Daniel Defense To Manufacture 3D Printed Wave Silencer

Credit: The Gun Collective

Silencer news nerds unite! A recent leak making the rounds on social media shows what appears to be a yet-to-be-announced 3D Printed suppressor from Daniel Defense. The DD Wave, a name registered by Daniel Defense earlier this year, looks like a quick disconnect rifle suppressor. As of this writing, I have confirmed that at least one major distributor already has the Wave on order.

The expansion of additive manufacturing into all facets of the firearms industry should come as little surprise to most “gunsumers” (#gunsumers trademark pending: TFB_Pete). As technology advances and industrial processes become less costly, more companies will be able to utilize techniques that were once reserved for advanced engineering firms.

My review of the Delta P Brevis II Ultra 3D Printed silencer is my most read review to date. As I said before, it is a unique silencer with unique applications. But there was some heated controversy in the comments section, with a few readers stating that additive manufacturing is not ready to contain the harsh forces of a rifle’s muzzle blast and that the process is best left to prototyping.

So now that power house rifle maker Daniel Defense is jumping into the 3D Printed silencer game, will the critics change their tune? Is this the beginning of a “mainstream” silencer manufacturing evolution? And at a reported MSRP of ~$1100, are you a buyer?

Let’s hear it all in the comments below.

The Daniel Defense Wave 3D Printed rifle silencer:

DD Wave

Credit: FourGuysGuns

 

So, why the name ‘Wave’? Does it refer to the appearance of the baffle stack or some part of the manufacturing process? Let’s see what the next few days brings us.


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  • TheNotoriousIUD

    For $1200 I wanna know exactly what this thing is made out of.

    • it’s just Boris

      Laser fused inconel powder, from what I’ve read elsewhere.

      And since powdered metals can be excitingly flammable, let’s hope DAD does a very good job of cleaning it out before it gets to the consumer…

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        Interesting.
        Inconel is well suited to high pressure/temps. I work in the oil/gas field and see industrial ball valves in that material. Im not familiar with the properties in powder form.

        • iksnilol

          Everything in powdered form is flammable.

      • F

        I’m sure the folks at DD are complete idiots and the thought never crossed their mind. Duh

        • it’s just Boris

          I didn’t say they never thought of it, I said I hope they do a good job of it.

          Or did I use words with too many syllables for you?

          • D

            OK, since comprehension is not a skill of yours, I will rephrase:

            I’m sure the folks at DD are complete idiots and the thought of doing a very good job of cleaning out the residual powder out of the suppressor after manufacturing never crossed their mind. Duh.

            Is that easier for your small mind to comprehend?

      • Jack

        Let’s hope they used the right thread pattern, checked those threads for concentricity, ensured all the baffles have holes (the correct size) and that they did the proper paperwork for manufacturing it as well!!

  • James Earl Jones

    NASA is using 3d printing to build the new turbopumps and rocket engines for the SLS. I’m sure the technology is capable of handling the pressures and temperatures seen in a small arms suppressor.

    • nova3930

      Yep. The durability of 3D printed objects is determined by the process and materials used.

    • Wow!

      I think the main purpose of 3D printing silencers will be the same as 3D printing itself, for prototyping and setups that can’t afford the monetary cost or space for specialized production machines. By being able to produce complex shapes without the need of producing dies for sintering or whatever production process would be used for the product, I assume there will be a lot more empirical testing to back the current mainly computer simulation dominated research.

      While 3D printing is strong, the key things holding 3D printing back as a production device is the cost of the filament (where this part ultimately determines the quality of the final product), and the slow speed of production. While in all manufacturing processes there is a balance between precision and speed, the gap is especially evident in additive manufacturing where it can take a few days to make something on a printer that can be made on a CNC in a few seconds to a minute.

      • Douglas McHardy

        3d printing of the direct metal laser sintering method has been manufacturing rifle suppressors since 2012 my 5.56 cal printed Titanium can has had 8600 round down it now hot enough to glow in daylight a couple of times and its still fine

        • Wow!

          I don’t disagree that the process can produce strong and functional parts. The key issue arises when you need a high scale of production. It is purely a logistics question. Additive manufacturing is great for prototyping, complex or small order parts, or workshops without the money or space for other machines. However, it seems a lot of people are trying to push this as a replacement for other manufacturing techniques when it was never designed to do so. 3D printing was designed to bring more specialized manufacturing capabilities to the less professional public, without the need of training or laborious work by hand.

  • D

    3D printing is great for making products unable to be made by standard subtractive machining. Why go to the expense if 3D printing only to get a form factor identical to suppressors costing less?

    • SGT Fish

      its one solid piece, having a lot less failure points and a lot less to go wrong. no welds, no threaded joints, no bolts and nuts. Also you can save a lot of weight by not having those connections and increase the internal volume, which we all know = increased sound suppression

      • D

        Thanks for the explanation

      • Wow!

        Technically 3D printing has a heck of a lot more failure points, but the advantage is that the failure points are even rather than localized around single areas like welds. The advantage is minimal, and I think the bigger advantage of 3D printing is the ability to test designs faster than we currently can, than as an actual production device as the cost of material and the slow speed definitely adds up to that higher MSRP.

    • it’s just Boris

      The outside of the can is conventional. My question would be what the baffles look like (if there are baffles in a conventional sense) since, as you say, additive manufacturing imposes a different set of constraints.

      Thus, also, my question about cleaning it out. Some AM prototypes I’ve seen would be difficult if not impossible to clean thoroughly.

      • SGT Fish

        cleaning of centerfire rifle cans is not required. 22s are the only cans that really need cleaning, and pistol cans that have a lot of cast bullets through them can benefit from a cleaning after A LOT of rounds

  • Vet for Trump

    “And at a reported MSRP of ~$1100, are you a buyer?”
    Not only no, but Hell No.
    My Form 1 30 Caliber suppressor cost me $190 and $200 to ATF.

  • carpkiller

    1100 dollars. I.ll take ten at that price.

  • argh

    Have been using 3d printed cans in both ti and ironical for about 5 years In New Zealand, some with very high round counts https://www.oceania-defence.com so its very proven tech in my mind

  • LetsTryLibertyAgain

    I assume the Wave name is a reference to internal baffle geometry that can only be manufactured via an additive manufacturing (3D printing) process. Computational fluid dynamics has come a long way lately and can now model transonic, supersonic, hypersonic and turbulent flow to a much greater extent than was previously possible, but a suppressor operates with impulses as opposed to the much more steady state flow that CFD is designed to calculate, so suppressors, muzzle brakes and compensators are a bit more of a trial and error process. 3D printing is ideal for exploring engineering intuition, testing and developing new products. Basically, 3D print a design that you think will work better and test it. If it’s better, keep the design. If not, toss it. Repeat until you are happy with the results. Additive machining has the potential to create more effective suppressors than could be made with conventionally machine baffle designs.

    The STL files for the DD Wave should be available for the rest of us to print in ABS and wrap in Kevlar for single use suppressors. 🙂

  • Douglas McHardy

    look up Oceania Defense, they’ve been printing Titanium suppressors since 2013 released their QD version 18 months ago and have patents for it. i’ve got a 556 and a QD 308 can and the 556 is at 8600 rounds the 308 has had 3000 since October 🙂