North Korean “OICW” Combined Assault Rifle and Automatic Grenade Launcher Revealed During Day of the Sun Parade

North Korea recently celebrated its national holiday, the Day of the Sun, commemorating the birth of the founder of the communist hermit-nation, Kim Il-Sung. In true communist fashion, the holiday was marked by a large military parade where all the latest North Korean hardware was on display, including several new ballistic missiles, the latest North Korean tanks and artillery pieces, and of course small arms as well. Notably, the North Korean People’s Army brought a new combined assault rifle/grenade launcher to the parade, in the style of the cancelled US Objective Individual Combat Weapon.

Image source: Akula_941

 

You can see the new North Korean OICW at about the 41 minute mark in the parade video below:

The new combination weapon appears to be based on the North Korean Type 88 assault rifle, which is a modification of the Russian AK-74 pattern of assault rifle. It is mated to a bolt-action grenade launcher, similar to the South Korean K-11, and a large and presumably sophisticated sight.

This makes North Korea the third Asian nation to introduce an OICW-type weapon, after South Korea, and China with its ZH-05/QTS-11.

Image source: Historical Firearms via Facebook

 

A clearer view of the new weapon. This shows that the rifle is clearly based on the Type 88, with a bolt-action grenade launcher portion and a sophisticated site. The rifles also appear to be equipped with the new North Korean quad stack magazine. Image source: Akula_941

 

H/T Akula_941 and Historical Firearms



Nathaniel F

Nathaniel is a history enthusiast and firearms hobbyist whose primary interest lies in military small arms technological developments beginning with the smokeless powder era. In addition to contributing to The Firearm Blog, he runs 196,800 Revolutions Per Minute, a blog devoted to modern small arms design and theory. He is also the author of the original web serial Heartblood, which is being updated and edited regularly. He can be reached via email at nathaniel.f@staff.thefirearmblog.com.


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  • Red McCloud

    OICWs I think are the perfect weapons for mounted infantry or units who primarily stay in their vehicles. Weight and bulkiness ain’t really a concern if 80% of the time you’re in a Humvee on patrol, and the ability to have a programmable airburst grenade launcher for taking out entrenched targets, such as during an ambush for example, along with an underslung carbine, seems perfect. But ‘it’s too heavy we don’t like it’ – US military circa 2004.
    I doubt the nork version is any good though if one looks at how messy the adoption of the K11 was (and still is due to design defects and absurd unit price). And South Korea actually CARES about developing their weapons for use, not looks.

    • Evan

      Except that for mounted infantry, you want a relatively compact and maneuverable weapon. Essentially the opposite of that monstrosity.

  • Ευστάθιος Παλαιολόγος

    That’s an insane length of pull….!!
    flanker7

    • Dr. Longfellow Buchenrad

      Thats got to be at least 18″ maybe 20″.

    • jono102

      A big guy would struggle getting in a firing position with that abortion, let alone a little malnourished NK soldier. If your master arm is at full extension to reach the pistol grip, your non master hand has a show of offering any support to the weapon.

  • Dr. Longfellow Buchenrad

    So the title says “Automatic Grenade Launcher” but the text says “bolt action genade launcher” I assume the latter is correct as it is a bit daft to have a full auto anything that feeds from a single digit capacity magazine. That however is disappointing as I came here after reading the title really excited about pointing out the stupidity of North Korea’s most recent endeavor.

    • CommonSense23

      Well the 1911 was described as a Automatic also.

  • Polaritypictures Ken

    Must be a pain in the ass to strip, let alone carry. Thing must use batteries(D cell?). And how is thing better than a under barrel Grenade launcher?

    • iksnilol

      I dunno, how is an mag fed, airburst grenade launcher with specifically designed scope any better than an M203?

      Geeez, Louise.

      • Polaritypictures Ken

        well I seriously doubt that it’s a airburst grenade as complexity of the round/sight is expensive let alone deployable in the number that are shown from a backward country. They are still using the ak as the platform when their many more update guns out there(Even from kalishnikov). If the Airburst concept is feasable wouldn’t you think that it wil be deployable more wide spread than it is? I was joking about the D cells, but seriously having to power the thing(in a backward country that has no solid power grid it self) with a army that is not technologicaly advanced is a joke. Your gonna have to have the unit be equipped with a power generator to charge the battery packs of each rifle.

