KRAL ARMS AK Shotguns, AR Shotguns, Bullpups

As I finish up the review of my Comrade Arms TAK47 12 gauge AK-based shotgun, I find myself wanting something I had never considered before – a magazine-fed scattergun. Much thanks to H.H. for the tip on Turkish arms manufacturer Kral Arms, who produce several versions of AK, AR bullpup (sometimes in combination with each other) shotguns with unique aesthetics.

I can’t tell if I need one of these sci-fi bullpups immediately or I am quietly begging to never see them again. However, these compact shotguns are both uniquely styled and have some features like optics and accessory rails that could actually be useful.

Alongside the bullpups are some more “traditionally-styled” guns. Ok, traditional is a bit of a stretch. Take a look below.

 



KRAL Arms XPS

  • AERO TECHNOLOGY MATERIAL
    Material technologies with high standards used in aerospace and defense industry.
  • HQ SYNHETIC OR TURKISH WALNUT STOCK
    Sector-specific walnut trees / abs and polymer armament equipment of the eastern region of Turkey.
  • SOFT RUBBER PAD
    Extra soft rubberized and polyurethane systems that reduce the impact of recoil energy on the shoulder to a minimum and are highly resistant to impact, crushing and tearing.
  • BIPOD & TRIPOD & PIKATINI ADAPTER
    Includes mounting equipment developed for universal fixing equipment.
    Pikatini: Only for synthetic models.

 

Kral Arms

 


KRAL ARMS is Turkey’s one of the leading companies in hunting, shooting and sporting products.

KRAL ARMS produces shotguns, air rifles and blank pistols in 18.000 square meter production facilities with more than 250 people. We use the highest technology with manual labor to offer you the best quality.The production within the border of KRAL includes, machining of wood, machining of metal parts, injection molding, metal injection, mold making, welding, engraving, barrel drilling & barrel manufacturing, laser marking, laser engraving on wood & metal parts, camouflage coating, assembly, quality assurance testing, test shooting, etc.

KRAL ARMS is an export oriented factory and exports 99,5% of its products to more than 40 countries around the world. KRAL ARMS products with their very good quality and competitive prices receive a very well acceptance all around the world. KRAL ARMS is enough able to and has background to produce any type gun in house.

Our mission is to product the better to cheaper. Like for the last 25 years , as long as the world exists, we will continue to serve for you.


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  • TheNotoriousIUD

    So did you shoot it or what?

  • JumpIf NotZero

    For this episode of “How Stupid Can You Make A Siaga Look”…

  • ItalianAmerican

    Despite how much I despise today’s Turkey and its government, these are good looking weapons.

  • DanGoodShot

    Price check, isle 9.

  • DSmith512

    Check Tristar KRX shotgun, made by KRAL Arms. Costs about $450. I love mine. Fast, reliable, mild recoil.

    • Pete – TFB Writer

      I like it! Where’d you get it?

  • GUNxSPECTRE

    It’s like one of the guns in the video games that the kids are playin’! The Halos or the Call of Duties!

    • Sheeple shepherd

      Act like you don’t play shooters.. oh look at me I’m old guys!

    • I’m not gonna lie, if a company out there decided to make real-life replicas of famous game and movie weapons, they would make absolutely stupendous amounts of money, not to mention garner a whole new generation of shooters attention.

      I know that I would personally pay quite a bit for a real, firing replica of the Aliens Pulse Rifle, the Blade Runner pistol, Han Solo’s blaster, etc.

      Current ‘real’ guns being produced by everyone and their family today are just…boring. Simple plodding clones of the same thing, always utilitarian, nothing with any imagination or creativity. It says something when the neatest guns out there right now are either Airsoft, extremely rare one-offs made by fans of movie guns, the vastly unpopular weirdos like the Chiappa Rhino, or are as-of-yet-vaporware like the Hudson H9 and the SilencerCo integrally suppressed pistol.

      Tangentially, for as much crap as 1911 and Wheelgun shooters take about their choice of handguns, I have to give them at least that they are choosing a gun with some aesthetically pleasing aspects as much as they are for utility, just like the guys that buy and refurbish old cars and trucks because they look neat rather than offer a bunch of utility like your modern Econobox sedans.

  • Cal.Bar

    just needs the “nerf” emblem on the side, and you are ready for “battle”

  • The Punisher

    Someone should teach them how flip up sights work…

  • SP mclaughlin

    Wonder if they sell those carry handles separately.

    • Cal S.

      Right?!

  • Cal S.

    It looks so beautiful!

