BREAKING: Russian “Molot” is Bankrupt and will be Sold

According to Russian newspaper “Kommersant“, Russian firearms manufacturer “Molot” is announced to be sold. The famous arms plant, which is well known in the USA by its “VEPR” brand became bankrupt five years ago. Since then it’s been under control of a bankruptcy managing company.
The premises, equipment and intellectual property will all be auctioned as a single lot. According to the bankruptcy manager, the value of mentioned assets is 1.5bln rubles, which is roughly equal to $26 million. However, that sum won’t cover the debts of the company, which is 2.4bln rubles ($41 million). The number of eligible companies to take part in the auction is limited and it will be hard to find a buyer. In order to participate in the auction, a company must have a firearms manufacturing license and be able to keep the company running after the acquisition. The latter is a requirement to ensure that the company will keep manufacturing its products among which there are Russian government contracts, too. Russian financial analysts and defense specialists say, that right now only Kalashnikov Concern is truly capable of buying the Molot.

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The assets of Molot include 91 buildings, 12,890 pieces of equipment and machinery, 13 patents, 16 registered brands etc.

The initial bankruptcy process started as a result of a lawsuit initiated by the metal supplier of Molot in 2012. Also, the lack of sufficient amount of government contracts, the decrease of civilian market sales and problems with exporting eventually made the company bankrupt.

In case if the company ceases its operations, it will be disastrous for the town it is located in (Vyatskie Polyani). Molot has about 3500 employees and it is the main employer of the town.

Many thanks to Luke Williams for the tip!



Hrachya H

Being a lifelong firearms enthusiast, Hrachya always enjoys studying design, technology and history of guns and ammunition. His knowledge of Russian allows him to translate and make Russian/Soviet/Combloc small arms related information available for the English speaking audience.
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  • Cedar_92

    So if KC buys molot, does that mean they will be hit with sanctions too?

    • max

      yes

    • Tritro29

      KC can’t buy Molot As they have 2.6 bln rubles of debt themselves (bar the debt that has been cleared from the state and slashed through privatization. Rostec (Russian state) could buy it. Which means Sanctions as well.

    • Minuteman

      Our own ass-hatted foreign policy at work, gentlemen.

  • Youtube’s Best Channel

    Who cares anyway? Like there’s not enough AK-based stuff in the US.

    • Bean Guy

      A lot of people care. VEPRs are solid pieces of equipment – not to mention these are people who might lose their jobs.

      • Vepr AKs are so good that Arsenal had to introduce an $850 SLR-107 to stay competitive.

    • pun&gun

      Most American AKs still suck, AFAIK.

      • Youtube’s Best Channel

        Really? I thought that free market forces companies to do their best. So, maybe someone does care about it.

        • pun&gun

          Sanctions and import bans are hardly a free market. As it happens, the AK design works best with hand fitting by knowledgeable people. It’s not designed around precision machining like the AR. American labor is just too expensive relative to what Russia can offer, and attempts to make AKs in ways that cater to American strengths haven’t been very successful yet.

          • Minuteman

            American’s are incapable of making AKs. We’re the AR-15 nation.

          • pun&gun

            We *can* make them; Definitive Arms and Krebs prove that. We just can’t seem to make them in a manner that’s cost effective.

          • Minuteman

            No we cannot. Krebs and DA are small business that buy/import and alterate/refine exisiting samples. They aren’t geared towards production because they lack large scale manufacturing capability. They are gun smiths, not manufacturers.

          • Alexandru Ianu

            They may not be, but there are more manufacturers now and quality has gone up. 3 countries have and will continue to export AK rifles, and Russian AKs aren’t necessarily the best out there. The US market has developed mostly on Chinese/Romanian/Bulgarian AKs anyway.

            I would be nice to see the 89 ban lifted to ease 922r costs.

          • john huscio

            Krebs doesn’t “make” rifles.

