Fischer Development Suppressor for Glock 17 and 19  (Austria)

The desire to make gunfire silent is probably as old as the first pull of the trigger.

At IWA and EnforceTac, in the Pol-Tec booth, we found a very interesting solution from Fischer Development. They’re based in Austria, so it’s a safe bet that their suppressor fits the Glock 17 and 19 and – at least for the time being – no other brand.

The Fischer Development suppressor fits with just one click and you don’t have to make any changes to the Glock. It looks similar to some suppressors developed for shotguns.

The suppressor fits to the accessory rail of the Glock, so you don’t need a threaded barell.

You continue to use your normal sights, as this suppressor doesn’t build anything over the normal line-of-sight.

Exactly how the barrel can move during recoil and how good the level of suppression is was difficult to try out on an exhibition. One concern is that the Glock shoots into an “open” suppressor, instead of being threaded onto the barrel, which shouldn’t be beneficial if you’re trying to reduce noise.

This suppressor looks rather heavy, but if the stated weight of 350 grams it’s probably not so bad.

 

Translated from German:

SUPPRESSOR FD917

Wet and dry system for Glock guns

Now it has been possible to develop a silencer – suitable for Glock 17 – that combines all the advantages: Simple assembly with just one click, short, handy, highly precise.

Technical refinements down to the smallest detail are in this innovative silencer

LOWER RESET

Not dependent on ammunition

No disturbance due to contamination at the pulse generator or damage to the thread

OPTIMIZED DESIGN

Aim with standard rear sight and grain

No need to change the weapon

No change in the accuracy

MOUNTING | DEMONTAGE

Quick mounting directly to the picatinny rail on the handle (not bolted to the barrel)

NO EXTRA THREAD NEEDED

TECHNICAL INFORMATION

Weapon: Glock 17 9×19 mm

Quick assembly via picatinny rail

Length: 236 mm

Weapon supremacy: 165 mm

Bang reduction: 139.9 dbC L peak

Maintenance: 3000 shot

Height: 67 mm

Depth: 25 mm

Weight: 350 grams

Material: 6061 / T6

Surface: Harteloxal

Color: Black

Ammunition: For all munitions: Sub.- or Supersonic.

 

 

Update: The price is around € 660, about the same i Dollars.





Eric B

Ex-Arctic Ranger. Competitive practical shooter and hunter with an European focus. Always ready to increase my collection of modern semi-automatic firearms, optics and sound suppressors. Owning the night would be nice too.


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  • TVOrZ6dw

    Innovative idea- When will anybody test one in the wild?

  • Keiichi

    Neat. Looks like SiCo may have sparked some competition.

    • G

      It’s not a competitor to any American made sound suppressor because USA doesn’t allow imports or exports of sound suppressors.

  • Nicholas C

    I am concerned how they achieve a solid seal between the muzzle and suppressor. It cannot be great since the barrel moves and tilts during recoil. It all depends on the timing I suppose, However I feel that it would not be very quiet. Like shooting a suppressed revolver that is not a Nagant revolver.

    • EdgyTrumpet

      I think the seal between the barrel is the least of problems with this design. It mount to the plastic dustcover, so it probably has pretty big tolerances for the baffles as well, I doubt it would supress well even if the seal was perfect.

      • I was thinking the same thing. I’m sure Glock does not have an standard tolerance for the center line of bore to rail dimension and it will most likely even change a bit as they have to replace models as they wear out. This will require very large bore in the suppressor which will result in poor performance.

        • tallis

          the rail also warps over over time, just google glock pig nose.

      • Nicholas C

        I don’t think that will be an issue. Having used the Osprey 45 on 9mm Glocks as well as 9mm carbines, it suppresses very well.

        They could use a hole for a .45 caliber round. That would accommodate differences in tolerances.

      • Nicholas C

        I am more concerned about how narrow it is. Not a lot of volume for gas expansion. Compared to the Osprey 45. It is taller though so maybe that is how it makes up the difference in thickness.

      • Alan

        They use the PULSE GENERATOR on a base plate of prefabulated amulite to seal the barrel to the suppressor. This prevents side Fumbline of the spurving bearings.

        • RocketScientist

          Really? I had always thought they used six hydrocoptic marzlevanes, so fitted to the ambifacient lunar waneshaft that it effectively prevented side fumbling

          • koolhed

            All I saw was “Bang Reduction” and I was instantly hooked.

          • Steve Sparks

            All of these things may be true, but the baseplate of prefaumlated amulite will address all of the issues. It’s not cheap tho.

          • Lo Andy Kruth

            hahahaha

        • mazkact

          What about the reciprocating dingle arm ?

    • BattleshipGrey

      I applaud the effort though. If it works and is affordable, they’ve just made it a lot easier to jump into the suppressor market. Not having to upgrade sights or buy a threaded barrel would probably get more people interested if it’s just plug-and-play.

