Pistol Caliber Carbine Effective At Distance

Haley Strategic shows a pistol caliber SMG can get combat effective hits out to 300 yards. The 300 yard hits are a bit of a stretch but it can be done.

Here is a screen capture of his hits using a 25 yard zero. 50 yards is a couple inches high and the 100 yard hits are opening up but close to the 25 yard zero.


At 200 yards there is a 24″ drop in hits. James points out that those hits would be in the pelvic region assuming you did not adjust your POA. Which is still combat effective.

300 yards was a little bit different. With this particular gun and ammo combination, he had to hold over by about 10 feet to get hits on target.

Have any of our readers used a pistol caliber carbine out to distance?

Nicholas C

Co-Founder of KRISSTALK forums, an owner’s support group and all things KRISS Vector related. Nick found his passion through competitive shooting while living in NY. He participates in USPSA and 3Gun. He loves all things that shoots and flashlights. Really really bright flashlights.

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  • Scott Willbanks

    I’ve managed repeatable shots from my 8″ MPX at 200m with supers and subs

  • GordonTrenchard

    Geez a 10 foot hold over at 300

  • Aerindel Prime

    Yep. I like to shoot my CX4 9mm at long range. Its only about a 4-5 MOA gun but that still puts all the shots in a torso sized target out to 200 yards.