          • Minuteman

            DDI also tried, and they failed even before they barely started! I don’t think POF will leave DDI’s assets in tact. POF simply has more capability.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Invading your neighbors, committing war crimes, waging cyber war and taking a hostile military posture towards NATO are the reason for sanctions.

          • pun&gun

            It’s within government prerogative. I personally don’t see the need for America to interfere in other countries’ business unless it starts affecting our safety, but I’m not inherently anti-sanction. It *is* a limitation imposed on a free market, though.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Russian aggression in Eastern Europe affects our safety when we are obligated by treaty to defend any NATO member attacked by Russia.
            Sanctions hopefully limit their ability to do so.

          • Minuteman

            Russia didn’t attack anybody, including NATO. But yeah, Russia is a threat according to your logic right? Simply because they decided to somehow place themselves right in the middle of our 900 overseas bases. And FYI: NATO expanded Eastwards, Russia didn’t exand Westwards. So who’s threatening who?

            You do realize that our own foreign policy is threatening our own gun market? These sanctions and import bans most definitely don’t help us. It is not in the interest of the American gun owner to mess with Russia.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            You are seriously smoking crack.

          • Minuteman

            No dude, you drank too much of the Reagan kool-aide and are clearly incapable of thinking for yourself. It’s called academic criticism. Look it up, it’s in the dictionary. Secondly, you obviously do not understand the foundations of our country (being weary of government, keeping it in check, remaining vigilant about our own governments actions). In other words: you don’t grasp our Constitution, our values at all.

            For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Ephesians 6:12

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Move to Moscow, dude.

            You would fit in better there.

          • iksnilol

            NATO isn’t really threathening Russia if Russia’s neighbours seek protection within NATO.

          • EC

            If Mexico and Canada joined a Russian-led alliance and allowed the Russians to stage military exercises across our border, you can sure bet that we would see that as a threat.

            We just need to draw a line across Europe. The Russians get half and we (the US) get half. That would likely cool things down over there, where the superpowers get buffer zones so they won’t be so nervous.

          • LGonDISQUS

            “Wolverines!”

          • Minuteman

            Yadda yadda. What have WE been up to these last 18 or so years? That’s right: invasion, war and hostility. But of course, you didn’t notice, did you? Nobody dared to sanction us because we’d come over and ass-rape their little country. Because that’s what we’ve become, a bully state coercing everybody into our agenda and make them serve our interests. We need to stop playing Kindergarten politics with the world, and especially wih Russia. We’re not alone on this planet, there’s other countries that have their interests as well. Americans need to learn to share.

          • LGonDISQUS

            I still believe we should keep Russia close to us, because with Russia’s natural resources, and China’s willingness to make a buck off anyone who is dumb enough, they would make an unholy terror in a military situation regarding logistics, materials and geography.

          • SomethingSomethingDarkSide

            Let’s not forget that most of the American Aks use cheap low-quality steel that’s not hardened correctly. Palmetto State Armory’s AK being the exception to that.

          • Minuteman

            POF is pretty much hit or miss though. Their QC isn’t consistent.

      • n0truscotsman

        Yes they do.

      • int19h

        Gen2 PSAK-47?

    • BrandonAKsALot

      You are just the worst kind of person.

    • Jared A. Faber

      Yeah! Like the new sub-$900 54r & 308 AKs Century is making!

      Wait, no, those don’t exist! I totally f’ing hate this!

  • M-dasher

    “What are these 10 companies that are going bankrupt that have gun owners furrious?!”

  • Minuteman

    Bye bye Veprs. Sanctions are what happens when we vote idiots into office, wage war everywhere and stick our noses into other people’s business. It’s about damn time we quit doing foreign policy already (especially this anti Russia non-sense), because hitting our own consumer gun market is what happens. I really feel sorry for the AK fan base.

    • TheNotoriousIUD

      Russia happens to be our greatest threat.
      People need to wake up.

