BREAKING: Colt Lays Off Custom Shop Director, Other Employees, Company Rumored Gutted

What is happening at Colt? That’s the question on many people’s minds as news of layoffs in the company began to trickle out starting on Tuesday. Rumors of massive layoffs at Colt began with a post at Pistol-Forum by member “misanthropist”, who wrote:

Sounds like a big mess down there and a whole lot of pink slips, including my favourite division, the custom shop.

The extent of the layoffs are not yet known, but it has been confirmed that Brent Turchi, director of Colt Customer Service and the Colt Custom Shop, was let go. Brent posted the following at 1911forum.com:

I am alive and well just no longer with Colt. I will continue to be a member of this forum and interact as I see appropriate. I will also tell the forum when and where I land. I have and will continue to enjoy this forum and its members. All thoughts are appreciated.
Brent

Whether this is a handful of layoffs or a gutting of the company is yet unknown, but according to misanthrope, things are not looking good. He posted that Colt Canada had reportedly been gutted, and the Colt Advanced Systems division and the Custom Shop virtually shut down entirely:

Sorry guys I don’t think there’s any information I can link to.

My understanding is that Advanced Systems is shut down entirely, as is the Custom Shop. Colt Canada will be stripped down to little more than the C8 production line and the extraneous people just had their jobs eliminated. The SWORD and MRR programs sound like they’re shelved. From the sounds of things, a lot of job losses.

That’s what I am hearing, anyway.

Colt has been trying to make its way back to normalcy, after bankruptcy rocked the company in 2015. The company debuted its newly reintroduced Cobra revolver at the 2017 SHOT Show, a firearm developed in part due to the efforts of the Custom Shop. The Custom Shop also helped debug the Defender compact 1911 variant.

There is a lot of speculation that with the election and lack of contracts, Colt simply doesn’t have enough money to continue operating these divisions. Shutting them down, however, would burn a significant amount of goodwill that Colt has built over the years with its customer base, which might make recovery even harder for the Hartford company.

We will keep our readers updated as things unfold.



Nathaniel F

Nathaniel is a history enthusiast and firearms hobbyist whose primary interest lies in military small arms technological developments beginning with the smokeless powder era. In addition to contributing to The Firearm Blog, he runs 196,800 Revolutions Per Minute, a blog devoted to modern small arms design and theory. He is also the author of the original web serial Heartblood, which is being updated and edited regularly. He can be reached via email at [email protected]


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  • Steve Martinovich

    I have a feeling that the Colt Canada side will be taken over by the Canadian government on the grounds of being a national security asset,

    • Anonymoose

      Or they’ll just start buying their rifles from FN, Remington, Armalite, or S&W.

      • Steve Martinovich

        The Canadian government declared Colt Canada/Diemaco a national security asset during the Harper era. Believe me, if Colt goes too far with CC the Canadian government will take it over on its terms. The Canadian defense establishment is very protective of the home grown ability to produce rifles.

        • MPWS

          I see sell off of Diemaco to Colt as mistake at first place. Amazingly, it seem to created false sense of ‘pride’ among some of its employees. Now they have opportunity to wake up.

          • Pat

            I was initially optimistic when Diemaco became Colt Canada, especially when they finally started to sell small amounts of rifles to the public.

            But now, it looks like they’ve been tied to a sinking ship. I hope some Canadian investors can buy Diemaco back and ‘cut the cord’.

      • john huscio

        They’d be taking a huge step down in quality with any of those makers except FN………Colt Canada arguably makes the best DI AR type guns on the planet.

        • Secundius

          I believe both French FAMAS-F1’s and G2’s Bullpups are “DI” systems. France invented the DI in 1900 and their First DI Production Rifle was the Rossingnol ENT 1900 in 6x60mm…

  • Tom – UK

    *NB: The below is from an outsider’s perspective of the Colt debacle/struggle/issues*

    I first started shooting when I was 14 here in good old blighty. Even then 12 years ago I was going onto forums and could see the predominantly US customer base complaining even then how Colt didn’t want to sell much to civilians because it would have the M16/M4 contracts with the US armed forces forever.

    Even to my inexperienced mind it seemed mad that a company would actively choose not to take advantage of its brand name and established manufacturing base to provide a broad spread of products across a huge civilian market. I also saw a similar thing with Heckler & Koch but at least they were held back by onerous and complex German export laws not by a desire to sell.

    For 12 years Colt continued before suddenly noticing that everyone was buying things they were not selling and started to release “Me too” AR15 products. But I never saw anything…unique, nothing that changed or improved upon anything or at a price point that really blew others out of the water. (Perhaps some escaped my attention given I don’t observe pistols or lever actions etc greatly).

    It just seems to me that with highly innovative companies like Kel-Tec (no matter how hard it supposedly is to find their guns) making new/innovative /interesting guns and large numbers of SME companies producing 1911s, AR-15s etc. that Colt doesn’t have anything to shoot back with price, quality or innovation wise.

    Maybe I’m wrong and I’d enjoy having someone show me how I’m wrong.

    But lets assume tomorrow Colt as a company dissapeared along with all the products it offers. Is there anything that Colt is selling (Or something comparable) that is not being provided by another company or could be produced by another company in short order?

    • M.M.D.C.

      “Is there anything that Colt is selling (Or something comparable) that is not being provided by another company or could be produced by another company in short order?”

      Rampant ponies.

      • Mike N.

        Yup, the only reason to buy Colt is for the roll mark on the side of the lower receiver. Even their recently introduced M16A1 replica wasn’t made in-house (not to mention being the wrong color for the outrageous $2,500 price tag, but collectors won’t care because of the rampant pony on the side).

        • go4it

          It’s not a “roll” mark …… technically. It’s stamped.

          The complex shape of AR-15 Lowers and the massive size of flat space required to roll a marking die across the area on either side of mag well makes “roll” marking impossible.

          Plus, the amount of force required to get a nice impression might crush said mag well. A “kiss” of a direct, vertical die after finish-machining but before anodizing is the method.

          • Rick O’Shay

            You must be fun at parties, Mr Pedant.

        • frankspeak

          hmm…got an original SP-1…wonder if that’s worth anything…heard it’s supposed to be going on the C&R list…..

      • Jim Slade
        • Daddy-O

          Apparently Bill Cosby liked to use something a little stronger.

      • Andy Z

        They lost me when they discontinued the whole “Snake series of revolvers. I have a 70’s Python and would have liked a “Diamondback .22” and maybe a .44 Anaconda but I disliked the fact that the anaconda didn’t come in blue. I also would have liked to have had my Python freshened up at the custom shop . The only reason I like the Colt revolvers is the vent rib and a cleaner design than S&W

      • DADPOOL

        bravo, you nailed it.

      • Edeco

        That was part of what drew me to one of their old duty revolvers instead of the competing Smith. Also the heart shaped trigger window.

    • BattleshipGrey

      Their decision to effectively focus on government contracts and forget about the civilian market was exactly why I never wanted a Colt. I too observed that mindset when I just started to get into guns and discovering my rights to own them.

      • TheMaskedMan

        It’s common business sense not to put all your eggs in one basket, but apparently Colt doesn’t have any. Colt’s sole obsession with contracts was baffling, especially considering how well S&W’s strategy has been doing over the last 20 years. They’re like a gambling addict solely focused on getting a big score.

        • Juanito Ibañez

          WAY back – well before the controversial Hughes Amendment (aka: “Machine Gun Ban of 1986”) to the ‘Firearms Owners Protection Act of 1986’ – the then-Colt’s Patent Firearms Manufacturing Company (now: Colt’s Manufacturing Company, LLC) made the conscious decision to not sell any of their M16 assault rifle line of machine guns to legally-authorized U.S. “civilians.”

          While this may have seemed a nonissue for most all the firearms community, that combined with their union (UAW) employees’ five year long strike against Colt for higher wages contributed to the USDoD’s selection of Fabrique Nationale as their new supplier of assault rifles in 1988 and, therefore, a significantly-reduced market for Colt’s arms.

          Because both Colt’s decision and Bill Hughes’ ban – combined with union workers strike – marked a significant downturn in both Colt’s production, quality, standing in the firearm’s community and desirability, these recent turns of events were inevitable.

          All-in-all, that rumbling sound emanating from Hartford CT’s Cedar Hill Cemetery is Sam Colt spinning in his grave.

          • frankspeak

            true..if you wanted an M-16…you had to buy an AR-15 and convert it..

          • Juanito Ibañez

            Back when I was an ATF-licensed Title II, Class 2 SOT machine gun manufacturer, a large part of my business was converting semi-auto arms – including AR-15 Sporter rifles – to selective-fire for individual law enforcement officers (LEOs), since Colt wouldn’t sell their M16s to anyone other LE than the departments themselves.

            Consequently, when the ‘Hughes Amendment’ went into effect on 19 May 1986, I lost the bulk of my customers, as under the ‘Machine Gun Ban of 1986’ individual officers were also ‘prohibited persons’ when it came to post-ban-manufactured auto weapons.

          • frankspeak

            yeah,..so much for form ones..and putting you’re stamp on it…we’ll never see the likes of the eighties again……..

          • frankspeak

            but Colt guns [AR-15’s] were better than any others back then…

          • jack. lafever

            Personally I think that the ban on full -auto rifles should be lifted, t see people on different back grounds on videos shooting full-auto every day, what gets too me is, they ALL have money. I can’t afford to drop 10 to 16 thousand on a rifle just because it is a full-auto selector switch on it. The days of Bonnie and Clyde, baby face and Dillinger are over. I think it’s time to open the gates and let the public enjoy the days of old for themselves…. legalize full-auto rifles again,

          • Juanito Ibañez

            “Personally I think that the ban on full-auto rifles should be lifted…”

            I fully agree.

            Two things here, Jack:

            1) In testimony before Congress, then-U.S. Attorney General Homer Stille Cummings engaged in a colloquy with then-Congressman David John Lewis (D-MD-6) on the House Committee on Ways and Means about the pending National Firearms Act bill:

            MR. LEWIS: “Lawyer though I am, I have never quite understood how the laws of the various States have been reconciled with the provision in our Constitution denying the privilege to the legislature to take away the right to carry arms. Concealed-weapon laws, of course, are familiar in the various States; there is a legal theory upon which we prohibit the carrying of weapons–the smaller weapons.”

            ATTORNEY GENERAL CUMMINGS: “Do you have any doubt as to the power of the Government to deal with machine guns as they are transported in interstate commerce?”

            MR. LEWIS: “I hope the courts will find no doubt on a subject like this, General; but I was curious to know how we escaped that provision in the Constitution.”

            ATTORNEY GENERAL CUMMINGS: “Oh, we do not attempt to escape it. We are dealing with another power, namely, the power of taxation, and of regulation under the interstate commerce clause. You see, if we made a statute absolutely forbidding any human being to have a machine gun, you might say there is some constitutional question involved. But when you say, ‘We will tax the machine gun,’ and when you say that ‘the absence of a license showing payment of the tax has been made indicates that a crime has been perpetrated,’ you are easily within the law.”

            MR. LEWIS: “In other words, it does not amount to prohibition, but allows of regulation.”

            ATTORNEY GENERAL CUMMINGS: “That is the idea. We have studied that very carefully.”

            Since Bill Hughes’ Machine Gun Ban amendment to the Firearms Owners Protection Act of 1986 is “a statute absolutely forbidding any [non-governmental] human being to have a [post-19 May 1986-manufactured] machine gun”, as Cummings admitted in the above-cited hearing, there is most certainly a “constitutional question involved” with MGB`86.

            2) All federal (and many state) gun control laws share the same “linchpin” — to-wit: ‘USofA v. Jack Miller & Frank Layton’, the fact that the Supreme Court hearing was unconstitutionalª, ALL federal gun control laws have a “constitutional question involved” in their existence.

            a. ‘Hopt v. People of the Territory of Utah’ – 4 S.Ct. 202, 28 L.Ed. 262 (1884)
            Trial in absentia specifically violates the second principle of natural justice, audi alteram partem (hear the other party).

      • USMC03Vet

        Interesting because that is what HK did and yet somehow managed to secure an unearned reputation among civilians as the gold standard being able to charge absurd prices. Must be something more than simply ignoring the civilian market, must be the allure of foreign items as well.

        • ostiariusalpha

          HK has just as many griping haters as Colt does. The difference is that HK actually has military contracts and Colt doesn’t.

        • BattleshipGrey

          HK never seemed to have such a bias against the civilian market though (unless there were statements or practices I’m unaware of) other than crazy pricing. As long as I’ve been into guns Hi has been releasing new models to the public.

          • ostiariusalpha

            Where’s your semi-auto G36 and MP7? I’m just kiddin’, if HK had their ‘druthers, they’d sell everything they could make to the U.S. market.

