BREAKING: New Beretta SMG/PCC Image Leaked

Russian gun magazine “Kalashnikov” has published this image on one of their social media pages. It is taken in Beretta facilities. Supposedly these are the upper and lower receivers of a new Beretta submachine gun or pistol caliber carbine. Unfortunately, there are no details available yet. However, let’s take a close-up look at different portions of the receivers and try to find out or guess what features it will have.

So the parts are obviously made of some sort of polymer. Judging from the location of the slide release, magazine release and safety selector holes, the controls are going to be pretty similar to that of AR-15 rifles. You can also see that the pistol grip and trigger guard are single molded piece with the lower receiver.

The lower receiver also features an integral 6 o’clock Picatinny rail. The hole in front of the magazine well is most likely an axis pin hole to hold a trunnion or the barrel in place. Also, note the hook at the front portion of the upper receiver. I think, the upper receiver either slides in or hooks and pivots onto the lower receiver.

The upper receiver has set of holes on top and sides which are probably there to mount Picatinny rails on. I think they didn’t make the rails one piece with the receiver, to be able to attach aluminum rails. But it might not be the case because these receivers look to be unfinished products (maybe even prototypes). So it is also possible that the rails will be polymer too, just attached separately. The upper receiver also has a charging handle slot on the left side.

As you can see, there is not too much we can tell based only on a single picture. Nevertheless, it is exciting to see a new Beretta firearm being developed. Although Beretta already has the Cx4 Storm, this new gun will probably be more AR-15 oriented. I think it is going to be a stronger competitor for SIG MPX, CZ Scorpion EVO 3 and many other recently developed PCCs.

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  • The Dude (Noveske Fan)

    That isn’t a gun.

  • iksnilol

    But… Beretta M12?

    • DW

      SADJ did an article of the Pm12. It is actually not a cheap gun to make.
      But yeah, Pm12 is a classic and should be brought back

      • iksnilol

        It’s still made.

      • Amplified Heat

        Quite possibly the most complex FCG ever devised, all to deliver an awful open-bolt trigger pull at the end of the day

  • Claus Økær Holdt Hansen

    A updated TEC-9 is what I see together with the B&T P26

    • Nandor

      Exactly. All metal upper on a polymer lower held together with a metal pin screams cracking in that hole like the Tec-9.

      • miniguyvegas

        The upper has all of the traits of a 3D printed part with all the striations, like on an older printer. The lower looks to be a bit better finished but I’d bet its still a printed prototype. IIRC the first P26 prototype looked like that too.

        I picked up one of the P26’s instead of a Scorpion, just because the finishing is so much better, definitely worth the $200 premium, although you can find the Evo in stores and has an aftermarket, but after form 1 and the TP9 stock its pretty nifty. Fundamentally, they’re toys compared to some of the quality ARs for $500, but I wanted a toy not a tool.

  • James Earl Jones

    Looks like a 3 lug suppressor mount too and maybe ar-15 trigger group?

  • Major Tom

    That’s either a resurrected and modernized M12, their take on a Kiparis, or a shoddy knockoff of the MPX.

    Or maybe they’re trying something else and this is an early idea.

  • Edwin

    Hopefully it’s not a simple blowback.

    • JSmath

      Everything about the drawings indicates that it is, imo.

      • burningwar

        Sadly it appears so. Direct blowback 9mm carbines are a dime a dozen. HK is still able to squeeze some $2500 for its nearly 50 year old design simply because others don’t get it – if I wanted a direct blowback carbine and not burn money, I’d buy a reasonable Hipoint carbine. If I wanted to spend a bit of money in the process, I’d buy a Scorpion Evo. If I wanted to assemble it on my own, I’d buy parts for an AR in 9mm, and get a better trigger/aftermarket than any of these other 9mm PCCs will ever, ever have.

        If I had less sense than money, the HK is back on the market (sortof). Even SIG is aping them with the MPX, which is nearly there in every way (including pricing…).