      • Minuteman

        You sir, are delusional. Our biggest threat is our failing education system, millions of people being out of the health care insurance loop, the mess weve made of our natural environment and our Neanderthal infrastructure (take a look at our crippling roads, our overal backwardness: our tap water isn’t even potable! And what’s with the above ground power lines on wooden poles in our residential areas? That crap went away in Europe before the first world war). Did I mention the 20+ trillion debt?? Those are just some examples man… You are the one that needs to wake up.

        Anyway, politics man….

        • n0truscotsman

          LOL no politics.

          Phil is going to come in here and start taking people to the woodshed for misbehaving… 😛

      • David J

        Our biggest threat is the globalist warmongering scum in our government who do not care about anything other than power. The progressives are the enemy and neocons love war.

        Considering global influence then I could say Russia is our biggest threat because they are not in 20+ trillion debt,do not have leaders who cow down to the mentally ill that can’t look between their legs to determine their sex, and do not tolerate cowards in office who fail to defend their rights. So, in a sense you are correct, but it’s due to our own self-destruction not what Russia has done since the fall of the Soviet Union. At least in Russia they defend and understand that a traditional family structure is the key to a successful society. In America, we allow the lunatics to define debate which results in the insanity we see every day.

        These sanctions need to be lifted. I can only hope we will forge a relationship with Russia based on strength for strength. Weakness is our enemy and under Obama we were weak. Thankfully Trump is a strong leader.

        • TheNotoriousIUD

          You should move to Moscow, commie.

          • David J

            Address my points…..

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Why?
            Its obvious who you are.
            For every authoritarian bully like Putin who steps on the world stage there will be cowards, traitors and appeasers who would rather bend over than fight.
            Youre not original, youre just weak.

          • Minuteman

            And none of our Presidents since JFK haven’t been authoritarian bullies? Heck, even JFK was a bully……

            Anyway, it’s obvious you don’t have the intellectuel prowess it takes to have a debate, nor the moral courage to criticize our own government and our own actions. Nor did you ever flip any pages in the Bible. It says: take a look at yourself before judging others.

            So long buddy, take care. You’ll come around one day, I’m sure.

          • David J

            Really? I refuse to waste my time with people like you.

          • Emfourty Gasmask

            So exactly why do you hate Russia

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            This is America, dude. You dont get a free education.
            Go buy a book.

          • iksnilol

            What points? “Wah, my nuclear family, wah”. “Let’s cooperate with the commies”.

            Yeah, not happening.

          • Minuteman

            It has nothing to do with Communism or Moscow dude. For once, just this once, use your brain and show you are cabale of anintelligent debate. Put your balls back into your pants, stop creaming and act like an adult. Come on now. Stop this empty f****n’ flag waving already and just come and sit at the table.

          • n0truscotsman

            Didn’t you get the memo? A redo of the Red Scare, Red Baiting, and Mccarthyism is the new virtue signalling by those too stupid to realize their own corruption and idiocy cost them the election. Yeah keep telling your voting base who are actually progressive and liberal to pound sand, see where that gets ya…

        • Minuteman

          Finally, someone sane… I’m not happy about nor am I convinced Trump is the right person in the right place at the right time though. Ron Paul was the man we needed, yet GOP voters never gave him a chance. They all tended to the McCains, Romneys and other idiots.

          • David J

            I really miss Ron Paul.

          • Minuteman

            Yeah me to…. He would have been great on the international stage as well as do good things for the 2A crowd. I’m not impressed with Trump, there’s something not Kosher about the man. He has two faces.

          • iksnilol

            You mean he’s a politician?

        • No Russian ever called me a “deplorable.”

      • Seth Hill

        So when are you finally going to get it that the Cold War is over?

        • TheNotoriousIUD

          You are ignorant.

      • n0truscotsman

        Not remotely.

        Our greatest threat is our feudal economic elite. Have you seen the smoking crater that is our society?

        Russia has an economy the size of Italy (which is in a spiral), an impending demographic disaster exacerbated by drug use, alcoholism, and violence, and a toxic and corrupt political system no better than Nigeria.

