BREAKING: Olympic Arms Shutting Down After 40 Years

Olympic Arms

Olympic Arms sent out a notice to dealers and distributors today stating that after many years they will be closing their doors. The letter that was sent out does not go into detail as to why. The end of February will be the last day of operation for the business (February 28th, 2017). Effective immediately today, January 25th, no refunds, returns, or new warranty service work will be accepted. By the wording of the rest of the letter it sounds like operations or production of product has already ceased. Only in inventory product will be available for purchase. The only way to now get a rifle made before March is if Olympic Arms already has all the necessary pieces in house.

This sounds almost like a rumor or “fake news,” but sadly it is true. Olympic Arms has published this information and/or letter on their Facebook page, website, and sent out the letter to its industry partners.

The Schuetz family, who owns Olympic Arms, did not make any formal statements other than what was written in their letter:

The Schuetz family would like to express their heartfelt thanks to all their friends, associates, and partners that have been a part of the Olympic Arms experience. Most of all we would like to thank our loyal customers and patrons who have been with us all this time.

This is very disheartening and surprising to many. The entire letter can be seen below.

Olympic Arms





The outdoors, fitness and anything related to firearms are my passions. I am a S&W Armorer, Glock Armorer, reloader and am coping with an addiction to classic S&W and Colt revolvers (by buying more revolvers). I’ve been a guest writer for Sierra Bullets and love long walks to the gun range.


Advertisement

  • D

    Could not have happened to a worse manufacturer

    • thedarkknightreturns

      What about the trained monkeys that still have a jobs at Century Arms.

      • Joseph Goins

        Don’t worry. James Yeager still gives them free advertisements. They’ll be around.

        • AC97

          I think you’re forgetting about Sootch…

          • Joseph Goins

            James Yeager: “Your responsibility to defend Century Arms never ends.”
            Sootch00: “Be of good courage. God bless America. Long live Century Arms.”

          • Cozmolyne

            Don’t be so hard on Scootch. Yeah, he has gone the infomerical route but I still find his videos enjoyable.

            And he’s not a completely intolerable human being, unlike James “I’M A WAAAARRIOOOOOR” Yeager.

          • Sunshine_Shooter

            Sootch isn’t a human being, but a billboard.

          • PersonCommenting

            They are all becoming that way. If they arent bragging about how new media rocks then they are selling out to companies just like the old media.

        • n0truscotsman

          That was a big facepalm for me.

          I’ve been around century arms firearms (not willingly) for over a decade now, and they still haven’t convinced me they’re good to go.

          If they haven’t got the AK thing down by now, Im not going to hold my breath.

          • thedarkknightreturns

            Agree 100% they are just awful.

        • thedarkknightreturns

          lol

      • Dr. Longfellow Buchenrad

        Yes, but while Century may not (but still may; not an argument Im getting into here) sell good stuff, it is at least different and therefore they seem to keep doing alright; They often sell cheaper versions of less common and more expensive guns that many people deem to be sufficient.

        If you want cheap ARs, you have many sources. If you want cheap other things, Century is often your only source.

        • PersonCommenting

          Century has a lot of good imports.

          • thedarkknightreturns

            They may import things, but they don’t seem to know how to put them together, to save their lives.

        • roguetechie

          Very true.. People don’t seem to realize that century is the reason there’s ANY examples of multiple guns even available in the US…

          You know those very few FAMAS rifles available here and there?

          Yup, there’d be ZERO available at any price if it weren’t for Century!!

          those few semiautomatic RSAF Enfield L85 rifles you see available for $20,000+ asking prices because they’re so rare?

          Yup… CENTURY

        • PersonCommenting

          I have never had any problem with century imports. Never had a rifle but all of their imported pistols are fine.

          Actually I take that back. I had a mosin by CAI and and a VZ58 by CAI. They worked fine.

      • roguetechie

        … At least century’s monkeys work CHEAP and put out products DEEP…

      • Longhaired Redneck

        I take exception to your description of ‘trained monkeys’ at Century Arms. Trained monkeys could not have assembled the junky AKM pattern underfolder l bought a few years ago, clearly they were not trained. It wouldn’t fire 2 rounds consecutively without manually ejecting the empty. As best I could could diagnose, the receiver was twisted in such a way as to bind the piston/bolt carrier preventing it from cycling. Possibly the rivet holes for the front trunnion were a few thousandths off. Century declined to warranty the rifle. I sold it at a loss and used that money to partially pay for my Colt Python. Trained monkeys would have no problem assembling a fully functioning AKM pattern rifle.