        This Beretta will not even have the decency of sharing magazines with their existing firearms. I am also reasonable sure it will not share magazines with existing 9mm PCCs, just because they can.

        I just *cannot* wait for yet another polymer 9mm firearm that wants yet another “unique” magazine.

        • Alexandru Ianu

          They’re not even considering making it in a civilian version anyway. It’s a straight up replacement of the PM-12 for Italian Police units. It might share the mag with those judging by the long magwell.

        • Edeco


          Here’s my rant: I think adding space and weight to a 9mm may be a good idea. Yanno, just as a duty-size gun will outperform a pocket gun, there are gains to be made. But I’d want a more advanced system, not just a block of metal and a spring.

          Would I pay non-AR gas-rifle money for something like a Masterpiece Arms MAC with direct gas instead of blowback? Hard to say. For $2K I’d want it to eat any kind of ammo, including +P+, for a long time.

  • SBR

    SMG’s … urgh…

  • KestrelBike

    needs to be ~$700.

  • Jose

    I’m glad that Beretta decided to develop a true sub-machine gun; the Cx4 Storm is nothing more than a civilian carbine, with a short barrel; uses pistol magazines; a rail designed to support a hand grip; and selective fire mechanism. The PM-12, for all purposes, is a true sub-machine gun, whose production ended when they started developing the ARX-160 weapons system. They should have considered developing a version of this weapon as a pistol caliber supplement or conversion, just as the Tavor.

    Anyway, good for Beretta in doing the right think. And yes, the Brugger and Thommet design influence is quite evident, that is until they revealed its internal mechanisms. I hope that they resurrect the PM-12 or adapt the Cx4 mechanism on the new weapon, but, it’s just a guess. Time will tell.

    • Aerindel Prime

      The CX4 is a civilian carbine. (except for where militaries use it, for some reason)..are you talking about the MX4? That is the select fire version….

    • Scott Wagner

      If the 2nd and 3rd photos are of the “beretta”, they’re literally two year old photos of B&T products, so beretta isn’t developing anything.

    • Malthrak

      Beretta makes a version of the CX4 with a short barrel, selectice fire, etc, the MX4.

    • Lou

      “Nothing more than a civilian carbine.” For one, it’s obvious that you probably never fired one and or compared it to other pistol caliber carbine like; HK-94, UZI Carbine, Sterling carbine, SW-760, Marlin Camp 9, TNW, Kel-Tec, etc. as if you did you would know how much better of a pistol caliber carbine it is in many ways. Also, many police departments have used it over the years like St. Louis PD which had one in every patrol car AND India purchased over 36,000 Mx4 SMGs (select-fire Cx4s) for their police and military units 6 or so years ago which is why Beretta designed a 30rd 90 series magazine. 36,000 – stare at that number for a bit.

  • Aerindel Prime

    What does “AR 15 orientated” mean in regards to a gun with no parts in common with an AR 15?

    • James Earl Jones

      Same positioning and “feel” as an ar-15 when it comes to safety, mag release, etc

      • Hrachya H

        Exactly what James said. A more familiar gun for people who are used to AR-15s …as far as controls go.

    • roguetechie

      Just for future reference though you can use GPS to determine AR15 orientation (they struck down don’t ask don’t tell awhile ago).

      But if you want to go orienteering with your AR15…. that still requires a paper map…. And a compass

  • Scott Wagner

    Basic research > TFB. The second and third photos are from 2015 of B&T products.

  • 8166PC1

    But smg’s are obsolete the internet told me

    • Joshua

      They are in most SF/SoF in favor of rifle caliber SBRs.

      There’s always a place on the civilian market.

      .300blk is the new SMG caliber.

      • 8166PC1

        SMG’s use pistol calibers and last I checked .300 BLK is a rifle caliber.

        • Nick

          Rifle cartridge performance in a PCC sized package.

          • Gary Kirk

            So is any SBR build..

            But PCCs Have their advantages..

          • CommonSense23

            Other than price, what advantages?

          • valorius

            Uses the same magazines and ammunition as your pistol. You only have to stockpile one type of ammunition.

