How Compensators Help You Shoot Faster

Shooting fast can be a science, but the basic principles are the same no matter what pistol you are using. In this episode of TFB TV Patrick takes his Glock 19 out to the range with a shot timer to see what effect a compensator from KKM Precision has on how fast he is able to shoot. We all know that compensators help you shoot faster by taming the recoil, but exactly how much? Check the video out to see what a compensator on your gun can do for your shooting.

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Patrick R

Patrick is a Senior Writer for The Firearm Blog and works in the shooting sports industry. He is an avid recreational shooter and a verified gun nerd. With a lifelong passion for shooting, he has a love for all types of firearms, especially handguns and the AR-15 platform. Patrick may be contacted at [email protected].

The above post is my opinion and does not reflect the views of any company or organization.


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  • NPB

    Awesome!

    Thank you Patrick!

    I am digging the Roland Special effort, and it’s appreciated for you to run this on the clock.

    An argument that I’ve heard is that the G19 plus KKM is faster and flatter than a G34. Would you have any comments about this?

    FWIW, I have a G19 with magwell & comp over at ATEi getting an RMR and trigger guard undercut at the moment, so the timing of your series simply could not be any better for me.

    Thanks again!

    • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

      I would agree that the G19 with a KKM comp is faster and flatter than a G34.

    • There is a reason this setup is endorsed by many.

    • raz-0

      I keep on seeing people SAYING it is faster than a G34. I don’t see anyone proving it. It’s one of the questions I have. I also have the question of if the g34 top end with magnaporting will perform better.

      Glock comps come in two flavors that I have met, screw on and set screw. Both of which I have seen work themselves loose in matches. The set screw variety usually resulting in baffle strikes at some point.

  • gunsandrockets

    I’m a believer. Glock 23C > Glock 23

    • Sam

      What even is a .40 in 2017 even a thing for?

      • gunsandrockets

        Oh good grief, you’re one of Those People?

        • Sam

          What do you mean? One of those people that’s looked at ballistic data and has come to the conclusion everyone else has, that .40 provides nothing better and a few things worse than 9mm?

          • gunsandrockets

            Yep, one of those 9mm cultists. How annoying.

            Sorry to bring you the bad news, but there is no such thing as the 9mm Fairy.

          • FulMetlJakit

            Agreed but price, availability and tangible results. Otherwise….
            Where’s my .357 Sig/10mm Kel-tec 2000 v2?

          • gunsandrockets

            Funny. The Hornady Critical Defense in .380 and 9mm look awfully similar to me!

            http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/self-defense-ammo-ballistic-tests/#380ACP

          • Sam

            Lol oh man, ok I guess.

          • n0truscotsman

            “the conclusion that 9mm does nothing better and a few things worse than .380 ACP”

            I would really like to see some convincing arguments for that

  • Wang Chung Tonight

    Works for big blasters too. I run this 45 super in USPSA open for fun. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f65cef6459f4cb1307038b5c6e3921124c03b154fefdef315fe708e8ede922f9.jpg

  • xerodown

    I’m am also a believer. I whipped out my credit card and had the comp and barrel for a GLOCK 17 in the shopping cart and then I decided to call KKM because I already own a GLOCK 19 barrel that is threaded from them for a suppressor. I wanted to know if I could move the compensator back and forth between the barrels. I come to find out it’s a totally different thread pitch for the comp and you would not be able to put a suppressor on the barrel. Credit card was quickly put back in the wallet.

    Clearly does not apply to everyone but why would I buy a threaded barrel that I can’t run a suppressor on. Fail on KKM’s part, if it was threaded 1/2-28 it would have multi-use. Don’t get me wrong, I love my current KKM barrel but who ever made that decision at KKM failed their longtime customers.

    • KKM was just following industry norms. It is a rare comp that uses 1/2-28 threads. And typically the comps that use 1/2-28 threads are junk designed by people who have no business designing comps.

      • Coarse threads are nice when you want to quickly add or remove a muzzle device. However, you really don’t need (or want) to remove a compensator quickly.

    • DonDrapersAcidTrip

      Despite most people acting like the reverse a compensator is actually practical and usable everyday, I don’t really see what a suppressor on a handgun is good for but being neat for a couple seconds at the range and I’d rather have a specific dedicated gun for either compensating or suppressing anyway.

      • iksnilol

        Flexibility bruh.

        Besides, never assassinated someone, have you?

        • DonDrapersAcidTrip

          What does the assassins guild recommend for holstering the things

          • iksnilol

            Shoulder holster, we rockin’ it fresh like dem cocaine cowboys, baby!

      • gordon

        Fire your gun in your bedroom without a suppressor or hearing protection and get back to us when/if the ringing stops. A suppressor is useful on a nightstand.