        • thedarkknightreturns

          lol

    • Porty1119

      Remington is still out there.

      • Major Tom

        So is Taurus.

        • thedarkknightreturns

          Yea, I don’t know how they hang in there. The Brazilian military and police agencies have had a ton of trouble with their stuff for years.

  • RogUinta

    Seriously, how is this is sad? There are SO MANY other piss-poor companies to buy low-quality rifles from. Oly won’t be missed.

    • CS

      Olympic was the only company to make an AR rifle in 22-250, which i seriously considered buying due to cost and ease of ammo availability.

      • Kefefs

        APF still makes a .22-250 AR-10.

      • Sunshine_Shooter

        What ammo availability? When a there’s a run on .223 (the most panic-prone), .22-250 will dry up. Believe me, I know from personal experience.

        • CS

          Secrets man, secrets.

    • iksnilol

      I dunno, they kinda innovated with their OA-93.

    • Cozmolyne

      Not to mention the fact that they’re responsible for the Chinese steal core ban and broke the ice for the “sporting purpose” clause to apply to rifle ammunition (7n6, green tip).

      F them.

  • APDT66

    Breaking news: Olympic Arms was still is business before this press release.

    • Chippathingy

      Yeah, tell me. I’ve lived in WA 44 years and I’ve seen some really lemons come out of that factory. I really liked their Safari 1911s but you couldn’t pay me to take one of their ARs. Buffer tube extension threads/holes that were off center. Out of spec ejection port covers that when closed would effectively lock the rifle up. AR pistols that you couldn’t cycle manually that I doubt would ever function with live ammo, etc etc.

  • MarcoPolo

    And so, my boycott of Oly Arms comes to an end. Gun folks have a LONG memory. I’m looking at you Troy….

    • RSG

      Troy and Cheaper than Dirt for me.

    • CS

      Why troy?

      • J.T.

        They hired the former FBI sniper that murdered Vicky Weaver during the Ruby Ridge standoff.

        • Kivaari

          That is not what they say. They hired one of the FBI snipers that did NOT shoot but said he would have. They also tried bringing in a very anti-gun former top cop from Chicago.

      • roguetechie

        Because they hired an ex FBI sniper whose sole qualification if you can call it that and not vomit…

        Is that he’s one of the guys responsible for the cowardly disgusting disgraceful and if anyone without an FBI badge had done the same thing they’d have exhausted every appeal long before now and been executed rather than hired by Troy and still proud of his repugnant murder of Randy Weaver’s wife basically for no other reason than sadism and for the thrill of murdering a woman for fun and because who’s gonna stop you?

    • Why have you been boycotting Olympic Arms? Did they pull a Troy?

      • MarcoPolo

        Oly arms made a pistol that chambered the cheap steel core Russian ammo, despite being warned that the ATF would ban its import if they did so. They did anyway and the ATF banned it, then they claimed stupidity. Say goodbye to $75/1000 Russian ammo. Troy hired part of the Ruby ridge sniper team that killed the un-armed nursing mother then called it a “good shoot”. Google “Jody Weis troy”, I’d post a link but TFB takes a while to approve links.

        • PersonCommenting

          Oh I heard about the troy thing now. Didnt know the context in detail though. Just heard it on a podcast. Good to know.

        • Oh I’ve known about Troy for a long time. Despite wanting one of their reproduction XM177E2s (badly) I refuse to patron them for the reason you mentioned. Didn’t know that Olympic Arms triggered that. Eff those guys.

          • Edeco

            I’m all about boycotting Troy for working with the Angel of Death, I think Ruger and Smith are lucky to be forgiven as much as they have been.

            But I’m shocked people would blame Oly Arms for what the ATF did, just because part of it was a stupid line in the sand that Oly happened to cross, in the course of their normal business no less. I’m sorry to say it reminds me of something a fudd would do, like when they want to throw AR & AK users under the bus.

