The SEAX Stand-Off Device for Glock

With handguns designed primarily for close(er) combat, it is perhaps difficult to reconcile that the common Browning tilting-block handgun is easily unsuitable for true contact fighting. The short recoil system commonly employed by many handguns is easily used against it to disable the handgun. Even movement of a fraction of an inch will put a Glock or similar in an out-of-battery condition, rendering it inoperable until the slide can go forward unimpeded.

Recognizing this, shooters and companies have been working on stand-off devices for handguns that allow the slide to go fully forward when pressed against an object. Surefire and similar weapon lights work great and Honor Defense builds this feature into their FIST frame, which basically extends forward of the slide.

In a similar thought, DARKHOUR Defense has developed and released their SEAX, an “exclusive stand off device for a Glock 19.” By mounting to the frame rail, it creates a shield that keeps an object from pushing the slide rearward. According to DARKHOUR, the 7075 aluminum attachment “mitigates recoil” and the “extra weight keeps the pistol more steady in the hand.” It further features a “textured face for compliance reasons.”

For those curious to add extreme close-quarters capabilities to their Glock 19, you can pick one up directly from DARKHOUR Defense on their website. Pricing is set at $109 for the SEAX. 



Nathan S.

One of TFB’s resident Jarheads, Nathan now works within the firearms industry. A consecutive Marine rifle and pistol expert, he enjoys local 3-gun, NFA, gunsmithing, MSR’s, & high-speed gear. Nathan has traveled to over 30 countries working with US DoD & foreign MoDs.

Nathan can be reached at Nathan.S@TheFirearmBlog.com

The above post is my opinion and does not reflect the views of any company or organization.


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  • Christopher Wallace

    uhhh

    • dootdootbeep

      Solution in search of a 1 in a million problem.

      • john huscio

        Like I said, LEOs would find it useful

        • guest

          LEO would be better served with a backup gun that has a contact shot capability. And considering the danger for self inflicted gunshot wounds or innocent bystanders getting hit by firing while grappling, a contact weapon like a sap or a blade might be an even better choice.

          • Dan

            So pull primary gun….oh crap too close hold on while I reholster and then draw superclose combat gun. Also you can stab yourself while wrestling with another person. The only solution is a wearable tazer. You are surrounded by a wire mesh and you activate it when you feel you’re about to get your a $$ beat. Sure you’d have to be insulated from it but those are minor details.

        • Nathan Alred

          LEO’s are already being taught the “braced contact shot” where you hold the slide in battery as you push forward. Wrap your off hand around the slide and frame and squeeze, and then punch in and pull the trigger. In a pinch, you can put the thumb of your shooting hand behind the slide and hold it in place. (OK, I was a little nervous about trying the thumb thing with a Glock 21, but it works.

      • So is the pistol for that matter…

  • Anonymoose

    “textured face for tactical meat-tenderizing”

    • TheNotoriousIUD

      Great, now im hungry.

  • TheNotoriousIUD
    • Nicks87

      It’s for punching fascists. 😉

      • Dougscamo

        Or leftists….though I can’t tell the difference between the two….

        • Rob in Katy

          Because there is none.

        • Budi Utomo

          Leftists favour state ownership of property and production and the elimination of non secular society. Fascists favour corporate ownership of production (means big kickbacks through extorting “private” companies), religion is tolerated when uncritical of government, as is private property (dependent on owners acceptance of leadership). Lived through a dictatorship. It was the best time of my country’s history- low cost of living, state scholarships for academic and cultural achievers, high development indices, security and safety was superb, no political unrest (huge foreign investment).

          Democracy is over-rated.

          • retrocon

            You hint around one point of fascism, yes, they prefer corporate control, but the government has absolute control of the corporation. Fascism, when it happens, is the halfway route to socialism. Once a democracy installs a dictator, as it almost always does, the dictator, on promises of a socialist utopia, takes it only as far as is needed in government control to be able stay in power. Dictatorships today are learning to allow enough private ownership and profit to develop an economy. But, they are still dictatorships.

            Good post, I just like to make sure that people stop associating fascism with the right. No, the furthest “right” side of the spectrum is actually anarchy. The furthest left is fascism.

  • Rick O’Shay

    But how often do you shoot with a muzzle pressed right against your target?

    • TheNotoriousIUD

      Whats the application? Shooting through doors?
      Tell me this isnt for human skulls lol

      • john huscio

        On the ground with a bigger stronger guy trying to beat your brains in……this gives you the ability to press the gun into their body and fire (repeatedly) without fear of it going out of battery……seems like it would hold practical value for LEOs too.