          • Pumpkin King XXIII

            There is a German law preventing sales of their military weapons. That why we couldn’t get a semi long barrel ump but got a USC single stack non folding but stock and a single stack sl-8 instead of the g38

          • ostiariusalpha

            Yeah, I’m well aware of HK’s legal straight-jacket.

          • Wow!

            Late 20th century, yeah H&K was pretty innovative. Today, not so much. Most of the stuff that H&K did make that became the staple of other countries arsenals weren’t all that unique, especially their recent offerings. But then again, unique isn’t always better. Still, if I had the choice between an something like an M27 IAR or an M16, I’ll go for the M16. Its the same pig but in a dress.

            Luckily today we have many companies that are more than capable of replacing Colt. Despite being an avid fan of the Colt 9mm SMG back in it’s day (MAC is still my personal favorite by all measures), I will not be missing the company.

      • jerseydave

        They should have learned from the 1980s – Losing the Government 1911 contract and the police revolver contracts nearly destroyed them 🙁

        LOVE their products the last couple years. GREAT guns. This is terrible news 🙁 Their 1911s are flawlessly built.

      • USMC69

        They got addicted to selling overpriced guns and now no one is buying them. Another lesson about depending on the government to take care of you.

      • Anthony “stalker6recon”

        I have never been hung up on the Colt brand, even though I did carry a Colt M4 in the Army, this was back before they started handing them out to every soldier under the sun. As a Cavalry Scout, we were the only platoon in our Company (HHC) to carry M4’s, everyone else had M16A4’s or the M203 version if they were drivers. The LMGs carried M240bravos in our platoon, all others carried the M249 (SAW).

        While I found the rifle, or carbine, to be nice, good fit in both upper/lower, with all the attached goodies (KA rails, back-up iron sights, M68 Aimpoint, PEQ-4) on the fluted (not sure why) 14.5″ H-BAR, I never wanted to get the Colt when I got out, Sure, I wanted to carry that carbine forever if I could, but with all the quality choices on the civilian side, I did not see any reason to pay the ridiculous civilian prices for the stamp on the side of the mag-well. Now with a greater number of AR’s out there, even those with the improvements that Colt seems to have been resisting, out of pride, or not really caring to improve when they have assured contracts. Kind of sucks, and many guys at the time, were looking to get 416 uppers to help with the fouling issues from gas only systems. From what I understand, many had to go around Colt, and buy them on the civilian market. How they worked with the buffer/spring of the Colt, I don’t know, but I would guess that some tinkering had to be made for them to work.

        If Colt was available at a good price, I would buy it, but while it remains one of the most expensive AR platforms, forget it. They have only hurt themselves by this “government only” contract idea, and who ever thought that was “good business” is an idiot. Now they are paying the price of the stupidity. Too bad it sounds like they are cutting the best parts of the company first, sounds like a death spiral to me. I hope the US moves to another maker, finding a US model that can compete with some of the EU models, might be difficult, but it certainly should not be impossible. S&W sounds like a good company to replace the M4 fleet in the military, and I would not even be opposed to the HK416, I would rather it be US made, but hey, better is better, right?

      • S. Plankenberg

        I wonder if Colt management anticipated a ban on privately owned firearms and government lawsuits against manufacturers over time, and thought that having government contracts would keep them in the good graces of the politicians, sparing Colt unpleasantness while their competitors suffered.

        • frankspeak

          gotta’ believe there was some truth to that..especially with ol’ bubba in the white house!

    • Stephen Paraski

      No.

    • BrotherLazarus

      RE: Kel-Tec.

      It’s not a “supposedly” when it comes to product scarcity. Anything that isn’t one of their pocket pistols is incredibly hard to find–up here in the Pacific Northwest shops are finally no longer stuck with 6 month plus waiting lists on stuff like the KSG and some of their older long arms. The company is just plain -bad- at meeting demand. Heck, the PMR-30 pistol is still nearly impossible to find, and that was unveiled what… eight or nine years ago?

      • Rick O’Shay

        It’s not so much that they’re bad at meeting demand, they just refuse to go into debt to expand to current customer demand. And in hindsight of how the last 3-4 months have gone, Keltec is probably one of the few firearms companies that isn’t going to be sitting on a massive surplus of firearms that they just can’t unload, not to mention a huge staff they can no longer afford, and end up being forced to liquidate to meet creditors’ demands.

        They might get rid of staff they don’t need, or shift staff to different areas of production where demand is still high, but they’re not going to go under because they gambled. Keltec doesn’t gamble. Colt gambled, and lost.

        • Sunshine_Shooter

          Kel-Tec is an example of how a company *should* be run. They refuse to go into debt, they keep making new and extremely innovative designs, and their demand never wanes. It sucks if you want something and you can’t instantly gratify your whims, but they will never have to lay off hundreds of people just to stay afloat, and that is WAY more important in my opinion.

          • Porty1119

            Kel-Tec needs to improve its quality control, but I otherwise agree.

          • KestrelBike

            Then again they are probably wasting effective and safe growth potential due to their overabundance of caution.

          • Rick O’Shay

            But they ARE growing. And they’re not filing for bankruptcy. So who’s laughing now?

          • nabbab

            Considering pretty much everyone stole their pistol design, they should license their designs to smaller shops and get a cut of the profits, their brand will also increase in prestige, if higher quality guns from smaller shops are being shipped.

          • Rick O’Shay

            But then if you have issues in quality control among those smaller shops just hoping to ride off the Keltec name, it inevitably tarnishes the reputation. They’re fine with what they’re doing now.

          • ODgreen34

            Of course you can ruin a buisiness by being too conservative. Look at Kodak or zenith. I don’t even read kel-tec pressers anymore. They are perpetual vaporware and it has soured me towards them. I would be fine if a larger manufacture purchased there designs as licenses and kel-tec the manufacturer went under.

          • noob

            I wish they’d license their designs to trusted builders. Kel-Tec could have an “Official” product line, and a clone product line of equal quality with a simple licensing agreement that gets pulled if the quality drops.

        • BrotherLazarus

          When it comes to their normal production handguns I’ll agree with you, but there really is no excuse for the RFB, KSG, and the other alphabet soup platforms that have been announced, then not produced to anywhere even remotely approaching an appropriate number (for the geeks out there I’ll toss out the Wii U launch which seems almost adequate comparatively–gasp, an armorer that is also a nerd?! BLASPHEMY). Across the nation, something which should probably have still been rolling out a large number of units per year was seeing six month waiting lists -in 2016-, and you were looking at (nationally) a year or more for the waitlist.

          If they were having that many concerns about meeting customer demand, there’s a good point to make about not getting into a market that nearly ruined the company’s name. And honestly, with the PMR-30 being a ghost on the industry scene with the sheer amount of pistol production equipment the outfit claims to have, but PF9s in droves for anyone willing to drop $250; I’m not so sure it’s that and not either artificially creating demand by intentionally underproducing, or poor management skills.

          Going back to geek-talk, the company strikes me as something like a particularly annoying Early Access milker. They haven’t adequately delivered on their first in-progress promise, but still turned around and did it several more times with no real assurance anyone outside of a magazine review pool (or really deep pockets, at one point a regional guy got three KSGs and was re-selling them for $8,000 a pop) will ever actually handle one.

          • int19h

            RFB, RDB, PMR etc can all be easily had online. Who are all those people on six-month waiting lists? If you know any personally, please tell them that GunBroker is a thing.

          • BrotherLazarus

            Go double-check any of the trade publications. When Guns & Ammo comments on the number of waiting lists nationally, nevermind your own personal experience talking to people in local shops, it’s not just anecdotal evidence. It showed up in articles from the Brownells blog as well, not to mention Cheaper than Dirt and several others. This is not simply some crank saying “well waaah I can’t play with one”, this is someone that actually pays attention to the industry.

            GunBroker wasn’t very helpful either, as the KSGs available shortly after launch were all running -two or three times- MSRP, placed by scalpers that DID get them right off and were looking for a quick buck. Thus, my commentary about actual store shortages stands.

            After handling one myself, I wouldn’t pay the original intended $700 MSRP (as mentioned in their first Guns & Ammo article) for a KSG, let alone the $2,500 they were averaging for a good year and a half; especially now that a number of other firms have released (and reliably shipped) similar options for less.

          • int19h

            “It costs more than what I’m willing to pay” is a very different problem from “It cannot be found anywhere”. Clearly, it can be found – but the price is set by the market, according to the rules of supply and demand. You’re either willing to pay it or you’re not, but Kel-Tec firearms are hardly the only ones that people consider overpriced; yet I don’t see them complaining about their availability. MSRP simply isn’t relevant – it’s an arbitrary number, nothing more. Just pretend it’s not there.

            FWIW, PMR-30 can be had for less than $500 on GunBroker right now.

            I’ll grant you that there are periods when those guns are announced, and nominally on sale, but aren’t actually available anywhere. This has been true for KSG, for example. But to say that they are not available now is plainly incorrect.

            So, I stand by my assertion. Someone who wants a Kel-Tec gun so much that they’re willing to sign up for a 6-month waiting list to get one, *right now*, makes no sense. I’m not disputing your claims that people do that – but it still makes no sense.

          • BrotherLazarus

            The problem was an issue with retailer availability, not complete unavailability–though for many, a gimmicky firearm that weighs too much to legally hunt with in several states (the limit is 15 pounds counting accessories here for example, which rules out the RFB with glass) for $2,000-$8,000 (depending on the amount of gouging indulged by the private seller) is just too much to be considered for the average shooter. They seem to have forgotten why their pistols have proven so popular: a relatively reliable platform well within the realm of affordability for the average modern shooting enthusiast. They practically corner the market for those of us incapable of dropping $1,500 for a single pistol.

            There is a point where it’s no longer supply and demand, but dishonest price gouging–retailers are finally able to stock them NIB reliably enough that they are no longer running through waiting lists, alleviating the aforementioned issue with retailer availability; but I’m still seeing local shops pricing them above solid fighting rifles like the civilian SCAR-H .308–for used KSGs.

            See my previous comparisons to the video gaming community for a better breakdown. There are a number of companies that have similar practices, pricing high for incomplete products while running multiple beta projects at once. These do not usually fare well, especially when they got their start producing adequate programs for budget pricing and their later products are the same level of quality, but priced two or three times as much.

          • int19h

            If they are gimmicky firearms – which I don’t disagree, BTW; KSG and RFB definitely were and are, and I would argue that PMR is that category as well – why does retailer availability matter? People who really *want* them will get them through other channels. Prices on them also reflect that same thing.

            Meanwhile, as you yourself note, they continue to manufacture their “staple” products like P32, P3AT, PF-9 and SU-16 in large quantities, and they are not at all hard to find.

            So it seems to me like Kel-Tec understands its products, and their target audience, quite well, and adopts different pricing and distribution strategies accordingly. So far as I know, they’re doing very good financially, too. And I would expect that to remain the case, until their core products become outdated or rendered obsolete by new releases from other manufacturers. Now if *at that point* they still continue to crank out untested high-priced stuff, then they’ll be in trouble. But they’re nowhere even near that point yet.

          • BrotherLazarus

            Off of the main point: my use of the term gimmicky is pretty relative here, as I’m sure there are people that would argue with me until they’re blue in the face (in fact, a couple times this has happened while giving someone professional advice). Initially, the switching-feed double-tube system of the KSG appealed to me, as I tend to carry a scattergun in pretty specific situations and being able to switch between slug and shot was a selling point. However, a couple other companies have since released competitively priced shotguns that achieve similar things. Likewise the RFB appealed–I have an appreciation for the balance of a decent bullpup rifle, the heavier varieties tend to balance more easily for me with my back problems than a similar weight, standard configuration rifle.

            However, from a realist standpoint, most people would be better served getting a bog-standard .308 or 12 gauge for a third or less the price; and a good number of people otherwise interested were quite vocal (in some cases, people with some serious market clout) about the price points and lack of retailer availability, and the KSG’s appeal died on the vine. And that was before users started noting that the forearm was cracking and breaking under heavy use–a fairly serious end user issue of the kind almost completely unknown in other Kel-Tec products prior to the KSG.

          • Ed

            Never had a issue with my HEAVILY used KSG. I think you just hate Kel-Tec.

          • BrotherLazarus

            One, I have nothing against the company. I trust their handguns well enough to recommend, and a lot of their odder stuff just looks cool.

            Two, the fore-end was a big enough issue that it was covered by several prominent industry blogs and a number of professional competition shooters that do reviews on Youtube about a year ago, give or take–even a Magpul AFG mounted on the -rail that is meant for that very type of forward support- was enough to crack the fore-end in a statistically significant number of cases. As an armorer, that kind of thing raises alarm bells when trade publications mention it.