        • Gabe Is Fat

          An AK Pistol? If Oly didn’t build it someone else would have and we’d end with the same result.

    • Kivaari

      Memories are long. Even though they improved quality in the later years the early guns were junk. There was no sense of quality control, especially on internal parts. We bought several parts kits from Olympic and the parts were rejects that could not be fitted together in a satisfactory manner. That was the normal condition in those years 30-40 years back. I never forgot, so I just stopped buying anything with their label. Dealers in the PNW in particular learned to avoid them. Regardless of how good they may have become. There ARE too many AR makers.

    • PersonCommenting

      Why Oly Arms? Didnt they refused to sell to NY although idk if agencies were buying them anyways.

  • Z.F.G.

    • Thomas Gomez

      Ogre! Wish you were still writing about guns and bbq. Hope this finds you well!

      • Thanks man. Things are well… Triumph Motorcycles is sending me to the Florida Keys to ride the new Bobber. And I’m having a great time in the Motorcycle Industry.
        I’ll be writing more about guns soon though.

        • Geoff Timm

          George! Be careful on those suped-up bicycles!
          Geoff
          Who made a major and painful mistake on a Yamaha 250 in his youth.

          • You mean, like the 1299 Panigale, or S1000RR? Yup. Thank goodness these bikes are safer than ever with GOOD intelligent ABS and Traction Control and Stability Control.
            Downside is that we are still on the roads with jackholes that can’t put down their phones.

        • Thomas Gomez

          Good to hear amigo!

  • Wang Chung Tonight
  • nadnerbus

    Beginning of the end for the AR15 bubble? The market can’t keep supporting all these manufacturers forever. Federal gunmageddon was averted (for the moment), future sales can’t keep climbing the way they have for the last 8 to 10 years.

    • Joseph Goins

      I have long said this.

      • roguetechie

        As long as YOU bear every penny of the exorbitant costs for production and etc so that the rest of us don’t have to subsidize your nostalgia tripping inferior toys

        • Joseph Goins

          Ok, grandpa. Let’s get you back to the nursing home.

          • roguetechie

            …WTF..

            It’s like I tried to go to TFB… And got redirected to a FUDD echo chamber…

            It’s OK though… Wanna know why?

            Because the industry as a whole… Hates Fudds for the same reasons I listed…

            So all y’all enjoy your FUDD circle jerk in here….

            But, it won’t change the fact that no one is dumb enough to make guns for all y’all anymore…

          • Joseph Goins

            WTF are you talking about? Who is “y’all”? You aren’t even making coherent thoughts. What the hell does “as long as YOU bear every penny of the exorbitant costs for production and etc so that the rest of us don’t have to subsidize your nostalgia tripping inferior toys” even mean? Where did I say anything about any of that? How does what said — agreeing that the AR market now to big support all of the companies in it — in any way make me a FUDD? It’s economics, my friend.

          • PersonCommenting

            I dont think any of us said we hate ARs, there are just a ton of them. And when someone complains about a new gun that is new people complain about the price. I am not one of them. I like ARs but I like stuff that has been blued and has a nice pretty wood stock as well. Id like to see more people put out a semi auto that is innovative but has a classic exterior. Or handguns of the same mentality. Just me. I will pay big money to get some of that too.

          • Joseph Goins

            I wish every home in America had an AR. The demand will be low in the Trump-era because gun control won’t be an issue. The supply is just as high as and the price per unit can’t really go up because of the amount of competition. Both of those indicate that a bubble is about to happen.

          • PersonCommenting

            Agreed. They need to diversify and honestly I dont see ARs selling in my stores since november. I see used guns and surplus stuff being moved off the shelves. This shows there is an interest. I said this right after trump was elected. We will see more imported surplus guns and we will seem more people trading older guns and older military surplus now that they know they can replace it for the time being. It is happening.

          • Joseph Goins

            I’ve seen the price drop on many guns since New Years Eve. Shops are trying to liquidate their stock.

          • PersonCommenting

            I shop at 2 stores primarily. One deals in high end stuff both rifles and pistols and even some ordinary handguns that they use to sell for like 30-75 bucks under MSRP have dropped. They are going for a guntry club type thing. Even have cigar lounge and host wedding parties. Anyways I was surprised that their prices have dropped on ordinary stuff like M&Ps and Ruger Americans.