      • LCON

        faster on the follow up, better range and precision. but I don’t think it’s a operational system for the North Koreans. definitely not the Air burst anyway. best case for them is it works like a Neopup more likely though hollywood https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c37b04cd93fddf42fb0c59c773f79326b31b01e7c4dca41b8e62bb6922332cbc.jpg

    • Bert

      Yes to both statements in your first sentence. The sight, if electronic, would use batteries, and seeing as we use various sights that need batteries, I don’t understand that criticism. Now that last question, there may be a reasonable answer to. I would assume working the bolt on a mag fed GL is faster than reloading a M320, and a little faster than the m203. I however do not subscribe to the theory behind under barrel grenade launchers, and prefer bloop guns stand alone.

      • Chris

        And round for round 40mm always trumps 25mm as this looks to be !

    • Baggy270

      Looks like my Johnny Seven from the 60’s!

  • Twilight sparkle

    When I first saw the k11 I thought South Korea had been reading too much manga, now that I see this I think they may have said they were adopting the k11 just to get North Korea to waste too many resources to design something to counter it.

    • therealgreenplease

      Well played South Korea. Well played.

  • Joshua

    That thing looks horrible compared to Daewoos k11.

    • Requiescat in pace

      And even the Daewoo K11 looks quite weird.
      And really heavy to run around with it all day long.

  • TheNotoriousIUD

    Can we get our dudes some fingerless gloves??
    We cant have the Norks out-cooling us.

    • TJbrena

      The fingerless gloves prove how behind the times they are, actually. Those haven’t been cool since the early 2000s at best.

      • RealitiCzech

        Retro is cool again. I’m getting ready to release tactical Magnum shorts, I know they will be a big seller.

        • Giolli Joker

          James is ready to pre-order.

          • iksnilol

            In extra small.

    • Stephen Paraski

      Nose-Pickers.

    • zipper

      “Norks” -I like it!

  • Lance

    Looks like a standard Type-88 withe a large automatic GL attached.

    • Sianmink

      Bolt action. you can see the bolt handle clearly in the last picture. It looks highly inspired by the S.Korean K-11, in fact it looks to be copied rather shamelessly, only adapted to an AK style carbine rather than AR.

      Considering how the K-11 barely works, I’d assume this Nork version is just for show.

      • LCON

        All I can figure is they want the Silhouette of the K11 If they gear up some of there SOF guys with copies of ROK uniforms issue them these and a few real Daewoo rifles bought off the shelf keep themselves at a distance they can infiltrate.

        • Tom

          Might need to give them a few good meals first as I imagine most South Korea soldiers would be very suspicious of anyone as gaunt looking as the average N. Korean.

          • LCON

            The North Koreans operate in a food Pyramid, The KPA is near the top tier of the North Korean food chain and the units of the NKSOF are even higher up the only higher level are members of the government or the Kim clan. the Gaunt looking average North Korean may not be able to blend in but the NKSOF troops are better feed, better equipped and trained than Their peasant farmers.

  • John

    I’m assuming those are traditional grenade launchers and not the airburst the OICW was attempting…can’t see NK having the capability to build microchips

    • TheNotoriousIUD

      China is more than happy to sell them.

      • No one

        You’re really overestimating how much China actually like NK.

        It’s really not alot, They’re only tolerated because Kim needs to be in power for NK to not be their problem to clean up.

        • LCON

          They mostly Tolerate because they use the DPRK as a Buffer state to keep us or rather U.S. off there boarders.

          • No one

            It’s far more complicated then that to be honest.

          • Tom

            The explanation I was once given by an ethnic Chinese Singaporean living in the PRC was that China sees North Korea as a rabid dog, under most circumstances you would shot it but this particular dog happens to guard China’s back yard from the Americans.

          • Evan

            The whole problem with the Korean peninsula in a nutshell. Nobody likes the status quo, but it’s a fragile situation and nobody really wants to change it. The Chinese don’t want American troops on their border, the South Koreans don’t want the economic and social nightmare of integrating North Korea (though they may claim they do), the US doesn’t want a war that could drag China and possibly even Russia in (Russia also shares a small border with North Korea), and nobody likes the prospect of a nuclear war at all. The current regime in North Korea is unsustainable in the long run, and I wouldn’t be overly surprised to see regime change in the DPRK without reuinification.

