Black Aces Po’ Boy: Sub-$200 Suppressor

Po Boy

The federal laws on suppressor regulation have not changed, but the market sure has. A few years back, sound suppressors were a fairly rare commodity. Now, it seems like everyone is making, selling or buying cans. Even the big companies like Ruger and SIG SAUER have jumped into the game.

Black Aces Tactical announced a new sound suppressor that makes the game a bit more affordable for the average shooter. Called the Po’ Boy, the new Pro Series 56 sound suppressor is designed to offer a low price point with practical noise reduction. How cheap? $199. That’s less than the government tax on it.

The new can is designed to work great with an AR-style rifle chambered in 5.56 NATO. According to the company, it can be run full auto.

The Po’ Boy is a screw on suppressor usesย dual wall construction. The outside wall is made of 4140 steel while the inside wall is made of 316 stainless. It has a straight stack baffle and is user serviceable. A standard AR stock wrench is used to open it up.

Overall, the suppressor is 8″ long with a 1.5″ diameter. It weighs 25 ounces.

Noise reduction is better than 30 dB with 5.56 NATO ammo. Of course, a lot of things go into how much noise is made with the suppressor being just one part of the equation. However, the video below shows some of the testing the company did with the suppressor:

For less than $200, it looks like pretty good performance to me.



Richard Johnson

An advocate of gun proliferation zones, Richard is a long time shooter, former cop and internet entrepreneur. Among the many places he calls home is http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/.


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  • BenJamin

    And thus rings the death knell of SilencerCo.

    • d

      I think that you will find the weight of the cheap suppressor to be far more than more expensive cans,

      • James

        Just for reference, the SilencerCo Saker ASR 556:
        Weight 16.7000
        Length 6.37-7.33″
        Diameter 1.5″
        MSRP $864.00

        • Renato H M de Oliveira

          USD665 more for 8.3 oz less = USD80/oz saved.
          Unless you are sending the can to outer space, I find it hard to justify such cost penalty.

          • PK

            Hanging extra weight on the muzzle increases perceived weight quite a bit due to the offset of the added weight from the center of balance.

            Basically, the heavier a muzzle can, the worse the handling.

          • Renato H M de Oliveira

            Well, if you absolutely need to save 8.3 oz because you do hold your rifle hours a day, without any R&R possibility, AND have USD 665 burning in your pocket, then by all means go ahead.
            You may shave at least some of these 8.3 oz by spending some USD400 in a fancy forend with M-Lok (KeyMod sucks!) and the other USD 265 in other lightweight stuff – or spend all the 665 bucks in a lighter can…

          • iksnilol

            Considering a good suppressor weighs about 330 grams… one that weighs more than twice that is quite simply… ridicilous.

          • Renato H M de Oliveira

            “weighs more than twice that” AND “costs a fourth”.
            If the costs were comparable, sure it would be ridiculous. But they aren’t. The cost difference is far more substantial than the added weight.

          • iksnilol

            The cost difference is irrelevant if the product is obnoxiously large and bulky.

          • Renato H M de Oliveira

            Let your purchases match your intended use.

          • You know what’s even lighter than the SilencerCo can? Not having any suppressor at all because you can’t justify throwing an extra six hundred bucks at it.

          • LGonDISQUS

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        • GRIFFIN ARMAMENT SPARTAN 3
          LENGTH 6.25″
          DIAMETER 1.5″
          WEIGHT 12.5 oz
          Price $445

          • Renato H M de Oliveira

            Now THIS sounds (pun intended!) a nice deal! Twice the cost, half the weight.
            But I suspect that if/when HPA comes into reality, cheapo cans will sell like hotcakes.
            Those in the performance/weight class of Spartan 3 will remain. But the boutique ones should better brace themselves, hard times are coming.

          • izhmash

            I read some site that said the Spartan 3 has the best quality/price ratio on the market for a 5.56 suppressor.

      • BenJamin

        I’d think I’d rather save $665 and get the extra half pound

        • The Dude

          People who say they would only buy the cheap cans aren’t going to actually buy any can.

          • john huscio

            If hpa passes, the cheap stuff is gonna fly off the shelves while the $800 stuff collects dust on the shelf……Current regs and a lack of a broad choice in lower priced options are the only reason they sell at even a moderate rate.

          • The Dude

            If it passes, which it probably won’t, then you’re right. Garbage cans will sell like crazy to people who already buy garbage guns. I’ll keep buying known quantities that put out quality products. I don’t buy hi points and I won’t waste my time on a can built like one.

          • Michael W

            The can of choice for people that run a NcStar red dot on their one AR-15…

          • Rick O’Shay

            Sh*t on hi points all you want, they get the job done. I’d never own one, but they’re legendary for going bang when you need them to. People who buy hi points and are okay with them, would buy these kinds of cans and be okay with them. You’re not the target demographic, and it’s okay to not be included. You have standards. We get it.