          • George Carnahan

            I have told new shooters that buying just one ugly gun will eventually lead to a complete loss of virtue.

          • Porty1119

            The industry as a whole is full of roid-raging idiots with more magazine capacity than IQ points.

          • PersonCommenting

            Its not a fudd thing, it is just wanting something different. I have ARs and really like them but I would like to see something a little different. People love innovation but they dont want to pay for it. So many guns out there that are innovative and then the gun community shuns them for doing what every one claims they want …. Either because of price or because it is so new people dont trust it. I find it laughable.

            Now to my point I would like to see some new designs with modern techniques of semi autos and other actions that have a classic exterior. I dont think there is anything wrong with that. I like wood and blued steel. I think now that we dont have to be worried for a short time about bans we could get some of this as we have a president that isnt seeking gun control. ARs wont go away because someone company focuses on a non military sporting rifle…

          • JW

            I drive a Dodge pickup, but my sister likes the Ford pickups and my brother in law prefers the classic Chevrolet pickups.
            We all ain’t the same and we all like different things. My sis and my brother in law rag me all the time about my Dodge. But, ya know what? It still gets the job done.
            Same thing for firearms, in my opinion. (I know – no one asked for my opinion – but ya got it anyway!)

          • PersonCommenting

            Well this is a comment section so I would expect that unlike some people who apparently just wants everyone to think like they do.

          • E Wolfe

            One of the major, recent innovations to a pistol is Ruger’s Mark IV line. A push button, flip up access for bolt removal and straight line bore cleaning from the chamber. I’ve made too many improvements to my Mark III to justify buying the M IV, but I wouldn’t turn one down as a gift–with a threaded barrel.

          • Kivaari

            Really? That’s why there are reproduction M1 carbines, M14s. M1s, M1873, M92, M87, 85, 97, SAA, M1858, M1860, early M16s and so many more. Who is subsidizing anything except the people that buy all those replica firearms. Old designs are big business. Just what do you have against retro models of guns?

          • E Wolfe

            And you can still purchase a perfect repro of the main Union Civil War rife (1861 Springfield .58-Cal. Musket) for a bit over 1K from Cabela’s. They carry a truly sweet line of cap and ball and flintlock pistol and rifles. Along with a complement of modern arms, one of my prized possessions, and a great deer rifle, is a Great Plains .50 black powder and lead ball rifle.

        • George Carnahan

          If it isn’t a Colt, it’s only a copy.

          • Bill

            And if it is a Colt, you got reamed on the price.

          • roguetechie

            Well if it isn’t a colt …

            Neither was the gun Stoner built by stoner at armalite who licensed it to the dutch company whose initials are AI…Who honed stoner’s original further, but eventually AI could go no further…

            Once again it was up to Armalite to get back into the fight!!!

            But Stoner was now with Cadillac Gage…

            But luckily Armalite had Sullivan and new things were in the air at APG!

            And between APG, Sullivan who was one helluva draftsman unafraid to lead Armalite into round 3 of the fight!!!

            Between his hard work, and Curtis Lemay’s joy and excitement at witnessing the great watermelon slaughter!!!

            What the hell Lemay figured, he could use a couple hundred thousand for his SP’s!!!

        • Bill

          Groan. Still on the powder thing, are we?

    • Major Tom

      I’d hope so. The gun industry needs a swift kick to the nads so it can get around to ya know, innovating instead of making yet-another-AR-clone.

      • PersonCommenting

        What else do you want? Everyone says innovation but what more could they do? I personally would like to see a resurgence in traditional looking firearms. I love ARs but some semi auto rifles in traditional stocks would be nice to see. More lever gun competition would be cool too. I feel like the tactical bubble has got to pop sometime.

        • Porty1119

          Leverguns, semiautos and pump rifles with wood stocks, basically traditional stuff.

          • Kivaari

            They don’t sell well.

          • PersonCommenting

            They would if they were made well. I mean you basically have Henry making reasonable priced lever guns but many people dont like the tube load from the front magazine they have. Also their marketing isnt that great either. Know one knows about them and they have no competition so they can charge what they want as well. I really thought wed see more lever guns with the magazine fed Loan Ranger model they have but no one knows about the gun.