          • Young Freud

            Don’t forget that Japan and Taiwan don’t want an united Korea because, once the kinks get worked out, it would economically dominate the Asian markets right after China.

          • Evan

            Good observation. I hadn’t even thought about that. Obviously, the short term gains would be all for Japan, as reunification would be a financial disaster for Korea. But long term, you make a great point. The resources of North Korea without the insane government would be a massive boon to South Korea, and, after a couple decades, would put them in competition with Japan. Reunification would also make South Korea a nuclear power, which is an idea that Japan surely isn’t fond of.

      • LCON

        If this was the Chinese, it would be a slightly modified QST11. All they would need to do is change the bolt and magazine well to fit AK74 rounds and Magazines. This is Not a QST 11. Frankly I think it’s a fake. The magazine, lack of glass in the scope and weird barrel make me think mock up

        • TheNotoriousIUD

          I was referring to China selling tech in general not this rifle specifically. I dont know jack about these guns.

          • LCON

            To build an Actual Airburst rifle like the XM29/XM25,K11 or QST11 you need 3 major parts. the first is easy a low velocity rifle action the QST is a single shot bolt action, K11 is a bolt action repeater and XM25/XM29 used a recoil action semi auto. That’s basic mechanical gun design. the next parts get more complicated you need next a fire control system with a laser rangefinder and ballistic calculator that plugs into the breach and can interface with the last part the Airbursting grenade round. those are hard and expensive. A system like the Neopup is far cheaper.

          • FulMetlJakit

            I like the Rheinmetal solution, a projectile-velocity-measuring and individual-round, wireless/remote fuse timing system on the end of the barrel.
            Expensive route for sure though.

          • No one

            Honestly, The PLA mostly abandoned trying to fit a ton of microtech in their 20mm grenades because they found, while they could do it, it would sacrifice too much in the space of actual explosive filler and frag lining, that’s not to say they stripped them completely, but they had to cut a few of the “luxury” features as 20mm doesn’t give you alot of space to work with and they valued a higher HE content and better frag liner more.

            The American OICW and XM25 has a fatter 25x40mm grenade which gives you a tad more room, perhaps that’s more ideal if you really want to go for a smart GL.

          • Friend of Tibet

            Not at all, China doe’t sell weapons or anything related to NK now days. China tolerate NK at best, that’s it.

    • Chris

      Willing to bet theirs are a garden variety 25mm ( Or similar ?) Or 20mm for even less efficient explosives !

  • Big Daddy

    Thy’re like Iran, none of their stuff really works all that well but to the untrained eye it looks impressive. That’s what communism is all about, ignorance, stupidity and a childish mentality making sure everything is just as crappy for everyone. Their effectiveness as a fighting force is debatable. I have feeling they’d all give up for a good meal, a hot shower and some relaxing time away from a nut job that you have to be on guard 100% of your lifetime as not to say or do anything perceived as subversive.

    • ostiariusalpha

      I think you would be shocked by the percentage of the N. Korean rank-and-file military that have complete and unquestioning allegiance to the Kim regime; people have an incredible capacity for self-rationalizing the most ridiculous beliefs as long as they can maintain an internal consistency with circular logic. Besides the natural affect of tribal loyalty to their nation, any attempt to violently unseat Kim would bring disorder which would simply confirm their belief that outsiders have nothing but evil intentions towards their homeland.

      • Wow!

        The “unquestioning allegiance” is in large part propaganda and contextual. Any socialist/communist dictatorship relies heavily on it’s people having no other alternatives (hence, why social programs force participation rather than volunteering). Like the imperial Japanese, no matter how steadfast one’s mindset is, people will change when they are exposed to something truly better that rocks their previous perception. The thing is people have become adjusted to the norm and given up revolting in NK, just as how many of the young generation don’t see terrorism as a threat and think it can’t be stopped anyways when the reality is that it matters more on how you approach the problem than how long you have tackled it.

        A good correlation is to look at gun owners today. How many have you heard on the range who said with bitter grapes “machine guns are useless and for people who can’t shoot well?” They may say that now, but give them a select fire to own and their opinions will likely 180.

        • James Madison

          “Like the imperial Japanese, no matter how steadfast one’s mindset is, people will change when they are exposed to something truly better that rocks their previous perception.”