            The first is a huge tactical advantage, the second is a huge logistical and financial advantage.

          • iksnilol

            Oh yeah, let me pop my rifle mag into my pistol and get out of this situation.

            Only way I see it being useful is if you run out of PCC mags and then go over to pistol mags. Or you lose your PCC for some reason but still have their mags on you.

          • valorius

            You’re in the field in a survival situation. The bolt on your PCC shears a bolt lug, becoming useless. All of your ammo and mags still work with your sidearm.

            You’re in the field in a survival situation. Your SBR shears a bolt lug. You now only have a few pistol mags left, and all tht 5.56mm is now useless.

          • iksnilol

            What kinda crappy guns do y’all use over the pond that a bolt shearing is a realistic issue?

          • valorius

            It happens.

          • valorius

            If youre using a glock mag compatible PCC your 33 rd rifle mags will work perfectly well in your glock sidearm.

          • iksnilol

            That’s like on the top 5 of mall ninja things to do.

          • valorius

            Know who else would do that? Someone in the field whose rifle just broke, and all they had left was “rifle” magazines.

            Do they even have mall ninjas in Norway?

          • iksnilol

            Nø, we have only Mööse. What is a “mall”?

          • ostiariusalpha

            Slightly more compact magazines? Simple blow-back operation? A bit better MV to recoil ratio? I don’t know, I’m reaching for straws here.

          • Amplified Heat

            Mostly these things. Granted, they are less important for dudes who go knocking on doors, which is why full-size rifles with short-enough barrels but far more powerful ammunition are favored by offensive forces. For someone who’s job isn’t practicing in shoot-houses to the point they are numb to concussion & recoil and can high-speed operate like a robot, and instead has to either carry the gun all day or have it somewhere handy nearby for defensive response, the size/simplicity/low recoil & concussion/light weight aspects are paramount.

            The role for a PDW is very real, just not in our military because we practice good strategies that don’t revolve around letting Russian Spetsnaz paradrop into our rear-echelon areas. But on the military/police side of things, the exact same type of action in response to sudden terror attack or garden-variety violent crime is a very practical application for SMGs. Even to this day, while elite units tend to get full power SBRs, street-level patrols in Europe armed with more than handguns tend to get some sort of SMG in a PDW format, because the concept has proved useful & effective going on a century.

          • iksnilol

            Ammo and training.

            Easier to set up a 9mm safe range (indoors) and stockpiling one type of ammo is easier as well. I’ll disregard the magazine argument since nobody is gonna run a 15 rounder in their PCC or a 33 rounder in their pistol.

          • CommonSense23

            Yeah, I agree just kinda lumped those under price in my mind. Could have clarified my initial statement better.

          • Ed Ward

            Great point ‘caliber focus’ shall we say. Agreed, I have several of which I ‘focus’ and cannot foresee anything altering that strategy. Don’t get me wrong, I dabble a bit here in there with lots of different calibers and would love to entertain them all, but realistically it’s like women in that I can only afford so much ;). Regarding hi-cap mags, while I agree that it’s unconventional to run the 30 rounders in say a Glock or Beretta it is so nice to have that option if only while making my way over to their respective ‘Big-Brothers.’ Peace-of-mind–say one is leaving work and the ‘Zombies’ are attacking, it’s sure nice to have that 33 under my seat to complement a 26 running a couple of native ten rounders …Add a Sub-2000 and now were just rocking…

          • Stephen Jakubowski

            St Louis metro police traded their 12 ga for cx4 storms partially for magazine compatibility. 1 mag in the 92fs, 2 more on the belt, and another in the PPC in the car. I can see advantage, as all of your fellow officers have spare mags you can feed your carbine.

        • Joshua

          I wasn’t saying .300blk is literally a SMG caliber, just that it has become the new “SMG Caliber”, you know because its replacing actual SMG caliber guns.

          • valorius

            Is .300 blackout actually seeing widespread adoption by military and LE forces?

