BREAKING: LTG Hal Moore Passed Away At The Age Of 94

We are saddened to report that the veteran apparel company Grunt Style has announced that Lieutenant General Hal Moore has passed away at the age of 94 in Auburn, Alabama.

LTG Moore was the first American commander to engage in a large-scale battle with the M16 family of rifles during the Battle of Ia Drang. Moore was later quoted as saying “Brave soldiers and the M16 brought this victory.” Moore even stated that the M16 was “the best individual infantry weapon ever made.” I suspect that his leadership and the many hours of training had much to do with the victory as well.

The XM16E1 rifle used in the Battle of Ia Drang.

While he didn’t have a direct effect on the gun industry, Hal Moore did have an effect on the adoption of the M16 for service with the US military and our appreciation for the early days of Vietnam thanks to his book We Were Soldiers Once … And Young that would later be made into a movie. Had it not been for LTG Moore’s praise for the XM16E1, the adoption of the M16 and the proliferation of the AR 15 in America might not have happened.

LTC Bruce Crandall leaves LZ X-Ray.

Hal Moore was nothing short of a hero and patriot of the highest caliber. With 32 years of active duty service, Moore earned many awards for valor in the face of the enemy, most notably the Distinguished Service Cross (the award just below the Medal of Honor) for his conduct during the Battle of Ia Drang.

Rest in peace, Sir. Garryowen.

Update: The family has released a statement about the passing of LTG Moore.

We regret to report Lt General Harold G Moore Jr passed away in his sleep on February 10, 2017, also the birthday of his wife, Julia, who passed away in 2004. Mom called Dad home on her day. After having a stoke last week, Dad was more lethargic and had difficulty speaking, but he had always fought his way back…

By the time we held an early birthday party on February 9th, Dad could no longer speak and was visibly tired. Upon seeing his cavalry Stetson, his iron will forced a final communication to his beloved West Point, his precious soldiers and the US Army. This video shows his final hand salute. God bless our Dad. Keep and protect him.

Chills just went up my spine. As I type this, an ice cream truck drove by improbably chiming the 7th Cavalry ballad, Garry Owen. Dad just told all of us he is fine.

We are working the details of the funeral. As a devout Roman Catholic, Dad’s Mass will be held in St. Michael the Archangel Church in Auburn AL. After moving to Fort Benning for a memorial service at the National Infantry Museum, internment in the Fort Benning cemetery, the family will host a reception back at the museum.

All are welcome to attend and we will publish a schedule as soon as it is finalized. We will attempt to live stream the memorial and graveside service. The services will probably be on either Thursday or Friday,



Patrick R

Patrick is a Senior Writer for The Firearm Blog and Co-Director for TFBTV. He is a verified gun nerd and also podcasts at The Firearms Podcast. With a lifelong passion for shooting, he has a love for all types of firearms, especially overly modified plastic handguns, precision rifles, and AR based things. You can follow Patrick on Instagram @tfbpatrick, Facebook, or contact him by email at tfbpatrick@gmail.com.

The above post is my opinion and does not reflect the views of any company or organization.


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  • Jim Forrest

    Let’s get the salute right for the future, it’s Garryowen, one word, not two.

    • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

      While true, I have seen both variations used interchangeably.

    • Mikial

      Glad that’s all you can focus on. Why do some people spend their time trying to find things to correct in articles, while ignoring the actual message of the story. A great man and a personal inspiration passed away and left the world a poorer place.

      • Mike Lashewitz

        It is a military thing.

        • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

          No, it isn’t.

          • Mike Lashewitz

            Tell me all about it.

      • Jim Forrest

        I have paid my respects to the General in other posts. My feelings were that at least “Garryowen” could be quoted correctly in his honor. And yes, I have seen it with a space, but that does not make it correct.

        • John Bovenzi

          Garryowen, also known as Garyowen, Garry Owen and Gary Owens, is an Irish tune for a quickstep dance. It was selected as a marching tune for British, Canadian, and American military formations, most notably Gen. George Armstrong Custer’s 7th Cavalry.

          • Phillip Cooper

            I, too, can read Wikipedia.