          You skip over what it took for the Imperial Japanese TO change. 2 million casualties (US/Japanese combined) and 2 nuclear attacks. Not to mention an invasion plan of the Japanese mainland that estimated millions of American and Jap casualties that would occur due to their willingness to die for the emperor along with an honor culture that shamed surrender and defeat.

          The cultural similarities of the Imperial Japanese and the current North Korean culture are striking and have FAR more in common than the crumbling Soviet Union of the 90’s.

          Totally different cultures.

          Also, don’t forget that Hitler made the SAME mistake in WWII of underestimating Stalin’s “socialist/communist dictatorship” when he decided to invade Russia. He thought he would invade an the whole communist structure would crumble.

          • Wow!

            That is japanese society as a whole. We are talking about individuals. Society always changes slower than an individual since the pressure there is not necessarily convincing but military/political dominance. Many captured Japanese converted when they realized their enemy was not going to do thing to them like they did in China.

            Hitlers mistake was stretching his resources too thin. His betrayal of Stalin did cause a great deal of Russia to fall (partially because Russia themselves were prepared for an offensive strategy against Germany, not a defensive one) but he was not able to maintain his momentum. The USSR in WWII doesn’t really match NK because they were still fresh off their revolution and actually were facing an enemy who wanted to kill and do harm to them as people. USSR in cold war on the other hand is a different story. Many soviet double agents we had only had to be promised US citizenship at the end in order to defect. The hard part was getting them to trust us that we were not a communist sting operation posing as American recruiters. In contrast the communists often had to use blackmail, sex, or money as bribes or threats in order to get Americans to defect, and then the most that was done was loosening of lips due to negligence.

      • Colonel K

        If that’s true, please explain why thy East Bloc and Soviet Union fell apart so quickly and so completely.

        • ostiariusalpha

          They fell apart internally, and largely without the violence of an invasion. Even so, the Defense Department of the USSR and KGB tried to overthrow the reform government in a coup during August 1991. And they might have come closer to succeeding if they had captured Boris Yeltsin, who rallied the public against them. The civilian population in N. Korea is in a much weaker position to stand up against their military than the European Com-Bloc citizens were also.

          • Colonel K

            Weaker position, yes. But if enough pressure is applied to North Korea, or if it is invaded, it will fall apart very quickly. Only the die-hards who have nothing to lose will fight back. The rest of the population will capitulate.

          • ostiariusalpha

            That’s what I’m saying. You only need a small section of the military to be fully committed for an overthrow to turn into complete chaos. There’s no way to correct the N. Korean political and economic system without dissolving most of the military structure, and just like the former Iraqi military, they will violently resist that.

          • Colonel K

            Then they will die just like their Iraqi counterparts, while the vast majority of North Koreans will opt to live in a better world, one in which they are not constantly starving and terrorized.

          • ostiariusalpha

            Bravado is easy enough to say, but it doesn’t actually get much done. Real life isn’t an 80’s action movie where all the baddies get blown away by Arnold Schwarzenegger at the end. A lot of those Iraqi insurgents are alive and well, and doing just fine. They weren’t stopped because we killed them, it was because we basically bought them as a paid militia in our service for a while; all of which was unraveling even before ISIS took over the north. But let’s say it is possible to eventually just kill your way to victory, how many civilians and our soldiers are you willing to sacrifice to achieve that?