            Your anecdotal evidence is not a good or bad mark for the company, as you are one end user and a single product isn’t statistically significant. Your experience may be largely positive, which isn’t a problem. In fact, it’s great to hear that it’s working the right way without serious issues. But enough reports (complete with photographic evidence) have popped up to make me leery of the KSG. But I’m not viewing the platform as just an end user, I’m viewing the platform as an armorer. I won’t recommend someone get something that may have a major component break when it’s most needed.

            Look at how Kimber tanked the reputation of the 1911 by turning a rattle that went bang -every- time you pulled the trigger into an incredibly close tolerance, admittedly accurate platform that has issues any time it’s exposed to serious conditions. A whole generation of shooting enthusiasts know the platform as a useless, jam-prone, expensive firearm–thanks wholly to market perception caused by a single product.

          • Ed

            Most of the scum that were price gouging on gunbroker a few years ago were cops buying PMRs and KSGs on the law enforcement program kel tec had in place and gave them preferential order placement (even though no department I know of will allow a officer to carry a .22 mag ) They in turn would have them shipped to them and post them on GB. Nice huh? From what I understand now, Kel-Tec got wise and changed their L.E. purchase policy now.

          • Suppressed

            I try and boycott any companies that do LE discounts. If you can sell it that cheap to a group that isn’t even really composed of gun bros, then sell it that cheap to everyone. Or at least extend the discount to NRA/NAGR members.

          • Ed

            RFB, KSG, Sub2k, CMR 30 AND PMR 30 all in stock at my local gun store. I bought my first PMR 30 almost 2 years ago. You’re shopping at the wrong places. Also, anyone who pays 8k for a KSG deserves to be hosed like that, what a moron. Think he wants to buy another? I’ll cut him a hell of a deal. 6k and it’s all his…I’ll even deliver it.

          • BrotherLazarus

            That’s stock over the last four years in fairly major Pacific Northwest chains, I wasn’t citing availability at the little guys. They have a hard enough time keeping budget AR15 part kits in stock at the best of times, let alone something that isn’t making it to our big chains; they are functional non-entities in this discussion. Not bad places, but certainly nowhere near the same delivery priority as a regional or national chain.

            And, for the record, nobody I know personally is stupid enough to pay eight large for a shotgun that isn’t custom built by a major name in the industry. There have been people trying to flip them for that much, however–that’s why I refuse to place private sellers in any form of priority when it comes to new hardware. That, and the sheer number of idiots I come across that think filing down the sear is a “custom trigger job”, and expect a $300+ markup on an unsafe piece of formerly NIB hardware.

        • glenn cheney

          I must say, your post is some of the finest financial advice I’ve read on any business sector.
          Countless great companies have met demise over responding to cyclical demands only to later see the float all boats tide recede.
          Worthy of framing, in all executive offices.
          Too bad AT&T didn’t have your advice on the wall, before they went OFF the wall and stuck thst Direct TV pig in the azz.
          Sears used to bait midsized successful operations the same manner.

      • Ed

        I see PMR and CMR 30s here in the northeast quite regularly. Got a gen 2 sub2k under retail almost a year ago and I’ve had my KSG for years now. Maybe Kel-Tec just isn’t west coast friendly, lol.

    • Renov8

      “But lets assume tomorrow Colt as a company dissapeared along with all the products it offers. Is there anything that Colt is selling (Or something comparable) that is not being provided by another company or could be produced by another company in short order?”
      When you comoditize anything…anyone can come in and make it. So, to answer your question…nothing is sacred anymore. Its a comodity and comodities are cheap and plentiful.

      • Andy Z

        The “Snake” Revolvers that they no longer make anyway

        • PEB

          Yes, and what if you own a Python, Diamondback, etc and it needs work? They aren’t like S&W–there are very few gunsmiths around who know how to work on them and parts are not easy to find. Grant Cunningham isn’t doing smithing any more, so that pretty much leaves the Colt factory, Cylinder and Slide, and maybe a couple of others I am not aware of. Any ideas on who else can work on these guns?

          • frankspeak

            sorta’ like owning a pontiac!….

    • Mmmtacos

      You should really watch the Forgotten Weapons video on the history of Colt. It shows that Colt used to be a company that gained success by employing genius gunsmiths: the last of which was probably John Browning. Colt started to go downhill from there due to crappy leadership, not even managing to make a huge profit in war time. From there it essentially just gets bought out to get gutted, narrowly saved but still uninnovative and just surviving only to be passed from one president to another.

      It’s sad, though. Colt is now just a name, and nothing more. They have nothing innovative and the last new design they really tried to push was a ghastly thing and abysmal failure despite Eugene Stoner having a hand in it. I guess pistols weren’t his thing (he also apparently not included in the final stages of the design), but if you ever get a chance to handle one check it out… you’ll think you’re getting a bargain on a piece of firearms history only to realize why they’re so cheap.

      Maybe the 2000 left a bad taste in Colt’s mouth, but they really need to just TRY something these days. It’s amazing to me they’re only just now re-entering the DA/SA revolver market. A new Python may not hold a candle to the ones of old if they started making them again but they only need to be on par with S&W and Ruger to turn a profit. I know everyone is tired of the striker-fired, polymer-frame market but don’t you want to see a good Colt entry into it?

      It’d be nice to see someone try to revitalize the company with some daring and aspiring gunsmiths with new ideas: harken back to the days of old, if you will. I just doubt Colt will do it…

      • Colonel K

        I don’t blame Eugene Stoner or Reid Knight for how the Colt 2000 turned out. Colt modified their design, presumably to ease production, and the result was a pistol with the second worst trigger pull I have ever experienced on a firearm. I still own that safe queen just for the novelty of it.

        • Bill

          I’ll bet if you tried to use it as a boat anchor it would float because the water would reject it. I remember the AA 2000 well, and I’m only half kidding.

    • autofull– kevin horning

      gee, what a surprise and a shame. i wish colt could get it,s act together but then im old and i remember when all was right in the world. yeh, sure.

    • Jeff Smith

      “Colt doesn’t have anything to shoot back with price, quality or innovation wise.”

      This. They make good 1911s, ARs, and replica guns (SAA and the like), but other companies do the same, often at half the price. Reintroducing the “snake gun” line seems like a step in the right direction, but, even then, they’ll still have stiff competition from companies like S&W and Ruger, you’ll have to compete against Taurus (their quality isn’t exactly comparable, but their prices are considerably cheaper), and, on the high end, you’ll have to compete against Korth and Kimber (Kimber’s relatively-new revolver’s MSRP is competitive priced).

      Add to that that most of the other companies selling the same products are more diversified (companies like S&W/Ruger/Springfield etc sell 1911s and ARs, but have a variety of other products), and you have a problem.

      • HIstoricalRecord

        Technically, since Colt has only had production hiatuses, and they are the original company to produce SAA’s, they are not replicas, but simply new factory production. A new production S&W M24 or M10 are not replicas of older S&W revolvers, they are new guns in a long line of production. A brand new S&W M 27 is no more a “replica” of a registered magnum as a new Colt AR-15 is a replica of an original AR-15 from the mid 20th century.

        Also, I seem to perceive your tone as somehow comparing S&W or Colt to Ruger, which is a big joke. Ruger is a mid range producer, and no where near the same quality or level of respect as Colt or S&W. They compete in the same revolver market, but at different levels, they compete in the fact they all sell revolvers to possible consumers, but they are not equal in the fact that any self respecting person who has the money would never stoop to buying a Ruger instead of a S&W or Colt unless one desires a Redhawk for hotloading.

        • ostiariusalpha

          The GP revolvers are fun, practical guns, and a much better buy than a Taurus. I’d put them a bit ahead of the Alfa-Proj/CzechPoint revolvers with a slightly better finish, but either is a good gun.

        • Ed

          You’ve got to be kidding me. “Ruger is a mid range producer, and no where near the same quality or level of respect as Colt or S&W. ”
          Really? I have a 3 1/2″ vaquero high polish stainless with birdshead blackwood grips and it’s flawless and I can fire loads through it that would blow a Smith apart at the seams. The best part is there is NO Hillary hole with a built in failure feature. I would take a GP100 over a model 19 any day. Smith & Wesson bluing is crap compared to Ruger as well. The S&W of today is NOT even close to the classic S&W of old.

          • Vermin__Supreme

            Flawless? Your kidding or must have pretty low standards. I had one, ordered online- the tool marks were annoying, esp on the cylinder, polish isn’t that great and the front sight looked like it was JB welded on. Not to mention 1/2 the barrel is covered in a warning label. They should have put more time in finishing the gun and less in that dumb warning. Hated that thing.

          • Bill

            Sad but true. I shelled out a ridiculous amount of money for one of S&W’s limited edition Turnbull case-hardened Centennials, and I’m still sore from the raping I took. Aside from the beautiful Turnbull work, that thing was a piece of garbage from top to bottom. Cloudy bluing, uneven markings, a dished in belt around the cylinder and an action that was grittier than a mouthful of sand were all nails in the new S&W coffin, at least for me.

          • frankspeak

            super blackhawk aint bad either…fit to finish to function are all top notch……..

          • frankspeak

            …although my Model 29 is more accurate…dead center at 100yds!

        • SPQR9

          Ruger is more affordable manufacturer because Ruger is more innovative at manufacturing efficiencies than Colt or S&W. I would not ever say that Ruger was “no where near the same quality level”. Especially when Colt and S&W have so dramatically compromised fit and finish themselves.

          • HIstoricalRecord

            No, its cheaper because it has cheaper and inferior manufacturing processes, and makes inferior final products. Good try though. Its been really funny the last few weeks talking to folks on the internet, and running into the kinds of resistance like this. I’m almost half guessing there are some astroturfers doing a lot of it. Ruger is desperate to pretend its as good as the big boys, and int he coming slower market, and lower sales for everyone, I suppose they have good reason to fear.

          • hANNABONE

            …I thought we were discussing Colt. Did I miss something.?

        • frankspeak

          mini-14 ain’t bad…..

    • Jason Adams

      I agree with you it is reminiscent of the Detroit arrogance and shortsightedness. They stopped making the snake revolvers and now the mentally deficient management thinks a 6 shot snubby is going to save their butts. Where do they get these guys that run these companies like this? It is sad but when you put all your eggs in one basket …. Well you know the rest. Too bad the loyal employees will get the shaft in the process of it all.

    • Dirk Dasterdly

      I am a Glock armorer. Sat next to another armorer who said he was a Colt armorer too. I thought about doing the Colt program. They said it was restricted to LE and Mil only. Really? I’m a Colt Stocking Dealer and a gunsmith and you’re telling me I cannot attend your class to support your products that I sell? That’s not the way to increase brand enthusiasm.

      • Secundius

        True! The Course is Restricted to Active Law Enforcement, Corrections, Military and Nuclear Security Services. But there is a “Back Door” to the Certification Course. Details as follows, Contact your Local Police Department about Your Interest in Attending the Course (http;// http://www.policemag. com/blog/firearms-and-tactics/story/2012/05/colt-s-armorer-course.aspx). Sorry about the Format, but was Redacted after “Trying” to Post Answer Twice. Information is in the Last 2 Paragraphs Website Article. And Good Luck…

    • jcitizen

      My opinion too – they had a fantastic convertible law enforcement rifle, that you guessed it, was probably ONLY going to be built by contract with LEOs. Stupid! Then they got out of revolvers just when the concealed carry was going off the charts(not everyone wants a semi-auto for that), plus the huge popularity of cowboy action shooting. Just one blunder after another if you ask me!!

  • Ed Ward

    A true shame on so many levels with the laid-off Blue-Collar employees being first and foremost in mind…Likewise, the demise of Colt would be a big-blow to cultural ‘Americana’ analogous to the loss of ‘baseball, apple-pie and Chevrolet.’ Let’s hope the ship can be righted and both innovation as well as re-intros of the iconic Python or the like all come to fruition…

    • TexTopCat

      Well, it is time for businesses to leave states that are anti-2A.

      • frankspeak

        yeah,..too much uncertainty there…

    • Rick O’Shay

      I never saw anything from the “reintroduction” that would lead me to believe it’d be anything close to the old icons. They were, still are, and always will bank on their brand name getting them through any and everything.

    • HIstoricalRecord

      American labour unions destroyed Colt and Chevy. The American blue collar worker was his own worst enemy. You want to understand why Americana is dead, look at the lower class people who were so greedy they destroyed their own economy and industry.

      • Ed Ward

        Yup–since the 60’s with Hoffa they bought into the Democrat Party’s nanny-state promise of ‘spoonfed’ care from crib to grave…FINALLY, after eight painfully long years of BHO shipping every and all jobs outside the U.S. the unions finally decided enough is enough and told Hillary to go seek medical treatment and not the Oval…

  • Anonymoose

    Just in time to kill off the new Cobra and any hopes of ever having a Colt revolver revival.

    • BattleshipGrey

      Too little, too late. I was surprised they went for it at all, but I’m even more surprised now given the trouble they’re in…again. It must’ve been their last ditch effort.

