Shooting a Full Auto MP5 From A Cessna

Mark Serbu, his daughter and Vlogger Dan go up in what looks like a Cessna, fly out somewhere over the ocean and shoot a full auto MP5 out of the plane.

I am not that well versed with FAA laws but generally you cannot discharge a firearm from an airplane. However if Mark flew the plane outside of the US an into International waters that may be ok. Anyone who has a pilot’s license can you chime in?

I dabbled in flying Cessnas back when I was younger but never pursued getting my pilot’s license. This looks like fun but there is a potential for danger. As long as they were all being responsible and safe I do not see the issue.

This could be akin to the marketing campaign SlencerCo had when they launched the Maxim 9 with their Maxim Vice video. They charted a boat and had people shoot in international waters.

Watching the video above, I think Mark should get a collapsible stock or folding stock. This would making shooting it in such a confined area easier and it would fit in the backpack without having the muzzle stick out.

 

For example, here is my MP5 with a folding brace. It fits inside my Vanquest IBEX 20L backpack just fine.



Nicholas C

Co-Founder of KRISSTALK forums, an owner’s support group and all things KRISS Vector related. Nick found his passion through competitive shooting while living in NY. He participates in USPSA and 3Gun. He loves all things that shoots and flashlights. Really really bright flashlights.

Any questions please email him at nicholas.c@staff.thefirearmblog.com


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  • Anonymoose

    If you take an SBR or MG outside of US waters have fun bringing it back in. Videotaping yourself committing felonies is not good for one’s health. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ea8094e4b51d173e95a300cbf4d611233a925fd5f274e1572d354dd79f894fcc.jpg

  • hikerguy

    It did look like an ideal day to shoot a full auto MP5 anywhere. That includes from a plane.

    • Sunshine_Shooter

      MP5s on full auto are only fun on days that end in ‘Y’.

      • hikerguy

        Agreed, LOL.

  • Rnasser Rnasser

    Shooting at nothing is not my idea of fun… even if it is from a plane.
    But hey, if you think this is stupid, just wait fot his next video “shooting flamthrowers in my front yard”…

    • Kirk Newsted

      That actually sounds like fun.

  • EdgyTrumpet

    Nice try pistol brace merchant.

    • Bucho4Prez

      “Do not bring your evil here”
      -Swamp Thing

    • Wow!

      What is with the hate on pistol braces?

  • Texas-Roll-Over

    This video and this post is dumb.

    • TheNotoriousIUD

      #dontneedareason
      #proudtobeanamerican

      • Nicholas C

        America F&#@ Yeah!

        • TheNotoriousIUD

          I did this as a kid in my fathers plane out in far West Texas.

          • Stephen Paraski

            My uncle had a Cessna and we used to throw beer cans at people from 1500′.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Wow, not only is that a di-k move but it sounds suspiciously like attempted murder.

    • RocketScientist

      That should be ARE, not is. As in “You and your face ARE dumb”

  • Major Tom

    Did they lag the target to hit it from the air? You gotta lag the target when shooting from a moving vehicle. (Provided said target is stationary.)

    • Dr. Longfellow Buchenrad

      Im sure they did. It would have been near impossible to hit the ocean otherwise…

  • Jgdgjk

    Why do you have a pistol brace on a MP5?

    • Dr. Longfellow Buchenrad

      Why not?

      Do you shoot a Sub gun more accurately without a 3rd point of contact?

      • Lawbob

        Do you shoot a sub gun more accurately w a pistol brace, or a stock?

        • Dr. Longfellow Buchenrad

          Stock > Brace > Nothing

      • Jgdgik

        I don’t shoot sub-guns, because I’m not Scrooge McDuck rich. But if I did, it would have a stock.

    • jcitizen

      Probably because the registration form doesn’t say it has a shoulder stock – I wouldn’t doubt that modifying an NFA weapon is just as complicated as modifying a formerly non-NFA weapon. I remember in the good old days, when you applied to make an NFA weapon, you always put every gizmo you could possible do on the form, and that included multi-caliber, just in case. I hear it is a LOT harder to do that now.

  • TheNotoriousIUD
  • Jeff

    Who told the FAA that the “F” stands for firearms?

  • Will

    Looks like a Cessna 172(?).
    It’s a great thing he didn’t hit that wing brace.

    • MattCFII

      Definitely a 172 since it has no manifold pressure/prop control and is a 4 seat Cessna. I agree with the “brace” (actually more called a wing strut in that case). Actually also need to be careful of the prop to the front and the wheel if shooting to the rear. I was actually afraid at first of the angle he was going to take out of the right seat was going to be into the prop arc. The gun/prop synchronizer was a pretty important invention for aerial gunnery as even this video shows lol.

  • Lawbob

    Where Is it generally illegal to shoot from an airplane?

    Like hog hunting?

    • Nicholas C

      From my father who is a retired Captain of Delta Airlines. But touche. Good point.