          • ostiariusalpha

            I guess you can define “widespread” to get whatever answer you want, but even in Podunkville, Eastern Washington, the cops have some .300 BLK SBRs.

          • valorius

            I wonder if they actually foresee an actual tactical use for them, or they were just “we gotta buy something or lose budget dollars” purchases.

          • Joshua

            Yes. LE in limited uses, but the US has a huge LE force so it’s hard to track all of them.

            JSOC has 2 rifles, the MCX and Honey Badger, and CRANE has a RFI for a .300blk rifle as well.

          • valorius

            What are they using them for? Assassination and sentry elimination type stuff?

          • Joshua

            That’s delving into territory I can’t discuss.

          • valorius

            territory you cant discuss with cop issues? They are public servants, it should all be a matter of public record.

          • Joshua

            Thought you were wanting me to divulge who and for what JSOC units are using them.

            Police I’ve seen with them are mostly SWAT.

          • valorius

            Nah, I’m ex military, I would never ask anyone to violate OPSEC and wouldn’t believe anyone who did was legit.

          • iksnilol

            I assume shooting people.

      • Gary Kirk

        No, that’s the new civilian sbr caliber.. SMG, speaks for itself.. Has to be a pistol caliber.

      • Dracon1201

        I don’t think they got what you were saying XD. You’re right, .300blk and 7.62×39 perform so well out of SBRs they make everything else irrelevant.

        • Joshua

          I didn’t think it would be so confusing.

        • PK

          I was shocked the first time I built a short barreled 7.62x39mm. The relatively small loss of FPS from an extremely short barrel reminds me of 12ga, another great performer from short barrels. Either of them can be used from an 8″ barrel nearly as effectively as a 20″ barrel!

        • valorius

          Either one in a SBR has far more recoil than a .45 acp based PCC of the same length and weight.

          • iksnilol

            Eeh, I think it it’s a wash.

            I mean, sure. 45 has less energy but it is wider and is often found in blowback actions.

          • valorius

            I agree that downrange it’s a wash (if anything i’d give .45 acp the edge in terminal performance- subsonic to subsonic), but recoil wise, the PCC should hold a nice controlability edge, especially in full auto.

          • Dracon1201

            Well, which matters more to you, muzzle blast or having a round with between 1.5-2x (Source: Ballistics by the Inch vs an average of various .300blk and 7.62x39rds) the energy and a ballistic coefficient 1.3-2x better? The .45acp doesn’t even come close in performance, and I LOVE .45acp. They’re completely different beasts, especially when you consider the load options the extra bullet length gives a .300blk. In addition, recoil wise, the .45 still has more than a .223, and they’re completely different impulses. They really aren’t that comparable. I appreciate both, though.

          • valorius

            Unless the target is armored .45 will get the job done just as well.

          • Dracon1201

            Yeah, and .22 will do the job just as well, and…

            We can go down that road all day, but .300Blk still has better capabilities, better range, and doesn’t arc like a rainbow. It is objectively better for PDWs whether you want to believe it or not. The excuses

          • valorius

            .45 seemed to do just fine in WWII, even with FMJ. I think a modern bonded core .45 acp probably has -better- terminal ballistics when fired from a carbine than .300 black out does. It’s a heavier bullet and it expands more.

          • Dracon1201

            They expand to an almost identical radius due to the longer ogive of the .300 allowing for longer, and therefore radially equivalent petal lengths. The bullet is only 10 grains heavier in .45acp, but the MUCH lower BC makes .45 lose velocity at range far faster.

            Also, no, it really doesn’t have better terminal ballistics. If we are even talking about comparing subsonics, they’re very comparable. In fact, subsonic .300blk often gets likened to the .45acp as a direct comparison. If we’re talking supersonic .300, .45acp isn’t even on the same field. Supersonic .300 is just under a 7.62×39 round.

            No, objectively .300blk is both more flexible and can be had in more and far better loads. If you don’t believe me, watch some ballistic gel vids on both. There is most certainly a difference. Most of it comes down to the fact that .300 is a rifle cartridge compared to a pistol cartridge. .45acp works in many applications, but .300 does all that and more, better.