  • Jarhead0369

    “Let us not mourn that such men died, but rejoice that such men lived”
    ~George S. Patton
    A brave, admirable man is gone, and the first thing some people worry about is the spelling.
    I don’t get it.

    • DaveLDog

      Nothing is more important to some than correcting others on the internet.

    • William M Durham

      Sadly snowflakes exist

  • Hans

    F
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    • SP mclaughlin

      _F

  • Flight Er Doc

    Garyowen, Sir!

  • TheNotoriousIUD

    I’ve heard his comments on the M 16 before but wasn’t 1965 the year everyone found out they were garbage?

    • Mikial

      Actually, they were fine. It was the composition of the powder in the rounds at that time, and the lack of training for the troops on proper maintenance that caused most of the problems. Once that was sorted out they served well. After 12 years in the Army, and as many years doing high risk security work, I would and have trusted the M16/M4 rifle in life and death situations. I personally own several variants. General Moore spoke from experience, not from reading internet articles.

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        Uh no they were not “fine”.
        The propellant was the least worst problem. They suffered from massive corrosion and failures to extract that cost who knows how many lives. My father is a Marine and a Vietnam vet and he refused to carry one in favor of a Thompson machine gun.
        I happen to own a legal select fire XM177 so I’m also very familiar with the family.

        • Mikial

          I see. So how many years have you actually carried and used one?

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Irrelevant.

          • Wolfgar

            The M-16 was first used with IMR powder which it was designed for and worked very well.

            When they switched to ball powder it changed the dwell time and created bolt bounce thus malfunctions. The chambers were not chrome lined which pitted in the humid jungle environment creating a mechanical lock with the brass which resulted in catastrophic malfunctions especially during fire fights. The M-16 was not ready when deployed in large numbers and I know very few Vietnam vets who trusted it. Today it is a different animal.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            True.
            I don’t think that saying the gun had massive issues during its roll out in Vietnam would be considered a controversial statement by anyone with even minimal knowledge of military history.

          • Wolfgar

            Not at all. It was criminal what happened.

          • Mikial

            Meaning only you have a comprehensive knowledge of military history?

          • Wolfgar

            No, but he was correct about the M-16 having massive issues when first deployed in numbers and anyone with minimal military history would concur.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            I never said that.
            I think if you do some reading you’ll understand that what I’m saying is not original or controversial in the least.

          • Renato H M de Oliveira

            The M-16 was first used with IMR powder which it was designed for and worked very well.

            When they switched to ball powder it changed the dwell time and created bolt bounce thus malfunctions. The chambers were not chrome lined which pitted in the humid jungle environment creating a mechanical lock with the brass which resulted in catastrophic malfunctions especially during fire fights.

            In short, the weapon + ammo LTG Moore, of blessed memory, used in Ia Drang wasn’t the same that was rushed in service shortly afterwards. Add the ball powder + no chrome lining + “maintenance-free” and you turn a fine design into a liability.

            Too bad that such errors were only admitted after they costed casualties.

          • CapeMorgan

            And that is not what the official reports and real surveys of troops in the field reported.

          • Wolfgar

            You are actually arguing with the men who carried the rifle in Vietnam? Until the M-16A1 was fielded the M-16 was a defective rifle for the reasons I have stated.

          • CapeMorgan

            Yes. I know how the stories get embellished at the American Legion.

          • Wolfgar

            Go fire an M-16 with the wrong buffer, it will make a believer out of you. Christopher Bartocci who worked at Colt and wrote the Black Rifle 2 will agree with me as will thousands of Vietnam vets but hey you read a government report.

          • Wolfgar

            The port pressures in the M-16 are not controllable as in the M-14 which is why the M-16 failed with ball powder. The failure of the stick powder to meet the stringent velocity,accuracy,chamber pressure tests when made in large quantities was the reason they went with ball powder which met these standards. The problem was it increased port pressure and changed the dwell time the M-16 was designed for. The original bullet Stoner recommended for the 5.56 had better B.C. and was more lethal but would not meet the stupid velocity and chamber pressure requirements when made in large quantities so they settled on a bullet nobody wanted. Premature firing “slam fire” also occurred which is why they later changed the firing pins. Lack of maintenance was only a part of this government screw up not the main problem. If they would have developed a chrome chamber and barrel as recommended by Springfield Armory from the begging the pitted chamber, jammed cartridge case malfunctions would not have occurred. The M-16 was not ready when first fielded and soldiers died. Like I stated before if maintenance was the only problem then why did they make the M-16A1? Military firearms need a test and trial period as the M-1 Garand,M-14 and AK-47 went through. If this period of trials is neglected,rushed or done negligently then soldiers die as they did with the M-16.