        Putin has every intention to work in his own interests, and I have no doubt their intelligence services are attempting to pay back the west for their interventions in economic and political affairs. And there are no ‘good guys’ in 21st century realpolitik (as if good/bad ever was a thing).

        The neo-mccarthyism demonstrated by many here is outright disturbing. Were some of you characters even alive during the Cold War?

        • TheNotoriousIUD

          Of course, what do we have to fear from an economically unstable, nuclear armed nation led by a former member of the most repressive internal security apparatus in modern history?
          Sheer paranoia I’m sure.
          The idea that we are morally equivalent is nonsense.
          There’s a reason why people all over the world risk death or imprisonment to come to the United States.
          Freedom.
          Sure, we export a lot of crap but we’re still the cultural capital of the world.
          I can own a legal machine gun, burn an American flag, join the kkk, practice witchcraft or go to a Chris brown concert.
          People who don’t believe in right or wrong are dangerous and not to be trusted.
          I’m an American, well a Texan first, and I love it here.
          I’ll be happy to get a kickstarter going for anyone who wants a ticket to Moscow.

          • n0truscotsman

            “by a former member of the most repressive internal security apparatus in modern history?”

            …A title that can be easily shared…depending on who’s on the receiving end of the repression.

            Russia, while abysmally corrupt, is no North Korea, Nazi Germany, or Soviet Union.

            And there’s two sides to every story. Like what was brought up before, the US expanded NATO, despite assurances not to, bringing the alliance to Russia’s western border. We also stationed missiles in East Europe during GWB’s presidency. Arguably, the US was indirectly complicit in the Arab spring fiasco, which led to a bloody civil war in Russian-ally Syria, and entangled Russian ally Iran. Arguably, the US and EU were complicit in the current Ukraine kerfuffle.

            We are currently expanding forces in Poland.

            So many of you act as if Russia is magically ramping up the hostility out of nowhere. This is naive idealism and false innocence worthy of a poor military technothriller novel.

            Likewise, Im not arguing that Russia is an innocent, peaceful victim either. My issues with Putin and the Russian government in general could fill a room.

            “The idea that we are morally equivalent is nonsense.”

            Who has spent the past 100 years propping up dictatorships, under the sponsorship of American corporations, to ensure the continued flow of cheap resources for our consumerist economic paradigm?

            Who has spent the past 60 years propping up Saudi Arabia and ensuring the continuation of the petro-dollar via Bretton-Woods? even if it means dealing with genocidal lunatics like Saddam Huseein?

            Who has spent the past 50 years involving ourselves in the election of basically every major country on the planet?

            Who has waged a endless war on drugs, preaching about the evils of drug use, while permitting our chief intelligence agency (CIA) to smuggle product stateside?

            Who conducted genocide the Native Americans in a chain of events that arguably inspired Nazi Germany’s Lebenstram?

            This may offend your “America rah rah rah” session, but its quite ridiculous I have to educate our own people about events like this when they are documented fact.

            I love my country to, but ill be goddamned if the SOBs who committed evil acts are not going to be held unaccountable. Because our public allows them to continue to do the things they do unpunished, it provides ammunition to guys like Putin and Osama Bin Laden. It is also harming out civil liberties as we acquiesce to increasingly absurd requests to justify chasing shadows in the darkness and wave our stick around to remind everyone we’re still all mighty and powerful.

            Ridiculous.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Masterful, comrade.

            Absolutely textbook.

            For those of you reading who are not familiar with this breed of subtle propaganda please allow me to translate:

            “Yes, Putin is a horrible person and Russia is totally corrupt and evil but isnt the US just as bad??
            I mean in this day and age arent terms like right & wrong obsolete? I mean who can even tell the difference anymore?
            Hitler, Stalin, Jimmy Carter…..Arent they all the same people in different colored sweaters?
            The Cold War….pshaw….Who can even remember what all the fuss was about with that crazy Berlin Wall and the gulags and whatnot?? Werent parachute pants equally as bad when you think about it?
            All I can say about this wacky anti-Russian business is….Hey! Wheres the beef?!”

