some extra mags for the handguns I owned back then. However, any handguns I’ve bought since then are all limited to 10 rounders. If the USSC ever overturns our stupid laws, I am going to be on a magazine buying spree – and have a LOT of extra 10 rounders on hand.

    No, I am not afraid to put this on the Web, since the State already has a list of all my mags over 10 rounds, with my notarized signature on it.

    • KestrelBike

      You shouldn’t be afraid of the state since you’ve done nothing wrong, and that “State” is literally a small room full of 8 tyrants who just want to keep control over you. The gallows is the most appropriate place for them.

    • iksnilol

      Can’t you just… I dunno, unpin the mags to their original capacity if the law gets overturned?

  • Hyasuma

    Never Enough~

  • BrandonAKsALot

    I’m set for life on AK mags partly because they almost never wear out and that I have a mag pouch full of almost every Russian variant. Too​ bad I hope I never have to use most of them being they are mostly collectible grade mags.

    I feel comfortable with 3 or so pistol mags and around 8 or so mags for rifles. I only have 5 mags for my Vepr 12, but I honestly feel that’s enough considering its more of a fun gun.

  • Calavera

    Magazines? What magazines?

    • Nathan Alred

      Exactly. I have no need of magazines since the tragic boating accident.

  • Harry’s Holsters

    Really depends on how much you shoot each platform. I know I’ve lost mags when shooting. For myself probably 150 Glock magazines. But I’m also 22 years old and could potentially continue to shoot till I’m 90. For ARs and other guns 20 would be sufficient based off the amount I shoot them currently.

  • Jim Slade

    That picture of Magpul pallets would give a California legislator a case of the fidgets.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c5bce10602053cdfcf790ab5a4d63eea9d2b5d3c53eea429264ea241e26d61f1.gif

  • ActionPhysicalMan

    My only AR uses 6.8 mags. PRI are the only ones that seem to work well for me. At $36 each, it is a fairly expensive endeavor to stock up. Right now I only have five. Then again, I am not that confident that I would live through a gunfight where that volume of fire is required anyway. Five also for my FN 5.7 come to think of it. That seems to be a sufficient number if I don’t start breaking or losing some – which would be like me.

  • Phillip Shen

    How about getting a 458 socom upper? Then my mags could technically be legal…

    • Lt. Dan

      I like where your head is at

    • iksnilol

      They do something like that in Canada. There pistols may have 10 round mags and rifles 5 round mags, so what some smart folks did was to market an AR pistol and its mags are AR compatible but are counted as pistol mags.

      • Anonymoose
        • iksnilol

          Hmmm… somebody should make a .50 beowulf pistol. I mean, a 10 shot .50 beowulf magazine should fit at least 15 rounds of 5.56

          • Anonymoose

            The 10 round .50 Beowulf mags and the 10-round .458 SOCOM mags are literally just 30-round .223 mags, the 7-rounders are literally just 20-rounders, and that’s what the RCMP is mad about.

          • iksnilol

            Shhh… just rebrand them. 😛

          • Anonymoose

            They did that, and that’s what the RCMP is mad about. 😐

          • iksnilol

            Well… make new ones… that are like sligthly different.

          • Paul White

            I want a .50 bewulf pistol now that I’ve thought of it. No matter how pointless it is

          • iksnilol

            Honestly, it makes only sense. I mean, .50 beowulf is just a glorified pistol cartrige. So why not use it in a pistol.

          • art frewin

            it is a great rifle and does kick a little.

          • noob

            is the follower the same?

          • art frewin

            no

          • art frewin

            they do not have the same follower.

      • winterhorse

        and a shockwave “arm” brace and your golden ( please don’t shoulder it tho).

    • art frewin

      one of everything is a good idea!!

  • Patrick

    I’ve always been of the opinion that if you know how many guns and magazines you have, you don’t have enough.

    • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

      This message is approved by Patrick.

      I spent a whole weekend putting together an inventory a while back then didn’t keep up with it. I just give up.

      • Klaus Von Schmitto

        Isn’t it cool when you find guns you forgot you had?

        • supergun

          You make a good comment. I have a problem keeping up with the magazines. I have several makes, models, and calibers. It does take some effort to keep up with those children.

      • PK

        I do inventory twice a year for insurance purposes, business of course is a constant logging of A&D and so on, but personal items still get a twice annual inventory.