        • retfed

          My understanding is that the originals didn’t have chrome-plated chambers. The recommendation was made (I forget who made it) that the chambers be chrome-plated and McNamara vetoed it because it would cost too much. (Everyone who ever met McNamara hated his guts; he was the most arrogant person anyone has ever met.)
          But I could be wrong. About the M16, not about McNamara.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            You’re not wrong about the man.
            The gun was rushed into service before it was ready. Period. And people died. It was a cluster from day one.
            I don’t want to disrespect LTG Moore but in the CJ Chivers history of the ak47 I got the impression that Chivers believed that Moores comments were made in spite of evidence to the contrary in an attempt to prop up the reputation of the M16.
            I need to re read that section to be sure.

          • Kivaari

            Notice he was talking of the M16E1, which became the M16A1 having the good ammunition, the fully chromed bores, better flash hider and forward assist.

          • Mel_Anosis

            McNamara…..another loser like LBJ. Micromanaging a war from the White House wasted many American lives.

        • Mikial

          But, I will give you the benefit of your opinion, even if it is based on someone else’s perspective, no offense intended to your father. The bottom line is that General Moore had a positive influence on the adoption of the M16 platform that has been used ever since as the primary US infantry weapon. I have shot the M16, M16A1 and many of the variants since. I once accidentally had a spade full of dirt dumped on my weapon with the ejection port cover open while digging a fighting position with my battle buddy. I opened it up, cleaned out the dirt as best I could, and it functioned flawlessly.

          But as I said, I see no point in getting into a keyboard ninja debate with you over this. I carried a couple of different variants of the M4 on contracts in Iraq, and they never let me down in all the sand and duct of that environment.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            I’m not arguing the reliability of the modern version but it’s pretty well known that in its infancy they were pretty useless.
            It’s not just my fathers opinion.
            Like I said I own several variants myself and they run great.

          • Mikial

            If they’re so unreliable, how do they “run great?”

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Do you honestly not know the history of the M16?
            I don’t want to insult you but your ignorance is not my problem.

          • Mikial

            Okay, this conversation is getting boring. I know the initial issue had problems, which were largely for the reasons I cited, namely the propellant and poor maintenance. But it’s 2017 and all that is largely irrelevant now. The article was about a great man, not a rifle. So, I sincerely wish you the very best and bid this conversation farewell.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            You’re wrong but also have a pleasant night.

          • Darrell Elmore

            I carried my M-16 and CAR -15 in several roles I filled. I drilled a hole through the hand guard and had a fully extended cleaning rod running from there to the stock where it was taped. In some events the bolt would rip part of the casing rim off – the only way to clear the jam was to lock the bolt back and jam the rod through the bore and dislodge the empty. If you were in high humidity and rain a chambered round could create a suction that required a rod to kick it free. If your experience is based on books and rumor your comments are meaningless.

          • CommonSense23

            The propellant was the least of the issues. It was lack of Chrome lining and no training for the majority of troops which resulted in poor maintenance.

          • patrickkell

            to be fair it was billed as the rifle that would never need cleaning and cleaning kits were not issued at first with the rifle

          • patrickkell

            Maybe you should do a little research on Roberts Ridge and read about the problems the M16 variants suffered in 2002

          • Chris

            Didn’t the first batch issued have 1in12 rifling which caused unstable bullets and early upsetting creating serious Trauma ?

          • Wolfgar

            They had 1in 14 inch twist at the start but switched to 1in12 after cold weather testing proved the 1in14 was not fast enough to stabilize the bullet in arctic conditions.

          • CommonSense23

            No. It was purely the speed of the round.