          • Colonel K

            I’m not sure I follow you logic about soldiers and civilians being killed in a future conflict. North Koreans have died by the millions already at the hands of their three “Dear Leaders”. While I would prefer to see the north implode rather than explode, one or the other must eventually happen. As for your comment about movies, it does not apply. I’m speaking from experience, not bravado. I do not take war lightly, nor do I encourage it. I do encourage increased pressure on the north, mainly economic, but also psychological. The nut job running that asylum knows he is toast if he starts a fight, but that doesn’t mean he won’t. After all, he is a nut, which makes him somewhat unpredictable. But unlike Iraq, Korea is one people separated by two governments. When reunification comes, it may well be ugly, but in time that too shall pass. With regard to Iraq, we won the initial fight quickly because the average Iraqi didn’t have the stomach for it, and Saddam only had one support base – his own tribal clan. We did not immediately lock down the munitions caches because our SECDEF wanted a lean fight (something I opposed), so we lacked the right mix of forces to deal with the immediate aftermath. That’s not surprising because during my six years at CENTCOM working on OPLANS and CONPLANS we gave very little thought to post-hostility operations. After the fall of Saddam, the new government we helped form was a top-down structure rather than a bottom-up design. By this I mean we encouraged a strong central government, which I believe was a mistake. I would have preferred more of a confederation where each region pretty
            much ran its own affairs, with a common defense being their main reason for cohesion. In the end, we did not disenfranchise them. That was done by their new government which wanted to exclude a significant minority as a form of punishment for past wrongs (kind of like our own reconstruction era). I also expected us to stay much longer than we did to provide some stability and assurances of support. I’m speaking in terms of decades, not years. That was not well received by senior leadership, but it became a reality as things turned violent again. I retired before Obama came to power, and it was he who changed all that with his cut and run mentality. Even with his bungling, there is still a chance the Iraqis will come out of the current mess with some semblance of self-rule and decent civil rights, and the fact they did most of the heavy lifting themselves will be more beneficial to them in the long run.

          • James Madison

            “By this I mean we encouraged a strong central government, which I believe was a mistake. I would have preferred more of a confederation where each region pretty
            much ran its own affairs”

            I tend to agree with this as a central gov’t in Iraq would have had to have been either Sunni or Shiite and would have never have worked in the long run UNLESS it degraded into a dictatorship in order to actually provide some semblance of control. Dictatorial atrocities should probably just be accepted in a region that has been in conflict and involved in atrocities for 4,000+ years.

            So a multi-gov’t/ multi-tribal regional approach to gov’t should work but the same problem remains. Sunni and Shiite sectarianism.

            You also still have Saudi funded ($5 billion USD per year) Sunni Wahhabism being spread throughout the region that directly or indirectly supports Jihad.

            And you have Iranian/Syrian funded Shiite interests backed by a re-surging Russia.

            Then you have the issue that we support the Saudi’s while they directly and indirectly fund the Sunni Wahhabist/Salafists that would like to do nothing else than behead every living American infidel on Youtube.

            Not to mention the various tribal complexities within both Sunni and Shiite branches or pan-Arab nationalism etc.

            This is what you call a grade-A cluster-f**k with no easy answers but you have to ask the following questions:

            – Is the region better or worse after decades of U.S. involved foreign policy?

            – Will the region be better or worse with continued U.S. involvement?

          • COL Bullseye

            Disrupt the supply of their one bowl of rice per day and the poor ba$tards will drop within a few days–no matter how loyal they are!

        • James Madison

          A far more valid comparison to NK, historically and ideologically, would be the Imperial Japanese of WWII. In both cases, you have a military and society that has complete and utter devotion to its leadership along with an honor culture that shames surrender and defeat.

          It’s a much different dynamic than the Soviet Union of the 90’s.

          Nothing that our military couldn’t handle but it has the potential to get extremely ugly the same as invading the Japanese mainland would have had the potential to get ugly (estimated 10 million Japanese would be killed by a U.S. invasion) had we not ended it early with the nuclear option.

          • COL Bullseye

            And a couple million of our boys would have died in an attempt to subdue the Japs on the main island. Thank God the Leftie Snowflakes weren’t around then to prevent Truman from dropping the bomb!

        • FulMetlJakit

          Blue jeans and Beatles “records” on x-ray film.
          And a bankruptcy military spending plan trying to match Reagan and his “…NO new taxes.”

      • FulMetlJakit

        Double plus good doublethink help relatives.

    • USA_11C

      Agreed. These parade are the military equivalent of Prosperity Village.

    • RealitiCzech

      Lolno, they aren’t going to desert based on that. Are you selfish enough to betray the only country and the only people you’ve ever known? Why would they be? They’ve been taught for a lifetime how their country is the best and the purest, and America is an evil oppressor.

      • Swarf

        And their media is so well controlled, there is no changing of minds.

        I think the start of a solution to NK is to airdrop a million small, satellite-connected devices with a web portal to www.

        Let them start discovering a world outside their borders on their own.

        • RealitiCzech

          If I were Minister of Propaganda, I’d do something like that – and create television stations to broadcast 24/7 porn, with a “Brought to you by the United States” message every couple of minutes to the area in question.