        It’s good for peace of mind, even if all it amounts to is a backup (remote location) of photos of everything laid out. It’s usually quite the process, but if anything happens, I’ve got proof of what I have.

        • Paul White

          I say it everytime this comes up: do this to anything that’s high dollar and easy to fence. Store it in the cloud, on your google docs, an excel sheet, w/e. Brief description, model, serial, etc.

          If you ever get robbed that helps hugely in getting it back.

        • noob

          Definitely – and if one goes missing you’d want to know where, when and why. Imagine if one of your cars went missing

      • supergun

        You are in good shape. Just make arrangements for love ones to receive them in good order, if and when the day comes.

        • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

          Well that is depressing.

          • supergun

            Death indeed is depressing. But it is part of life. I would rather my family get my guns, then the government. Now that would truly be depressing.

    • USMC_grunt2009-2013

      I know how many I have. The answer is not enough.

      • supergun

        You never have enough. You never get rid of them either.

    • supergun

      That is an interesting comment. Every now and then I count what I have. It is an effort. Would you say that I am in the middle of your comment?

      But I like you comment very much. I have a dilemma. Sometimes I feel that I have to many. But compared to others, I am only a small pea. But to others I have many. My Brother wants that CZ SP-01 OD (olive drab green) tactical 9mm that I have. I love that gun. Probably one of the best 9mms in the World for the money. Always wanted a CZ. I am thinking, here I have someone that would buy it without me trying to sell it. My question is: Should I or should I not?

    • winterhorse

      Like most people here, I have more than i need and almost as many as i want.

      • supergun

        You never have more than you need. And you always want more than you can’t have.

    • I was prepared on Jan. 20, 2009.

    • CavScout

      That’s not true. I wasn’t sure how many I had, so I counted. Confirmed that not only and I ready for a ban, but I have an issue with buying too many mags. Yes, I said TOO MANY.

  • Mike

    “we don’t cover political issues anyhow”

    Good grief, you all keep saying this but it keeps coming up.

    • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

      Is this a political article? No.

      • st381183

        This is absolutely a political article because the only thing that would limit magazines or mag capacity is the fiat of our overlords to ban them. The only thing that pushes demand for mags is the threat of the government to limit or forbid them. Even thinking about this issue was brought about by the political efforts of anti 2A forces attacking and demonizing magazine capacity. So to say this isn’t a political article but we are still going to discuss the “what if” of a political magazine ban is a little disingenuous.

      • Ed Ward

        Yes in that the preposition is that political instability begs the question.

      • PK

        Take another look at the comments… the article, no, the majority of the comments however…

        • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

          That is out of my control.

          • itsmefool

            Ever heard of disabling comments? It’s definitely in someone’s control at TFB…but then killing comments assuredly would reduce your views!

        • art frewin

          the right to self protection is an inalienable right. it is not given and cannot be taken away. the right to protect yourself with the most modern best method of self protection. our government has already infringed on our right. starting back when prohibition caused so much trouble. we were suppose to learn our lesson but have not. instead of prohibition we call it a war. such as the war on drugs, guns or what ever. guns cannot be separated from any part of our society. none of our rights to choose what we want to do not uncle sam’s idea of what he wants us to do.

      • ConcentrateFire

        Maybe it is better to face the facts that everything in the gun world is political until our constitutional Republic is restored.

        • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

          We will not be covering politics here. Steve summed it up beautifully a few weeks ago.

          • Steve Hall

            Then I guess the 1st Amendment you make a living on is inconsequential. Seververal magazine vendors were successfullu sued by San Fransisco partially for advertizing pictures of firearms magazines, how long until you end up in a commiefornia court for just talking about gun technology?

          • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

            You can email your concerns to editor@thefirearmblog.com if you like but I can assure you that we will not be changing our policy.

      • Keiichi

        You pick a title calling out a specifically political aspect of the topic, I presume because you know it’ll get folks to click on it precisely because it’s political, and spend 41 words telling us the article isn’t political.

        Come on.

        • art frewin

          magazines are not political. why? because it is an inalienable right. it cannot be give or taken by any government. it is the government that makes it political not those deciding how many they should have because it is no business of the government. just as my right to do heroin if i should so choose to do. we have only caused crime and cost us money doing something that is no business of the governments. we have allowed the government to take our freedom one piece at a time. we need to take our freedoms back. if you want to call taking some back that is inalienable political i guess you can. you can call anything you want political but that does not change the fact that it is my intrinsic right. it has nothing to do with politics.