          • CapeMorgan

            The reason why there were adopted was because of the glowing reports from the field…from troops that took care of them.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            No dummy.

        • CommonSense23

          The issue is that Special Operations Forces, certain conventional units such as the Cav, and a couple of units who trained stateside with the weapons, especially the unit armorers had great satisfaction with the weapon. They were also deadlining weapons every far more often.
          The units that didn’t receive the M16 until they were in Vietnam such as the Marines except for Recon and the majority of the army were receiving weapons that were already needing to be replaced. And being that the majority of their personnel had no clue especially the armorers. Disaster resulted.

        • CapeMorgan

          Sorry. The problems with the M16 are well documented. The primary problem in the field was the lack of maintenance. All of the reports are very clear on that. That lack of maintenance caused the failures to feed, the corrosion etc. Unfortunately, folks like you continue with this erroneous twist on the problem. I really doubt there were many Thompson’s being carried in the jungle.
          The reports are actually available online. Or, look at the Weaponsman website for ground truth.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Wrong and wrong again.
            Why is it that uninformed people are always so certain?

          • Wolfgar

            They read something on the internet and completely ignore the people who actually carried the M-16 rifle in the jungles of Vietnam. I would call it stupid but it goes well beyond that. I know a Vietnam vet who carried the M-1 Garand and many others who preferred the M-14 instead of the M-16 in Vietnam but I guess they don’t count either LOL. Hopeless!

          • History

            Do you realize that the vietnam M16 was an extremly early version + had changed wrong powder which caused problems + had non chrome plated chambers etc…?

            It seems you eighter ignore this or are just mentally retarded.

          • Gary Kirk

            You didn’t read his other Rey did you?

          • SPQR9

            “Why is it that uninformed people are always so certain?”

            Self awareness fail.

          • CapeMorgan

            Because they actually look up the subject matter and read the reports.

          • Wolfgar

            No, the problem was the rifle was not ready when it was first fielded in large numbers. The powder was changed from stick to ball which changed the dwell time resulting in full auto malfunctions. The barrel and chamber was not chrome lined as the earlier WW2 rifles were and created a mechanical lock with the brass when the bore pitted from the humid jungle environment. The extractor was weak and the 5.56 which has a small rim compared to other rounds would get ripped off and leave a jammed round in the chamber. Lack of maintenance was just a part of the M-16 failed begging. It was criminal how it was first fielded and many lives were lost because of it. Soldiers in Vietnam would carry what ever they could get their hands on including Thompson SMG’s so they could dump the Jamming Jenny. TheNotoriousIUD is absolutely correct.

        • SPQR9

          The fact is that in its initial deployment, soldiers were not trained to correctly maintain the M16. They were not even issued cleaning kits initially. No rifle is going to work without adequate maintenance. So its not “BS” at all.

          The chrome lined bore and chamber were introduced to reduce but not eliminate the needed frequency of cleaning.

      • Darrell Elmore

        Saw the first ones used as a test in 64. Quality problems and the round did not do what it was touted to do. Got them in 65 and carried them in special forces, regular infantry and as an advisor 65-71. Last time was in 93 in Somalia where the round performed poorly. The services are still “fixing” the design and the Marines have now gone to an HK clone. Same bullet. The ignorance and stupidity never ends.

        • Wolfgar

          I read in the book “Battle For The Falklands, the winter war” the SAS switched back to their L1A1 rifles because of the failure of their M-16 rifles and the 5.56 round. This was not an uncommon opinion.

          • clampdown

            From the footage I’ve seen, the the round was probably inadequate for the terrain…rolling hills and valleys, not unlike the Middle East, which is why Turkey is sticking with the 7.62 NATO.

          • Phillip Cooper

            What has terrain got to do with bullets?

          • Miguel Raton

            It affects the range of engagements. The M16 was a scaled-down AR10 designed to use a bullet suited to 300yd engagements per the ORO. Shooting across mountain valleys is beyond that planned performance envelope.

  • Mikial

    A great American and one of my personal inspirations. The man commanded an extraordinary battle to a successful conclusion.

  • Patrick J. Berg Sr.