    • John

      From all the gun laws I’m reading, everywhere in the United States. Apparently nobody allows it. Allows for senseless poaching and terrorism and such.

  • Havok

    You must of missed where the FAA has cleared him of any wrong doing.

  • burningwar

    I just wonder what the implications are of taking a firearm into international territory, then taking a firearm into the US, from international territory.

    • ostiariusalpha

      There’s no law against it.

      • Stephen Paraski

        I fish with a FFL who brings a M14 out of New Port Richey and we go out 100 miles or more.

    • Sunshine_Shooter

      Considering that international territory has no governing body (hence the term ‘international’), there are zero implications.

    • Yeah I wonder too, no restrictions on bringing firearms into the USA from international territory, or anywhere else for that matter?

    • Christian Hedegaard-Schou

      Inside 200 miles you’re still in a “special economic zone” where you are technically outside of the US, but still inside the US when it comes to certain laws. So it wouldn’t likely count as “importing” into the US from international waters.

      It’s an interesting question though. At what point would leaving with the US with a firearm become exporting and at what point would entering the US with one become importing?

      • ostiariusalpha

        International waters are mostly irrelevant. Just don’t reenter with a weapon you didn’t take out with you in the first place, and don’t port at states that ban the firearm you are carrying. It’s fairly simple.

  • john huscio

    Eh, i liked it.

  • Mrninjatoes

    Dumb. You just wanted to show off your pistol MP5.

  • Danger Close

    I think it would be legal under 14CFR 91.15: No pilot in command of a civil aircraft may allow any object to be dropped from that aircraft in flight that creates a hazard to persons or property. However, this section does not prohibit the dropping of any object if reasonable precautions are taken to avoid injury or damage to persons or property.

    • MattCFII

      91.15 would be my take too. The FAA is mum on firearms in aircraft, most of that comes down to state laws and TSA regs for secured airlines. I quite often carry when flying general aviation airplanes.

  • Just say’n

    What’s up with Mark using the “F” word around his own young daughter? I’d seriously be ashamed.

    • TennTexan

      His daughter is an adult woman, and an avid shooter herself. Lighten up, Francis…

    • Christian Hedegaard-Schou

      You know, some adults recognize profanity as what it really is: Just more words.

      If you find shame in certain words, that’s on you, not the person talking.

      • Stephen Paraski

        F*ck is a amazing word. Depending on context it is noun, verb, adjective, a all around useful word.

        • Just say’n

          Call me old fashioned, but not around ladies. Especially not around your own young daughter. The English language has plenty of other expressions appropriate for the situation. Cursing shows lack of intellect.

      • .45

        No, it’s a proven fact that delicate feminine ears cannot handle hearing certain dirty words and if they do they become “women of low virtue.” I’m afraid it is only a matter of time before she becomes a drug addled hooker and dies of a heroin overdose…

        (If you can’t read the sarcasm dripping off this post, you need help.)

    • MattCFII

      I’d be more ashamed of all the hearing damage without headsets unless she was wearing foamies. Between my shooting and flying without proper ear protection I have over 50 year old ears in a late 30s head.

      • .45

        My sister dragged me to a concert a few days ago and my ears still have a buzzing noise going on. Thought the guns would get me first, but no, heavy metal got me.

  • .45

    Good thing they didn’t reenact that scene from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. “Son, they got us.”

    • SP mclaughlin

      Me every time in the biplane rear gunners in Battlefield 1 lol

      • .45

        Can you shoot your own tail off? (Never played the game, but I’d like to.)

  • Don Ward

    Door Gunner: Git some! Git some! Git some, yeah, yeah, yeah! Anyone who runs, is a VC. Anyone who stands still, is a well-disciplined VC! You guys oughta do a story about me sometime!
    Private Joker: Why should we do a story about you?
    Door Gunner: ‘Cuz I’m so f****’ good! I done got me 157 dead g***s killed. Plus 50 water buffalo, too! Them’s all confirmed!
    Private Joker: Any women or children?
    Door Gunner: Sometimes!
    Private Joker: How can you shoot women or children?
    Door Gunner: Easy! Ya just don’t lead ’em so much! Ain’t war hell?

  • gunsandrockets

    I can’t believe they went to all that trouble and expense and didn’t shoot tracer! For all we can tell, they only shot blank rounds.

  • MarcoPolo

    This is the closest reg that I remember seeing:
    Sec. 91.15 — Dropping objects.

    No pilot in command of a civil aircraft may allow any object to be dropped from that aircraft in flight that creates a hazard to persons or property. However, this section does not prohibit the dropping of any object if reasonable precautions are taken to avoid injury or damage to persons or property.

    • JDC

      Yes, and you do NOT want to have the FAA on your case on this. Had a buddy in flight school who used to fly out of a private strip in Arizona when he flew civilian. He and his 2 buddies used to practice dropping flower bombs (just like some hot air competitions)…1# sacks of flowers onto a bullseye well away from the runway, but on airport property. They had permission to do so from the airport owner, and always cleared the area both on the ground and once airborne.