          • Keiichi

            The intrinsic, inalienable right of the individual that you reference is Self Preservation.

            The 2nd Amendment exists to ensure that individuals have a means of exercising that right. This is in and of itself a political principle.

            The nature and character of that means is a matter of political discussion. Magazine capacity is an element of the character of the means. There are individuals in our society who hold the political position that high capacity magazines are not necessary to exercise one’s right of self preservation, but are rather provide a means for criminals to cause more harm, and so work to ban them. Thus, magazine capacity is a political topic.

            Don’t get me wrong – I’m with you in that I don’t believe magazine bans are right or good, but conflating a politically contested element of the character of firearms with the intrinsic right of self preservation is ridiculous.

          • art frewin

            i disagree just as in times past, the days of old, the peasants were not allowed to own swords. only those that governed them could. the pee ons had to fight with farm instruments. if i remember my history correctly the Magna Charta stated that all those low lives had the right to defend themselves with modern weapons. it is a right they were born with it was not or is not given or taken from them.

            if that is not true then the state can decide exactly what weapons you are allowed to use, like farm tools. or a single shot rifle or a ball and cap rifle or gun so you would not cause as much damage. that is obviously restricting your right to self preservation. criminals do not follow the law. that gives them an advantage, for their reasoning that criminals that do not follow the law cause excess damage with those weapons they take them from the honest citizens that need them to protect themselves from the criminals. in other words they need more then farm implements to protect themselves from swords.

            the state has no right to limit my self preservation. my self protection is not given to me by any state or over lord. it is a human right, born with and can not be given or taken away. now that does not mean a state can enforce and limit your self protection but it has not right to. just as illegal drugs. the state has no right to tell me what i can do with my body. it does not mean that the state does not violate my basic freedoms, because they certainly do. plus they are taking more of my freedoms every day. we were suppose to learn part of this with prohibition, but the elites or over lords have decided usually for monetary gains to deny people certain things they have no right to do. in doing so they never succeed, all they do is create crime and cost the pee ons more money and make the criminals very rich.

            just because it is done does not make it right. denying freedom to us is just wrong. denying the right to self preservation is the worst of the bunch. it should never happen and as far as i am concerned they can come and try and take that right from me first, because i am just tired of this crap and i will not live at a disadvantage. there comes a time when the people rebell. just as they did in prohibition, which by the way is what cause the beginnings of gun control. WTF

          • Keiichi

            I’m not sure what we’re disagreeing on…

            If I understand you correctly, the political position you espouse is a noble one, and one that I agree with.

            Perhaps you are convinced that, due to the strength of your belief, your political position is unimpeachable and indisputable, and therefore apolitical. Is that the case?

          • art frewin

            i guess that is what i am saying. their should be no question about it, but they have made it not only political, but have enacted laws that take my natural right away. it is not right. all the restriction on firearms are taking my natural right to self protection away by limiting what i can use for protecting my self. there are states that have limited the natural right of their citizens and in essence are not only bad laws they limit their citizens right to protect themselves. this should not even be political and there should not be any laws taking a citizen right away. just as my freedom for other things has been taken. for instance they make it a law that you can not commit suicide. that is a good one. it is none of their business what i do until i am hurting someone else. what are they going to do throw my body in jail? they have taken my right to make my own decisions away for the good of who the government? for the good of me? it is ridiculous. of course maybe it is me that is ridiculous.

            i am tired of loosing my rights and i do not want to loose anymore and i would like to start taking them back. it will only happen if we the people take charge. yes, i want to reduce the government a whole lot. i am to old and i know i won’t see it happen but it pisses me off. this left group has gotten so left it is really communism they want and the school have trained the kids to believe that also. how we let extreme left take control of the education system is beyond my belief. a young kid points his finger like a gun and all hell breaks loose. sorry for the rant but someone hopefully someday will change things. this extreme left has set this country and the world up for the greatest depression it has ever seen. i just cannot believe the people doing it are that stupid. i now believe it is a plan to take way more control. the biggest part of this is the electronic money. they are switching, the world to it, and once they have that done the elites or deep state what ever you want to call it will have total control of ever penny everyone spends. the depression will help get it going, otherwise we would not let it happen, i think. i stop my rant.

          • Keiichi

            Might I suggest that you direct your passion for your beliefs toward politics, rather than trying to avoid it?