    • it’s just Boris

      If there were going to be one, the new Cobra wasn’t the one to lead it.

    • Sunshine_Shooter

      I was ardently hoping that the snake revolvers would be re-introduced, but I guess that dream is now as dead as ever.

      • Andy Z

        Me Too!

    • Malthrak

      Most of those revolvers were never going to come back. They required lots of hand fitting and work by competent gunsmiths and machinists with lots of experience. Those guys have been gone for 20+ years at this point in most cases, that knowledge and skill no longer exists within the organization, and could not be rebuilt profitably, there arent many in the market for $4k revolvers.

      • it’s just Boris

        And those that are, will likely start shopping at Korth.

    • 40mmCattleDog

      Seriously dude, what a buzzkill.

  • Hanover Fist

    I wonder if Colt Precision was hit with these layoffs…

    • it’s just Boris

      My understanding is that they are a completely separate company who license the Colt name.

      If so, I would expect them to be okay for now. However, the name associates them and this news will not help entice prospective customers.

  • Conner

    Hang on to your old Colts folks because you will be hard pressed to find the care taken to build them, their quality or collectability in todays dog eat dog world of CNC ’em and get them on the shelf. It’s just a fact in todays world. I have mentioned this before when the Cobra first came out. It looks like a Taurus with a Colt stamp imo. None of that majestic Colt class, style or ‘soul’. Then their shop prices are/were absurd. Unfortunately the famous Colt name that we all know and respect will only carry a company with poor management so far. I wish any laid off employees Gods speed in finding new work if in fact Colts demise is fact and not rumor. Some other manufacturer would do well to grab up these good people.

    • Not sure I fully agree with your assessment of Colt’s magical build quality. Colt has had a mixed reputation over the years. They have pulled some stunts (large hole lowers, anyone?) and have some released some real stinkers (Double Eagle, All-American 2000, etc.). Even their AR-15s were not well-thought-of at certain points in their history.

      But the other problem with the Colt worship is that I can walk into the store and buy a “mil-spec” FN rifle now (M4A1 or M16A4 copy), and I can buy equally high-quality rifles from BCM and DD (amongst others). Even if they were running at full steam, there are options that are equally good, and often at a lower price.

      • Conner

        I guess you are correct in pointing out that the quality would be subjective erwos. I probably should have said that ‘perceived’ majestic Colt class. I also should have pointed out I was speaking of the past i.e. the Peace Maker and all the folklore that followed it in days gone by. I have Colts along with many others named here. I gotta say I love my Colts and don’t have problems with them…yet anyway 🙂

  • TaDead!

    Colts decision to block the wholesaling of their product to non storefront, non stocking dealers is hopefully biting them in the ass. Not good enough to sell your product, eh? Well, apparently neither are you! Great way to alienate smaller dealers and their customers, though. And in the end, I just sell them a competing product, so, great move, Colt! Keep up the good work.

    • TexTopCat

      Yes, yet another “politically correct” mistake.

  • Joseph Goins

    I have a rumor about BCM buying the rights to the ACR so they can do it right.
    Can my story be published? I can’t link anything; it’s just what I heard.

    • Phillip Cooper

      Nicely done…

      I hate how blog and forum posts are considered “good journalism” these days..

  • Doug Threadgill

    My wife owns a Colt Government Pocket .380. IT IS NOT A “MUSTANG!”
    It looks like a cut down size of the 1911, and breaks down exactly the same way.
    Old Navy Gunner’s Mate in charge of ships Armory, so I am very well versed on field stripping the 1911, I instructed it in service!
    We have taken it to Gun shows and a lot of Colt people have said, they have never seen one like it, or know of it.
    We know it has not been produced since Colt shut down their small arms division several years ago, & what I have found thus fa,r is that IT was a Limited Manufacture! The magazine is wearing out. It is suppose to hold 7 rounds, but you are doing good to get 6 rounds in it. I need new mags.
    I have tried several aftermarket types supposedly the same specs for it, but none of them will go in and lock. Locking slot is a fraction of a mm off
    Can anyone help me?

    • Phillip Cooper

      You know there are files, right??

    • BryanS

      In a round about way, you hit the nail on the head of some of the problems. When they have a line of pistols that no one knows they actually made, including the company reps…

      Otherwise, find a comparable pocket pistol of the same caliber, and match up the mags.

  • Before anyone dismisses “misanthrope” as a rumormonger, note that he is the editor of the Canadian gun magazine Calibre. 1911 Forum member “Evolution Armory” is also a former Colt Custom Shop employee.

  • 1inidaho

    Sounds like Colt will be just another name added to other major corporations who have taken over numerous companies.

  • SafetyDave

    A company doesnt fail because of politics, religion, employees, or even bad product; a company fails because of BAD MANAGEMENT. Good management is where company leaders are both intelligent and brave, and are, themselves, loyal to their brand.

  • Major Tom

    Are they not in violation of the WARN Act? Or are these parts of Colt not in that jurisdiction?

  • TexTopCat

    I think that they will continue to have a hard time staying in business as long as they have their facilities in places like Connecticut. I know that makes a difference when I look for a new gun. They need to move to Texas. Not only would it instill a lot of good will, it would reduce the cost of doing business greatly.

    • Harell Coley

      I wish they would move to a gun-friendly state. I try not to buy any firearm that is made in a state that isn’t gun-friendly as I don’t want any of my hard earned money going to a state government that would confiscate my guns if they could. I believe that Colt is no longer in the original factory, so why not leave the state?

  • Darhar M.

    Colt decided long ago to cater to the government and ditched the civilian market just as I decided long ago never to buy a Colt.

  • ORCON

    It still blows me away that any firearms company could go bankrupt during the Obama years.

    • Renov8

      Look at the vultures who sucked the company dry….easy to explain why they declared bankruptcy.

    • Malthrak

      The people who own Colt and are calling the shots aren’t looking to build a viable long term business, they dont care about the people who work there, they dont care about firearms, they dont care about the company history, they’re in it to suck as much value out as they can to get high returns for a few fiscal quarters before they dump the withered husk and move on to the next weakened company.

  • imtoomuch

    It would be sad to see an American icon die, but at the same time I would have to laugh in the face of the Colt nuts that still think it’s the only “real” 1911. Although the collectability and price of these guns would also go up making some of these same clueless morons even more full of themselves and their Colts.

    • Gunsmith

      Exactly! I have been shooting a Thompson 1911 for decades and everyone puts it down, UNTIL THEY SHOOT IT! Then they can’t! I have shot with others that think Colt is the only 1911. It wouldn’t exist without John Browning! I don’t own any Colts mostly because of price, and because of their disconnect with the public. I shoot SASS, and my .45 Ruger Vaqueros are spot on, and a hell of a lot stronger than a Colt SAA, at 1/3 the price! They priced themselves out because of greed and alienated the consumer by stopping sales to us.

      • Marcus D.

        I agree with you that there are other guns that are as good or better than the Colts. I have 6 Italian clones because I can’t afford the original antiques, and my Pietta 1873 .45 Colt, after I slicked it up a bit, is a very sweet shooter. The one thing that Colt SAAs have that the Italians don’t is superior finishes, which may or may not be worth the $1400 buy in price. Still, on my “want to own” list is a new Colt SAA and a circa 1943 M1911A1 with the Colt roll mark, just because they have ponies on them.

  • Kirill

    Colts from Hartford, not New Haven!

    If only they would come back to the civilian market. Most of their modern rifle offerings are illegal in their home state. It’s just too damn bad.

  • Renov8

    Interesting to hear some were laid off….but not for the reasons I heard. My take on the layoffs is Colt is looking to turn themselves around and become better service oriented. The Colt custom shop has a reputation for taking “forever” to get the custom work done and out. Sometimes years for certain custom orders. The grape vine tells me these layoffs were in order and meant to bring in the right people to ensure the custom work is out with in months to weeks…not years. I understand the overall sentiment at the various divisions is upbeat and promising.
    In order to compete in this new environment “post Trump win” companies need to adapt…without doing so, you go under. In the last 8 years how many gun related companies have gone under? Exactly! Its time a lot of the bloated companies make due with what is the new reality…time to downsize and become more efficient and profitable.
    Getting back to Colt…the expanse has been a good product for them, although not an engineering feat, it is profitable and a good product for those looking to enter the AR market. I hear Colt has sold more Expanse rifles in the short time they have been around, than the 6920 has in the last 3 years.
    Mismanagement of any company will run it into the ground. The vultures, known as venture capitalists did such a thing with Colt. I hope, going forward, they learn the errorin their ways and stay lean, profitable, and in business.
    Yes, I own several Colt goods.

    • Sunshine_Shooter

      I hope that this is merely a trimming of the fat to make room for more profitability and better service, but I’m not holding my breath.

    • Marcus D.

      One reason that this theory has credence is that in 2015 Colt purchased all new computer controlled machines to produce their hand guns, a sizeable investment, and the reason only the Colt Commander, made on the old manufacturing line, is the only new Colt still on the California roster. Everything else got bumped off as a “new” pistol and thus subject to the microstamping mandate.

  • Gunga

    Colt is struggling despite Americans buying more guns at any time in American history because the hedge fund that bought them has saddled the company with a debt burden it cannot carry. These hedge fund managers leveraged the historic Colt name to take loans that they used to enrich themselves with. This iconic American brand will go into bankruptcy because its ownershiop borrowed money against the name to enrich themselves.

    • Sunshine_Shooter

      “…struggling despite Americans buying more guns at any time in American history…” that statement hasn’t been true since early November.

      • Gunga

        Colt started having problems carrying their debt and maintaining profitable operations before November 2016.

  • mxprivateer

    I bought a Series 70 1911 put together by Colt’s custom shop a couple years ago and it had multiple issues from the start. Poor fitment of parts, terribly uneven roll marks and a take down lever that would only go in halfway. I sent it back for rework and it took over 2 months to get it back. I thought it would have been a much better quality firearm given the $1000 price tag, but it made me realize that I was really only paying for the Colt name and not getting a quality reliable handgun. If my experience with Colt is the typical customer experience, it’s no wonder the company is struggling.

    • ostiariusalpha

      2 months would be pretty fast work for the recent Colt custom shop, they’ve had a reputation for taking several times longer than that to return a gun.

    • Nashvone

      I bought a Series 70 for my 45th birthday. It didn’t take me long to realize that my SA Range Officer, though costing hundreds less, is a much better pistol.

      • mxprivateer

        If I decide to get another 1911, Springfield will be the first I check out. I thought I’d be getting something extra with a US made genuine Colt, but sadly I didn’t.

  • Keith Cameron

    I haven’t seen a Colt 1911 that I would trade my Springfield Armory Range Officer for. Even if the Colt owner threw in some cash.

    • Baho Utot

      I don’t have a 1911 but I do have a Colt Army Special made in 1927 and I also have a 1873 Model P six gun. You can have my Colts when you pry them from my cold dead hands. I ain’t giving them up no way no how.

      • Paul White

        A gun produced in the 20s has zero bearing on their current quality though.

        • Baho Utot

          Your statement was you haven’t seen a Colt 1911 that you would trade or take from the trash. You do know that 1911 were made in the 1920’s don’t you. You said nothing about current production.

          • Suppressed

            Where did Paul say all that?

          • Paul White

            You yourself said your Army Special was made in the 20s. And their 1911s are fine but they’re not spectacular–but they sure charge like they are

  • codfilet

    Colt-haters rubbing their hands in glee…

  • scotty362100 .

    This is what happens to a company who bases their whole existence off of ludicrous Government contracts, and spent decades ignoring their civilian customer base! Government contracts disappeared and there is no real customer base to keep operations going- period! Their products are way overpriced, way overvalued and no place to go but downhill. Goodbye Colt

  • Stan

    I’d never buy a Colt product after experiencing, first hand, the “quality” of product provided to the military. My unit was forced to return EVERY M4 rifle shortly after initial issue due to multiple manufacturing issues that made the rifles unserviceable. Colt never publicly admitted fault but they absorbed the cost of replacement under threat of disbarment from future government contracts.

  • YoonYunsHadDerDayPal

    How to destroy an American manufacturing job:

    Step 1: Give the union limitless power
    Step 2: Be powerless to fire any union member who doesn’t take pride in his craft and continually puts out garbage.
    Step 3: Do not profit?

    • Rick O’Shay

      Unions didn’t kill Colt. Sucking off the government teat without innovating, did.

      • ostiariusalpha

        The UAW and Colt’s management together crippled Colt quite adequately in the 1980’s with their mutual stubborness. As a company, Colt has never recovered from that period.

      • BryanS

        Close enough…

    • RideTheLightning

      Seems like at least Colt learned how to fire people…though probably too little, too late.

    • Realist

      Step 4: Setup your business in an anti-2nd Amendment Democratically run state.