      FAA rep saw them and tried to try them for a felony and suspend their licenses. Fortunately, after they “lawyered up” they proved nobody was hazarded.and the FAA was embarrassed enough into letting them off with a warning.

      Like the BATF, highly dependent upon the agent you get, and whether they use common sense or not.

      Personally, in this case, regardless of the legal aspects, I’d be afraid of the empty cartridges rattling around in the cockpit.

    • supergun

      liberals are exceptions.

  • Wang Chung Tonight

    “This incident has only gone on to completely weaponize the ocean as we know it. The animals are arming them selves because of this act of war! I know what’s going on in the water!” – U.S. Representative Maxine Waters https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cc6c03063bdb39e3fcd1a65b3c48edb519c43bb0091008937b07e6f1fc73fee8.jpg

    • jcitizen

      HA! I wouldn’t doubt at all if some space cadet congressman/woman would say just that!

  • Bill

    There are targets that are the outlines of outboard motors that USCG aerial marksmen practice on, for disabling go-fast boats hauling drugs. Motto: one shot, one motor.

    Over land, shooting at big bags of lime or flour gives a nice effect.

  • MOUE

    Freedom

  • Beju
  • Harry’s Holsters

    Don’t drop it!

  • rc_vic_kerman

    Seems to me that once you landed back at an airport which is Federal property, by the way, you would be in violation of Federal Law(s) regarding the possession of a full auto weapon and would be inline for some prison time! That prison time could have also started when you boarded the aircraft with the full auto weapon and you would have had Homeland Security asking you a few question(s) about your terrorism intent while they drove you to prison! Not a smart idea in the least!

    • jcitizen

      I had a police science instructor who caught some guff for just taking his back up pistol with him on a private airport – so that wasn’t even any kind of federal property issue. I think he let him off with a warning. This was a LONG time ago, so I’m way behind in the rules for now.

      • MattCFII

        If it was a true “private” airport is would be owned by an individual. These days they are rarely public, normally it is a person that has enough land to lay out their own grass strip but can also be a housing addition with their own runway.

        You probably are actually talking about a public General Aviation airport that is usually owned by local government. No federal laws are against having a firearm there (same reason you can check baggage your guns at an airport). Depending on state/local law, there may or may not be a restriction. The airport I fly the most out has a lot of fun deals and “hey check out my new gun” and I can think of at least two FFL pilots. A lot of GA airports are fun places to hang out.

        • jcitizen

          If I remember correctly it was one of those rich “flying farmers” who owned the airport, but he may have been leasing to the city also. It could also simply be an LEO that overstepped his boundaries too. My teacher was a retired police officer and by the laws of my state was authorized to carry concealed without a permit. Now a days, everyone in this state who has a clean record, no longer requires a permit to carry at all. CCW not required. I love my state! =)

    • MattCFII

      The vast majority of public airports are municipality owned, even those served by airlines. You could say the tower is potentially federal property if the airport has one, but everything isn’t.

  • rc_vic_kerman

    Now that I have watched the video I think that the Feds are already on their way to your house’s and will arrest all that participated and probably confiscate the aircraft and ban the pilot from ever flying again. How can you obvious GEDites really be that dumb?

  • Jeff Heeszel

    I was told the gun shot from an aircraft can not be fixed to the plane. Othais from C&Rsenal is researching shooting an MG from a plane.

  • Steven Kaspar

    Bunch of idiots giving the media something else to use against gun owners.

    • Ben Pottinger

      Do we read and watch the same stuff? Anything you do with a firearm, including just owning it is “giving the media something to use against gun owners”. Stop with the pathetic victim nonsense and realize that nothing you do will ever make your hobby or rights seem viable in thr eyes of against the anti-gunners. Instead just take the fight to them like we have been for the past decade or so, because it’s working.

  • Old Vet

    Isn’t there some limitations for the movement of NFA weapons from one locale to another?? Just asking, don’t own any, but curious?

    • jcitizen

      As I remember it, you had to send a travel plan to the BATF a certain time period before leaving. Then you had to carry your form with you in case you got stopped by LEO anywhere. That was a long time ago though. Seems like I’ve since read a new twix came out governing this, so I don’t know what the rules are anymore. However it was in connection to borders of states and countries, and I have no idea what simply going off shore would entail. I doubt that would be any kind of violation, as long as you didn’t disembark to another country, or land in another state.

  • simmoc04

    Nice fj patch on your pack.

  • ChiptheBarber

    That’s the worst soundtrack music I think I’ve ever heard.

  • Mike
    • jcitizen

      Sounds like the plan to me! HA!

    • Miguel Raton

      Demonstration of why they’re Forward Air OBSERVERS, since the minimum size for any reasonable f/x on target for that approach is the venerable Gooney Bird. Those brushhoppers just can’t carry enough ammo to make the effort worthwhile… 😉

  • CavScout

    Was wondering what that guy does with all his spare time, as he doesn’t seem to manufacture any of the firearms he designs and takes paid reservations for.