            Politics isn’t some dirty word; it is a word which describes human interaction. Politics doesn’t demand red vs. blue, left vs. right, cheerleading, but rather engaging with your neighbors and friends, and young people around you, and expressing your beliefs – just as you’ve done here.

            Which, to bring this conversation full circle, is why I maintain that discussions of magazine sizes, in the context of potential bans (as mentioned in the article title and text), are political – as passionate defenders of our rights, and our means to exercise them, we are compelled to engage in the politics of the social systems in which we participate. The topic at hand is a microcosm of that effort.

          • art frewin

            i am neither right or left, i do not fit either. both try and do take freedoms they have no right to take. the freedom to choose what you do instead of uncle sam telling us what to do. the laws government have no right making my decisions or trying to. i side with the right because of my right to self protect myself because the government is not going to.

            i do try and communicate my thoughts to people, if i didn’t i would not have spent the time to explain myself. if there is a god i will let him judge me on my actions and life not the government. trump was my only choice. while i did and do not agree with everything he has done like putting some of the elite in positions around him, as far as i can see he believes in my right to self protection. the US came as close as i have ever seen to loosing that right this last election. never been so worried in my life. i will stand with trump but i wish he would try to balance the budget. it appears no one will, but the left has certainly f@@@ed things up. the only way to fix what has been done is through a depression. many will die. there is nothing i can do or anybody now the damage is done. prepare for hard times they are coming. hope i am wrong, i want to be wrong, and i would gladly be wrong. i have never been right every time. just as i was telling people the real estate market would bust for a few years before it did, even though it had never done that in the past.

            at first i thought obummer would cause spiraling inflation, but i see now the books have to be cleared before that can happen. the feds and old yeller postponed adjustments but they can no more control the economy then i can. they just made the adjustment that much worse. they are out of ammo and it does not look good.

      • USMC_grunt2009-2013

        Yes. It directly relates to politics.

        • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

          A lot of the stuff in the gun industry is somehow related to politics, we choose to not cover it here.

  • Mike

    I have been ordering magazines for years, I’m gonna win that Publishers Clearinghouse one of these days.

  • Screw the atf!

    • art frewin

      i agree, just look at fast and furious. they are really worried now and that is why they are trying to throw us a bone with silencers. they just need to be disbanded. full auto should be legal, and legalize all drugs. we our rights were infringed because of prohibition just like the prohibition on drugs. it does not solve anything and only creates crime and sucks our money and puts lots in the cartels pocket. i thought we were suppose to learn a lesson from it but nooooo. why remember history i am sure it will work this time WTF!

  • st381183

    At a minimum, 10 mags per rifle, 6 mags per pistol, and stock up on extras when you can afford it. When expensive mags are on sale – buy! I always buy at least 2 Glock 33 rounders when they go on sale at PSA, I have a lot of Glocks and Glock pattern AR9s. AR mags whenever I see a crate of used ones for $5, I’m a buyer, I don’t care if the mags are dirty and finish is worn. Buy a 10 pack of springs and followers so you can salvage damage free mag bodies.

    For my FNX Tactical, Shield, or other hard to find or expensive pistol mags, I buy at least 2 mags if I find a price point or sale I can live with. There’s no way I’ll pay $50 a mag for my FNX, but I found the mags for $30 which allowed me to stock up. Mags are only disposable if you have enough surplus to replace the ones that are disposed. Don’t be afraid of used pistol mags, they are usually in perfect working order and thanks to Wolff Springs can be salvaged if the spring is worn out. Avoid GunBroker! Additionally, mags are never worth $0. They can be sold or traded when demand skyrockets and prices climb. Don’t even get me started on Ammo.

  • Sulaco

    WA State is looking at such a ban next year by a Bloomberg financed “citizens initative”.

    • MSG1000

      Dang it, I haven’t heard of this yet. Will have to check it out.

      • eqd

        The AG began murmuring about it last year; the state legislature decided not to pick up the issue this year. To say that the state is looking at ban next year is a non-statement.

        • MSG1000

          I hope so. So tired of the BS.

        • Sulaco

          Not saying the state is, they turned down all the Nazi style laws the AG (he was not muttering) introduced and attempted to get passed in the last legislature session. He and Bloombergs group have a ballot initative and signature campaign ready to file in 18 since they did not expect the legislature to go along with them. Based on the vote histories of King County/Seattle/Pierce County it will have a good chance at passing.