          • Dakota Raduenz

            I don’t care for the tube feed, prefer the side gate. Really no reason, but eliminates an entire company which is unfortunate.

          • PersonCommenting

            I completely agree with you. Only one on my radar is the lone ranger. I do not like top load feeding tubes.

          • Jim H

            That’s because everyone wants to look like they are the real life version of who they imagine themselves as when they’re playing Call of Duty. I want my weaponry to be just like I want my vehicles to be. Nondescript, unassuming and quiet but kicks ass when I need it to.

          • roguetechie

            No… Not traditional at all… The words you’re looking for are things like excessively expensive to manufacture designs which are simultaneously inferior in every way to boot…

            That’s not traditional… It’s asininely clinging to a past that no one but the baby boomers remembers or cares about while simultaneously having the typical boomer arrogance and sheer misplaced sense of entitlement to think that the rest of us OWE you in some perverse way which makes the rest of us gun buyers somehow obligated to subsidize your wants to boot because the one other maxim of the boomer parasites is being penny pinching A holes when it comes to their own money to a point where they believe it’s OK to make everyone else pay more money for actually economically producible and in every technical sense exponentially superior firearms as well…

            All so you can pay $279 for a gun that costs $350 just to manufacture… Not that you guys care that your stupid nostalgia items actually cost everyone else $150 every time you selfish boomers plunk down your $279 for another of your stupid nostalgia gun

          • Porty1119

            Wow, I haven’t seen that level of self-righteous emotional outburst since the last video compilation of SJW snowflake meltdowns I laughed at. Let’s dismantle your argument:

            1) I’m a 21-year-old engineering student, not one of the Baby Boomers you so despise.

            2) I don’t think that you owe me anything. The firearms industry as a whole has been binging on tacticool junk for the past decade. I don’t buy new firearms because new firearms don’t interest me. The most modern firearm I own is an A1/A2 retro AR-15 using original Colt M16 furniture. I got legitimately excited to hear about Brownells expanding its retro line. To satisfy the recent market insanity created by ban scares, the industry has been pumping out cheez-whiz tacticool products ad nauseam, and largely forgot about shooters who prefer more traditional designs. I don’t want a $300 bolt gun with a stock made out of extruded milk jugs and an action that seizes when run hard, I want a $400-500 levergun with tight fit and finish, proper heat-treating, and a smooth action. I know that that product will make a profit, because that’s what Marlin did for over a hundred years before getting bought out and gutted by Freedom Group.

            3) We’re subsidizing you? No, we aren’t. Loss-leaders went out the door in about 1963.

            4) Inferior? I…don’t really think you know what you’re talking about. A high-cost weapons system with limited availability does the same thing as a low-cost system with excellent availability. Technology has plateaued; your plastic stuff is no better than wood and steel.

            Please go back to high school and get some perspective, assuming that you’re not still in high school.

          • PersonCommenting

            He is a complete troll. Also I am not a boomer. I was born in the 90s…

          • PersonCommenting

            The fact that people are looking for Retro ARs proves this trend is coming around .As soon as they see those they will discover a whole host of other guns they can get that have a rich history and classic look. It is why masterpiece arms is in business, It is why Century arms is in business, it is why czech point still makes the original scorpion. There is a trend here and I think it is coming. Now that we dont have to worry about bans we can focus on the stuff that was less likely to get banned at first.

          • George Carnahan

            Great post!

          • PersonCommenting

            What the helll dude? Never said anything was owed to me. I just would like to see more and they can build stuff in a modern innovative way that still meets what I would like to see. If I saw something cool that was well made and wasnt all tacticooled out I would pay for it. Like I said I love ARs and the latest Military sporting guns guns. I have 3 ARs and a mini 14 but I liked to see something different than that.

          • Bill

            That has got to be the longest sentence in firearms history! Are you a descendant of the guy who wrote the NFA?

          • roguetechie

            I guess I might be some unknown descendant

          • PersonCommenting

            How does it costs others when I buy a gun? Also what guns cost 350? You said excessively expensive. That is cheap even for a surplus.

          • roguetechie

            Ok so really short kinda funny version… Mostly because that $350 number comes right around LOL

            Ok so say I was one of the guys who missed the boat on the last shipment of $399 swiss straight pull bolt actions.