        • mrsatyre

          Why would it be more common for LE than cc’ers? Seems to me that non cops get attacked far more often than cops due to the simple facts that there are way more non cops than cops, and bad guys typically don’t target cops for violent assaults—those happen to cops when they actively seek out confrontations, i.e. going out to arrest someone, or responding to a crime in process (both fairly rare occurrences in the span of most cops’ careers).

          • john huscio

            LEOs are far more likely to encounter situations where a standoff device would prove useful on the whole because of the nature of their job.

          • Anonymoose

            However I could see them using this to “get compliance” out of suspects…with their finger on the trigger…then BLAMMO! LAWSUIT! Using tasers and blunt objects for compliance is bad enough.

          • guest

            You have to live in a very sleepy village for your statement to be true.

          • Kyle

            Statistically most police officers spend the majority of the career seeing non-violent service calls and what not. Very few ever fire their weapon. There are only a few really high crime areas where that isn’t the norm.

          • john huscio

            The difference being that I, as a concealed carrier, aren’t comming into frequent contact with the dregs of humanity. Cops generally are, and as such, there are far more opportunities for the kind of scenario that a standoff device would be useful in to occur.

        • TheNotoriousIUD

          Fair enough but I’ve never seen a cop with one of these.

        • Giolli Joker

          Poor Oberyn Martell would have made good use of it…

        • Art out West

          Revolver
          This is one of the main reasons I usually carry a revolver.

        • ChiptheBarber

          I always use the guy’s fist strokes, brutally knocking me back for a split second as “trigger-press-time”. Use the Force, Luke.

    • Giolli Joker

      Well, I suppose you can’t plan how you will need to use your gun in a self defense scenario… it may be that you need to pll a shot while wrestling with your assailant….

    • Beju

      If you have to ask, you don’t work for a drug cartel.

      • Cory C

        Hahahaha

    • RSG

      George Zimmerman.

  • USMC03Vet

    This is perfect for all those times I’m at the range headshotting pumpkins at point blank range and need more than 1 shot.

  • Bigbigpoopi
  • CommonSense23

    A certain special operations group had a instructor who would demonstrate how easy it to disable a pistol by pushing it slightly back. He ended up shooting a hole thru his hand. This is such a overrated problem.

    • SPQR9

      This

      • Norm Glitz

        It seemed to work for Jackie Chan in at least one movie. That’s like real life, right?

        • SPQR9

          Did he field strip a SIG pistol in opponent’s hand by flipping the takedown lever in a film or am I thinking someone else?

          • Rusty S.

            Beretta 92. In rush hour.

          • AD

            Jet Li took apart Mel Gibson’s Beretta in Lethal Weapon… I want to say 4?

  • Mmmtacos

    I don’t think it’s a bad idea to have a stand-off device if it doesn’t add much weight, but having to unscrew that every time you field strip your Glock has to be annoying. Not to mention you are now basically limited to custom made kydex or leather holsters.

    • BravoSeven

      You said it…. Holsters. Do you just carry it in your hand everywhere you go?

  • Disarmed in CA

    Punch ’em with the barrel and pull back a bit before pressing the trigger. Would an extended guide rod work for this situation?

  • MrBrassporkchop

    What would be more likely? Needing a standoff device or needing a flashlight?

    • Squirrel

      exactly what I thought.

    • noob

      The CZ version has a accessory rail for stacking on a flashlight, or i guess you could make an infinite stack of muzzle shields. Actually what would happen if they shaped the back of the shield so it acted as a compensator for people who don’t have threaded barrels. That could actually help in shooting at greater than contact distance

      • William Elliott

        quit reading my mind…

        • noob

          Fun tidbit – the PPSh-41 extends the ventilated handguard past the muzzle so the last two vent holes could act as a muzzle break.

          I’ve never seen one in the flesh so i don’t know how good of a brake it was. Or how safe of a handguard either

    • Nicks87

      I really think the only thing on the end of a pistol should be a flashlight and/or laser.

  • 22winmag

    I stopped reading at $109.

    • Brian Farmer

      So you read the whole thing?

      • wetcorps

        To be fair I tend to look for the MSRP before reading the article.

  • SPQR9

    First World Problems.

  • Now you too can cosplay as the worst monster-hunting team in Japan!