  • Bierstadt54

    Colt needs to be sold to people who love the history of the company and know what they are doing. Colt could be at least as big as any major firearms manufacturer if they focused on the market, not just military sales and some scraps for civilians.

  • Renov8

    Never understood the “haters” mentality on anything. For God’s sake, we are talking about inanimate objects. Talk about misguided energy……

  • Wang Chung Tonight
    • LCON

      I was waiting for the dead horse joke and you beat me to it…..

  • Hoplopfheil

    I think most people could predict this.

  • valorius

    Colt has been a disaster for close to 100 years.

  • sath

    You pay for the name/brand and it’s not worth it. A lot of competition out there for similar products that are as good or many times better at a lower cost.

  • Bill Kelly

    If they brought back the Python at a decent price, they’d have big sales. Their refusal to do so says that they aren’t serious about surviving.

    • Rick O’Shay

      It’d be virtually impossible for them to bring back the Python and have it be anything like the original. It’s not a matter of refusal to do so, it’s a matter of “that ship has sailed over 30 years ago.”

      • Pumpkin King XXIII

        I think it’s possible, with the close tolerances possible with well maintained Cnc equipment fitting would be greatly reduced. They should look at adopting a korth roller tigger design. Then they would have to train a butt load of polishers to give the quality finish that pythons had.

  • Audie Bakerson

    Colt hasn’t really ever been in good financially shape, so not a huge surprise.

    I’m surprised they gutted Colt Canada thought. I thought having an effective monopoly on Canadian police and military contracts they can charge crazy prices for would have at least made them of all Colt branches financially stable.

    • ostiariusalpha

      I have a post waiting on moderation elsewhere in the comment section, but part of what I mention there is that Colt did very well for itself financially in the 60’s, 70’s, and early 80’s; despite the trash talk that Ian McCollum gave to the Penn-Texas/Fairbanks-Whitney conglomerate in his recent video, they actually managed the company very well up to about the mid-to-late 70’s, when they stopped innovating in the civilian market. It was the idiotic tussle with the UAW union that killed their quality, and their profitability. Colt hasn’t ever recovered from that wound.

  • RSG

    If an established company couldn’t get “healthy” and right the ship over the last 8 years, then they are beyond saving. We saw an unprecedented explosion of firearms purchases during that time. That Colt didn’t garner a healthy share of those sales is their own fault. Period.

  • nova3930

    I’d bet that if Colt wants to survive they’re going to have to leave CT for more friendly locales….

  • Randy Cullinan

    Maybe if they relocate to the south, their reduced expenses and reduced regulations would allow them to flourish. I think the red part of the states would reward them for leaving Conn.

  • Brad

    Colt lived on government contracts for the most part. Everything else they sold to the public was part of the mystic of the “government brand”. The last new Colt product I bought was a Gold Cup back in 1984 and was better for use as a hammer than a competition pistol.
    They priced themselves out of the market a long time ago.

  • William Hess

    Put the company in bankruptcy, move to a right to work state with a better attitude towards firearms. Then restart production, sans union to be able to compete in the modern market.

    • baserock love

      Ah yes. Nothing attracts the best and brightest like significantly lower wages. I’m sure that would do wonders for their QC

  • David

    First off, CCS isn’t gutted. They are still operational, just without Brent at the helm. Second, it seems a little irresponsible for this blog to publish a public article stating that CCS is virtually S hut down without substantiating some facts.

    CCS is not taking new custom work orders and Brent is no longer a director/employed there. That is the extent of what we know.

    • Renov8

      There is a lot of hot air being spewed on this thread and its “hot air”….with no basis other than pure conjecture. Just because you say so, doesn’t make it true. This is directed at those with no basis to their comments. David…you are good.

  • ostiariusalpha

    The actual Colt UAW members lost plenty, their wages were lower after the strike, in addition to having to buy a chunk of Colt to save the company and their jobs. The corporate executives floated away on their golden parachutes.

  • Gus Butts

    Heads up: Nothing is going on with Colt Canada. They have literally just tooled up for the production of the C6A1 GPMGs and other firearms. Colt has nothing to do with Colt Canada over this matter and Colt Canada still has to produce weapons for the CF and all the other countries around the world.

    As always, this “breaking” news is dumb. Yours truly is also visiting Colt Canada next week, actually.

  • noob

    Will the custom shop reassemble and rise from the ashes as an independent company like Windham Weaponry?

  • Vitor Roma

    All Colt had was m4carbinenet fanboys bragging how the 6920 was the best rifle ever.

  • Pig Farmer Bill

    I hate to see people lose their jobs. Thank goodness Clinton is not in the WH, at least these folks will have decent opportunities. Colt makes fine firearms, but so does S&W, HK, Sig etc. I want a new Cobra this year. Maybe they are going to leave Hartford for a fresh start down south.

    • baserock love

      Ah yes, i remember how wonderful job opportunities were during the last republican administration.

      Then rotten old obama comes in and our unemployment drops 7 whole points to where it is now 🙁

      • Pig Farmer Bill

        If you want to lick obamas auhz that’s your choice. That MF destroyed this nation. Why do you think he lost 1000 seats for his party? He handed the White House to a TV personality. It’s fools like you that are the problem in this nation.

        • baserock love

          Haha, that’s cute bill. So you must not get the internet out on the pig farm.

          Can you name for me a single measurable metric of economic wellbeing that did NOT improve during obama’s tenure? Anything?

          GDP, unemployment, u3 unemployment, stock market, budget deficit anything, private sector job growth? If you actually grew an ounce of objectivity and looked at ANY of these you will not be able to give me the answer you want to hahaha.

          Oh but i forgot, you don’t get the internet down on the pig farm, you just heard that obama destroyed the country and uncritically believe it because you want to hahaha.

          • Pig Farmer Bill

            Your pathetic rant sums up your intelligence level. Well yes, I can answer your question. 1. If all the polices were so loved by the people why did the dems lose the House and the Senate, and the WH? 2. The massive QE under your fool is what has driven inflation up so high. 3. The debt doubled you eidiot. Obama spent more than all the other presidents combined. 3. The ACA has failed miserably, again if the people loved these polices so much Clinton would have won by a landslide. But she did not, Trump won states that are usually blue. 4. Small business were crushed under all the new regulations and the ACA. Why do you think so many companies are leaving the US? You just can’t stand the fact that the GOP is running the show now. So you go fug your mama some more on the dem farm. Punk!

          • baserock love

            +Pig Farmer Bill
            So apparently there weren’t any schools near the pig farm since you’re mentioning the debt. Here i’m about to give you a crash course in junior high level economics lol, going to try to not use any big words so you can follow haha.

            The debt comes from a budget deficit largely. When Obama took office, on day 1, he inherited a ONE POINT FOUR TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT.

            That means our debt increases at least 1.4 trillion dollars every year roughly. When George W Bush took office he had a budget SURPLUS, which means that our debt is going down each year. The drooling idiot you voted for in 2000, squandered a budget surplus and turned it into the biggest budget deficit a president has ever left office with the debt skyrocketed under bush.

            WHen obama LEFT office, he had reduced that budget deficit by over 2/3rds, that means our rate of debt accumulation roughly had been reduced by 2/3rds by the end of his term.

            So since you’re blaming him for the problem he inherited from the moron you probably voted for before him, who gutted our tax revenue then started 2 useless wars we had no way to pay for, you literally can’t answer the question i asked.

            It is a fact that all of the things i mentioned had exponential improvement during his administration.

            The rest of what you said are just non sequiturs because you couldn’t answer that question without conceding that obama didn’t ruin the country financially, basically everything improved exponentially during his tenure. Even the debt improved. A massive slowing of debt accumulation is the debt improving.

          • Pig Farmer Bill

            Save you bread punk, I’m not reading all your horse scheit. Why did the democrats lose over a 1000 seats under Obama? FYI I have a BS and always know when someone like yourself is full of scheit because they act like they are better then others. Go pass out Clinton stickers fug boy.

          • Secundius

            FOX News reported 1,061 Seats Lost! “The Washington Times”, a Conservative Newspaper in Washington, DC. in 14 November 2016. Placed a More Realistic Figure Total at ONLY 85 Seats: 53 in the US House of Representatives, 10 in the US Senate and 12 State Governor went Republican. ~12.48 Times Less than what FOX News Reported. FOX News, uses Paul Ryan’s “Infinite Improbability Mathematics” to Work the way they (FOX News and the Tea Party) see things…

          • baserock love

            Of course you’re not reading hahaha.

            If you read….ever, you wouldn’t be so grossly uninformed.

            FYI, not a democrat, not a clinton supporter lol. Sorry facts and reality make you so upset, i didn’t mean to trigger you so hard 🙂

  • LGonDISQUS

    “burn a significant amount of goodwill that Colt has built over the *rears* with its customer base”

    I only point it out because I like this site ❤💁

  • Oldtrader3

    Colt is America! They represent the innovation and moxie that made this country great! It would be a shame to allow the dissolution of this company and its disappearance forever? Colt needs to unpartner themselves from the UAW, move out of the gun unfriendly state of Connecticut, as most other fun company’s have. I own and have owned several Colts over the years and would very strongly like to see them succeed!

  • Andrew

    The custom shop closing hardly sounds like Colt is being “gutted.” Probably no more than a half dozen or so people in total. The custom shop was likely a money loser that was only being kept open because of nostalgia. It seems to me that the guy who ran the custom shop is exaggerating this “gutting” because he lost his job and is po’d.

  • John

    Perhaps Colt should be sold to the native tribes that want it.

    There would be a lot of money for genuine “Indian” guns that were produced under their administration.

  • AHill

    Ah so this is why Colt Canada had been in such a “rush” to greet the civilian market up here – probably a last ditch effort to try to save this part of company and at least make it self sufficient to avoid the axe.

  • LCON

    At this point I Think If Col. Colt turns anymore in his grave he will have done a full 540*

  • Bradley Kennedy

    Colt’s recent to decision to sell only to stocking dealers hasn’t helped. All it did was force higher prices on consumers which were already too high to begin with.

  • supergun

    Being in Hartford Conn. says it all.

  • Shawn Thompson

    posting a lot of bullshit rumor and calling it break news…. “gutted.. god forbid you wait for facts on this. a handful got let go over the custom shop being too slow.. colt canada has little to do with the condition of CT, Colt has been shocked by the over reaction of gun “journalists” making some industry normal lay offs. You guys really are like the CNN of the gun news sites here. its sad some guy talented guys had to be let go but it is what it is. The shattered logo really put you over the edge into CNN and huffingtonpost level reporting . I give you this, no one does click bait hyperbole like you guy though.

    • Renov8

      TFB has a way of sensationalizing stories and letting themselves get taken by it. Its not the first time and most likely won’t be the last.
      You guys are the CNN of gun news….and that is not a compliment.

      • Rick O’Shay

        Nah…. TTAG gets that dubious honor.

  • Edeco

    I’m not a fan of the bankruptcy laws we have. I’m not a bidness law entheusiast, it would give me no joy to go into detail, nor would what I say likely move a bidness/law professional. Not saying I’m not right, just don’t care to prove it.

    So to make a long story short; Carthago delenda est.

  • Todd Chrisman

    I’ve heard that SIG in Epping is struggling to find qualified people. I hope everyone affected by this finds good work quickly.

  • John Smith ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ

    Yeah, like the G36 the Bundeswehr can’t get rid of fast enough.

    • HIstoricalRecord

      You want some straight up truth, brother? The right arm of the free world was never the M4 or the M16, but rather the FN FAL, and when nations decided to shelve their FAL’s, they bought HK G3’s. The AR platform is just an average, so so, not so great platform that was forced upon the US army because of shady backdoor politics and American mercantilism, not because it was a good platform, not because it beat the FN FAL. How many nations adopted the AR platform and how many adopted the FN FAL or the mighty G3? The two European battle rifles are around yet today because of their merits, and the AR is only big because of ALL the wrong reasons.

      Ever notice that the new HK rifle that looks like an AR has been nipping at the heals of the AR for the US military contracts? That its considered a better rifle, and its very likely in the future it will supercede the traditional AR? That the delayed roller lock system guns, G3, HK 33 and MP5 are still being used for special purposes in many special units because they have qualities that make them good as or superior and can’t be replaced, even by the newer models meant to replace them? HK and FN build their own light machine guns, and what kind of light machine guns does the US use?

      The anti HK crowd loved the whole light barrel G36 problem because it was one of the few times everybody got the legitimate chance to kick them. Colt has been a walking corpse for the last 30 years, whilst the big national armories are looking pretty damn good. Hell, even Springfield, which was killed off and replaced by Colt, has risen from the grave, and looks better than the company that killed it. HK keeps winning world wide contracts, kicks ass, and Colt just keeps losing and losing.