          • eqd

            Interesting – where can I read about what they have ready to file in 2018?

          • Sulaco

            They have not filed it yet so the text is not released. They are revving up their troops for the push to get enough signatures to get it, (when its filed) on the ballot in 18. They keep talking about making WA part of the “Blue Wall” joining CA and OR. I think they are trying in their own minds to be low key to stop any groups from building opposition against it early…

          • eqd

            Where can i read their revving up the troops and where they are talking about the Blue Wall?

          • Sulaco

            Go to the mother’s against everything site, the Bloomberg gun control site, of the other myrid of gun control groups or talk like I have to folks who have attended the meetings on the QT to find out whats planned.

          • Sulaco

            Site is not letting me reply, too policitcal I guess. Call and talk with the president of the WAC or go to the sites of Bloomberg or moms against everything etc.

          • art frewin

            i guess we have let the left teach our kids for to long. the paranoia of the school system about even something that resembles a gun will get i small child suspended. is this what we want our kids taught? after a generation or more of teaching our kids this crap the left feels the time is right. i think they are wrong, i hope they are wrong.

    • Don Ward

      Better donate to the NRA then so they can help fight it.

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

      Who am I kidding.

      The NRA will turn tail and run just like it always does, and use the donations to give Wayne LaPierre and the other money grubbing scoundrels who run it a pay raise.

      • El Duderino

        NRA has given up on WA. When everything anti gun passes with 60% of the vote, they must figure it’s a waste of time and money. And I tend to agree with them…as a WA resident in gun-friendly territory.

        • Don Ward

          Nonsense. Washington state has repeatedly voted down anti-gun legislation when 2nd Amendment groups have actually put up a fight. Furthermore the Washington state Constitution is very friendly to gun rights.

          The issue is that the NRA is more concerned with pocketing donations and paying its staff 6 and 7 figure salaries.

  • FOC Ewe

    Ask an adult firearms owner who lived through the 90’s

    • art frewin

      i lived the 90’s and it was a scary time. in fact i bought my first ar then. they just took off some of those scary black rifle things and they were legal. magazines were not affected by the ban. no matter what those communists tell you, their goal is to remove the guns from all the honest citizen. in fact hillawitch666 onl;y wanted australian gun control, yea sure, even if that is all she wanted and it wasn’t, the ruger 10/22 is very controlled their and pump shotguns are illegal. i would bet money their crime rate went up, while ours is going down.

  • ProLiberty82

    Here in Europe we are in this situation now, the “Union” just deemed rifle magazines over 10 rounds and pistol magazines over 20 rounds “VERBOTEN”. I say you buy as many magazines you can afford to get confiscated/turned in but hope that you might get to keep them since you bought them before the ban got enforced.

    • iksnilol

      I thought those were more like guidelines/suggestions over hard law?

      Eh, don’t care. Norway ain’t part of the EU.

    • art frewin

      what they don’t know won’t hurt them. practice with the legal mags. the world is headed for the greatest depression it has ever seen. you just might need them for protection.

  • iowaclass

    Extra mags are good.

    But widespread use of desktop manufacturing technology would be much better.

    • art frewin

      i don’t think you can 3 D a spring.there are other things like heat treating and quality of the metal.

      • iowaclass

        I’m no expert, but I think the desktop mfg approach to springs would be to CNC something like a jig or frame on which you could wind a wire.

        • art frewin

          well i certainly am not either an expert. i do think i know that 3D manufacturing a gun would not be as strong as a good steel and heat treating. i think the same goes for a spring. the good thing about a spring is it won’t blow up in your face when shooting. i certainly am not by far a 3D expert either. just giving my opinions which certainly could be wrong.

  • John

    I thought since Trump was president they were going start putting hi-cap magazines in Happy Meals.

  • David Goldberg

    “Dude just be a good gun owner and follow the rules. You’ll just make the rest of us look bad!”

  • BillyOblivion

    > So what would I need to have on hand if there were a capacity limitation?

    3D printer and some spring wire.

  • winterhorse

    bought a bunch (my wife made me do it) at the first noise about limited capacity.
    i now have a large box full of them. maybe a good trade item someday along with all the .223 SHE made me get.

  • .45

    That was well summed up. Thank you.

  • .45

    150 mags for a given rifle? OK, I am not in your league… I have, on average, less than five mags for most of my firearms. Guess when the zombies show up I’m going to die.