        • DonDrapersAcidTrip

          The thundering noise of a comp’d 9mm. If this one in a million scenario of firing a gun in my bedroom happens I’m more worried about winning a gun fight than a little hearing loss. Guess I should ask nicely that anyone wanting to shoot me does it with something quiet in a large open space too.

          This is like people who say weaver stance is better because you’re positioning less of yourself as a target. it’s some theorycrafting nonsense.

          • gordon

            At one in a million why even have a gun in your bedroom then? Your money is more likely to save your life with a health club membership or extra tests at the doctors office.

          • DonDrapersAcidTrip

            You tell me you’re the one whose sole interest in firearms is how practical you find them against assassins in your bedroom

          • gordon

            Gee, where did I say that?

          • DonDrapersAcidTrip

            Gee, I don’t know, every post you’ve made acting like firearm quietness takes priority over actually not dying. What do you think a 5.56 would sound like indoors? when this maddog killer comes to get you in the night are you going to pass over a rifle for a .32 acp because your ears take priority

          • gordon

            That would presuppose the suppressors reduce the effectiveness of a handgun. I don’t think that is so, but could be wrong, especially in very close combat. My point, is that if I am going to live through the unlikely event of a home invasion, I’d prefer to have my hearing intact afterward. Also if I miss my first shot and the assailant ducks out of view I will still have my hearing to perhaps detect where they are and what they are doing. It is money spent that could be spent to perhaps more efficient use elsewhere, but I also simply like having such devices. My bedroom rifle is a 10.5 AR in .338 Specter with a 10.5″ .338 Lapua suppressor (way to big for this use in my opinion) on it. I can get my handgun into my hands faster though. The 300gr bullets in that rifle expand to 1.2″ at subsonic speeds (I know because I tested them in ballistic gel), so it may not be as quickly incapacitating as a full velocity .223, it is still pretty good. I have guns mostly because I simply like guns, not just because I anticipate an attack. I posit that this conversation is mostly about opinion, and we apparently have somewhat different opinions about what will serve us best. We may both be right. Who knows?

          • iksnilol

            4 point? Those are dangerous, you need a 5 point harness.

      • xerodown

        I take it you don’t own any suppressors?

    • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

      It isn’t designed to be used with a suppressor. If that is what you are after pick up a threaded barrel and a Texas Black Rifle Company Micro Comp.

      • xerodown

        Thanks

    • raz-0

      When your thread locking goop inevitably fails, and your comp starts unscrewing itself, you will prefer a finer thread pitch.

  • gusto

    I dislike compensators for sport

    what is the point? part shooting sports is handling the recoil and if it is the nature of the sport have a quick follow up shot with the reduced muzzleflip

    If a calibre doesn’t behave like they do in “regular” guns why use it at all?

    now for hunting and long range rifle shooting I get it, but not for pistolsports

    If the point is to reduce recoil why not go down in calibre?

    If the sport is about going as fast as possible around the track you’d mind aswell shoot 22lr

    I have shot a IPSC type race gun with a comp and reddot, it was quite incredible for sure, dot hardly moved

    • Open is designed to shoot as fast as possible, thus comps became the norm. There are plenty of divisions in sport shooting that ban comps.

    • Major Tom

      “If the point is to reduce recoil why not go down in calibre?

      If the sport is about going as fast as possible around the track you’d mind aswell shoot 22lr”

      No, no, no. You shoot 2.7mm Kolibri. Lighter recoil than a .22LR and you can carry like 3 times as much.

  • Edeco

    I’m not a muzzle comp denier, but my thang is if there’s to be more length I’d rather more solid barrel, recoil spring and slide.

    Admittedly this can’t be done as an add on, and probably won’t provide the ultimate minimum flip at a given length, which a competition shooter will value. But to me it’s a better use of space.

    • Bill

      At the very least, get the front sight out there to increase the sight radius.

      • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

        Sight radius will be a non-issue after the slide is back with a RMR mounted.

  • Sledgecrowbar

    My prized piece is a LW G17L (now 0% Glock parts). I have a box of parts I’ve replaced over the years, some doubles and triples of each piece in aftermarket improved parts, and it’s as nice as a Glock can be without paying for some tactical derp company to take a stock Glock and give it a slide tattoo and stipple and quadruple the price.

    I only recently added an LW compensator, it had a 6-1/2″ threaded barrel from the start, and even with all the other stuff, like the extra-long uncaptured tungsten guide rod weighing down the front, only with this compensator has it completely lost all muzzle rise. You could shoot it now one-handed and it would barely push straight back into your hand. I’m curious to swap the comp onto my new LW G19 to see how effective it is, I will probably pick up a second comp for it even though it adds so much to the compact size.