          • Tassiebush

            That isn’t really an impression you’d need to work hard on to facilitate. I’ve learned 95% of what I know about the States from p0rn and reality TV… 😉

          • Wow!

            If I was a NK and I was given reality tv as an example of American life, I may continue farming the rice fields. 😛

        • bernardg

          Provided the 99% of it’s population are technology literate. Which i highly doubt that.

          • Swarf

            Google was successful because it was so simple. They’ll pick it up pretty quick if all they have to do is type a word in a blank space and suddenly a clickable world appears.

            Don’t put too much stock in “literacy.”

      • jamezb

        If you view us as an evil oppressor, you might be on the wrong blog site.

        • RealitiCzech

          Reading comprehension. Try it sometime.

        • Peter Smith

          A site concerning firearms in a country that regulates every aspect of firearms (even though is is a supposed right and beyond regulation). Yeah, this is an oppressive country and we need to change it back to what it was intended to be.

      • AlDeLarge

        “They’ve been taught for a lifetime how their country is the best and the purest, and America is an evil oppressor.”

        Funny, that’s what’s being taught by schools and media here too.

        • Peter Smith

          Umm, yeah America is an oppressive country. We regulate the hell out of everything, tax everything (or try to), send our military around the world to invade countries and kill people, and we have the largest prison population on earth. Lot of problems with this country that need to be addressed.

          • AlDeLarge

            Thank you for your exemplification.

    • Tassiebush

      I doubt many of them would have the trust in foreign “enemies” to do such a thing. Even if an individual realized that their regime was crazy they don’t have any experience of the outside world to contrast that with. Definitely no reason they’d trust foreigners. As well as that the regime punishes family members of people deemed to be traitors.

    • Evan

      I once read a book about North Korean defectors (which unfortunately I do not recall the name of). It specifically mentioned one North Korean soldier who had somehow gotten his hands on an American made nail clipper. This guy was amazed at how exponentially better it was than the nail clippers available in North Korea, and reasoned that if Americans could make something so simple so much better, he’d hate to see how much better American weapons were than the junk he had, and so he defected. I understand that North Koreans are heavily brainwashed, and that most of them never get a glimpse of what the real world is like, but I imagine that, like the soldier in the book I read, many if not most of them would not tolerate their current state of being if they managed a small glimpse at reality.

      • if this were true, wouldnt we have dropped billions of .50c nail clippers into NK by now?

        • BillyOblivion

          Dude, do you know what the margin is on a .50c nail clipper v.s. a M4, much less all the other gadgets a soldier needs?

          SRSLY, if we wanted to take north korea just get that Dyson guy to design high power fans for food trucks, then back a bunch of them up to the DMZ facing north.

          Use loud speakers to tell them that they can get a free meal for a full magazine. A weeks worth of food for them and their family for their rifle, mags and bullets.

          Desert for Deserters even.

          For an artillery piece we’ll give them the whole truck AND teach them basic business accounting.

          You can’t eat an ICBM. I always say that.

          • I’ve stood guard on the DMZ, something similar has been happening for years.

        • Jon Carry

          Naw, all of our nail clippers are made in China anyway.

    • Ben Rogers

      Russian communist made good quality weapons. Their consumer goods were garbage, but they did put their money into weapons. I don’t know anything about NK’s weapons, but your statement does not hold true for all communists.

    • FulMetlJakit

      Don’t confuse this tyrannical puppet state run by a man-child with true communism.
      True communism can work, if most people weren’t ignorant, stupid and childish…

      So yeah, communism will never work. I applaud the idea of a sports star, their team owner, a teacher, a surgeon, a senator and a garbage man all being equally (and comfortably) compensated based on time and performance. Might as well let SkyNet take over though.

    • Steve_7

      I remember seeing a documentary, I think it was about Rwanda on the BBC and they walked into some town and interviewed a guy selling AKs. He was very knowledgeable about which ones worked the best, he said the E German ones were the best and charged the most for them, and the N Korean ones were the worst and wore out faster than any of the other makes he’d tried.

  • insertjjs

    Those “grenade launcher” barrels look awfully small. I would question if they were even 20mm

  • Friend of Tibet
  • USMC03Vet

    1990’s called and wants it’s land warrior gear back, North Korea.