    I served with Gen. Moore while he commanded the 7th Inf. Div. 1970-71. For few months I worked as his Div. Trn. NCO. I even had the pleasure to join at his table at mess with other Soldiers he dearly cared for so much. You will be forever remembered. Rest In Peace LtGen Harold Moore.

    • McGeezer

      Thank you for your service, and for remembering an American hero. So long as they live in our memory they shall never die.

  • Old enough to know better

    A great American soldier has passed. And this degenerates into a “dead horse” discussion on the M-16!!! Honor the man and his service.

  • McGeezer

    Shame on you! A graet American Soldier has passed and this has degenerated into a “dead horse” discussion on the M-16…really?
    America has lost a hero and patriot, honor his service and memory,

    • Wolfgar

      Time waits for no man including honorable men like LTG Hal Moore. Bringing the M-16 into recognition was part of his life and apparently needs to be discussed with people who do not understand the truth, both good and bad. Discussing this part of his history does not bring shame but honors him and the truth behind the M-16’s beginning.

  • Mike Lashewitz

    May he rest in peace. and his opinion of the M16 is his.
    When I was issued mine I traded it for an M14 because the damned things kept effing up. Plus they were so damned small.
    If you got stuck with one in the beginning you knew you were dead. If you were not there you would not understand the discussion. Name how many Generals you met on the front line.

    • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

      Maybe you should read up on the man. It seems you don’t kno what you are talking about.

      • asoro

        The M-16 was not a good weapon when it was first issued many guys died from it imperfections. It did mess up a lot, plus the Gov, said it never had to be cleaned, ya right!!!! they soon learned that was not true, But it was more deadly in those days than the same cal, is today, Has to do with the twist of the rifling. on the down side side and the barrels where not chromed, they over heated easy.

        • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

          I am well familiar with the issues of the M16 in the early days of its service. You don’t seem to understand them very well though. Twist rate has literally NOTHING to do with how much damage a bullet causes. Rifling only serves to stabilize the bullet, not make it more deadly.

          I am not going to debate the M16 with you, instead I recommend that you read up on Hal Moore so you can stop putting your foot in your mouth.

          • asoro

            your miss understanding what I am saying there was something with the gun from what people that where there and used it, in those days that the gun was more deadly than it is today, The round tumbled more than it does today many say it had to do with the rifling, I don’t know I was not there, An X-roommate of mine from the 80’s that was a LT, said many guys died due to the gun failing in some ways also, they where told it never needed to be cleaned when they first issued them, Ya that did not last long, Most likely thats why it has the forward assist on it. that today is totally useless, Now they are starting to make them without it, seen a few but not many. I think the % it lost from those days was around 20% kill power, don’t see how but they where there not me, kinda like the Russian poison bullet, 5.56×39 don’t remember if thats the # it might be. It tumbled alot. causing massive damage, they cant use soft point or hollow point’s so you get it to tumble when it hits might be just as good. maybe I should put my foot up your ass. I was writing from what people told me that fought in the war, Most did not like the gun, plus they where not chrome lined, maybe they could not do that in those days.

          • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

            Again, please focus on the loss of a great American. Talk about the shortcomings of the M16 in its early days somewhere else. Have some respect.

    • LilWolfy

      Hey supply sergeant! I’d like to trade my M16 in for an M14 that we turned in last year before I even arrived in country. Can you hook me up? I won’t have any commonality with my Squad mates, and I also expect you to issue me a double basic issue of 20rd M14 magazines that are no longer in supply’s inventory.

      BTW, I’ll also be carrying a Chinese Type 56 piece of garbage assault rifle with blued steel finish. They’re great. Can I get some AK mags and a Chicom chest harness as well? This bloody one we picked up off some dead enemy KIA attracts more flies than my buttcrack after 3 days of patrolling in the bush, plus it has bullet holes in it.

      My Platoon Commander is totally cool with lack of good order and discipline, and my Platoon Sergeant and Squad Leader think it’s cool too, to carry enemy equipment, especially after hearing warnings on the radio about the Chinese ammunition that has been known to blow AKs apart and send the bolt carrier group through the skulls of the poor little guys who pulled the trigger.