  • Harry’s Holsters

    This should sell really well to the gamers and software engineers if they can get this in front of that market. I hope they advertise directly to that market.

  • I had the chance to handle the Bull-pup KRAL “Compact” early on this month at IWA in Germany.

    Looks like a solidly built gun, and is definitely lighter, shorter and less bulky than the UNG-12.

    Plus it feeds through SAIGA-12 shotgun magazines, which makes it more convenient.

    With the risk of an all-out ban on modern sporting firearms in Europe now avoided for good, I am looking forward for the chance to buy one if well-priced.

    • TDog

      Were you able to test out any of the drum mags available to the Saiga-12 on the KRAL or just the regular stick mags?

      • I had the chance to HANDLE the KRAL. Not to fire it.

        • TDog

          Arrgh!

          Darn them for not letting you shoot it!

          • Yeah, blasting one away in Pavillion 1 of the Nuremberg Fair Center would have been an experience.

          • TDog

            It would have been totally epic.

    • William Elliott

      did you get a look at those iron sight “carry handles”? Are those metal, polymer, or composite [IE metal reinforced polymer]
      I could see just those being handy for mounting on railed carbines of various sorts that don’t come with an optic [or irons], or home builds.

      • Solid polymer. They’re made for the gun they’re made for… and they’re basically a gimmick. They’re cool, but the KRAL could do without it. They’re mounted on a Picatinny rail, so the first thing you want to do once you get yours is to remove it and mount a set of folding sights and a red dot sight.

        • William Elliott

          Well, better than selling it with no irons at all i guess…

  • Cymond

    Price? or a link?

    I’d really like to collect some of the weird new shotguns that have hit the market in the last few years, but the truth is that my small collection is already bigger than I need, bigger than I use. I need to collect less and shoot more.

    Also, what’s a “Pikatini”? Some kind of electric yellow Pokemon cocktail?

  • TangledThorns

    Bullpup shotguns is one segment of the firearm community that is lacking, we need moar!

  • iksnilol

    They also make neato airguns.

  • Duray

    Virtually all pump and semi auto shotguns are “magazine fed.” Because words mean things!

    • Twilight sparkle

      Virtually all… But not all 😀 https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/403bd5b63eb6dce6558287cd23eab85ecbd734ff0586c67061841f58a44627ad.jpg
      Actually on second thought a cylinder is still technically a magazine depending on which definition you use

      • LCON

        ah the Armsel Striker streetsweeper seen in every B grade action movie made post 1993 because reasons.

    • TDog

      There’s always that guy who wants to be extra special technical, huh?

      Within the vernacular, it is perfectly acceptable to say “magazine” when is referring to a removable ammunition-holding device, typically a metal or polymer box with some sort of spring loading mechanism contain within.

      When it comes to shotguns, it is generally taken as given that the magazine will be referred to as the tube unless it’s a break-open design, in which case the absence of a magazine is assumed.

      • A.WChuck

        Deja Vu…I swear I read this exact exchange months ago.

  • FOC Ewe

    That Turkish wood variant is perfect for the mantle.

  • pun&gun

    Those bullpups actually look pretty good.

  • E

    … for what? stupidly low capacity, completly uneeded recoil for its energy due to KE=1/2m x v² while p=m x v, +.308 even outperforms slugs
    Poor performance for its price.

    • Wow!

      It was made for Eastern European gun laws which generally outlaws handgun and rifle cartridges, but allow shotgun calibers.

  • SGM

    This company flat out SGM Tactical magazine design, I was at IWA having a chat with the company about it. I feel bad if any U.S. company imports them because SGM will not like the fact they stole the magazine design and infringed on their patents.

  • DanGoodShot

    Too bad they don’t sell the stock separately as a bullpup conversation kit. I really want to convert my s12 to a bullpup config. But I just don’t like whats on the market today. The Kushnapup looks like cheap plastic and to starwars for me. The others all look like they came out of someones garage.

    • Wow!

      This may also not be to your tastes, but in case it is: A couple years ago I did a conversion for someone on an 74 similar to a Russian Groza. Basically just find someone who does AK builds (or do it yourself). Take some 1/8 sheet metal and weld or fold it into a box like buttstock, rivet or weld it along with the rear trunnion. I folded a special rectangular handguard for that project out of 16guage sheet metal, but you probably could find an aluminum quad rail bulky enough to work. Attach a grip, place a trigger and link this trigger to the original trigger by drilling a hole in both and making an adjustable link bar using two lengths of 1/8″ threaded rod and compatible barrel nut (and appropriate nut and crush washer on each end). Cut off the trigger guard and the interface of the trigger on the original trigger assembly. From here you can do a variety of things to mask the extra barrel length if you are not doing SBR, welding an AR handguard adapter to the end of the quadrail or something.