      So, yes, attack the G36 for its flaws. Go ahead. Because its your biggest chance. The rest of their guns work, and western armies still see them as the best. With Colt, you can go, “Bankruptcy? Which one?”

      • John Smith ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ

        I own two and have no particular love for the AR or G3, both of which are inferior to the FN. That HK has a reworked AR as its latest and greatest says that their innovation is lacking as time progresses. Their latest handgun is essentially a Glock. Certainly no love for Colt either, other than their classic designs, which have been better than their execution for decades now.

        • Sean

          “Their latest handgun is essentially a Glock”

          H&K pioneered both polymer-frames and striker-based weapons before Glock even thought about building his 17.

          When Glock comes out with a fully ambidextrous model with 3 different backstrap combos, a paddle magazine release, top notch accuracy, front serrations, and doesn’t require trigger pull to disassemble, let me know.

          A Sigma or M&P is a Glock copy, but not an HK VP-series gun.

          • John Smith ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ

            I see those things you mentioned as distinctions without a difference. The original VP70 never caught on and the current version Volkspistole has a lot more in common with the Glock than it does its predecessor.

      • Sean

        You are so right. Anti-HK people are lining up to trash the G36 yet will defend Colt 24/7 and justify their current garbage Colt is pumping out.

        Besides, I don’t think there was any evidence to prove the G36 was inherently inaccurate. They traced it down to the ammo but then it appears the bad publicity dug a grave for the G36. And if H&K was so bad, why is the German army considering the HK433?

        For the U.S. being such a gun-rich country, it is amazing how we really don’t produce anything by a domestic company worth a darn. The 1911 is dead and only those over 50 will live and swear by them. The Glock, SIG, H&K, FN, Walther can eat any of Smith & Wesson’s offerings alive. Our special ops prefer non-U.S. offerings-FN SCAR, HK416 rifles with Glock and SIG sidearms.

        • frankspeak

          full of foreign parts anyway…

        • john huscio

          The afghans went with sigmas, not M&Ps.

      • Colonel K

        The FAL is my favorite 7.62 NATO rifle, but it is a battle rifle, not a true assault rifle. The Soviets and the US came to understand that lighter, quick-handling carbines beat a large heavy rifle (FAL, M14, G3) in most fighting scenarios. That’s why the 5.56 and 7.62×39 dominate the world’s armies today. In terms of ergonomics, the AR platform has not been surpassed by any other combat rifle.

        • Secundius

          British Manufacture? Or Commonwealth Manufacture? I prefer the British Manufacture, be the “Heftier Weight” Absorbs much of the Recoil…

          • Colonel K

            Of all the 308 battle rifles, I’ve found the FAL the most pleasant to shoot. I still can’t hit the damn wolves and coyotes out here with it, but that’s probably my aging eyes at work..

          • Secundius

            Same here on the Eyesight! But my Trusty M1E6 Garand or Bolt 98k “Solves That Problem”, without Problem…

          • Colonel K

            Oh, so maybe it is the rifle after all 🙂

          • Secundius

            Probably Not? I was issued the M16 in 1972, but ALL my Qualification Tests after that were using an M14 issued to me by my Base Commander for Personally working on his “Little Bird” (OH-6A). There were “Garands” in the Arsenal too, but those were there Mostly for Show. Or IF Anyone with “Clout” wanted to Hunting in the Back Wood of Hesse West Germany…

          • Colonel K

            The first rifle I was ever trained on was the M1 while in Junior High ROTC. We all managed to get an M1 thumb, but quickly learned how to avoid it. The next year we traded them for M14s, which were lighter when empty. Eventually, I bought a Korean era Garand, but didn’t shoot it much, so I got rid of it. A few years later a Vietnam vet Army SF O6 who was about to retire wanted a suppressed Ruger pistol I had, so I swapped him for his hand-built 308 match M1 which I still own. I never shoot the thing, but probably should.

          • Secundius

            I’s love to get an Original Pattern Beretta BM-59 in .30-06 with either 20 or 30-round M1918 BAR Magazine. But Hard to Find, and IF Found Very Expensive…

          • Colonel K

            I had two BM59s, one a parts kit gun made from a re-welded receiver that was incompletely finished. The other was a Golden State BM59 that worked but later blew out it’s rear receiver heel. Turned out it was a re-weld also, but one that had not been properly heat treated. From the ashes of both I built a BM59 that proved so cantankerous that I sold it. I should have bought one of the Springfield imports, but by then they had left a bad taste in my mouth and were also pricey. But they were handier than the M14. I think the new Springfield 18″ Squad Scout rifle would be a better deal today and still fairly handy. The 16″ SOCOM is just too short, if my AR10 carbine is any indicator.

          • Secundius

            My father had what he called his “Nut Gun” in November 1942 at the Battle of Tunis. An M1A1 Carbine that came up to his “Nut”s while at “Parade Rest”. Swapped it from a Sleeping Private that had a M1 Garand…

          • frankspeak

            should be more coming into the country soon…

      • Voice_of_Reason

        the AR platform is absolutely brilliant – it’s lightweight with a good balance of performance and costs significantly less than the HK 416 and variants.

        european weapons are and were over-rated, although here-and-there they had a best-in-class weapon.

        even back as far as World War II, no axis power had anything close to American heavy bombers, American aircraft carriers, long-range high-performance fighters such as the P-51, American machine guns were much more reliable and durable, American trucks were much more reliable and durable, and IMO the 1911 was the best pistol of that era.

        even German Tiger 1, Panther, and Tiger II tanks were over-rated because they were unreliable – and as a result thouands of them broke down in combat and got abandoned. The Sherman was no match for a Tiger one-on-one , but the Tiger was useless in a long, fast advance. It was really just a barely mobile strongpoint more than it was a tank.

        • frankspeak

          just a thick steel box wrapped around an 88…hard to beat that MG-42 though…firing one is a unique experience….

          • Voice_of_Reason

            If the Germans had been able to engineer the drivetrain of the Tiger 1 to make it reliable and provide tactical mobility, it would have been a great tank. But they couldn’t do it.

      • frankspeak

        always thought the AR’s were too “gadgety” and fragile..my HK has never jammed once and is as accurate as any of my sporting rifles

  • Mark_KTO

    Sad days. Lots of reasons, not the least of which is the “sitting on your laurels” syndrome.

  • carpkiller

    I know a lot of fellow gunowners and I have yet to hear of any of them buying a colt. There are too many perfect guns to buy that do not say colt but the average man can afford.

  • BrotherLazarus

    Alright, clearly the reading comprehension thing is an issue.

    So, here’s how the industry breaks down. Most manufacturers move product to a middleman organization of some form. These wholesalers then sell to, wait for it… major chains first. Small outfits, -especially- tiny family stores, are usually the last on the list for any popular or new product; thus they -don’t factor into the issue with availability at retail-.

    How this incredibly simple issue and concept is flying over your head to paint me as a bad guy, I don’t know. I can’t phrase it more simply without using pictographs. And I’m sure even then you’d miss the point and find a reason to complain. You strike me as nearly as abrasive as I am, I’m sure your local shops LOVE to work with you.

    • frankspeak

      quit screwin around and get your own FFL…last I heard they were easin’ up…

      • BrotherLazarus

        You mean the one where on top of the recent federal $3,000 “import protection” tax BS, you have to pay absurd amounts of liability insurance as dictated by local regulations? Bad thread necro is bad.

        • frankspeak

          no need to get in that deep…not sure where you live …but it’s not that bad around here…

  • Arty

    Colt locked out the small dealers by requiring a ludacris multi-gun purchase requirement plus “X” amount per year to be allowed to even purchase Colt products.
    The big wholesale suppliers can not sell Colt guns to small dealers unless they are on Colt’s authorized stocking dealer list. That’s the kind of marketing that lost Colt a huge number of sales and exposure to potential customers.

    Guy comes in and wants a Colt 1911. “Well,..I can’t get you a Colt as I don’t meet the requirements of a stocking dealer. How about this or that.” 15 min later.. one 1911 sold, but it wasn’t a Colt. This happens more in a month with Colt and a few other companies that have those crazy buy in requirements just to get permission to sell their product.

    They locked out product exposure, and sales with that program,

    If 100 mom and pop shops only sold one Colt each a year, that’s 100 sales per year. What Colt did was fix it so we couldn’t sell their product do to ” requirements”. That meant that instead of 100 colts being sold it was the competition getting the sales.

    Dear Colt,
    Not everyone buys guns at the Box Store. We weren’t asking to be given Gold Star dealer perks,stocking dealer discount, or the access to the few special editions . We wanted you to leave it so we could sell your standard production items. We can’t do that if we can’t get them.

    Thus hard times have befallen

    • survivor50

      Agreed. The single seller approach is deadly in every industry I’ve ever seen. YET… folks like Colt persist…kind of like Socialist scheme…just give me more, and it’ll work this time !!!

  • Jim Rossi

    I live in The Peoples Republic of Connecticut . I have Colt products and used them in the USAF, I’ve even been to the factory in West Hartford . The minute I heard about the new Cobra I tried to get one. No gun dealer in CT knew anything about them. One said he would try but getting stuff from Colt was hard. It’s been a month and still no word from him . That is Colt’s problem . You have people who want your product but can’t get it,either from strange business practices or socialist Democratic politicians who want to ban anything scary looking .

    • ostiariusalpha

      Uh, they haven’t actually released the new revolver yet, Jim. I understood from Shot Show that they would start coming out after mid-March.

  • T Rex

    Sad when you consider what might have been. But of course the only possibly cure for Colts demise is a time machine to be able to benefit from 20/20 hindsight.

    There are so many bone headed decisions and strategies by Colt corporate management over the last half century, but a prime example is the obstinate refusal to produce a 44 mag revolver in the 70’s & 80’s to compete with S&W who was selling their Model 29 & 629 by the train load. Instead Colt waited for the record demand to dry up and only then produced the Anaconda beginning in 1990.

    • frankspeak

      needed to have one of their guns “featured” in a movie….

  • Humpy

    Colt products are overpriced and frankly their quality is not what it used to be

  • Bigg Bunyon

    All this seems to “co-witness” perfectly with their new $800 .38 snubby made by Taurus. Or is it made by Charter Arms? Seems like a mighty high price for having the pony emblem on a Taurus look alike … or a Charter. Whatever, just seems odd to me looking at that gun and then my old Anaconda. More marketing genius from Colt. They’ll likely sell every one they can make, but then I know people who still think a high price means high quality; they seem to love the Cabela’s store here.

  • The_Champ

    Not sure how I feel about gun owners virtually cheering for a gun company to fail. If they have problems shouldn’t we hope for them to improve rather than crash and burn?

  • Glenn

    Does Eddie Lampert have a brother who’s in charge of Colt ? Sounds like the same death spiral to me.

  • Sean

    You could not have said it better. I work at a gun store and can sell 4 H&Ks per day because people understand their quality, ergonomics, accuracy, and reliability, even though they are high priced (except the VP series). Same goes with SIG or Glock.

    Lets see what Colt offers: single action revolvers, 1911s, questionable quality ARs, and other “old man” guns.

    I will never forget when we got two 6920 in FDE finish and both rifles had dozens of hairline paint cracks all along where the upper meets the lower. This was in 2012. An M45 we got showed more wear after racking the slide 50 times that a Glock will ever show in 15 years. It is unarguable that Colt quality has dropped and is NOWHERE near what they were in the late 80s and before. Their Mustang was a giant, unreliable POS.

    Patriotism and the 1911 following is not enough to keep a company like Colt alive. Firearm companies need innovation and develop products that the public can connect with.

    Besides, comparing a modern-day Colt with an H&K is like comparing a Buick to a Mercedes/BMW. I have never had anyone under 50 years old request a Colt as their first choice. So demographics have to do with their downfall a lot as well.

    • bob

      You are correct to note the 80’s and before. Colt went on strike which lasted years. Management brought in Scabs with little or
      no experience which became the bench mark work force. By the time the strike most skilled workers had moved on.

      • XRGRSF

        Let’s try to get one thing right: Scabs are union people who cross a picket line while Rats are non-union workers. Please don’t insult Rats by calling them scabs.

      • Secundius

        After 2008, Virtually Every US Small Arms M16/M4 type Manufacturer went Mil-Spec and Stopped manufacturing Mil-Std (“Profit Over Quality”). That was the “Death Nail” in the US Small Arms Manufacturers Future, NOT “Scab” Labor.

        NO US M16/M4 manufacturer has Won a US Military Government Contract since 2007. The ONLY company to Come Close was Colt’s Manufacturing, which at least Survived the First Phase of the Competition…

      • Pistolero

        You say that Colt brought in “scabs” to work while the union was on strike. What did you expect them to do, shut down entirely?

      • Loog Moog

        Unions are worse than scabs. They are street gangs in the workplace.