            I know of some actually really nice $299 bolt actions I can go buy NIB right now.

            Now since these exist why can’t I get a brand new swiss straight pull at big 5 for $400? I know swiss wood stocks and a just BARELY different operating mechanism can’t cost that much more!!!

            Right???

            Wait, no that’s not how it works?

            ….

            Yeah, I know that was my point!!

            P.S: did I mention I have 3 milsurp swiss rifles? Or that I managed to lay in a stupid large stash of gp11 ammo? Or that the first two I bought were right around $400 each including I think 100-250 rounds of gp11 apiece?

            Personally I knew I was lucky to score either the guns or the ammo that cheap!

            I don’t even wanna think what my nice swiss rifles would cost to buy new manufacture today…

            Even the gp11 … Yeah, haha if I wanted to buy ammunition of comparable quality to shoot from comparable guns… I figure if I GOT LUCKY and bought in bulk I’d pay $2.00-$3.00 per round.

            Versus my milsurp gp11 the very last shipment of which wasn’t even .75 cents a round AFTER the delivery right to my door.

          • PersonCommenting

            What that makes no sense? The surplus guns are cheap because they were made years ago and if they made a new one it would be with todays cost of production. I have no Idea what you are saying? Who is your drug dealer? Probs should look at his quality control….

          • roguetechie

            See you did actually understand…!!!

            Because yup that’s what I’ve been saying is that surplus guns are so cheap because they’re not just old, but also because government surplus guns were already paid for at FULL asking price!

            So the prices for older surplus guns are realistically far more distorted than the gun buying public even assumes.

        • Nashvone

          Bolt action shotguns, just to show up those Krieghoff snobs.

        • FrenchKiss

          Amen. More weapons of iron and wood. And bring back lever actions from the 19th century.

          • PersonCommenting

            And bluing. So sad that Smith and Wesson and Ruger have gotten away from bluing in their revolvers. Yes they still make them but not in every model.

          • Kivaari

            Those lever guns are out there for high dollars. Nice, but pretty useless except for plinking. Even Marlins are now over-priced and unreliable. I’ve worked in the gun industry for 50 years. Few people want to spend the money for “traditional” semi-auto, lever and pump rifles. It’s nearly impossible to sell Remington M7600-types, 7400-types or regular lever actions. Cowboy action shooting is a regional thing. Hunters in our region want bolt action rifles and not just the cheap promotional items. BUT, they wont pay the price of nice wood and high gloss bluing.

          • PersonCommenting

            I wouldnt mind seeing some nice wood and blue on a handgun either. I get it, it would be expensive. Why you rarely see some of the extremely nice beretta, czech, and browning hunting rifles. I think if the demand priced up we may see that. I will say I would like to see more bluing on handguns. It couldnt be that much more than parkerizing. Or the cheap process that glock uses that runs off.

          • Kivaari

            What cheap process on Glocks that runs off? I packed one for over 10 years and it hardly showed bright spots on the edges of the slide. It is one tough finish.

          • PersonCommenting

            I have holster wear on the two front corners and one on the side. Also my slide release is nearly completely gray. I have had it for a year.

          • PersonCommenting

            I like the gun, just dont think much of the finish on my Gen 4 G19.

          • PersonCommenting

            Edit. I have had it 2 years now.

          • Porty1119

            Hmm, that must be a regional thing. JM Marlins practically fly off the shelves here in the Ozarks; I guess folks can just sense quality firearms. 7400-series rifles don’t sell because they are unreliable turds with a life limited by receiver wear. It’s a real shame too, since the 7400 is (at least on paper) damn near my dream all-purpose high-power rifle.

            Honestly, high-grade wood and ultra-high-gloss bluing aren’t requirements for me- “good enough” really is good enough. A few coats of Tru-Oil willhave a lackluster piece of wood looking quite nice. My hope is to see high-quality (mechanically speaking) firearms with good, traditional-looking fit and finish at a fair (note that I didn’t say cheap) price. Henry has it exactly right; I just can’t get over that damn loading system.

          • Kivaari

            Old Marlins sell well. New stuff not so much.

        • Random Disabled Person.