      We’d like to add some 7.62×39 ammunition requests to our regular ammo resupply break down, but it can’t be made here in Asia. We’ll need some US-produced ammo if you don’t mind. Get right on that, would you.

    • Miguel Raton

      General officers aren’t supposed to *be* on the front line. Hal Moore was still a colonel when he fought at Ia Drang valley. When that battle happened, the rifles were still new and they were still getting issued from the original lots of ammunition, iirc [before the powder was changed to the incorrect stuff that caused jams.] _The Black Rifle_ should have all the relevant details about what caused the failures later on, when the M16 became general issue. Let’s not get dragged into debates about the hardware: let’s just honor the man, as he justly deserves. A grateful nation thanks you for your service General Moore, and may flights of angels sing you to your rest.

      P.S. – shouldn’t the XM16E1 be a slick? What’s up w/ that picture of the M16 w/ a bolt jack on the side doing there? 😉

  • RobertM

    Rest in peace, sir!

  • Bookoodinkydow

    I also served in Vietnam with the Calvery (First Air Cav.). The m16 saved my butt more times that I can recall. A great weapon.

  • Slick

    Rest in Peace American Patriot. May God give us Ten thousand more men like him.

  • Johannes von’ Strauch

    SCHV ftw, -> KE=1/2m x v² while p=m x v

    Light but Fast = same Energy for less recoil, less weight (=more rounds to carry), flatter trajectory, higher KE/mm², higher steel penetration, and amazing tissue damage for its low weight&recoil.

    With the EPR projectile construction its performance is excellent.

    The only thing compromising the performance of 5.56×45 is the short nose ogive, and therefore bad form factor.

  • David Keith

    My understanding is the battle of Ia Drang is remembered most importantly due to the use of Huey Cobras to bring the infantry to the battle. The Army had practiced this for some time in preparation for a real battle and Ia Drang was it.
    General Moore’s book on the battle was a hugely impressive work (along with the co author whose name escapes me at the moment.)

    • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

      It was important for that reason as well.

    • SPQR9

      Joseph L. Galloway, was coauthor. He was a UPI correspondent who was at the battle. He was later awarded a Bronze Star for carrying a wounded soldier from the front lines at Ia Drang.

      • Phil Ossiferz Stone

        Boy, the press has changed.

        • asoro

          all politics these days

      • conrad

        The book “We were soldiers once, and young” is a great read, and the face of Rick Rescoria is on the cover. The movie edited out his actions, and he perished in the World Trade Center collapse as head of security for Morgan Stanley. Great men, all of them.

        • Phillip Cooper

          Thanks for the information. I’ll get the book and read up on Mr. Rescoria as well.

    • The Brigadier

      The movie with Mel Gibson playing Moore was pretty faithful to the book.

  • anonymous

    > We are saddened to report that the veteran
    > apparel company Grunt Style has announced

    Why did you make an announcement about General Moore’s death into an ad for an apparel company?!

    “We are saddened to report that the veteran apparel company Grunt Style has announced that Lieutenant General Hal Moore has passed away at the age of 94 in Auburn, Alabama.”

    should simply have been

    “We are saddened to report that Lieutenant General Hal Moore has passed away at the age of 94 in Auburn, Alabama.”

    • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

      Because they were the first to break the news of LTG Moore’s death. It is far from an ad when you are citing a source.

  • GBWO

    RIP Warrior

  • Darrell Elmore

    Lot of respect for Moore, not for the M-16. I used it up through somalia and never did trust it to do the job right.

  • John

    Good God, men.

    Honor the man, don’t argue the pros/cons of the M16.

    That’s a separate discussion.

  • CavScout

    Halfway down the trail to Hell,
    In a shady meadow green
    Are the Souls of all dead troopers camped,
    Near a good old-time canteen.
    And this eternal resting place
    Is known as Fiddlers’ Green.
    Marching past, straight through to Hell
    The Infantry are seen.
    Accompanied by the Engineers,
    Artillery and Marines,
    For none but the shades of Cavalrymen
    Dismount at Fiddlers’ Green.
    Though some go curving down the trail
    To seek a warmer scene.
    No trooper ever gets to Hell
    Ere he’s emptied his canteen.
    And so rides back to drink again
    With friends at Fiddlers’ Green.
    And so when man and horse go down
    Beneath a saber keen,
    Or in a roaring charge of fierce melee
    You stop a bullet clean,
    And the hostiles come to get your scalp,
    Just empty your canteen,
    And put your pistol to your head
    And go to Fiddlers’ Green.