        • Secundius

          Iron Workers Union 101. American Made…

        • frankspeak

          they wouldn’t exist if there wasn’t a need for them…that being said,..they need to understand when a company’s close to folding..

    • Hervoyel

      Hey, hey. hey! I’m an “old man” and I won’t pay for Colt’s name on any old crap. They don’t make old man guns. They make “stupid old man guns”

  • Steve Slater

    Well they’re in CT. Not much common sense. They need to hire a CEO with some brains and balls and move out of the libtard union northeast.

  • Michael Broughton

    Connecticut…IS the problem and those that THINK like them are never the solution. Anyway, didn’t I read last year that Colt was leaving New England? Apparently not fast enough.

  • David J. Stuehr

    Colt has been mailing it in for years. Way over-priced variants of widely available products.
    And the ccw market does not respond well to new manufactured antiques.
    If colt hoped to continue making antique designs, why not corner the cowboy market with affordable quality pistols and push out the Italians. WWII re enactors should be able to buy a colt without plastic parts at a competitive price. Btw Winchester designs and tooling may also be available and many of those were reliable sellers.
    Everyone makes reliable and affordable ARs AND 1911s so either make something better at a better (or even a competitive) price or make a premium product that the masses will buy. Colt will never corner the market making a mediocre product at two or three times the price of established competitors. Colt will never beat glock at being glock or out HK, at being HK.

    Colt will never touch smith on revolvers or come close to Ruger or even budget Taurus for quality and price range.
    Sad to see another American icon driven into the ground by douche-bags with MBAs. Hoping for govt contracts to keep the company afloat is lazy and ain’t wirkin’

  • CompletelyOutsane

    Colt has been mismanaged and sold and screwed over so many times I’m surprised there is anything left.

  • Doug Wicker

    Anyone paying attention to how Sciens Capital was running Colt into the ground pre-bankruptcy had to know that this was going to happen post-bankruptcy if Sciens retained control.

    Which, unfortunately, they did.

    • J.E.Walker

      True as true gets. Unfortunately, not everyone will take the time or make the effort to understand this. It was the money people that destroyed Colt. They will blame other factors and that’s a shame. Raising Colt from the ashes yet again will require a full revamp. It can never be successful again with a crushing financial burden put on it that it never deserved.

  • bob

    I think it is great news ! Colt remained in one of the most liberal, anti gun States in the U.S.
    They pay lots of Tax $$ to Connecticut to aid the Governor’s anti gun agenda .As long as they refuse to move to a more gun friendly State, I refuse to buy their products ! Anything Colt makes, someone else makes ,probably better and less expensive.

    • survivor50

      Move to TEXAS, and let us show you “Gun Friendly”…
      BUT !!! You’re going to have to leave your voting habits behind…

  • Guido FL

    As long is operating in the high rent & tax district they will never recover with such a high burden rate. Manufacturing has been leaving New England for these reasons for many years.

  • Mike Lashewitz

    Why do I get a Bloomberg feeling over this?

  • tarnishedcopper

    I have never owned a Colt because of their outrageous pricing and exceptionally long wait time for delivery. I have fired and kept a friends 6 inch “old School” Python for quite a while and I will say it was a superb firearm. I remember becoming a cop in 1979 and a few cops carried Pythons daily. I carried a stainless S&W mod. 66 that cost $175.00, while their Colts were $400-$500 even back then. The quality must go in before the name and sticker price goes on. I’ve also fired a number of Official Police and Police Positive revolvers and found them not worthy of consideration.

  • Mikial

    A sign of the times. It used to be that most of the guns sold in the USA came from only a few manufacturers like Colt, Winchester and Remington. But that all changed with the virtually explosion of gun manufacturers and importers that give us a choice of a lot of great guns at decent prices. Companies like Colt simply failed to read the times and continued to try to make it with their old standby models and their name. Consequently, they didn’t stay competitive, and when that happens quality and innovation begin to slip. Look at all the problems Remington has been having with faulty triggers and recalls, and look at how far Colt has fallen.

  • Colonel K

    HR, one of my jobs in the USAF involved learning about foreign training and manufacturing techniques, primarily European (German and Swiss), Russian, and Japanese. So while I don’t completely disagree with your analysis, you paint with a very broad brush. We still make and export high quality merchandise and tools, while
    simultaneously importing a lot of junk for domestic consumption
    (originally of Japanese origin, now mostly Chinese). That is the
    consumer’s choice; it is not forced on them. America remains a highly productive and competitive country, and is far more efficient than the vaunted Japanese. Indeed, the Japanese learned their modern techniques from an American named W. Edwards Deming after WWII. And the Japanese were the ones who introduced their revised techniques to European manufacturers in later years.

    Europe has long prided itself on the quality of many of its manufactured goods, but what was often lacking was precision. I use the term in its scientific sense, that is, the ability to repeat the same result without a good deal of hand fitting. This is where the master craftsmen come in. They have the skills to make disparate parts fit. In the USA we long ago abandoned the inefficiencies of such a system and settled instead on a system of gauges and mass production techniques that rapidly produced products which were both of high quality and affordable. As CNC machines and robotic instruments replace assembly line workers, higher tolerances approaching those of the master craftsmen are now possible, and every industrialized country is taking that path. There will still be a place for craftsmen, but the cost of their work will only be affordable to the few who occupy the highest rungs of society and wealth.

    The rest of the world has been slowly catching up with us for decades,
    and in some cases has surpassed us, which I view as a good thing, since variety and competition are the
    driving forces of good capitalism.

    As for education, unlike many European countries, we do not force children into different career paths at an early age. They are free to graduate from high school, go to vocational school, continue on to college, learn a skill through on the job training, or self-teach themselves (the school of hard knocks).

    I don’t know why you think we look down on our own working class. In America anyone can rise from the gutter or fall into it, only to rise again. It’s their choice. Certainly you can cite examples of failure, just as I can cite examples of success. Nothing is static here for very long, so neither success or failure are guaranteed permanent states of existence, even in Detroit. Change is the only constant, and in a nation of 320 million souls, stretching a continent and breaching two oceans, with temperate climates, vast natural resources, and a broad network of commerce, anything is possible as long as we remain free to choose or individual destinies.

    • frankspeak

      except that they are being coerced to make what, for them,..may be the wrong choice…still remember a video I once saw of a ferrari assembler taking a fender outside and beating it into shape over a log!….

  • JohnnyCuredents

    Just as an aside, but perhaps a revealing one, take a look at the full-page ad for the Cobra in a recent edition of American Rifleman. The center photo near the bottom shows us a guy about to pull the Cobra’s trigger….and to lose his thumb in the process. He’s holding it as though it were a semi-auto, thumb right beside the front of the cylinder where it will soon be the recipient of all the escaping hot gasses.

    • frankspeak

      one of those “guess what happens next” moments!…

  • Voice_of_Reason

    Colt was rumored to be on death watch a few years ago, as a result of two major management failures (along with other smaller ones): 1 – a decade or two of focusing on government contracts and being somewhat hostile to gun rights, and 2 – corporate management that borrowed heavily and lined their pockets, but didn’t invest the money in new products or new facilities.

    it’s a shame watching the old-line company that was once the standard bearer of the world self destruct. i hope they can pull off a “come from behind” victory.

    I own 5 Colt pistols, and it would be sad to see Colt die off or become just a name bought out by someone else.

  • Rory Gibbons

    Sad but Colt did this to itself when it abandoned it’s civilian and police markets for the military, that coupled with Union demands and concessions has ruined a great company Smith & Wesson might survive with the “police market.” but all these goddamn stainless revolvers need to be minimized the blued steel revolvers should be common again, thieve lost a lot of customers for their “new market.” Blued Steel S&W Revolvers “used.” are rising rapidly in price with common old service grade .357 Highway Patrol modes selling near to a $1000.00 now

  • Voice_of_Reason

    those European “masters” made some very one-dimensional weapons that couldn’t really impact the outcome of WWII. for example, a jet fighter with no range that was easy to destroy when it had to land. or heavy tanks that were unreliable and too expensive and time-consuming to build in sufficient quantity.

    • Sean

      Germany’s advances in weaponry, aircraft, and tanks far surpassed US, Soviet, and any other country.

      They gave us the first jet-powered aircraft (Messerschmitt Me 262), the first cruise missile, the first ballistic missile, world’s first assault rifle (Stg 44), and I can give dozens of more examples.

      I do not know which jet fighter that had no range you are referring to. If you are referring to the Tiger heavy tank, its 88mm gun could destroy any Allied armor, its thick armor was basically indestructible, It did weight a ton, used too much gas, and not very reliable but this is kinda a given for a “heavy tank.” The Tiger/Tiger II were the best overall heavy tanks of WWII.

      When you design a weapon system or combat vehicle that is 10-40 years ahead of its time, you are bound to have reliability or development problems, but hey everything has a beginning. Thanks to the Nazis, we got to the moon (Wernher von Braun.)

      It is amazing how a country half the size of Texas got so far when half the world was fighting them.

      I really don’t understand your “one-dimensional” claim. Are you referring to Germans or French/Italian?

      • Voice_of_Reason

        one dimensional: Tiger tank, which was essentially immobile, as I pointed out. The tiger was had some success slowing the Russians for a time but useless to stop the fast moving American advance. it wasn’t an advanced tank at all, it was just big.

        Me 262 jet fighter which was essentially immaterial to the outcome of the war and had very short range.

        Sure, the Germans had some technology breakthroughs, but you don’t seem to recognize that the Americans and even the Brits had MORE technology breakthroughs. The Germans had some best in class weapons types, but so did the allies.

        the Germans were unable to figure out how to make a useful heavy bomber.

        they were unable to figure out out the secret to the P-51’s performance and range, although they tried. The Bf-109 and FW-190 were slower and more importantly had short range, and the Germans never caught up once the Merlin engined Mustangs were fielded. the Germans lost the battle of britain early on because short range spitfires were fighting short range Bf-109s over the Spitfires’ home turf.

        The Germans could not make an aircraft carrier.

        German radar was inferior.

        Yes, they invented the first cruise missile, the first ballistic missile, and the first assault rifle. all breakthroughs, but we invented the nuke!

        • frankspeak

          virtually all of germany’s major surface ships failed to survive the war…and an aircraft carrier would have fared no better..and as for heavy bombers, they made a calculated decision that they did not need them..although they were on the drawing boards…

          • Voice_of_Reason

            they not only had heavy bombers on the drawing board, they tried and FAILED to produce one called the He-177, but the engines often overheated and caught fire making it too unreliable for combat.

      • Secundius

        Unfortunately, both the Soviet Union and the United States. Produced in the Tens of Thousands, Nazi-Germany only produced in the Low End of the Single Thousands Range. After a while, “Quantity that on a Quality of its own”…

        • Voice_of_Reason

          and yet much of the American equipment produced by the end of the war was not just quantitatively superior, but qualitatively superior as well.

          • Secundius

            Maybe YES in some Theaters, and Maybe NO in Others? The Japanese “Chrome Lined” ALL their Gun Barrels from 1937 to Throughout the War. From Hand Guns to 18.1-inch Naval Artillery Guns. The Japanese Invented “7075” series Aluminum in 1934, the USA used “6061” series Aluminum Throughout the War Years. The Japanese used “Vickers Steel” (High Chromium and Nickel content) on their Naval Ships which was 35% Stronger than US made “RHA” Steel. The “Burlington” (Chobham) Armor of WW2. German U-Boots could dive to a depth of 1,000-feet, where US Sumbarines could Only Dive to a Maximum of 300-feet. Where the US produced Thousands of types of Rifle Ammunition, the German Only Produced ONE, the 7.92×57. Simplifying Logistics. And BOTH the Germans and Japanese developed their Own “Atomic Bomb” Programs. Japan Had TWO U-235 Atomic Bombs in 12 August 1945. A “Real Game Changer” if the War lasted beyond 1946…

          • Voice_of_Reason

            so the Japanese chrome-lined the barrels of really poor firearms. Japanes rifles, pistols, and tanks were all inferior to American arms.

            And the Yamamoto had steel far inferior to the Iowa class battleships, and Japanese submarines were pretty awful and ineffective, even if they had the largest sub if the war. In fact, the steel on British ships was often brittle. So much for the vaunted “vickers steel”.

            German subs were definately the best, but so what. Once we learned how to fight them, and the brits cracked enigma, the casualty rate among the German subs went up to something like 80%. The vaunted German battleships and “pocket battleships” accomplished little. By the end of the war the Iowa class was superior in speed, firepower, fire control ( each turret had dedicated radar gun aiming), damage control, and at least equal armor to the Bismarck and Tirpitz. The Iowa class was so far superior to the Yamamoto that even its 16 inch guns were superior to the Yamamoto’s 18 inchers.

            By the end of the war, nearly every American weapon was far superior to its axis counterpart.