      • Nicholas C

        There are offset suppressors out there already. SiCo Osprey is the most well known. A threaded barrel is not exactly a difficult thing to purchase nor expensive. Unless you live in a state where threaded barrels are not allowed like Connecticut (depending on the pistol) or places like NY and CA.

        • BattleshipGrey

          I know it’s not hard to get a threaded barrel, but suppressing a pistol is an already costly affair. Add another $100-200 plus the $200 tax stamp plus the actual cost of the suppressor itself $200-800. Not to mention the hassle of all the paperwork and the wait. All to not have to wear ear plugs seems too much to most.

          • Ebby123

            ^^This.

        • kagami

          If you can’t have a threaded barrel you most definitely can’t have a suppressor anyways…thanks California.

          • sdelcegno

            Not true threaded barrels are now illegal on pistols in CT unless ore 1994. Suppressors are fully legal in CT.

        • rdsii64

          If you live in a state where threaded barrels are not allowed, you probably can’t buy a suppressor there either.

    • ThePUNisher

      Have you learned nothing from the tactical twinkie suppressor? You don’t need a solid contact with the suppressor after the bullet has left the crown. When the barrel begins to unlock/cam from the slide, as per the design, it’s done so that a sufficient delay allows the chamber pressures to dissipate before opening/extracting (hence muzzle pressures are mostly gone also).

      Granted, while in battery, we don’t know what kind of gaps are there or how tight everything fits up. The concept is sound if it’s done right. Get it? Sound….

      • Rick O’Shay

        So you’re saying even a twinkie could do the same thing this product does?

        • BryanS

          @nicholaschen:disqus I think we need to twinkie a barrel. Bring a camera next time you come over to the shop.

    • iksnilol

      It isn’t very quiet, 139.99 db peak (AKA 140 AKA not hearing safe).

    • Ebby123

      Perhaps, but I think for a long time Suppressors have been such a premium “black Ops ninja” kind of item that no one has really asked – how much suppression do you really need for general purpose use?

      Most guns would benefit enormously from a moderate reduction in sound – and chasing those last few decibels of sound reduction increases the cost, size, and weight of suppressors significantly.

  • mrpotatocat

    Dude, I think Id rather have this than that SilencerCo Maximus thingy.

    • Sid Kias

      I dunno if I’d take this over the Maxim-9. My only real concerns would be the performance of the suppressor as well as how difficult it’d be to adjust to having a light or laser a few cm lower. It does kinda bother me, but I’d still love to see a side-by-side between the two.

      • mrpotatocat

        I just don’t seeing the Maxim being all that great. I have no reason tho think that but I just do. Seems very hyped up, almost too much. Doesn’t mean I wont buy one…

        • Sid Kias

          I try to avoid the hype train where I can and just get a solid, performing piece. If I can’t at the least enjoy it in a Range Day or have it as an EDC, it’s not worth buying. The Maxim feels like it could become an EDC pistol, but the Fischer Suppressor might be a nice Range Day item. Who knows!

  • TheNotoriousIUD

    Ill hold off on judgement until I can hear one in action but its a decent idea.
    Also….price?
    The only advantage here is if its substantially less than the cost of a traditional suppressor + threaded barrel + what has to be considerably less noise reduction.

    So in other words this thing better be mighty affordable which I somehow doubt.

    • Rick O’Shay

      About 70 euros, with a life expectancy of 30 rounds. Big ol’ “no thanks.”

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        I’d also worry about slightly warping polymer frames when heated up that might cause a baffle strike.

  • MrBrassporkchop

    What? Well if this works then maybe we were wrong about suppressing revolvers.

  • A Fascist Corgi

    I’m a sucker for everything German, Austrian, and Swiss. Their engineering is very pleasing to the eye.

    • iksnilol

      German is good, Austrian i don’t know, Swiss is horrible.

      Hämmerli X-Esse, never ever again.

      • Rick O’Shay

        I see you’ve once owned a Swatch.

        • iksnilol

          No, I just shoot with a Hämmerli. Biggest piece of crap that costs 1100 USD or so. Glad I am only borrowing it, can’t imagine somebody is stupid enough to pay for one.

          Only Swiss thing I like is the chocolate and the pocket knives, and lately I’ve begun doubting my SAK what with it not being a locking blade. A Leatherman Wave seems to call upon me.

          PS: Seriously, don’t get Swiss watches, they’re really overpriced for the performance.

          • mcjagermech

            “Seriously, don’t get Swiss watches, they’re really overpriced for the performance.” i think this would also apply well to a certain German arms company and their products

          • iksnilol
          • mcjagermech

            it’s like you read my mind

          • iksnilol

            I’ve been on the internet far too long. I’m more corporeal here than in the “real” world.

