‘Real Deal’ B&T APC9SD In The Wild

If you’ve been reading my posts for any length of time (bless you) you may get the idea that I am becoming a bit of an B&T fanboy. Well, you’re not far off. There is something about the smooth cuts, parallel lines and precision machining that make me long for every gun B&T will import into the U.S. And I recently started my Swiss-made journey with an APC9 pistol – a TFB review is in process,

But, as much as I love suppressors, I have yet to consider a B&T can for any of my hosts for one main reason: price. They are too expensive for my ‘H&K taste, Glock budget’ lifestyle. A few months ago I had a long phone conversation with B&T CEO Tim Nickler and the price of silencers came up.

Nickler explained that B&T suppressors are sold at current prices because of raw material sourcing that currently comes from Europe. Eventually this may change to U.S. sourced raw materials and we may see retail prices decline. But for now, my imaginary TP9 will have to be outfitted with an imaginary B&T suppressor.

But, I digress…

TFB reader Yves (@guns_in_switzerland on Instagram) was nice enough to share these pictures of his stunning select fire APC9SD. Much like the MP5SD, the APC’s barrel is ported to drop high velocity ammo to subsonic levels. It’s a beautiful example of B&T engineering.

Thank you, Yves.


The APC9 SD is first choice, not only for normal police duty, but also for SWAT units. Reliable, accurate, compact, ambidextrous and due to the integrated suppressor very quiet, the APC9 SD is the perfect submachine gun for all police and military tasks. Thanks to special ports in front of the chamber, also supersonic ammunition can be used. These cartridges will be reduced to subsonic speed by the ports.

APC9SD Features

  • Calibre: 9 x 19 mm
  • System: Close bolt blow back system
  • Operation: Full auto
  • Rate of fire: 1000 rpm
  • Length min/max: 556 mm / 768 mm
  • Width: 67 mm (incl. chargin handle)
  • Height: 293 mm (incl. 30 round magazine and Aimpoint)
  • Barrel Length: 146 mm
  • Twist Rate: 250 mm / 10″
  • Weight: 3.1 kg (inkl. 30-Schuss Magazin und Visierung)
  • Stock Pull: 340 mm
  • Primary Sighting System: Aimpoint Micro TL
  • Secondary Sighting System: Flip up emergency sight
  • Sight length: 239 mm
  • NAR Rails: 1 + 3
  • Charging handle: Interchangeable
  • Magazines: 15, 20, 25 and 30 rounds, translucent Polymer magazines
  • Handling: Ambidextrous
  • Shoulder stock: Foldable
  • Training System: Simunition, Manipulation
  • Also included: One 15 round magazine, two 30 round magazines, QD front grip, cleaning kit, sling, case, manual

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  • Bigbigpoopi

    Lemme guess: $79,665 because Swiss.

  • TheNotoriousIUD

    B&T seems to be driving hard at the HK market.

    • SignalFromTheRim

      They like to go hard in the paint.

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        Well, if the BT goes after the Hk they could leak it to the VC then end up MIA and we’ll all be put in KP.

        • Kurt Akemann

          +1 for the “Good Morning, Vietnam!” reference.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Love that movie.
            Robin WIlliams

  • aweds1

    So why does all their precision engineering result in plastic magazines?

    • john huscio

      Because most of the best mags in the world (glock mags, sg550 mags, steyr AUG mags) are plastic at least in large part.

      • also clear mags allow the quick checking of available rounds – especially important in a buzzgun.

      • int19h

        AK74 mags also. And orange “bakelite” AKM ones.

        If it’s good for AK…

  • Cymond

    I’ve never understood the desire to drop 115gr ammo to subsonic for serious work.

    • The_Champ

      A lot of specialized LE and military used that sort of setup for many many years. It may be because there wasn’t really anything better then, but I wouldn’t write it off as totally ineffective.

    • Sam

      When the MP5SD was designed, factory subsonic 9mm was neither reliable nor common, especially for forces having to work from government supply lines. Reducing 115g 9mm to subsonic velocities basically gives you the energy of a .380. The MP5SD’s limitations are well known, but a quiet .380 bullet hose worked well inside rooms, etc.

      Now that 147g subsonic ammo is both plentiful and reliable, the whole “reduce NATO loads to subsonic velocities” doesn’t make a lot of sense.

  • BrandonAKsALot

    As soon as I saw the article, I knew it had to be his gun. He’s a cool guy with a fantastic collection.

  • A Fascist Corgi

    I should link this post to iksnilol. He actually responded to one of my comments to tell me that I was idiot for liking Swiss engineering.

  • FredXDerf

    B&T makes some sweet guns- but can anyone tell me why they put that little loop of paracord on the rear stock hinge!!?? Mine has that as does every B&T picture I see…what is it for?

    • FarmerB

      Sling attachment point.