          • Secundius

            You were Comparing Quality of Military Equipment Produced during the Second World War. ALL Combatant had BOTH “Bad” and “Good” Equipment, Including the United States. American Alaska class Battlecruisers accomplished FAR LESS then what the Germans were using. The British DIDN’T “Crack” Enigma? The “Poles” did, by Polish Mathmatician Marian Rejewski with the aid of Cryptanalysts Jerzy Rozycki and Henryk Zygalski in 1932…

          • Voice_of_Reason

            not really sure what your first sentence is driving at. as for your third sentence, we shall so stipulate for the sake of argument a
            that Poles cracked enigma and not Alan Turing – so what??

          • Secundius

            There were Smart and Stupid people on Both Sides of the War Effort…

          • Voice_of_Reason

            well, of course.

          • frankspeak

            …actually,..they did…

          • Voice_of_Reason

            Ok, so?

          • frankspeak

            just a point of clarification…the brits always seem to get all the credit for this…..

          • frankspeak

            not so sure about that..you’d have to cite some examples….

          • Voice_of_Reason

            easy.

            P-51C and D were markedly superior to the Fw-190, Bf-109, and Japanese fighters in speed and range, except the obsolete Zero had good range but was so much slower that it was a grape for the picking for a Mustang. The Mustang was more maneuverable in most measures than the German fighters, too. No Axis power had anything remotely approaching the Mustang’s combination of range and speed, which meant that the allies could dominate the skies from bases out of range of their opponents.

            No axis power had a bomber even remotely approaching the B-29 (well, no allied power did either).

            No axis power had a battleship even remotely approaching the Iowa class. It was faster, had better targeting (radar fire control for each turret allowed night firing,for example), better damage control, and more firepower than the bismarck or even Yamamoto.

          • frankspeak

            …no argument there…but I was referring to tanks…

          • frankspeak

            and those Iowa’s were FAST!…father- in- law was on one of those destroyers involved in the escort relays when the Iowa ferried FDR across the atlantic…could barely keep up with it!…and my cousin got a chance to work a temporary detail on the New Jersey when it was put back in service..and sailed from philly to san diego..on its way to vietnam…and later got to watch its main batteries in action from the deck of his destroyer off the coast…still talks about those big guns!

          • Voice_of_Reason

            Valid point, Sherman tanks were in inferior in armor and anti-armor firepower to late war German tanks.

            But Sherman tanks were not exactly comparable to the late German tanks. They were good at different things.

            Sherman tanks were superior to German tanks in tactical and strategic mobility.

            tigers, king tigers, and even Panthers would have not been able to be shipped in required quantities across the ocean and then drive themselves on the fastest armored advance of WWII.

            the M-26 started fielding shortly before the war ended, and it matched or exceeded the Tiger in protection and firepower while being more mobile.

          • Secundius

            Not many T26E3’s (M26)! Of the 320 that were sent to Europe in April 1945, Only 20 saw action and were equipped with the 53-caliber Tank Barrel. The 75mm Sherman had to get within 800-yards to make a “Kill Shot” of a Tiger I. And for the 76mm T-34 worse still, “Kill Shot” range for the 76mm T-34 was only 600-meters…

          • Voice_of_Reason

            yes, no doubt. but think about this: the M26 production was able to be ramped up to the tens of thousands if needed if the war continued, and it was equal or better than the Tiger. Tiger production was maxed out; in fact as far as King Tigers are concerned they only built 400 or so total.

            In Korea, the M26 quite easily crushed the T-34/85.

          • Frank Pienkosky

            yeah,..good at burning too…with their gas powered engines…not for nothing the germans referred to them as “Ronsons”….

          • john huscio

            Kind of hard to maintain quality control when your being bombed into the stone age……

        • frankspeak

          true, but winning by attrition frequently has a high human cost….

      • frankspeak

        the 262’s were usually destroyed by roving allied fighters..such as the p-51’s with their longer range that followed them back to their bases and took them out as they attempted to land…and as for the “indestructible” tigers..they were easily taken out by p-47’s and other ground attack aircraft…..

        • Voice_of_Reason

          a Tiger or King Tiger broken down and abandoned because they can’t tow it away is an easy victory for the Allies, too.

        • glenn cheney

          I served the Tuskegee Airmen in late 90’s, early 2000’s. They shot the first ME 262 down, true, sorties caught many returning to airfields, but many were destroyed by tactics.
          Their cannons chewed thru 8th Army Air Force formations.
          At war’s end, many German pilots were dead, leaving less skilled pilots.
          Lack of petrol was a severely limiting factor.

      • glenn cheney

        Lack of a four engine bomber cost Germany the Battle of Britain, that and failure to continue to hit Brit coastline radar.
        German aircraft had approximately 15 minutes fuel over target. Their advances in aviation engineering was ahead of time, but not yet ready for prime time metal alloys required premature engine replacement due to the alloys available.
        Their 38 degree wing sweep remains to this day the general constant.
        Lack of a four engine bomber cost them as well. Hitler was a hands on arms dude. German aircraft were designed to wage war in a smaller radius than crossing the channel and back.
        Toward the war’s end, multi engine long range aircraft were on the drawing boards to reach New York and D.C., the payloads the products of heavy water h3o.
        German engineering and tooling has always been their forte, I collect Quick fishing reels, except for positive anti reverse, they are from the 60’s and I have many, all superior in gear strength to today’s stuff.
        Had Germany waited to hit Poland, had perfected the atomic bomb and long range bombers, the outcome would have been different.
        Lost of his army at Staligrad, no winter clothing, and the seige would never have been necessary, carpet bombing would hav ed gotten things over in weeks, months instead of years.
        Two fronts, lack of logistical support and critical supplies of petrol doomed them to defeat, but it took several year for America to gear up production, draft and train a military and enjoin the struggle.
        Germany, with pstience, could have won.
        Brits were ahead on jet aircraft development in their own t ight

        • Frank Pienkosky

          roll’s engine deal for the mig 15 was supposedly decided by the outcome of a billiards game..believe the russkies designated their version of the B 29 the Tu-4..even flew them over moscow..yeah,..know about FiFi..walked the interior of Bock’scar in dayton..and got to see that politically correct version of the Enola Gay in DC…heard the B 29’s had a lot of problems with their engines initially but were still rushed into production…very interesting aircraft …although clearly vulnerable in korea..to that very same mig 15…

          • glenn cheney

            I’m kinda sitting back, enjoying the history buffs, at least they haven’t broken into WWIII.
            Last summer, I had built, a sniper grade Wlyde 1/8 T, 416R, stress relieved billet upper, s.s. gas block w/custom three ported evil looking muzzle break by Charles of KM Tactical, ADK trigger by Jesse near Chicongo, great trigger tweeker’s for a retired Lady A.F. whose direct relative was Charlie Sweenie, who piloted Bock’s Car and did Nagasaki……I presented her with one of two autographed murals enlarged from photos, this one of FIFI, low on the deck south bound from Daytona to either Space Coast Melbourne or West Palm Bch.
            Bob Robbins flew her to Daytona, was not in the left seat on the dead head south.
            He started the Commemorative Air Force Wing in Florida after I procured the package from the Dixie Wing in Atlanta.
            Seems I thought I was going to be a wing commander, lmao.
            The qual’s defied astronaut! I turned it over to Bob, and as always, things got done.
            My friend Tom Cloyd practicing stalls in Devil dog crashed and perished, a Marine pilot, that was the last time Wing Commader and in charge left seat were held by both. I’ve flown in most everything but that two seater P-51 and believe it or not, the B-17, those remain on the bucket list.
            My most coveted enlargement, was a beautiful Texas to Florida run at altitude over the Gulf of Mexico, signed in lower corner right side, “Robert M. Bob Robbins” and counter signed on the other side by Brig. Gen. Paul Tibbets, who never signed anything not of his authorship.
            I have some awesome video of on-board FIFI flights. The best with Texas’ Charles Tilghman, check ride pilot for Southwest Air at the time. I was allowed to remain in the nose, only glass under me in the bombardier’s seat as we landed in Valdosta, Ga. No seatbelts, non-authorized FAA configuration.
            The B-29 was very vulnerable to Mig cannon fire, Bob was the test pilot for Boeing for the B-47, two years after WWII’s end…THEN AMERICA was kick ass on top…A. F. loved it, said “tastes like more” come back with double down on everything, and the took Bob out of the cocpit, and he became the Senior Project Eng. for the B-52.
            He’s Carnegie Management Institute, MIT, and held FAA Mechanic’s License. He was in his 80’s and still retained current FAA multi-engine quals.
            I was cent. Florida’s poimt man for years for the Tuskegee Airmen. Lots of really great men, who had to literally “fight, for the RIGHT, to party” as the song says.

    • frankspeak

      …or the king tiger that never saw a bridge it couldn’t crush!..

  • dltaylor51

    Colt will survive somehow,the Colt name is worth to much.

  • ciscokid3750

    When a gun company suddenly starts selling only to large stocking dealers its a sure sign they are on the rocks. When Colt a short time ago announced they were doing this I knew it was only a matter of time before they were going to shut down all together. Lets face facts if Colt had not cheapened all of their guns and stuck to producing quality firearms they would still be making lots of money. When outfits like Les Bair and Wilson can make pistols and sell them in the $3,000 dollar range Colt could have made them for far less and made a killing but it never occurred to the Morons running Colt just to raise the price a little to cover the cost of quality parts.

    The other problem was overpaid CEO’s who were only interested in raping the company profits and then moving on to another job after they destroyed the Company.

    Smith never quit making revolvers and Colt should not have either. Colt had a lot of good things going for it like their pocket .380 guns which could have also later been updated to fire the 9mm round. Other companies did what Colt did not and are still doing it and making money. There was no one at Colt running it that knew anything about firearms whatsoever. Would you hire a taxi cab driver to fix your computer? Well Colt hired CEO’s that knew nothing about firearms and only knew how to steal money from the company and run.

  • George Carnahan

    Superbly stated and sadly very true.

  • Sean

    I agree 100%. A good example is modern day U.S.-made Sig Sauers compared to German/W. German-made Sig Sauers.

    Buddy has a P226 W. German made in ’89. He has over 30,000 rounds through it. It has never malfunctioned, even once or had any issue at all. The barrel/slide lockup has absolutely no play and the balance on it is perfect. It almost feels and looks too well made for a duty/military sidearm.

    Now don’t get me wrong, I love the modern day Sigs as they are still generally reliable, well built, and accurate shooters but I know that the ones made in Germany/W. Germany has an extra level of finishing and Q.C. that cannot be surpassed today.

  • frankspeak

    now that seemingly everyone and his brother is making AR-15’s that’s gotta’ affect the bottom line!…

  • frankspeak

    Henry might be the exception…at least they claim to be…

  • frankspeak

    frequently see that attitude exemplified in the anti-trump trolling sites such as the washington post..where they somehow think their vote should count more than yours because they’re “educated”…and are having real problems coping with the elections outcome…instead of rolling up their sleeves and getting busy trying to elect someone they prefer, they seem clueless….college isn’t for everyone..and instead of bettering their lives..it just saddles them with a crushing debt…I truly believe it’s a con-job and a scam perpetuated by the banks and the universities…

  • Leigh Rich

    Perhaps they are going bankrupt again? If so the revolvers will be short lived.

    • Secundius

      It’s gotten to the point, where Colt’s Manufacturing is “Nothing More” than a Part Supplier to “Other” Gun Manufacturers…

  • Colonel K

    I always enjoy intelligent discourse. The mindset you describe is prevalent, but not all encompassing. I wouldn’t worry even if it were. When one wants to eat and either isn’t satisfied with a menial government handout, or the handout is no longer there, then even the intelligentsia will roll up its sleeves and get its fingernails dirty. Otherwise, they will starve. We aren’t at that point yet precisely because the nation is still so productive. When one considers how few people it takes today to farm, ranch, manufacture, and distribute goods and services, its understandable how so many others can remain unproductive or under-productive. The danger does exist that these “47 percenters” may vote us into poverty, at which point Atlas may well shrug. No such state of affairs can long endure; otherwise history would be static instead of in a constant state of upheaval and change. Those who can read the winds of change will be able to guide a better course for themselves. Those who cannot or do not, will be at risk. It was always so from the time Eve offered Adam the apple of knowledge.

  • Archie Montgomery

    Bummer. I’ve never had much use for Colt’s double action revolvers, but the standard Government Model is beyond reproach generally.
    However, buyer’s tastes and economic conditions change. Keeping up can be a difficult task for a manufacturing company.

  • john huscio

    Colt canada is the only branch of the colt family making capable worthwhile guns. If they could export just the C7/C8 uppers complete with those awesome thick canadian barrels, much less complete rifles to the US, they’d be in the black in no time.

  • john huscio

    If I want a good kitchen knife I get a sabatier from France or a Pino from Italy or something from sheffield.

  • Brennan Graves

    Who?