  • Andrew

    Magazines can break but they are not consumable parts. I bought my first AR 15 years ago and I still have the original magazine that came with it. The half dozen AR magazines I own will still be useable long after I am dead. I have a Colt pistol built in 1922 and use the original magazine. Stockpiling magazines is a waste.

  • LGonDISQUS

    Range pistols, I have 5 mags.

    CCW, I start at four min, and don’t stop when I see deals. Ten is good though.

    I have 30 AR mags per AR, not sure why. 20 30rd, 10 20rd. Still don’t know how that happened. PSA prolly had a stupid sale.

  • HystericalFool

    five round beowulf magazines…

  • Marcus D.

    I can’t imagine why anyone would want or need 150 AR mags. You can only shoot one at a time, and you can’t carry all that many loaded mags should the need arise. So what’s the point? To see how fast you can burn through 450 rounds of ammo? Pass.
    In any event, California has had a ten round limit on handguns for years, and now that limit has extended to all guns. People who continue to possess 10+ capacity mags that were grandfathered in under prior law (i.e. owned prior to 1/1/2000) are going to be in violation of the law as of July 1. (I don’t own any of those.)
    So what I have to worry about is not the banning of 10+ mags, it is the banning of all mags (and mag fed firearms). There are certainly legislators who would like to see all semi-auto rifles banned (yes, ALL), and if they go that far, it is one small step to banning semi-auto handguns as well.

    • FarmerB

      Hah, I have 15 magazines for guns I don’t even own (yet).

  • Odinson

    It is also a good investment. I bought hundred round drums years ago and they doubled in value. I have no plans of selling them though.

  • Lupinsea

    Went through this exercise this past fall due to WA state AG proposing a mag and AWB. Fortunatley it failed, but it caused me to shift my collection around. And i needed to budget for guns and magazines.

    Here’s how I worked it out based on my personal experience:

    I’ve had an AR-15 for about 17-18 years now. The three 30 rd mags I had for it back in the day are still going strong and are in good condition. Ditto for the Walther P99 that’s a little older. Granted, I only get out a few times a year to shoot it, but based on that rate of use I figure:

    3-4 mags per firearm minimum

    For my rifles that take AR-15 mags I figure 6-7 mags total as they can share.

    Magazines for some of my other rifles were running $30-65 ea depending on rifle. I did manage to order at least 4 of everything with the 6-7 extra mags for the anything taking AR-15 stuff. And I picked up a 10-pack of HK G3 magazines for $35 / 10 pk.

    IF a ban does go into effect (and existing magazines are grandfathered) I’ll pick up some restricted capacity magazines for normal range use and save the standard capacity mags for special occasions.

    • art frewin

      that’s exactly right, you don’t have to show everyone your underwear….

  • 22winmag

    Real men use heavyweight metal mags, G3/PTR/HK91, M14, AK in 7.62×54 or 8mm (M76) etc. The limiting factor becomes how many loaded mags can reasonably carry or transport!

    • art frewin

      what if you are defending your home. how many loaded mags do you want before you have to start reloading mags? it is like bullets, do you want more then you need or not have enough?

  • Choppa city ho

    Ak mags dont die, they multiply.

  • nickiter

    Maybe I don’t totally understand magazine wear and tear, but 40-50 mags to account for wear and tear seems like a shitload unless you’re a professional shooter or maybe going to war… I’ve put several hundred rounds through my *used* CZ75 mags with no sign of additional wear at all, and several hundred each through my Magpul AR mags with similar lack of issue. Even if they do break down, in a situation of scarcity it’d make sense to fix busted springs/followers/whatever.

  • mazkact

    I have some handguns that I should have bought extra mags for years ago and now you just cannot find them. For some reason I am drawn to handguns no longer in production and ones that usually end production soon after I purchase one.Lesson learned. No magic number but if you really like a certain firearm and know you are going to have it and shoot it from now on buy a “bunch” of mags for it.

  • JRCrum

    The problem in California is retroactive confiscation… Sad.

    • art frewin

      unjust laws don’t have to be obeyed.

  • DwnRange

    When you have as many as some of us do – you only purchase more when the “price” is right – for instance my last mag purchase was a few days before Christmas 2016 for 20 AR15 Troy BattleMags @ $5.99/ea. They are still in the unopened box they came in. Most of my Glock 9mm mags (made by Glock) were bought years ago for less than Magpul made Glock mags sell for today. Enbloc M1 Garand clips purchased decades ago by the hundreds only cost 25 cents apiece.