    • Markius Fox

      If it actually works though…

      Also, a bolt action grenade launcher is simpler than a semi-auto, which is what held up the OICW iirc.

  • Disarmed in CA

    It looks like that giant wooden AK47 the Russians make you carry when you forget your rifle.

  • tazman66gt

    Looks like a bunch of plastic mockups.

    • Calavera

      Exactly like their cardboard parade “missiles,” with misshapen nose cones.

      • Y-man

        Please Google the SA-2 and you will see that the BOOSTERS are designed like that! The “bent” noses are designed exactly like that – to permit clean seperation.
        Please Google this – and check all images.

        • sineva

          Its actually the sa-5 but you are correct about the booster nose cones…..for all the good it does in a thread like this.

  • Bill

    They march funny.

  • Rock or Something

    What’s next in the North Korean dog and pony show? Their version of the HK G11 rifle?

  • B. Young

    decided to watch whole video, heres a run down:
    1.1-6 min. 2 generals in Mercedes riding around shouting things to cheer too.
    2.7-32 min. President(?) giving speech with various shots of staged parade, lots of clapping(just skip this).
    3.32-End. the actual parade(last 20 min or so is all the vehicles/missile launchers).
    4. Clap for your life!!

  • Cosmoline ‘n’ Coke

    It’s not a site. It’s a sight. Please proofread.

  • Cosmoline ‘n’ Coke

    Thanks for not posting my comment, cockfags.

  • valorius

    Bolt action grenade launcher. Nifty. If it’s real.

  • iksnilol

    I never understood the OICW. Doesn’t the rifle portion need a longer barrel and thus should be in the bullpup section? I mean, grenades don’t really need much barrel.

    • Bert

      I don’t think the concept of the oicw was to built a traditional grenade launcher, but to make a grenade rifle of sorts. The flatter shooting airburst grenades with adjustable timing on the fly (pardon the pun) necessitates a different weapon than the simple bloop tube. The whole reason the rifle is on there at all is for shorter engagement ranges than safe/advisable for the grenade rifle section. So with OICW type weapons, they are a reversal of the rifle/UBGL concept. In the end, the USA couldn’t get it to not suck. I hesitate to believe the DPRK could make it work. If the xm25 works out, I believe it will be the best executed variation of the grenade rifle, without the even more cumbersome rifle attachment.

      • Chris

        Bert ,if the smaller diameter grenades “flatter shooting” means they are faster than our 40mm (and they are at about 1000 fps ) then why use a rifle at all ? Wouldn’t it be possible to create a special non-explosive fmj ( Or even buck shot )for close quarters engagements …kind of like 12gauge slugs to use at bad breath distances , keep them in a different magazine ? Never liked the combo weapons (203s ) over the M79 !

        • Bert

          I agree with you, for the most part. I think the reason there isn’t really a buckshot or FMJ for the 20mm and 25mm is magazine size. The OICW had 6 round mags, and the XM25 has 4 rounds. It looks like a tacit admission that the concept isn’t necessarily that good of one that it can replace a rifleman completely.
          I never got to use the M79, but I did use it’s spiritual successor, the M320, and I prefer stand alones to under barrels for a few reasons, likely the same as you.

  • Anonymoose

    Now this I would like to see combined with an RPK-74 with the helix mag and used on a vehicle or tripod mount.

  • Calavera

    Epic camouflage fail on parade…but with the right nail color and eye shadow, fabulous! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/75b6030adb80daaedc6267472a00bc9d841b5ab6a3421758385f93653d7c9937.jpg

  • germanlion

    Am I the only one that thinks that those images have Photoshop written all over them?

  • Lee Enfield

    I want to give thanks to veterans of Korean war for keeping 60+ Million South Koreans from suffering a soul crushing gulag for 70+ years.

    As Dennis Prager says…
    The Right fights evil, the Left fights carbon emissions.
    Those who don’t fight evil, fight those that do.
    If you are kind to the cruel, you will be cruel to the kind,

  • forrest1985

    Is there any detailed infomation on North Korean small arms? I always thought they were limited to Type 56 clones and similar.

    • Scott P

      They essentially copied the Soviets with their own factory markings and adopted some guns outside of their Soviet/Chinese sphere of influence like the CZ-75 as well as designed their own weapons like a 7.62×39 Bren-looking light machine gun.