          • mazkact

            Was not the SIG 210 Swiss made ? How about the K-31 ? I submit there are some good Swiss made firearms, not all but some are really good.

          • iksnilol

            Sig is sorta halfway German and halfway Swiss. At least old Sig was like that. New Sig is American crap.

            K-31 is milsurp, it’s price to value ratio is waaay off compared to new production.

          • A Fascist Corgi

            The Swiss are still widely regarded as being the best watchmakers in the world, but keep spouting nonsense.

          • iksnilol

            Rolexes are overpriced, wannabe nazi watches for son’s of lawyers who won’t ever work.

            Seriously, for the same money you can get a Seiko that’s twice as accurate.

            But hey, the Swiss have good marketing.

          • A Fascist Corgi

            Every single Rolex watch is certified to be accurate by -2/+2 seconds per day – which is more than enough practical accuracy. There’s also a lot more to watchmaking than mere accuracy. If I wanted the most accurate analog watch possible, then I’d buy a $300 Precisionist from Bulova.

            And Rolex is just one of many luxury watchmakers in Switzerland. No other country has the reputation that Switzerland does for watchmaking. Everyone who’s into horology knows that.

          • iksnilol

            -2/+2 isn’t bad, but it is bad if a Seiko for half the price can match it or exceed it.

          • Stephen Paraski

            I used to be into horas that drank coke.

  • SillyMoustachioManWithNoMustac

    “Bang reduction: 139.9 dbC L peak”

    Does this mean at its worst, it’s 0.1dB away from damaging your hearing? Um….

    • koolhed

      They “beat the street by a penny.” Right!

    • gusto

      remember that decibel isn’t a constant measurement

      sorry don’t know the correct terms but 1 decibel louder is more the higher up in the scale you go

  • roguetechie

    Haha one more reason to go with rotating barrel locking system short recoil actions for pistols!!

  • Harry’s Holsters

    Interesting concept I really like the idea of throwing it on my carry gun and using it as my night stand setup and then taking it off the next morning.

    • TheNotoriousIUD

      Same here, my woman gets super cranky when I wake her up in the middle of the night.

      • BryanS

        Mine hates it when I add permanent hearing damage to the already traumatic experience of shooting an intruder.

  • Edeco

    It’s pleasant looking, but the Glahk
    rail is pretty floppy. I think this is a way too much to ask of it. If they’d made it for a Jericho… tho even that, if the rail got torqued it would gall the slide because the slide rails are full length. I dunno.

  • Ninoslav Trifunovic

    I’ve seen this piece at Enforce Tac / IWA. Also had minor conversation with guy at booth. Suppressor will cost about 70 euros, and it’s aluminum made. Life expectancy is pretty low, (at least for Americans), about 30 rounds. But, it’s not that bad for military. These suppressors and subsonics could be very helpful in certain situations behind enemy lines, just for example.

    • Rick O’Shay

      30 rounds? Hard pass. Pretty much means, for an American, this will go on your nightstand gun and never get touched again until someone breaks in.

    • Giolli Joker

      Why do they claim 3000rds maintenance period, then?

      • Ninoslav Trifunovic

        Don’t have a clue. That’s what I was told few days ago.

        • Ninoslav Trifunovic

          OK, my bad guys. I checked this info with my friend. It’ s thirty hundreds or 3000 rounds. Sorry for bad info. I’m quite deaf on my left ear and “Austrian English” doesn’t sound like English language I know.

    • Jones2112

      I’m pretty sure it isn’t gonna be selling here in the US for about $75 as that would be the equivalent to 70 euros…

      Are you sure you heard that number right, sure it wasn’t 700 euros?

  • USMC03Vet

    That is so cyberpunk I grew a Mohawk.

  • L

    I handled the thing at IWA, on the blue dummy Glock it felt super light, and I mean SUPER light. According to Pol Tec they fired 300 rounds though one without any issues and claimed it was hearing safe.

  • gunsandrockets

    Behold! The Glock-Block!

  • Ranger Rick

    Looks like something Robo Cop would love.

  • Joe Gamer

    Well…
    It looks cool anyway! Probably wont work very well though, there just isn’t enough “tightness” in the tolerances between the barrel and the bottom rail to make a good gas seal.

  • Colonel K

    Without a tight seal, and I mean a leak-proof seal, there will be excessive noise. A friend once tested this theory on a Dan Wesson revolver. He loaded it with 38 Special rounds, cocked it, and placed a wedge between the hammer and firing pin (don’t try this at home, kiddies). He then threaded the barrel down tightly against the face of the cylinder and attached a 9mm suppressor to the muzzle. When he fired it, it was still loud. I presume the FD suppressor faces a similar challenge.

  • Hunter1748

    I would

  • Hunter1748

    Like to try first. To see how is the recoil and sound and then judge it. Were to buy this?