UPDATE: FN America’s Bid Protest Dismissed

Last month we reported that FN America was protesting Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s decision to go with the Sig P320 as their new sidearm. Sadly there isn’t much transparency when you are looking into these protests, and quite a lot is left to the imagination.

A quick check of the Government Accountability Office’s website shows that both protests lodged by FN America have been dismissed clearing the way for SIG to deliver the first pistols to ICE per the contract.

We reached out to both SIG and FN to find out what had been protested, both companies declined to comment on the record.

You can see both protest decisions by clicking HERE and HERE.

While on the GAO website, I decided to look up the Glock protest and found that it has still not been decided. At the time this post is being written the dispute over the new MHS pistol is still very much alive lending some life to the rumors that there are some issues with the P320 that came out during testing.

You can check the status of the Glock MHS protest by clicking HERE.

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  • Tim

    I heard SIG will delivery the P320 for $207/copy. Is that even possibly true?

    • PK

      It could be, certainly, if they also secured a contract for parts/mags/maintenance and so forth. A surprising number of companies sell the main product inexpensively when the contract calls for everything that goes with it to be bought directly from them for a number of years.

      • Not only that, but there are going to be a lot of people that will want the Army pistol. SIG and other companies have made a lot of money selling the guns submitted to previous competitions or other contracts.

        But I am willing to bet that they are still making a small profit at whatever price they are selling the guns at.

        • some other joe

          Consider that the grip module (the frame) is rumored to be a $25 part at agency pricing. At IO pricing for the unit commemorative gun I just ordered, extra barrels are around $139 and grip modules are $32, as are mags. I’m really not surprised at a sub $225 price. But that’s the gun, and based on the M9, COEI is only one mag and the TM. Add an estimated $50 for two more mags and ~$100 for a 6004 (that’s basically what the RFP described, right?) ’cause M12s are so pass√© and a cleaning kit and and and….
          Of course, in a couple of years when the initial issue push is complete, yeah, SIG’s gonna make a killing selling the M17 variant for around $700 a pop (based on current MSRP). It may even have a gimmick of including an exchange kit ($499 retail or $299 IO) to go between the full size and compact variants for, say, $950.
          I think the only question is if SOCOM will embrace it and stop spending mission funds on Glocks.

          • While some XM17 and XM18 will undoubtedly be accepted to replace any M9 and M11 in USSOCOM inventory, the “compact” XM18 is still larger than what SOCOM called out for its Low Visibility Concealable Pistol (LVCP) requirement. The LCVP requirement led to the adoption of the Glock 19 and 26.

    • nova3930

      Wouldn’t shock me in the least. Sell the gun at cost and make your money on everything else for the next 20 years….

  • hikerguy

    If it was tested by members of our own armed forces and the SIG is what they wanted, and it met all the requirements, then so be it. They will be the ones having to use it.

  • Major Tom

    “lending some life to the rumors that there are some issues with the P320 that came out during testing.”

    Like what? “Waaaah! It’s not a Glock!” isn’t really an issue.

  • “At the time this post is being written the dispute over the new MHS pistol is still very much alive lending some life to the rumors that there are some issues with the P320 that came out during testing.”

    Or the group that it was assigned to it might simply has a larger workload.

    The Army is very sensitive to how political the MHS program is. If the contract falls through, and they are forced to rebid it or even go through a whole new set of testing Congress can kill the program. So it is highly unlikely that they ignored major issues and ramrodded a gun that failed tests into winning.

    Heck how many rumors still swirl around the M9 contract years later, even though the GAO protest report (which is very detailed and finds no evidence of any of the rumors to be true) is freely available on the internet.

    • The scuttlebutt I’ve heard is that Glock is arguing that SIG-Sauer did not account for the cost of the mandated test wipes to check for radioactive leakages from the tritium night sights.

      • That would be a weird argument, tritium is a beta emitter. You would literally have to swallow it to experience any negative effects. And the US military has been using tritium sights and watch bezels for years.

        • Major Tom

          Even if you did swallow it, beta radiation (free electrons) doesn’t do much. Worse, tritium has a relatively slow decay and emission rate so it’d probably be cycled through the body before super exposure becomes an issue.

        • It is goofy, but the RFP was very specific.

          C. Radioactive Material
          C. Radioactive Material Justification
          Paragraph 9-3.b.(2) of RDECOM Regulation 385-10 states: “Use of radioactive materials in Army materiel must be minimized, as much as possible, consistent with mission requirements. Radioactive materials should not be used in Army materiel unless there are no reasonable non-radioactive alternatives. It must be established and documented for the record why the use of radioactive material is the only means of meeting military operational requirements.” The Contractor shall submit justification for the use of radioactive material DI-MISC-80508B (CDRL A014).
          C. Radioactive Wipe Test
          In accordance to AMC Regulation 385-2, Ionizing Radiation Safety Program, radioactive materials shall not be permitted on the MHS. The Contractor shall conduct a radioactive wipe test on all handguns and sights to prove that there are no radioactive parts, and submit a
          Radioactive Wipe Test Report, DI-NDTI-80809B (CDRL A015).

          I’ll need to look for it, but I seem to remember that tritium night sights were specifically called out in one of the vendor Q&A sessions.

      • Stan Darsh

        Isn’t Steyr now suing SIG over a patent for trigger packs in modular handguns?

    • nova3930

      Hell, every part of Army contracting is backed up months, wouldn’t shock me if that’s having an impact on GAO processing the protest….

  • USMC03Vet

    But muh appeal to authority marketing!

    • Noishkel

      Makes about as much sense as Glock’s appeal appeal to popularity and dictionary definition marketing in this situation.

      I don’t even like Glocks as is myself. But honestly: they didn’t even bother to come up with a military version of their pistol. They just tried to use their political weight to stuff their product down the military’s throat so they can get a fat contract. At least everyone else in this trial showed up with a product that was made to fit those specs instead of trying to make their PR fit the specs.

  • Bearacuda

    I’m curious as to what those rumoured malfunctions were. It seems like a simple, rugged action to me but I’m not an engineer.

  • Seth Hill

    So Steyr didn’t file a protest, but instead are suing.

  • valorius

    Lawyers. Can’t live with ’em, can’t kill ’em.

  • Shaun Connery Oliver II

    Did anybody hear about Steyr’s lawsuit against SIG for patent infringement? I am just wondering if anyone has heard about it.

    • Going to be months before you see the first actions in relation to that lawsuit, and years before it is fully litigated.

      • Stan Darsh

        Apparently Steyr doesn’t want SIG to pay a license fee, they want them to cease all production. Yet if the patent expires in 2018, wouldn’t SIG be clear to produce P320s from January onward?

        • Steyr can still get damages from past infringements.

          Of course that assumes that they succeed in defending on their patents. If Steyr doesn’t win a temporary injunction, SIG will probably harp on every little differences between Steyr’s patented features, and the P250/320 design.

          If Steyr wins an injunction I am thinking that SIG will try to settle with Steyr.

        • Geoff Timm

          I suspect Steyr wants to get bought out. Geoff Who is a low, suspicious character of dubious origins.

          • Dakota Raduenz

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