  • BrandonAKsALot

    I’d be amazed if anything they produce actually works. I’ve seen the workmanship on the AK parts they actually make and it’s frightening. Makes Albanian stuff look like a master craftsmanship.

    • Requiescat in pace

      How did you met any NK part?

      • BrandonAKsALot

        When you’re around the Kalashnikov world long enough, these things show up. There are more NK AKs around than you’d think. No clue how they got here.

    • Allan

      I have to disagree with you the type 63 sks and thier version of the tt-33 and thier ak are very well made and finished.

      • BrandonAKsALot

        They also sourced many of their parts from China and Russia back then. Majority of the stuff they actually produce is very crude. Even their AK magazines are very sloppily made.

  • If these are for real, I wonder how can such a poor, undeveloped nation produce something that looks so advanced (though the weapon or at least parts of it may be imported)?

  • Sledgecrowbar

    It’s cute how they think there will be a land-based war. I think if, and I don’t think we will, but if the US attacked them, it would be the kind of bombing run that could best be described as like turning on the shower except instead of water droplets it was bombs.

    Free OBO: country, slightly smoking, no inhabitants.

    Sorry if this is interpreted as being political. It irritates me every time I see even an airsoft gun on display there that cost any amount of money that could have been used to buy food instead. And at this point, I think it’s becoming more and more sensible to wonder if they are all airsoft guns.

    • Peter Smith

      What the f—- have we been fighting in the Middle East for 15 years!

  • lowell houser

    So how much do we think these things weight? 15-20 pounds?

    • Chris

      The better to mitigate recoil …these guys are kinda small framed…lol !

  • Raginzerker

    Supreme leader design gun himself #thank

  • BillyOblivion

    I bet it works about as well as their ICBMs.

  • Markius Fox

    I am curious and I want to know more.
    Hell, I’d visit the DPRK just to explore the helical and quad-stack magazines.

  • KrisRedbeard

    What a monstrosity.

  • LazyReader

    If those third world dirt eaters can build a working OICW, why cant we?

  • Henrik Bergdahl

    That is a mosin nagant on top of an AK with some plastic shit over it.

  • Kenneth Wetzel

    Either that is a very big rifle or some awfully little people.

    • Andrea Goldstein

      That’s just what I was going to say. That weapon is either HUGE or those soldiers are Lilliputians…

  • Niguana

    omg it’s a joke, look at it… an AK mated to a primitive GL LOL even their small arms are just some childish intimidation technique, pathetic AF

  • Jones2112

    Those poor starving uneducated bastids get to lug that big heavy contraption around along with the ammo and the rest of their gear…LOL

  • zipper

    “Our great leader has assured us of the vast superiority of DPRK mighty army of national patriots. We will sneak-up on you imperialist swine and annihilate you!”

  • Kurt Hargarten

    *sight*

  • Paulo Romero

    Well it looks like a dressed up Ak74 to me with a bolt action large calibre launcher stuck on top , some fancy plastic overstock and a Buck Rogers toy sight. Highly unlikely that anything but the rifle works. That’s fine by me as long as one of them empties a whole hi-cap of 5.45mm up Trumps ass.

  • 1inidaho

    Gosh, what does that thing weigh?

  • philippes

    Watching that video makes one think: Why didn’t we drop a MOAB on the center of Pyongyang during the parade? Problem solved.

  • Eric B.

    The North Koreans are SO heavily indoctrinated from birth that those soldiers might put up a good fight. BUT… Their families likely live such poverty-stricken lives that they may well harbor resentment against their “Dear Leader”.
    More likely in a war the Korean general staff would assassinate Kim Jong Un at the first opportunity. That fat brat has made a LOT of enemies among Korea’s elite. If anybody needs a good ass-kickin’ it’s him. Tie him to an anti-aircraft cannon and fire it off, like he did to his uncle. I can’t think of a fate more just for him.

  • COL Bullseye

    My first thought was a flashback to all the old newsreels I’ve seen since I was a child, of the huge rallies in Nuremberg with tens of thousands of goose-stepping SS and Brownshirts in their kepis and flared tin-pot helmets. Thank GOD these little nazis have neither the intelligence nor the technology to do what Hitlary–sorry, I mean Hitler–was able to do.

  • Keme Lochesh

    Uncle kim look handsome and cute at the same time.