          • toms

            These two are Russian propaganda trolls nothing more. No amount of discourse will change their opinion. Ive watched both since 2014, they were part of the TFB disinformation brigade pushing the Kremlin narrative in Ukraine. Posting pictures of rebels with sks and Ukrainian soldiers with SS brands as proof that the rebels were local dissidents and Kiev were NAZI’s fascists etc. Russia spends a lot on disinformation campaigns and unfortunately most people here are too dense to realize its a form of war against the USA.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Im glad somebody else here is paying attention to these nut jobs.

            Putin is a big proponent of what Russians now call “Hybrid War” which involves the type of cyber warfare tactics used against Estonia ans Georgia.

            It is not a joke.

          • n0truscotsman

            Thats a series of strawman arguments. And I could go on and on about Russian and Soviet era atrocities.

            My position is, “there are no innocent players in 21st century geopolitics. Arguably there never were any. Putin is horrible. the US deep state is horrible. Theyre anachronisms holding back the potential for the human race, and are making this world a miserable, soul-crushing hellhole for most of us”.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Dude, sell your garbage elsewhere.

            I know what you are.

          • n0truscotsman

            You either have to be astonishingly incompetent or a psychopath to simply dismiss what I said above as ‘garbage’.

            I deal with historical fact. And whether its convenient or not for your sensibilities is of no importance to me whatsoever. Likewise, Im not exactly sure what youre implying by ‘I know what you are’. Has your red baiting proven fruitful so far?

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            You deal in bullshit.
            Some people may have forgotten how you guys operate but I’m all over it.
            Stop wasting your time peddling your drivel on me clown.

          • n0truscotsman

            Since my last commet is pending,

            If you are going to accuse me of something, then say it. Enough with the vague ‘you guys’ tap dancing. Back it up with evidence. Otherwise, take a hike.

    • Alexandru Ianu

      The economic war against Russia makes a whole lot of sense. In this case it didn’t even matter. Molot wasn’t hit by sanctions. Also, it went bankrupt back in 2012 due to huge prior debts that couldn’t be recovered by a rise in US exports.

      Overall it’s not going to matter much. Bulgarian, Serbian and Romanian exports are still a thing, parts kits are still going to the US (with more on the way as batches are surplused), and US domestic production is improving in quality over time.

      • Minuteman

        You’re out of your Neocon mind, like NotoriousIUD.

        • iksnilol

          I think pinko commie lovers like you are a bigger threat than any imaginary “Neocons”?

          • Kurt Akemann

            For Minuteman, ‘neocon’ just means “Non-liberal whose foreign policy ideas I don’t like”.

          • n0truscotsman

            You know exactly what it means. It means the group of idiots who think Cold War 2.0 is a good idea and that we should risk incidents like *this* from becoming more likely again

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_close_calls

            Not all of us want to redo the 20th century again.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            You mean idiots who don’t realize that the Cold War was actually world war 3 and we won?

          • n0truscotsman

            It wasn’t WW3. Not even close.

            Had that happened, we probably wouldn’t be having this conversation.

      • n0truscotsman

        Yeah, it makes a whole lot of sense all right. Driving Russia into the arms of China, ensuring non-western domination of the Eurasian continent.

        And i’ve been waiting nearly 20 years for US companies to catch up on AK quality. They haven’t even come close. Unless you want to build a very expensive Fuller AK or order a Krebs.

    • Scott Wagner

      It’s funny how fundamentally wrong your perception of this situation is. Molot wasn’t hit by any of the sanctions (which hit Russia after molot was already in trouble), and the sanctions were put in place because of the Russian invasion of the Ukraine….sorry, because poor, native seperatists suddenly acquired modern, front line Soviet hardware and there were suddenly a hell of a lot more of them that spoke with Russian accents.

      • Minuteman

        You’re missing the point. If KC buys Molot then the US consumer is screwed. Off: what invasion? Any proof of that? Because I’m sure you agree our spy sattelites would have made pictures of Russian units that would have been fully exploited in the media.