          • BenJamin

            I got a Octane 45, Osprey 45, Omega, Hybrid, Specwar and Salvo 12. To be fair I got all of these for free, but if anything has taught me about working in the firearm industry; Higher cost doesn’t necessarily equal higher quality

          • Bierstadt54

            At the moment, yes. By the time one gets through all the hoops one might as well have purchased a quality suppressor. If HPA passes, though, suppressor ownership will be open to average hunters. At that point a lot of hunters are going to be mighty interested in something that keeps their ears from being rung like a bell at an affordable price.

          • Rick O’Shay

            Or they’re gonna buy the cheap can, hate it so much that they say that suppressors in general are “overrated,” and never buy another can in their life.

      • HSR47

        It’s not just the weight: The poor material choice is another issue. This can will be far more prone to erosion and rust than the more expensive cans on the market.

        There’s a reason that the expensive cans are expensive: They’re made of highly durable materials, which are more expensive and more expensive to machine. There’s also the massive amounts of R&D that goes into them in order to get the best performance possible.

        Yet another layer to the price is that the MSRP is often built with far more room in it: Mufflers don’t move as fast as Glocks, there’s more paperwork involved, and the long wait times tend to result in many of them sitting for over a year before they leave the building.

        For those thinking about buying one of these “budget” mufflers, don’t be surprised if your dealer charges you another $60-100 as a transfer fee, and don’t be surprised if there’s rust on it when you finally come in to pick it up in 9 months.

  • James

    I think the primary purpose of this might be to have a really cheap can to weld to a 10.5 inch barrel, so its over the 16 and you just leave it there as a permanent addition avoiding the 2nd tax stamp.

    • Paul Epstein

      I imagine there isn’t much market for manufacturer assembled versions of that right now because folks generally don’t want to buy a bunch of different cans, but if the HPA passes I think that would be a solid product. It would for sure be cheaper and I’d be much more confident in that assembly done by the suppressor company than getting it done custom.

    • That’s definitely a good plan for a can with a removable outer shell and serviceable baffle stack.

    • gusto

      does it still count if you can open it and take out the baffles for cleaning?

      • Sunshine_Shooter

        As long as the outside shell of the can stays permanently attached to the barrel, then yes.

  • neckbone

    About down to titanium home built solvent tube suppressor costs and weights. Let the HPA pass and unleash the market on these things.

    • Anonymoose

      Maglites, baby!

  • Chris Cosby

    I give them props for the price but yea that sucker is like half a pound heavier than a lot of 5.56 cans. I guess this is really a product just hoping for the HPA.

    If I’m going to spend the money for a nfa transfer at a dealer and then spend for the tax stamp(easilier 250 to 300 bucks for both) I’m going to pay extra and get the lighter can. Also I personally would rather have a qd mount.

    • USMC03Vet

      Time to hit the gym so you don’t fall out at the range carrying your rifle.

      Safety is paramount!

      • Renato H M de Oliveira

        +1

  • Has the customer service for this company improved at all over the years? I’ve heard some truly horrid things about their shotguns and support – or lack thereof – of the same.

    • HSR47

      Given the way the guy shilling their cans in the comments at SSD was acting, my guess is that their CS hasn’t changed.

  • jonp

    Unless your a snowflake beta male 8oz is not much weight for the savings. I have wanted one but have been held back by the price. Now I can afford one

    • The Dude

      LOL only a snowflake beta male would buy this.

      • jonp

        Damn. Busted!

    • Shankbone

      “Major suppressor manufacturing rep checking in for duty, sir!”

  • ExMachina1

    Honestly, I don’t know why all cans aren’t in this price range.

    • The Dude

      Because not all cans are built equally.

      • iksnilol

        THANK YOU!

        Finally someone gets it.

    • USMC03Vet

      Restricted market making for a niche market and thus inflated prices.

    • mazkact

      It is mainly about the cost of materials and machining qualities of material. Some materials are harder to machine and cost more in raw form hence a higher price.

    • HSR47

      * Cost of materials:

      This thing is built from alloys that aren’t as resistant to rust or erosion (baffle erosion can be a major issue, especially with SBR), largely because those alloys are less expensive and less costly to machine.

      * They’re selling direct to consumers:

      In this market, manufacturers typically sell to distributors, who in turn sell to dealers. Using middlemen like this likely raises prices somewhat, and certainly increases the amount of time that it takes for stuff to get to market.

      The consequence of selling directly to consumers is that it cuts dealers completely out of the loop, which means they’re likely to charge a $60-100+ transfer fee for each of these, and that’s assuming that they’ll even take the transfer. Personally, given the lack of professionalism I’ve seen from other “budget” silencer companies, and the lack of professionalism I’ve seen online from BAT, my inclination is to refuse to transfer one of these — To be clear, my issue is that I don’t want them dragging the company I work for into situations like other “budget” silencer companies have; Before we stopped taking cans from one of the other big names at this pricepoint they’d already shipped us two cans illegally. I sent out our FFL/SOT for those transfers, and I’m not going to put the company in the same position again if I can help it.