    Ported guns (at least to me) have the stigma of giving up muzzle velocity but they really are so much nicer to shoot. I think a comp gives up nothing but length and fixes the one issue with shooting a handgun truly well, meaning quickly and accurately.

    • DonDrapersAcidTrip

      It’s not 300 for a comp it’s 300 for a comp and barrel.

      • Sledgecrowbar

        I stand corrected. I’ve never paid $100 for a comp, because there are comps at least as effective out there for half or less, but I can see where the visual style is appealing enough to be worth it. The look of a comp is a very individual taste thing. As long as they work, the right one is worth it.

        • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

          What comp is that cheap and still effective AND durable?

          • Yes, the less expensive models are typically aluminum. The KKM is nitrided stainless steel.

  • ExMachina1

    The compensated guns I’ve been around have been at best obnoxiously loud and at worst have driven me off the firing line. I get that they are faster in competition and maybe gentler on new shooter, but what beyond that? Are compensated pistols really an advantage in any sort of a CQB situation where they have the potential deafen neighboring friendlies? I still kind of want one, but only for the fun factor.

    • Colonel K

      Quite right about the range. Just use a suppressor instead and you’ll never offend another shooter, plus you’ll have an even better comp gun.

  • DonDrapersAcidTrip

    I ordered a barrel and comp from kkm at the end of january and haven’t heard from them since.

    • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

      Give them a call.

  • Sam

    All these Roland Special shenanigans are driving me up a wall. I don’t think I’ve ever seen this kind of fanboy dedication and commitment by such a large group of people.

    • Cymond

      Then I guess you’re new to the gun community.
      Glock vs 1911
      AR-15 vs AK-47
      9mm vs .45ACP

      • Sam

        Everything you listed has been discussion points for years and years and years.

        This whole “Roland Special” thing is what, two years old, max?

        • It provides tangible positive results for people who already have a foundation of skills in shooting.

          Why not bring this up on P&S?

          • Sam

            Oh I have. You’ve actually responded to a question or two I’d brought up.

            I know you have a vested interest in defending the platform, but taking a step back and looking at it objectively, you have to admit there are quite a few people that are compiling one of these strictly as a status symbol and/or to “virtue signal” their tactical knowledge upon the gun industry, right?

            I’m not critiquing the gun. I’m sure it performs admirably. I’m critiquing the bandwagoners that are tripping over themselves to show off their builds as fast as possible on IG to get kudos from people they don’t even know (which happens in any industry… the RS is just the gun industry’s most recent entry).

          • I have no control over what other people do. It is silly that some people don’t understand that and hold us responsible.

            It isn’t an entry level system.

            The only vested interest I have is the simple fact that it works and it works well.

        • Cymond

          I’m just saying that “fanboy dedication and commitment by such a large group of people” is pretty much the status quo in the gun world.

  • Pete Sheppard

    Another issue I have with comps/porting is where the redirected (hot) gas, powder residue and muzzle blast go when firing from retention; holding the gun close or against your body… :/

    • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

      That has been tested at length with this comp and has been found to be a non issue. The guys that are running this setup (Roland Special) are serious shooters that spend a ton of time sending bullets down range.

      • Pete Sheppard

        Thanks!

  • JumpIf NotZero

    Hey, at 4:51 where you wave a clearly loaded gun in a non-safe direction and up near your face because you seem to talk within your hands… YIKES man.

    • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

      I don’t know what you think you see, but the muzzle came nowhere near an unsafe direction or pointed at my face.

      • JumpIf NotZero

        Ok, I mean, if the response “but angles” and “you don’t know what you saw”, I honestly don’t think that’s an argument you need to use if things are clearly good.

        Nothing in a JerryM or hicock or anyone’s video is it ever even a question to be what you should shoot for. But OKAY, I mean, I wouldn’t want to get into an argument where there were other examples, just passing friendly advice!

  • mmyers08

    I am tired of these videos watching Patrick go ‘ting ting ting tong ting ting” as he blows through a hundred bucks worth of ammo. I don’t think that a steel run is(and this complaint doesn’t really apply to this video) is the measure of the quality of a firearm.

    How about some more measured and scientific reviews? Put the thing on a rest and shoot some groups. Show us how accurate the pistol is. Slow down. How about some marksmanship?

  • Seth Hill

    “How Compensators Help You Shoot Faster”

    Great, now the antis will be claiming that compensators will turn a gun into a machine gun. Title should read “How Compensators Help You Get Back on Target Faster” or “How Compensators Help You Shoot More Efficiently”.

    I’m thinking that maybe a Hi-Point with a compensator would be the ultimate self defense gun; You can shoot with it and you can use it to beat the snot out of them.