        • iksnilol

          You really denying the Russian invasion of Ukraine? Really?

          Oughta jump on the bandwagon and deny the holocaust or the Armenian genocide while you’re at it.

          • Martin frank

            Arming ethnic people for rebellion and sending in some advisor units is hardly an invasion. If so then the USA has invaded syria, libya, ukraine, and yemen in just the past few years.

          • iksnilol

            It kinda is an invasion when you send troops there. Or are you denying the “Green Men” are Russian?

      • Darkness_99

        If your knowledge of that conflict wasn’t based on the MSM narrative, you’ll probably would know that It’s hard to find someone speaking the language other than Russian in that area)

        • int19h

          If your knowledge on that conflict wasn’t based on RT, you’d probably know that the only place in Ukraine where bilingualism isn’t widespread was Crimea. Everywhere else, including Donbass the vast majority (as in 70%+) of people can speak Ukrainian. Which language they consider “native” is a different question, but even in the east 25-30% say it’s Ukrainian.

        • Scott Wagner

          ? Talking accents, not the language itself. I’m well aware that the majority of people in the area speak russian. But just like California English is different from New York English (or English English), every language is going to have accents. There’s a reason that the “local militias” wouldn’t speak to journo’s.

      • Martin frank

        they spoke with russian accents because they are ethnic russian and ukraine for a very long time was part of…… russia! Ever been to montana? They sound canadian and i bet none of the are maple syrup special forces commandos.

    • iksnilol

      “Anti Russia non-sense”?

      Do you even consider yourself American? You’re sounding a bit like a commie there, bub.

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        I hate to say this but I think a certain segment of the population looks at Russia/Putin and thinks, “Hey, they have a ‘tough guy’ leader who doesnt take any crap from the damn liberal press and the queers in Hollywood. And there aint any black people over there so whats the problem? Sounds pretty good!”

        I cannot think of another explanation other than they are so completely out of touch with recent history/reality that they literally have no clue about whats going on in the world.

        Its scary.

        • toms

          Amen, Russia actually deserved a lot worse than it got for invading and annexing a neutral country. The Ukraine is also the only large country that had somewhat pro Russian views. Russians and Ukrainians are like cousins. Imagine if the US decided to invade Canada. If Russia would do that to its friends and family (Ukraine) imagine what they would do to countries they actually don’t like.

          The sanctions were hardly even a slap on the wrist. History repeats itself its like 1938 again with Germany.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Yep, plenty of people more than willing to either make excuses or just look the other way.

            Disgraceful.

            And they dont even realize that their appeasement makes conflict more likely.

      • What leg does a Bosnian in Norway have to stand on when deciding what is and isn’t American?

        • iksnilol

          Oh, you got me there. I might not be a pro on what’s American, BUT BEING A GODDAMN COMMIE AIN’T BEING AMERICAN! Nor is supporting such despicable people.

          • Considering that “communism” here is a red herring (pardon the pun) I’ll address the “despicable” part. Nobody bats an eyelash when the US cozies up to Sunni extremists, Gulf States that stone women to death, etc. Russia annexes some territory and we’re supposed to get ginned up for a nuclear exchange? Don’t think so.

          • iksnilol

            Yeah, well, everybody got ginned up about Hitler. And he also just wanted a bit extra territory.

            Slippery slopes and all.

          • I think it’s just safer to assume that Godwin’s Law violations imply that the violator doesn’t actually have an argument.

          • iksnilol

            Not when it is a relevant comparison, bub 😉

          • nighthawk9983

            If you are Bosnian you are despicable people.

    • Martin frank

      umm, trump is about quitting foreign policy, and not being anti russian, but yet you call him an idiot in the same paragraph and also delusionally believe that he has had some kind of impact on consumer gun markets and college students? (in a previous delusional post). You might be the most confused out of touch with reality person ive seen in a long time.