          • valorius

            You show me a .30 bullet that will expand to over .90 caliber then.

          • Dracon1201

            I can’t post links, but Lehigh Maximum expansion (Which are even specifically for subsonic use) In .300blk expands to 1.2″. Google that. They’re the 194 grain loads.

        • CavScout

          7.62×39 doesn’t perform well in any barrel length….

          • Dracon1201

            Well that’s just very false. Care to provide context or an argument?

      • valorius

        I think (as in i’m pretty sure) i’d still rather have a .45 acp over a .300 blackout if it’s a suppressed application, provided i am able to use JHP ammunition.

      • iksnilol

        Doubt it’ll truly be the new SMG caliber until they make a 300 BLK Glock.

        • PK

          I’d still end up buying one…

    • Gary Kirk

      No.. Nathaniel F. told you, therefore it is so..

    • Threethreeight

      They are, except when it comes to cost. Cheaper to shoot at matches or to plink with.

    • snmp

      Over penetration in hight population density, Why not use 9X19mm AP (Like Russian 7N21 & 7N31) if that do the job

    • PersonCommenting

      Ill take all those pathetic ugly SMGs, Just send them my way. I dont want to but ill bear that cross.

  • USMC03Vet

    10mm or bust.

    • Lederhosen-Man

      Rather 9mm ++++p++++ !

    • JSmath

      Beretta don’t have the balls.

    • noob

      If it’s not roller delayed and the bolt doesn’t weigh a ton then I’m betting the case head will “bust”

      • burningwar

        It doesn’t even have to be roller delayed. Gas delayed (not as much of an issue in a carbine), lever delayed, or just straight up locked breech. Anything better than yet another 9mm direct blowback carbine with the Beretta logo.

    • jake rogers

      I worked with Beretta for several years and for 5 of them I begged for a m9 or 92fs chambered in 10mm. Every time I brought it up I received the same answer: it will never happen, a 10mm just doesn’t fit what Beretta is looking for. I’ve killed a truck load of deer and varmints with my glock 20 but m9 would be awesome.

      • Anonymoose

        A couple people have actually converted 96s to 10mm. iirc, they just reamed the barrels, put in stronger springs, and cut a notch in some STI 10mm doublestack 1911 mags. It was hard enough to get Beretta to release the M9A3 G decocker conversion piece, and you still can’t get the flush-fitting Elite 1A barrels from Beretta themselves.

        • FWIW: You are confusing some of the details with the 10mm conversions of the HK USP40. The HK USP40 can get away with using a STI magazine with minimal modifications due to the thickness of the HK’s original polymer magazines

          The Beretta 96 Brigadier 10mm conversion that I know about used a Tanfoglio 10mm magazine with a modified HK USP follower. Significant modification to the magazine well fore and/or aft was required to allow the magazine to fit. Fatter magazines like the STI and Para-Ord P16.40 would require modifying the sides of the magazine well.

          • Anonymoose

            Okay. Whatever they did, I’m not going to try it because I like having all my fingers.

  • Dickie

    Thats what you can change your chassis from the apx into

  • It doesn’t look that groundbreaking

    • Peter Nissen

      I have to agree – it’s kinda “meh”!

      • noob

        And why aren’t the vent holes MLOK?

    • mmathers

      The ghost of Intratec called. They want their Tec9 back.

  • Audie Bakerson

    But does it use an existing mag?

    • Nick

      Probably the same as the CX4, or some double stack double feed magazine.

    • Lederhosen-Man

      But does it takes Glock Mags..?

    • Hopefully not the existing, $70 mags for the TP9/P26 it was based on.

    • Gary Kirk

      Probably, with some modifications..

    • Takes TP9 magazines. The new Beretta PMX-D7 is the old B&T P26. Beretta purchased the rights.


    Cx4 storm was just weird and big (Although cx4 pistol is very underrated). Hopefully this will be under $700 and actually feel fun.