      Personally, I don’t like bullpups unless they are ambidextrous. The original Groza is very simple and cheap to make for Russia though, so it makes sense for their purposes as a backup weapon for non-infantry.

      • DanGoodShot

        Hey, thanx for the ideas! I really do appreciate it. You’ve given me somethin’ to chew on for a bit. I’ll probably go that route seeing as there just isn’t anything on the market that tickles my fancy and I do like working on my guns.
        I really can’t say if I like bullpups as I’ve never had one or shot one. They do look cool. The reason I want to do it with my S12 is because, man, that thing is long! Even with the trigger back in its original non-neutered position. If I bull it, it’ll be close in length to my AR. I like the thought of that.
        I put a lot of work into this particular s12 to ensure extremely reliable performance no matter what it’s diet consists of. 4 years, a ton of wal mart specials and not one gun related malf. I had a great foundation to start with. I was one of the lucky ones who got an s12 that ran wal mart bird out of the box in stock config.

        • Wow!

          Wither you love or hate bullpups greatly depends on your circumstances. No matter which setup you get, unless you put a 30/40mm launcher on the front, you will be off balance as more weight will be to the rear. Pragmatically, having weight closer to the apex allows an individual to swing the rifle more easily, but it is equivalent to putting the sensitivity too high on FPS shooter games. For some people whose entire career was built around front heavy guns like the M16 and the Mossberg 500, some cannot get used to the feeling. It is like when semi autos were introduced to revolver shooters. Of course, it is nothing one cannot train and get good at.

          A trigger on a bullpup can be nearly as good as a regular rifle trigger, but it will never be better than any equivalent trigger. You can make the triggers a light as necessary, but light triggers are not necessarily good triggers, but triggers without creep and with short reset. I suggest the adjustable trigger link (the barrel nut) for this reason to reduce the creep as much as humanly possible. This is not a standard design in bullpups, but I think I should be.

          The most critical aspect in a bullpup are the fire controls. You want a forward mounted nonreciprocating charging handle, AR style mag release and a non-invasive ejection for left handed shooters (I think being able to shoot from either shoulder is critically important for any serious combative rifle as there are many real world situations where you are holding an adversary from cover, and if you have right hand cover but can only shoot right handed, you will essentially be forced to stand completely exposed). The only bullpup I have ever seen that fits the bill best is the Desert Tech MDR and the Magpul PDW. Both of which are not available. Building your own bullpup is not that difficult, even from scratch, but since you are converting a rifle (a now rare one at that), I would suggest to use bolts as much as possible and weld only on replaceable parts like dustcovers and handguards in case you don’t like the outcome. The AK’s/Saiga ejection pattern is what I think will be your biggest difficulty. A homemade cheek riser spot welded to the dust cover can serve as deflectors which can help you.

          I’m not sure about your budget, but if you want to test the waters, you can buy a 10/22 bullpup stock conversion (muzzlelite) which is cheap, or even cheaper you can buy an Airsoft AEG of whatever rifle you like and play around with it. Even a hi point carbine with that new bullpup stock can be a nice option. Worst case scenario, you have a fun toy to play with if you choose to abandon the project due to not meeting your desired function.

  • BrandonAKsALot

    I thought it looked cool until I saw it was just a shell on a Saiga 12/clone. I just can’t respect bullpup chassis or whatever you want to call them. I like to see a dedicated design and not something retro-fitted that’s bulky and heavy. That’s just me.

    • roguetechie

      I kinda know what you mean.

  • Some Rabbit

    Never having handled one loaded, I’m guessing that getting the butt of the bullpup shotgun up to your should requires some effort because all the weight is behind the grip.

  • Omerli

    Nicely done TFB, thanks

  • uisconfruzed

    Pricing?
    Trigger quality on the bull pups?
    Reliability?

  • DistalRadius

    The XPS models quad rail looks a lot like a Halo/Chaos rail for Saiga-12 mounted backwards.

  • Rico Balagbag

    This made me nut

  • bobsolla

    It’s Picatinney,as in Picatinney,New Jersey where the system was developed.

  • Franivelius

    Whats the price of the AK style shotguns? Couldn’t find it on their website. This look awesome. Here in Argentina is almost impossible to legaly own a semi-auto rifle with a detachable magazine but shotguns are ok so I would love to import some of theese.