  • Andrew Miller

    It’s been years, but ironically, before the “94 AWB” expired, I had a nice pile of mags.
    Since there was a gigantic stock of “Pre-Ban” mags that got brought in after 2000, I bought around them.
    AK’s, those South African Hi Power mags that stuck out 5/8″ and held 17, AR mags from Singapore, FAL and CETME, SIG 226 and 228…
    One day I counted and realized I had over 350 magazines total.

    Sold them all off too early it seems, prices are insane now, but I consolidated to Glock and AR mags, not AR, AK in 7.62×39, FAL, CETME, AK in 223…in Rifle, and then Pistols with Hi Power, SIG 226, 228, 1911…

    But at least now I can buy 10-22 magazines and Glock magazines which hold more than 10 rounds for decent money.

  • JD

    My friggen word.. there are lots of people here that have testicles the size of raisins. I’m not going to “rebrand” them. I’m not going to stock up on 3D printer bullshit. Buy them, stockpile them, train with them, and when the time comes, have the balls to use them.

  • Icon

    People say they need guns to protect their freedoms, and then willingly give up both when the government tells them to.

  • spencer60

    For personal use I would say 10 mags would work for any gun you intended to shoot on a regular basis. If you were running really high round counts that would be way too low though.

    While mags do break, you can usually get parts to fix them, even if the mags themselves are banned, and 10 is a nice round number that should last for a couple of decades of normal use at least.

    Honestly, after that the law will either be repealed, changed to confiscation, or the zombies will be here and no one will care anyway.

  • A guy named Joe

    I stopped at 100 for each platform from the AK to the G-3, ARs and all of the pistols.

    100 mags for each. Bought cheap and stacked it deep.

  • markrb

    {Let me be up front, there is no looming ban and we don’t cover political issues anyhow.}
    Uhmmmm…..you obviously DON’T live in California, because it’s already a reality here….And it IS political.
    The question is, do we let the anti-Constitutional political hacks get away with it or not.
    I guess we’ll find out if they start kicking in doors and trying to actually confiscate our legally owned property.

  • Marko

    At this very moment, Illinois Senate is trying to pass SB556 (ironic ain’t it?!) and its amended version SFA1. This bill would make any “Black Rifles” and many auto pistols, plus ANY magazines over 5 rounds illegal and would make gun owners instantly felons. Previously they want to pass another bill which through new regulations would effectively close most of the privately owned gun businesses. Gun owners are fighting them tooth and nail with the help of the NRA and ISRA. All this has amp’ed up since Hillary was defeated. I’m sure all the prep work was in place, anticipating her victory. Soros is very much alive and spending big money for anti 2nd amendment causes. We can’t relax just because a pro gun president is in the White House. Here is a creepy fact for you. More anti gun legislation has been passed with pro gun Presidents than with anti gun Presidents. I guess that is because we let our guard down. Moral of the story is, stay vigilant and politically active. Or we are all screwed.

    • Marko

      By the way, this bill would make it worse than the Maryland law. Any bill once passed is almost impossible to repeal. Fight now and don’t rely on “Someone else” to carry the flag.

  • Marko

    Remember when Congress under the Clinton’s, passed the magazine ban some years ago? The feds went to the mail order companies and demanded their records to find out where all the “illegal” magazines went. Buy your magazines at at a store or gun shows. Then hope the anti’s don’t pass a magazine recording bill with serial numbers etc. Seriously guys, they can write it and see if they can slip it past us.

    • art frewin

      it will be pretty hard to trace all of them and i don’t care, they can come and try and take mine first.

  • Marko

    Another creepy thought I had rereading Patrick’s article. The killer here is the “possession” wording. Fine, buy all the mags you want. Then when you go to the range the ATF will bust you for having illegal contraband. Worth big fines, court costs, to keep you out of jail–maybe. Fight now.

  • winterhorse

    I’ll trade the rounds in my mag for the bullets in your clip.
    let’s dance!

  • Reginald Pettifogger

    I think this has less priority than prepping for the sun to stop burning.

