I stumbled across this oddity. It is a Glock 21 with an odd looking muzzle brake and an H&K styled vertical grip typically seen on an MP5K. While I have seen some people try to add a vertical grip onto a Glock before, this one is different. It appears there is a screw that is acting as the bar to keep the MP5K grip onto the Glock 21. Does anyone recognize the muzzle brake? In the bottom left corner it mentions a website yourprops.com/user/Matsuo which makes me think that this might not be a real firearm and possibly airsoft.

 



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  • Xtorin O’hern

    this + .22 TCM conversion + giggle switch = very fun time

    • noob

      Don’t forget the happy stick. In 22tcm9r and an integrated vfg light, it could be a very viable pdw.

  • clampdown

    Looks cool. Is a forward grip with no shoulder stock covered with an SBR stamp, or is such verboten all around?

    • Zundfolge

      A pistol with an additional vertical fore grip is an “AOW” … so yeah, you have to register it under the NFA and pay the tax (I believe the tax on AOW is $5 to transfer, $200 to manufacture … so if this was built by a SOT they could charge you a fiver to transfer, if you want to bolt the fore end onto your Glock its a $200 tax so might as well register it as an SBR so you can put a stock on it too)

      • That requirement is debatable. So far there are three cases involving the ATF going after vertical grips on pistols. Of those the ATF has only won once, and that case involved a guilty as sin criminal trying to get off on a technicality.

        That other two cases involving almost exclusively firearms laws, the ATF lost.

        • Zundfolge

          Well that’s all fine and good as an academic exercise … facing felony charges in court that you’re not 100% guaranteed to beat may be an outside chance, but its not one I’d gladly take.

      • Christian Hedegaard-Schou

        Depends on the state though.

        In CA for example, AOW’s are fine, but SBR’s are not allowed. So you COULD do this in CA and pay the $200 to manufacture an AOW, but you would be denied if you tried to register it as an SBR.

        • Zundfolge

          Yeah, but if you’re living in CA you’re better off spending the money on a U-Haul :p

          • Longhaired Redneck

            As a former resident of the state of California (left in 1993), l want to say that your comment about that crap hole is absolutely the best l have ever heard! Thank you very much.

          • ePoch 270

            What is BMWCCA?

          • Longhaired Redneck

            Zundfolge is the title of the monthly magazine of the BMW Car Club of America (BMWCCA).

          • Pumpkin King XXIII

            Funny thing is so many people think the same way. A buddy of mine got relocated to Modesto, he hated it and moved back to Atlanta.
            The rental for the u-haul to leave California was 3 times more than to was to move there.

  • b0x3r0ck

    I’ve never really understood the role of a SMG since a pistol can do the same thing.

    • Drew Remington

      Well, if it has a stock I can get first or second round impacts at 100-200 yards way more consistently. They provide a more stable shooting position which, in turn, increases my accuracy as a shooter.

    • El Duderino

      SMGs with good stocks (like the MP5 fixed stock model) are very controllable on full auto. There are guys who can put a full mag in a fist sized hole at 25m all day long. A short burst is a bit like a shotgun, plus you have the flexibility of engaging targets well outside of shotgun range.

      Machine pistols are strictly close range affairs and yes, the jury is still out vs. a good “normal” pistol in competent hands. Though, if someone offered me a G18 with a drum mag or happy stick I wouldn’t say no…

      • Bradley

        People have been making auto versions of pistols for over 100 years. There’s probably a good reason that none have been widely used. That doesn’t mean they can’t be fun as hell though.

    • Bradley

      I’m not sure how you think a sub gun does the same thing as a pistol. In any case they made more sense when they were developed than they do now. At the time your choices were pretty much a handgun or full power battle rifle. Sub guns were meant to bridge the gap especially for support troops. With the assault rifle becoming common they pretty much became obsolete for military use.

    • JT303

      Pistols are generally more concealable and tend to weigh less and have a smaller footprint, e.g. Glock 17 vs Mp5. The SMG role seems to have been supplanted, yes, but more by the PDW concept than anything else.

  • Edeco

    I think the rail on a Glock is too floppy. I’m a fan, but slow motion video of Glocks firing not pretty :S With a steel frame gun it would be sweet.

    • Even a little pressure on a rail mounted light makes the Glock frame flex like a wet noodle

  • TheNotoriousIUD

    I feel like this is stupid.

  • Bradley

    That appears to be a movie prop website.

    • AMX

      Indeed it is.
      And this particular prop is described “I created this for a local movie producction but it was never used.”

      *Probably* not built around a functional Glock, having real firearms on set seems like it would invite legal and insurance issues…

      • Nicholas C

        Not true. ISS weapon props have guns converted for shooting blanks all the time. But there is a propsmaster making sure they don’t go anywhere.

      • John

        Tell that to Brandon Lee.

        *sad*

  • Gotta be airsoft– there’s no Glock Hognose goin’ on.

  • Andrew Dubya

    SBR, no?

    • TheChunkNorris

      AOW

  • John

    Looks like we have a winner in the “Make a Glock even Uglier” contest!

  • Renegade

    I hate glocks and I want one of these.

  • Jay Abramson

    If that’s airsoft somebody PLEASE tell me where to get one. Glock doesn’t license its name or likeness so I haven’t been able to get an airsoft G19. Want to use it in indoor training where I can’t use BB, pellet or the real deal.

    Closest I’ve seen is the ISSC M22. Which is close…..

    • LGonDISQUS

      Check HK airsoft manufacturers. I went nuts when I found you could make a functioning FMP9 with airsoft components at one point.

      • Jay Abramson

        Thanks! I’ll take a look

  • derfelcadarn

    Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should. Whay possible purpose could this serve ?

  • ozzallos .

    Yet again.

  • valorius

    Reminds me of the video of the dude shooting himself in the hand when the VFG on his glock comes off during mid-burst.

  • Tyler Browne

    Look at the frame, no Glock trademark. Definitely replica.

  • Jess

    I know of this propmaker and follow him on a few websites, his stuff tends to be very convincing and well made, non-functional props made from scratch. Though it could very well be made from an existing airsoft pistol.

  • Jonathan Thomas

    This appears to be Airsoft to me looking at the trigger shoe I cannot see the pins (that may be due to resolution), the locking block and trigger pins appear not to be correct either.

  • Matty Matsucorp

    I made this gun. Most of the assumptions are correct. Let me hit the high points.
    This was a very old project. At least 10-12 yrs old.
    It was intended as a static prop.
    The pic was a live weapon. Purely for the photo op. The finished version would have utilized a blank only prop.
    I used to work in partnership with a class3 mfg so NFA was not a concern.
    As mentioned the dust cover/rail mount on any glock is far too flimsy to use for a Foregrip.
    Through researching the project we realized that if a glock was to use a vfg the load could not be put on the rail it would have to be centered on the trigger guard to mitigate the leverage action of the vfg to prevent snapping the rail off.
    Thusly… the project was deemed silly.
    The grip was an aftermarket Hk pdw grip. The comp was made up on the fly.
    Small movie production companies are surly.
    The movie never happened. I never got paid for my work.
    I have no idea where those parts are now.