  • RSG

    There has been some talk by a knowledgeable person that it’s possible Kalashnikov Concern could buy VEPR with govt approved, “creative paperwork”. This could serve two purposes. First, it would still allow the importation of Molot firearms into the US (apparently Molot’s largest market) by Fime group, and secondly, could be a way to “rebrand” saiga manufactured firearms as being “built” by Molot, and thereby allowing US importation. Russia isn’t above allowing any of this to happen, fwiw.

    • Minuteman

      The best thing for US investors to do would be to buy Molot in order to retain the US market (which is the largest share). Of course the Russian govt would never allow that to happen as national pride is at stake, regardless that it would be in the best interest of Molot.

      • Mike N.

        Doing business in Russia is a good way to get f*cked. If it happened to big money players like BP with the Sakhalin Island project ($20bn project seized), or Armitage Capital (whose lawyer ended up dead in custody on BS charges), it’ll happen to a small/mid-sized business.

        • Minuteman

          A lot of college students and numerous businesses got screwed by Trump. The man was titled King of Fraud by Forbes. Look it up on Google, it’s there. I’m not looking at Russia, what I criticize are our own actions and the people we (uhum, the EC) vote into office. Unless we are free of sin ourselves, we have no right to judge others. Russia isn’t perfect, but neither are we. In fact, we’re much worse.

          • Mike N.

            Yeah, but you be my guest and invest some money in Russia, and let us all know how it works out.

          • Emfourty Gasmask

            >Forbes
            >Google

            I’m sure the DNC is looking mighty welcoming to the muh tru conservative types. Time to fly home to roost.

          • int19h

            There’s a big difference between private fraud, and government corruption enabled fraud. It’s amazing just how much money you can squeeze out of people and companies if you control the courts.

          • Rodney Steward

            But who can forget those famous words of Obama, when I get reelected, (PUT IN) I’ll have more flexibility! No one has dealt with the Russian’s than the Opey clan!

          • vepraksoldat

            yea, but he didn’t have ties like Trump has

          • Mikial

            And this has bearing on the article . . . how? Just another anti-Trump Liberal looking for any forum they can find. Have fun. And if you see the USA as worse than Russia, I’ll be glad to help you pack for your trip to your new homeland. BTW, I’m assuming you voted for Clinton?

      • Seth Hill

        Here is the problem with your idea; even if there was a US company or investor that could afford to win the auction, NONE of them have a Russian firearms manufacturing license and I don’t see them getting one any time soon, even if they won the auction.

      • toms

        Having lived in Russia and seen how business is conducted there, an American would have to have sht for brains to buy a Russian defense company. The second it came out as profitable again, the government would suddenly decide to nationalize it. Also pretty sure foreigners are not allowed to own defense companies in Russia.
        I also suspect the second Kalash bought the company it would by default be subject to the sanctions.

        • carlcasino

          Worked there during the Cold War. Everything sucks and being watched 24/7 gives me goose bumps 40 years later.

          • vepraksoldat

            everything sucks? may be its you. I lived there also, there things were good and things there were not

        • vepraksoldat

          Kalash will not buy it officially, government will take care of their debt

      • supergun

        Best thing is to allow the guns to be sold in America. I believe the vodka is still being sold.

    • vepraksoldat

      Russian bankruptcy laws are much different. A lot of Russian companies go through that. I am sure Russian government will help them to write off the debt. Kalashnikov Concern officially will not buy it, because they will not be able to import to USA, since its biggest buyer. They not that stupid to do that, at least on paper. Under the table is different story.

  • DoctorH

    I’ll give them five American dollars for the whole shebang.

  • john huscio

    Time to life the Chinese ban to compensate.

    • MattCFII

      THIS! Plus get rid of the 922r ridiculousness, both are EOs so would just take the pen of Trump to do.

      • Jimmy D

        There are multiple layers of sanctions on China, not just a single EO. It won’t happen.

        • Minuteman

          Well ain’t that comical? China is doing better than we are. Sanctions or no sanctions 😀 Oh boy, I sure had my laugh this day on TFB. Now if you gentlemen will please excuse me, duty calls and I’m kinda hungry as well, so I bid you good day….