  • Azlefty

    Sadly all one has to do is read the comments here to understand why we are disparaged as ignorant or “nuts”

  • art frewin

    it is not politics it is just being a good boy scout. be prepared. if the pro gun people don’t discuss this we will not be united. united we stand divided we fall

  • art frewin

    well while he is not perfect WTF do you think hillawitch666 would have done. we would have lost our second because of the supreme court. of course hillawitch666 only wanted the same gun laws as australia. it is illegal to own a pump shotgun there. so we had a choice of a businessman that was not a politician or a career criminal. that would have lead us even more toward communism and taken our second amendment right. i want her and bill in prison. obummer should join them also. in his 8 years he has bankrupt america and we are headed for the greatest depression this country has ever seen. with a lot of old yellers help also. SO, WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE SUGGESTED??

  • carlcasino

    You have finally solved the age old problem of magazine or clips-Clipazines? Love it..Now the politicians will stay totally confused.

  • PaulWVa

    A newbie shooter friend of mine just bought a new Sig P-320 RX, with two 17 rd magazines. After we picked out some practice and defensive ammo to try, he asked, “what else do I need?” I told him…”magazines,… without good mags it’s just a fancy single shot”…”but I have two….” I explained magazines to him….we left with the last three on the shelf. And he has since ordered a couple more. I have 13 for my Sig 320 and 18, 1911 mags and maybe a dozen Ruger Mk IIs. Ammo, mags, bullets, powder, brass and primers ….not hoarding…stocking up.

  • jcitizen

    I could use more STANAG 30rd mags. I probably have enough AK mags to trade for whatever I need.

  • RPK

    If the crap hits the fan, there will be plenty of magazines laying around. Just sayin’…

  • Paul Sanders

    “How many guns do you need?”

    “Just one more!!!”

  • Paul Sanders

    Here is the major flaw in the argument for magazine limits, the premise being, that if you limit the number of rounds, you can supposedly “limit the carnage.”

    Since I think everyone agrees that one murder is one too many, by extension of this logic, magazines need to have a capacity of zero.

    The other problem is, of course, exactly how do you “prevent” a criminal or mass murderer from using one of the millions of so called “high capacity” magazines already in existence?

    In reality, the term “high capacity” is a red herring because it’s subjective. What one person may consider “high capacity”, another may consider “standard capacity.” Really, I don’t know how you can just pick an arbitrary number and legislate magazines based on anything higher than that simply because they are supposedly “high capacity.”

    Sorry for the rant. I can’t help myself. With me, logic seems to always get in the way of emotional arguments.

  • Dayne Adams

    I’m just a hand gun guy, and more of a casual shooter, so maybe my needs/plans are simpler than others.

    I’m comfortable with two or three magazines per firearm, though in the case of my two 9mm clocks (G26 and G19) magazine interchangeability means I have at least six magazines that will work in one gun and of course I bought a couple of G17 mags and spacers just for the coolness of being able to fire more rounds from the smaller firearms. And again, novelty, I have a 33 round mag for the 9mm Glocks as well.

    I think the most I’d do is try to keep some extra springs for the firearms I shoot the most (or like the best) since IMHO this is almost the only thing that, barring damage, might realistically wear out – or at least, would be the hardest to DIY. At about $8 plus shipping, it’s a cheaper alternative for those who have to watch the $.

    Remember that magazines need attention just like the firearm. Perhaps they don’t need a disassembled cleaning after every shoot, but at least a good wipe-down with Rem Oil, and at least twice a year (or more, of course), pick a rainy Saturday and disassemble and clean the magazine proper, including oiling the spring.

    I have a WWII era Browning Hi-Power, with two original magazines. The firearm and the magazines still function fine almost 75 years later, no doubt due to regular care by my Army vet dad, and now me.

  • scaatylobo

    My preference for any “social guns” is to have at least [ I did say least ] 6 magazines for any and all.
    Easy to keep 3 at the ready at all times [ for EDC].
    And if you ever NEED, more than 6 loaded,odd’s are you wont live to see the emptying of them anyway.

  • John Walker

    I have been baby stepping toward magazine preparedness, but I’ll admit to buying too many guns and not properly supporting them. I like to have at least 4 magazines for my low capacity CCW’s, 8 each for all of the others and 12 per rifle. If a ban were to be announced in my state tomorrow, which is highly likely, my credit card would get a work out shoring up stock. I firmly believe I should own more, but that’s the reality right now and so I’m taking it a step at a time.

  • frankspeak

    easily made with a 3D printer…

    • frankspeak

      easy to stash, as well….