SureFire’s New Lights | SHOT 2017

SureFire had some new lights at Shot Show 2017.  The Firepak has been shelved for this new light. with intellibeam. So the light reflected off the surface will cause the light to auto switch to the flood beam so you are not blinded by the backsplash of light.

 

SureFire has taken their popular XC1 light and made the XC2. Now it has a built in laser. MSRP is a bit steep at $400.

 

SureFire also has a new X-series light that is single cell. The XH1 is 350 lumens and is designed to work with their new holster.

Below you can see SureFire’s new holster that is designed to grab their weaponlights. Due to the method of attachment, it only works on certain SureFire weaponlignts. You can see the new X-400 mounted on the blue gun. The bezel has been redesigned to interface with the holster.

The holster looks like a competition race ghost holster and you have the light automatically be activated upon the draw of the pistol.

And every year they have a minigun on display with a SureFire Hellfighter.



Nicholas C

Co-Founder of KRISSTALK forums, an owner’s support group and all things KRISS Vector related. Nick found his passion through competitive shooting while living in NY. He participates in USPSA and 3Gun. He loves all things that shoots and flashlights. Really really bright flashlights.

Any questions please email him at nicholas.c@staff.thefirearmblog.com


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  • RSG

    With so many micro lights, at much cheaper prices, Surefire just isn’t on my to do list.

    • codfilet

      these lights aren’t for the Wal*Mart crowd…..

      • Bill

        They’ve priced themselves out of the market for the average cop who has to buy their own kit.

        • A full kit for a weapon light is already pretty expensive, they would already be spending an extra $100 for a holster that can accommodate the light. Another $50-100 for a light is pretty marginal.

        • conrad

          Having used several of the cheaper pretenders I quickly went back exclusively to Surefire. Being in a life threatening situation that demanded light only to hear the damn thing go ‘pop’ and shut down helps me to open the pocket book as far as necessary for the specific light I need… and then I bought 2. I’ve dropped them 30 feet onto concrete, soaked them in rain, scratched, bumped and dinged them but they work every time and that is of inestimable value to me. I’ve never worn one out, and give them to nephews when I want to buy a new one. The only thing I ever needed warranty for was (my fault) for a badly bent pocket clip, and they sent me a new clip for free.
          The average Cop can’t afford not to have tools like this.

          • Bill

            When you have kids to feed it’s a different story. BTW, I have a half dozen Surefire weapons lights and maybe a dozen SF flashlights. I get as good a service from Streamlight as Surefire in domestic LE.

  • Dickie

    The xc2 will b awsome once available in green

    • Edeco

      With DG switch capability

  • i1776

    Keep TFB going with old SHOT show news…

  • Ranger Rick

    Perhaps the need for a proprietary holster idea is not the way to go in weapon light development?

    Does anyone know if we have about topped out on lumens vs. battery life in small lights?

    • Sunshine_Shooter

      I don’t think we have maxed out lumens v battery life, I just think SureFire is sacrificing performance for gimmicks.

    • DonDrapersAcidTrip

      It’s a new polymer light, it’s not going to magically work in old holsters anyway and you’re not stuck using the surefire holster if anyone else wants to make a hoslter for it.

      • This has nothing to do with offering holsters for a new light.

        For people carrying a gun with a weapon light for duty purposes Safariland ALS holsters aren’t light specific. As long as your lights isn’t unusually large it should work.

        For the EDC using custom kydex crowd it is almost guaranteed that if Surefire releases a weaponlight, they will buy it and offer holsters for it.

        This holster was designed for a specific market and purpose. People need to realize that not everything showed off at SHOT are for the general public. Many of them have niche purposes, often niche even for military users.

        • DonDrapersAcidTrip

          not sure why you responded to me with this

    • The weapon lights don’t require the holster. The holster is simply designed to lock on the light so it can work with most guns. As the market for this likely isn’t big enough to make gun specific models.

      Based on what I’ve heard the idea was to make a holster that you can carry a silencer attached to the gun without a weird or long draw. And works with and without the silencer attacked. It is a similar idea to the Cyre Gunclip, which just wasn’t that great of a design IMO.

      Anyways it is basically a race holsters that locks onto the light.

      • Ranger Rick

        Thanks, that makes a lot more sense. I really didn’t spend much time at the Surefire booth this time around at SHOT.

    • Mmmtacos

      I like the idea. Instead of having to find a holster that supports a weapon & light combo instead you just have a holster that supports the light and whatever gun is attached to it.

      For instance: it’s easy enough to find holsters that support the 1911 or Glock with a Surefire or InForce or what have you. But even other popular firearms like the M&P and P320 with a weapon light options get a lot more scant.

      I don’t personally care for the look of it, but as long as it offers positive retention and guards the trigger completely I think it’s a solid idea.

      • Nick

        Raven Concealment, Armordillo Concealment and possibly others already do that, at least for IWB kydex. The Vanguard 3 and X-fer are both light specific and not gun specific, the light is used for retention and the trigger is covered by “wings”. They’re more or less universal (at least the X-fer is).

  • Friend

    I’d never seen the giant Aimpoint on the minigun before. Everyone and their brother makes a dedicated machine gun reflex now.

    • Blake

      Me neither! I was hoping to find some info on it here in the comments.