    • Mazryonh

      It’s not as strange as the following example. Behold, the most tacticool standoff device EVER! So tacticool, it’s even got a threaded barrel! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1359e5f6f8c763025be8e6a6cb807d7e2304be59b5e3f7305af791fdecb45864.jpg

      • I like the way he appears to be using the slide release as a sight.

        • Mazryonh

          This was clearly angled to make the gun look more intimidating. But what do I know? The Japanese dev team behind this game title, Binary Domain, apparently thought that live-fire guns eject casings that are crimped like blanks.

          And of course, combining a threaded barrel with a stand-off device on a handgun makes the stand-off device more or less pointless. Notice how the muzzle protrudes slightly past the spikes.

          • AD

            That looks like a Desert Eagle, which has a fixed barrel, so the whole thing is pretty much pointless anyway.

            BTW I quite enjoyed Binary Domain.

      • William Elliott

        on a Desert Eagle???
        You don’t need a stand off device, the muzzle doesn’t move, its gas operated, not recoil operated.

  • Southpaw89

    Seems like you’ve now created the opportunity for a piece of debris to get between the slide and the device causing its own malfunction.

  • steve

    pff you dont have this problem if you carry a revolver….they never jam

    • SGT Fish

      False, but true that they don’t have this particular issue

      • Anonymoose

        When revolvers jam they REALLY JAM and need to be taken to a gunsmith and handled delicately if there are still live rounds in the cylinder. This problem is especially prevalent in super-lightweight revolvers like LCRs and S&W Scandium-frames and 9mm, .40, and .45ACP revolvers.

    • Dan

      What if i grab your cylinder? Up next spikes for revolver cylinders!!!! You and me Steve we’ll make millions!

    • Echo5Charlie

      You’ve obviously never had a squib where the bullet is between the cylinder and forcing cone…

  • EC

    If the muzzle is meant for use as a “compliance tool”, that would mean that you would be sweeping a person with your muzzle to gain “compliance”.

    Pretty sure that violates at least one of the basic firearm safety rules.

    • Dan

      Sweeping the person you already have at gun point. That rule went out the window when you drew your weapon.

    • Calavera

      Violates my first safety rule of a gunfight: don’t be there.

  • Edeco

    Well, I like this kind better than the frame appendage on Honor Defence Shields since it covers the whole front of the gun. I mean, if you believe muzzle-poking a target is something to plan for and accept the added length, might as well cover the whole tip.

    One needn’t have it on for practice I guess but I wonder if one did, how much crud it would collect.

  • FulMetlJakit

    Since “seax” originally means a long knife, the absence of an included folding SKS style bayonet is disappointing.
    Poor ninja-neering.

  • Klaus Von Schmitto

    If I need this someone is getting stabbed.

    • Calavera

      Yup. Distance is your friend.

  • MarcoPolo

    The officer’s gun in the Michael Brown shooting (Fergusen) didn’t fire on his first shot because it was out of battery.

  • LGonDISQUS

    Honor Guard will see you in court next week.

  • Mazryonh

    Great, now you also need studded floorplates for all your magazines, so you can strike more effectively from another direction while still holding onto your gun. One of the best ways to make sense offenders surrender in close contact:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/467cd9a55ac4429872a2d62101fbb1b1072986480e0ec6eeef52f18ff31bce4c.jpg

  • Chuck E

    Should have Pictinny on the bottom so I can mount my light, laser, and pistol bayonet.

  • spiff1

    The devise defeats the single hand charging capabilities. ..

  • Hyasuma

    G Code need to make a AIWB holster for this

  • Budi Utomo

    I do not see the need for such a silly accessory. It does not prevent over-hanging clothing entangling in the slide- a major cause of slide-fouling.. The Military, globally, no mater whether US-, UK or Russian doctrine based, practice extreme close quarters encounters using stock, often very old weapons. What would be ideal would be a barrel-shroud.
    PS I have designed and manufactured a Beretta slide shroud and attempted a patented. About 1000+ people had the same idea. A costly exercise in humility.

  • pismopal

    Close contact can take the weapon out of battery? I have a cure for that problem…it is called a “trigger”.

  • scaatylobo

    NOT a believer in a ‘flashlight’ on the FRONT OF A GUN = that points at people .

    So this is ‘striking me ‘ as a pretty good tool in CQB = REAL CQB.
    One reason I have mentioned the wheel gun for real close up combat.

  • David Harmon

    If they are that close, you’d be better off with a baton or a blade.