      * R&D

      Building silencers isn’t magic, but there’s a lot that goes into it. Rifle cans need to be designed to slow muzzle gasses as much as possible without unduly increasing backpressure (i.e. they need to slow the gasses from escaping the muzzle as much as possible without just causing those gasses to blow backwards out of the chamber), and they also need to be designed to be as durable as possible while also being as light as possible. that last isn’t just about saving weight, it’s also about ensuring that the internal volume is as large as it possibly can be, which allows more room for gasses to expand, which is one way to make mufflers quieter.

      * The cost of licenses and equipment.

      All of the above is expensive, and takes time. In order to design, manufacturer, and test mufflers, you basically have to have an FFL/SOT, and you have to pay ITAR fees. That means you’re looking at annual costs of ~$4,000 in licensing fees alone, and all before you get to premises, utilities, tooling, or payroll.

      * 95% of the market demands the best performance possible.

      The vast majority of the people who are actually willing to go through the current fingerprint/photo/paperwork/waiting bullshit are not generally willing to do it for less than the best that they can get. Why spend 200 bucks on a tax stamp for a POS when the same 200 tax stamp could go towards a can that is significantly better in every measurable metric?

      TLDR: A lot goes into making silencers, and the current regulatory and market dynamics mean that it doesn’t really make sense to make low-end “budget” mufflers like this. There are certainly decent options on the market that are relatively budget-friendly (or at least more budget-friendly than the absolute high-end of the current market), but they’re still in the $500-650 range because they’re made of the right materials.(see above about high material cost and high machine time cost).

      Given it’s construction, the BAT silencer being discussed in this article is the sort of silencer that will make a LOT of sense if/when there is a major shift in the way silencers are regulated, but not before.

  • AZgunner

    I see both sides of this. That’s a very attractive price point especially if (big if) the HPA passes. However, those acting like hanging an extra half pound off the very end of your weapon is no big deal are very mistaken. You will absolutely feel that half pound make a difference. It’s not a half pound evenly distributed, it’s a half pound far out in front of either of your hands.

    Will it make a difference when you’re shooting from a bench at a range twice a year? No. Will it make a difference when running carbine courses or camping and hiking with your rifle? Of course.

    Let your purchases match your intended use.

    • Renato H M de Oliveira

      Let your purchases match your intended use.

      +1

  • Grant

    The YHM Turbo has an MSRP of $489 including a QD muzzle brake. It weighs in at 13.5 oz and has an inconel blast baffle. Once this thing is actually shipping it probably won’t be too long until it is selling for around $400.

    I would much rather have a can that is almost 3/4 lb lighter, with a QD attachment, that is fully welded together. I get that people want to save money, but there are already good options out there for reasonable prices. A bargain basement can doesn’t have much appeal to me. I’d rather spend a few hundred more and get a better can that will last.

    • HSR47

      Another reason to go that route is that YHM is probably going to be around to support the Turbo for awhile. BAT may not even be around in a few years.

  • I never understood why silencers were so expensive anyways. its a metal tube with baffles…. even oil filters do the job…..

    • iksnilol

      I don’t understand why triggers are so expensive, it’s just a box with some springs in it.

  • iksnilol

    so it’s half as long as the barrel?

    And weighs 700+ grams?

    -_-

  • French Balloon

    Suppressor manufacturers in America have been fleecing the American gun community for years. A suppressor is little more than a threaded metal tube with baffles. There’s absolutely no reason why something that easy to manufacture should cost several hundred dollars – which is more than most firearms.

    You can get several different types of suppressors in countries like Norway and New Zealand for between $100 to $200 even though everything is more expensive there. That should give you an idea of how badly the suppressor manufacturers in America are ripping us off.

    It’s about time for a U.S. suppressor manufacturer to start selling suppressors at a more reasonable price. Hopefully this $200 suppressor is a glimpse of what’s to come over the next several years.

  • Claus ร˜kรฆr Holdt Hansen

    I never get why it is so stupid exspensive for a damn tax stamp, here in Denmark the permit is fred.

    • Andrea Goldstein

      Claus, the reason the tax stamp is so expensive is that it was actually meant to actively discourage American shooters from purchasing suppressors. Remember, the law was passed in the early nineteen thirties, when $200 was a TON of money. Of course, even now, $200 is not chump change; not to mention the nine month wait for the silencer paperwork to be approved by the Feds…

      • Claus ร˜kรฆr Holdt Hansen

        I know, but yeah just stupid, I can go down, buy a suppressor for my 22lr for 70-90$ and get the papers after a week, in a country typically regarded as strict on guns and gun parts.

        • Andrea Goldstein

          So true. And when I lived in France in the ’70s, I could go into almost any sporting goods store and buy as many firearm suppressors as I wanted (at least in .22 cal), with NO permit required, and at a cost of only $30 to $40 a supressor!

  • I know.

    I get it…I get it…it’s a lot of weight for all you “operators” on here, training for when the Chi-Comm come parachuting in. But some of us just want to bench-rest shoot and hunt without ear-pro…and without being >$1000 into it.