  • Klaus Von Schmitto

    I’m not saying they aren’t true but everything I read a story where some
    dogface or Marine traded their allegedly POS M16 for a (AK, M1, M14,
    Carbine, whatever) I see some platoon sergeant saying “what the f$*k is
    that and where is your weapon?”

    • patrickkell

      My father was a Marine in Vietnam, he started his tour with the m14 during his tour they were switched the m16 as a result he traded with a guy for a Sten to carry as backup

      • Old Vet

        I worked briefly with a guy from Ark. who I believe was a Seal. He carried an AK and a S&W .357. Didn’t trust the M-16 and said he could always pick up ammo from his opponents after their demise…haha

  • Charlie Victor Alpha

    RIP

  • GARRYOWEN!

  • Wolfgar

    You are correct about the M-1 not having a chrome lined barrel. You are not correct about the M-16 being rectified in the field by proper maintenance.The dwell time was screwed up by using ball powder which created malfunctions with bolt bounce. The buffers, firing pins, chrome lining, extractor spring “plastic plug” and other parts were changed because they were faulty. The small bore of the 5.56 created problems the larger bore rifles never experienced. Read the book the Black Rifle, it goes into depth and detail about it. The rifle was not ready when first deployed in numbers and many Americans lost their lives because of it. Lack of maintenance and proper instruction was only a part of it. Charles Cutshaw, Chuck Taylor are two other Vietnam vets who carried the Thompson and other SMG’s rather than the M-16. We dumped many Thompson SMG’s in Vietnam with other surplus WW2 firearms which could be found during the war not to mention many foreign SMG’s. If lack of maintenance was the only problem their wouldn’t be an M-16A1.

    • Wolfgar

      Crickets!

  • JumpIf NotZero

    When all news is “breaking” none of it is.

    In fact… I’m eagerly looking to see how this “breaking” story develops!

    • Phillip Cooper

      Yeah seriously. Enough with the “breaking” BS.

  • patrickkell

    right because no one would ever lie in a report to cover up an epic failure in leadership…..That would explain John McCain and the USS Forestal.

    • CapeMorgan

      Right and no one would ever exaggerate a sea story. How about that infamous M-1 ping? Like I said there are tons of reports and surveys to read. Reading is fundamental.

  • Kafir1911

    “Attention On Deck! Hand Salute. Brave Man Arriving.” For, General Moore, upon arriving in Heaven.

  • Daniel W

    Another Hero passes.He will be sorely missed.Now he will rest with other Hero’s in Arlington.

  • Old Vet

    RIP Sir, and farewell.

  • lookinoutforu

    Flagged.

  • Jim

    God Bless LTG Hal Moore. He was a great leader and his record will go down in history to prove that fact. We lost another great hero from my generation.

  • RPK

    A superb leader and steadfast patriot. This man represented the best of America’s military and his generation. His legacy lives on with every Trooper who proudly wore or will wear an Air Cavalry patch. Rest in peace, LTG Moore.

  • Rickey Cook

    I would have followed this man in to the bowels of hell if he said we are going . The man loved his men as a General he led by example. thats a true leader. Heaven has another warrior to help lead the final battle.

  • LilWolfy

    A lot more soldiers would have died at Ia Drang if they would have had M14s, for the simple reason that they would have expended their ammunition quickly, and been overrun.

  • Steven Kaspar

    Another great American leaves this land so much poorer, I salute LT. General Hal Moore rest in peace.

  • William M Durham

    A truly great leader and man has passed, ALLONS

  • James Smith

    Viet Nam was based on two attacks , the second of which did not happen.

  • MAS

    Rest in peace sir…

  • Mike

    My commanding officer would always say

    “Gods speed, see ya on the high ground.”

    Thank you sir!

  • Lucas

    I will see you in the green sir.