  • Gary Kirk

    I personally see, a B&T design, retrofitted with an AR LPK, magazines will be of existing platform style with modifications to accept AR style mag release..

    So in summary, a direct blowback action.. With an already existing base of aftermarket products, magazines, etc..

    But with enough proprietary parts to still try to make some profit..

  • Edward Novick

    This looks a lot cooler than the MPX or the EVO

  • LazyReader

    Beretta is bringing back the M12, the gun that launched a million 80’s movies.

    • iksnilol

      They never stopped producing it. Seems like they’ll stop making it in favor of this new contraption.

  • Charlie Victor Alpha

    Oooh, looks like the Battlestars are finally getting an upgrade.

  • jamezb


    Kill it with fire!

  • snmp

    If B&T want win some contract in UE they need to have facilities (factories) in UE with right capacity to do the delevery on time

  • Big deal. We in Europe (more specifically, we in Italy) have known it all along but we were embargoed from Beretta to talk about it.

    In case you want to know more, it’s called the Beretta PMX-D7, or Beretta PM-D7 or just D7 for short.

    It is already in distribution to some anti-fugitive units with the Carabinieri here in Italy and will enter mass service as a replacement for the Beretta PM-12S with all Italian law enforcement (in case you don’t know, the Beretta PM-12S in Italy is issued at a squad car level, just like shotguns or patrol carbines in the U.S.).

    And this gun is the reason why B&T up in Switzerland discontinued the P26: the Beretta D7 *IS* the B&T P26. In fact Beretta purchased the rights for the P26 from B&T.

    Official launch will be at DSEI 2017 in London, in September.

    No civilian variant in the works.

    • Amplified Heat

      Interesting, I didn’t realize Beretta was still purchasing rights/collaborating with neighboring arms companies like they used to. I guess B&T isn’t SIG, so that bridge remains unburned, for now. It’s funny, I just looked at a P26 closely, and there appears to be no differences whatsoever from the pictures above; you ‘d never know if not for the exposition.

      • As an Italian gunwriter, I sadly have to say that the reason Beretta is still purchasing rights from other companies is that it lost ability to come out with original and effective designs of its own. A striker-fired pistol like the APX can not take five years in the making in the 21st Century.

  • valorius

    How is that in any way AR-15 oriented?

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  • Danger Dave

    I hope beretta doesn’t actually make this. They just need to make an updated version of the CX4 keeping the overall design and ergonomics. I like that the cx4 has the mag well in the grip. Maybe they could spice it up without all the import restrictions this time. I’d bet a dollar that they name it the ACX.

  • S762

    Looks a lot B&T’s P26


    Correct me if I am wrong, but I think it is illegal for TFB contributors to post on Sundays.

    True or False?

    EDIT: My way of teasing you guys 😅😉


    So cool!

  • Jtx

    Looks like a modern tec 9 to me

  • TangledThorns

    After the ARX failure I’m officially done with Beretta. They always seems to be a five years behind a trend and with weak competition.

  • El Dude

    It looks like a modified B+T P26. Perhaps Beretta was who bought the design?

  • Skippy the Virgin

    Will there be an Airsoft model?

  • Looks like the Tec-9 we’ve been looking for!!

  • VoiceOfDissent

    Looks pretty similar to an unfinished B&T AP upper/lower to me…

  • John Brown Jr

    Please be a modernized Model 38!

  • richard kluesek

    Pistol caliber carbines with 16 ” barrels are popular in tyrant jurisdictions where it is difficult to secure a handgun license but still possible to procure full sized shoulder arms, so this could be commercially marketed as a semi auto as well.

  • pismopal

    After I put my iPad on my nightstand there is not room for a SMG…dang!

  • Rogertc1

    I’ve a cute little WASR Micro Draco with a 7″ bbl. Tossed in a folding brace on it and it is a cute little bundle. No SBR registration.

  • Ron Walsh

    I would love to get hold of even the empty upper and lower. It would make an amazing base for a home built firearm.