      • MeaCulpa

        Aimpoint MPS3

  • MrBrassporkchop

    Gonna take a guess before reading. Now it takes hearing aid batteries, lasts 45 seconds at max brightness, and costs $400.

    HEY! I got one thing right!

  • Mmmtacos

    Isn’t that new light called the XH15? The picture indicates as much.

  • Joe Gamer

    Flashlight:
    $30
    Laser pointer:
    $12
    Put it on a gun
    $400

    Is it just me? Am I the crazy one?

    • No you just don’t understand what it takes to make one of these. Sure you can take your $30 flashlight and $12 laser pointer and duct tape them to your AR-15. Chances are the laser pointer won’t hold zero and they will both break due to recoil in short order.

      You take the laser diode and light, first you have to make it shock proof. That takes engineering design and often better quality parts. Next you have to mount the laser diode in mount that is adjustable, but won’t move unless adjusted. Takes the same as above. Next you have to put it in a waterpoof shell which takes more of the above. Finally you have testing you need to validate all the above including formalized testing.

      • MeaCulpa

        Good points regarding the laser bit, sort of like manufacturing scopes.

      • Wow!

        Before picatinny rails became all the rage, people forget the “professionals” tool was a hose clamp and some PVC tubing to mount flashlights to the forends of otherwise smooth SMGs and carbines. A light is a light. Unless it has super power (like some of Surefires) it should not cost over $50. A laser, I can kind of get for zeroing and also generally you want an IR/Vis version, but even then the laser should not hit above a $150 MSRP. This isn’t the 80s anymore! Lasers are cheap.

    • Tom J

      You’re forgetting the Surefire lifetime warranty. If you light ever breaks, they will repair or replace it. They’ve repaired 10 year old lights for me in the past. In fact, they completely disassembled the light, cleaned it, and gave me fresh batteries. So, when you consider that you won’t ever have to pay for a repair, or replacement, the $400 isn’t so bad.

      • MrBrassporkchop

        Lifetime warranties can go both ways. Taurus has it too.

    • MeaCulpa

      The surefire premium is steep, a $ 200 light/laser combo would have been fair but at twice that…. I do get why surefire was expensive in the days of incandescent lights when shock proofing took some serious engineering but in the day and age of LED surefire seems more expensive than what’s really warranted. I get the suspicions that the LE/MIL pricing is heavily discounted while Joe Schmoe is overpaying.

      • Your $200 light/laser is almost guaranteed to be made, often designed in, and/or uses materials sourced from China. Since these items are fairly custom, and low production there is most likely lots of labor involved. I’ve seen videos of Surefire hand soldering circuit boards on a production line.

        So you are paying an American $20 a hour vs a Chinese factory worker that might make $2 a hour.

        Now that is not to say I don’t think that there is a name brand mark up involved, but I don’t think it is as steep as most people thing. And retailers will often cut you deals because there is a healthy profit margin built into their MSRPs.

        • MeaCulpa

          Fair points, my main gripe is with the regular flashlights that has a unrealistic MSRP, decent lasers probably will be a more expensive as the batches are smaller.

        • Nick

          You have to be careful with Surefire because a lot of their “USA Made” lights are actually “Made in the USA with imported parts”. I don’t necessarily care since the electronic parts probably come from China or Japan that have plenty of experience making those parts but at the same time I’m not going to pay extra for something supposedly American made when it’s not.

          • They actually don’t use “Made in the USA” alone anymore because of that. But Surefire restricts it to components that simply aren’t made in the US, like the actual LEDs themselves. The last time I talked to Surefire at SHOT they said that they restrict it to the smallest component level they can. So they might buy the LED, but they mount it to the silicon, put the reflector, and numerous other tasks that could be easily farmed out if they wanted to.

            For me it has nothing to do with quality, but the fact that little of the money sent comes back to the United States. I’ve seen how offshoring has hurt my industry and wish to support American companies because they are more likely to spend money at my business interests.

  • Saint Stephen the Obvious

    “The XH1 is 350 lumens and is designed to work with their new holster.”

    For the love of God and all things holy… that thing is HUGE. The light is almost as big as they Glock 17 blue gun.

    I thought as technology advanced things got smaller… I guess God works in mysterious ways.

    😉

    • The light looks to be about the same length as a X300. To my eye it looks like they took the reflector off a X300, put it in a single cell polymer housing. Which fixes my main complaint with the X300 which is the width.

  • 360_AD

    Steep and the Surefire name go hand-in-hand.

  • noob

    What if the intellibeam detects the backsplash off Ali G’s gold tracksuit, and so helpfully dims the lights for him? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3f025c9848feac3698f70c25b47bdb5d31c916c7574ec20b5e6ca093109b9689.jpg

  • Tom

    I’m actually surprised the MSRP on the XC2 isn’t higher, the non-laser XC1 MSRP is $300, so only $100 more is a steal for the red laser when it comes to surefire prices, if that actually holds true when they come out I’ll be amazed.

    If you look at the X300/X400 series it’s $300 for the non-laser and $600 for the red laser, and $800 for the green laser.

  • Paul Strickland

    Call me old school I guess…but I remember when lasers were science fiction, now there cat toys. And I just can’t get comfortable using my pistol as a handle for a flash light.

  • MATT

    a torch on your gun, is a great way… to get shot, by hidden enemies, in the dark…. unless it is watt strobe as bright as the sun. or a wide beam laser.