    • iksnilol

      You want to support literaly communists?

      What the f### is wrong with you?

  • iksnilol

    China has a if you get caught with a gun you get executet policy. So yeah, “great”.

  • n0truscotsman

    “Messing up the Middle East was a mistake, but ignoring Russia because
    “non-intervention” is akin to shooting yourself in the foot”

    Russia is acting the way they are *precisely* because of US interventionism. Kind of like the Jihadi headchoppers. Interesting that.

    Here’s a thought experiment: would it be considered ‘peaceful’ if Russia placed missiles in Cuba and then expanded the Warsaw Pact to Latin America?

  • iksnilol

    Who gives liberty for safety deserves neither. Neither China nor the UAE are “our” comrades.

    • Redfoot

      Really? Because I was stationed in the UAE, with their military being flush with US and UK wares being trained by both military and civilian folk.

      • iksnilol

        They keep people literally as slaves. And they jail women for getting raped. You can’t support that crap.

        Also, your sentence is a mess. Military and civilians trained UK/US wares? What does that even mean?

        • nighthawk9983

          Germany, Sweden, the UK, and soon Canada will jail people for speaking ill of the religion of piss and its pedophile prophet, are you going to boycott them as well or just talk a good talk cause it’s okay to suppress free speech in the name of a vile religion that is there to take over?

          • iksnilol

            They ain’t doing it nor do I think they will. Also, I think it is a bit more messed up to keep literal slaves vs being overly politically correct. You do realize those two things aren’t equivalent, right?

        • Redfoot

          First, look at the proximity of the UAE to Iran. When I was there in the late 2000’s, they had Colt-made M4’s, Beretta 92’s marked M9, and Minimi’s of undetermined origin. Larger hardware was AH-64 and Blackhawks-i.e. flush with military hardware, with many civilian ex-pats working for the UAE military with training and maintenance.

          The US is in many countries that have laws vastly different from ours, but their location offers a strategic advantage, i.e. Qatter and other places around the horn of Africa. I served supporting U.S. and coalition forces, not an oppressive foreign regime.

          There, does that clarify it?

          • Secundius

            My understanding was that the “Minimi” origin design was based on the 1958 Mitrailleuse d’Appui General (MAG) Model 60-20 GPMG…

          • iksnilol

            What does that have to do with anything?

    • int19h

      The point is that if you’re willing to embargo one of them over it, you should also embargo the other (and several dozen more countries). If anything, UAE (and most other Gulf states) should be on that list far ahead of China.

      In any case, there’s a big difference between supporting, and doing business with. I think it’s not unreasonable to say that the bar for the latter is much lower. I’d still love an embargo on the likes of KSA – if only because they fund Wahhabi extremism internationally, so it’s not just their internal matters – but China doesn’t reach that level.

      • iksnilol

        Doing business with somebody is providing financial aid to them.

        Both the commies and the wahabis should be glassed.

        • int19h

          Should Singapore be “glassed”, too? It’s a dictatorship, after all.

          • iksnilol

            They’re basically 1984, so pretty much. I mean, nukes are cheap.

            And they banned chewing gum. CHEWING GUM IS A PROUD RED BLOODED AMERICAN PAST TIME! They’ve basically declared war on you lot.

  • Liberal Juggalo supremacist

    I hope they don’t get bought out and the quality plummets. They make some of the nicest rifles.

  • Colonel K

    Just do like the Russians did in1945, acquire the property, then pack it up and ship it home. Of course, I doubt the Russian government would allow you to do that, and I have my doubts the buildings and equipment are up to current western standards.

  • Getoffmylawn

    If only I had $100 million to spare! Damn the luck.

  • Secundius

    A better explanation can be found at (https: // www. truthaboutguns. com/2017/03/foghorn/russian-firearms-maker-molot-bankrupt-company-will-auctioned/). Sorry about “Format”, but was “Redacted” twice before for Posting Story…

  • Blake

    🙁