          What I want,
          Quality, by that I mean quality control… Not grinding parts out at what the market can bare for inflated values. While having tolerances measured in something other than “smoots”

          Too bad it wasn’t a joint announcement with Troy and Cheaper Than Dirt. As has been said. We all have the long memory of them being begged not to do something. Not to push with a line in the sand drawn by Agency that’s ego and ability to react to perceived butthurt is vast. Their market was mainly AR’s why did they care about those AK people they were going to burn. If ammo cost the same or more, it might bring them more customers(Not!).

          Own one lower that I bought for the upper,mix-matched, I can at least send it behind ban lines but feel bad about unloading it on to them. Knowing that they are thankful for any that they can get, just sad what the market has turned into…

          Can’t wait to see if a “Retro Olympic Arms AR” group forms….. Hunting down parts in a dwindling market with lots of bad parts to begin with. That will be a very frustrating build to stay true to form, for a shooter at least.

        • Brett

          You are right. Everyone wants innovation but are unwilling to pay the price. You can see the comments. One post you see “Not another AR” and the next “I can buy 2 AR’s at that price.” It’s ridiculous.

          • PersonCommenting

            Exactly or the crap on the designs that require expensive magazines or accessories. All they want is detachable parts/gear. That is what they call innovation…

        • roguetechie

          … Considering that the AR15 is eligible for AARP…

          It IS A TRADITIONAL RIFLE…

          the proper terminology for your desired items is OBSOLETE…

          I guess retro works too..

          But really why not just admit you’re a FUDD with all the stupid FUDD prejudices

          • PersonCommenting

            I own ARs man. I love them. And yeah the AR is old. I get that but I would like to see something like what Browning has done with their BAR a little bit more from other manufactures. Maybe some other semi autos as well. Not a fudd at all, most of my guns are are semi auto handguns and rifles made of plastic. I would just like to see some nice bluing and traditional stalks. Nothing wrong with that. And some new designs with classic exteriors.

          • Kivaari

            The trouble with most semi-auto sporting rifles is they are fragile. The owners do not know how to clean the guns. One of the most common thing one finds with all the Remington M7400, Winchester M100 and Browning BARs is the gas system is never cleaned and lubed. Then the chambers, especially on the Remington’s (the most common) are rusted and pitted. People do better with military style rifles as they are easily field stripped and cleaned.
            Even bolt action rifles don’t get the care they need. I don’t know how many rifles I have found where the bolt has never been taken apart, cleaned and lubed. It is rare to find an AR15 that hasn’t had the bolt cleaned. It’s just people seem to enjoy taking them apart.

          • PersonCommenting

            Yeah but is that by hunters who arent really that into guns or buy gun people. Idk, maybe I am completely off. Maybe gun people just buy surplus cause it can be less expensive and they wont buy BARs because they are too pricey so hunters who arent gun people will spend the money on them because they are only going to own a hand full of guns anyways.

          • Kivaari

            Sporting rifles need to feature quick disassembly just like military rifles. That way most people will clean them. After 50 years of doing gun business the biggest issue with gun owners is a failure to clean the guns. I’ve contended that 95% of gunsmithing is cleaning.

        • Disarmed in CA

          “Innovation” is illegal in California, we only regress.

          • TSF

            Washington too.

          • Whiskey7Actual

            Wouldn’t say that, if that where true the bullet button wouldn’t exist and their wouldn’t be any ar15s in California. The funny thing is you can purchase an echo trigger in California but not up here in Oregon?

          • Bill

            Until CA’s tyrants read your post, anyway.

          • Whiskey7Actual

            Just wait until the libtards in San Francisco get a peek of the fostech echo trigger! Strangely enough you can purchase the trigger in California and not Oregon!
            https://fostechoutdoors.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=15

          • Bill

            What? Isn’t CA the bastion of the Progressive Movement? Oh yeah-different funds.

        • TSF

          Buy a Henry.

          • PersonCommenting

            I probably will buy the lever action model with a magazine. Other than their 22s that is the only one that interests me. I want a side loading gate.

          • Porty1119

            The Long Ranger looks frigging sweet! My precision rifle may well be built on a levergun- 6.5 Creedmoor is rumored for it, and that’s just the type of schizo-tech I love.

        • E Wolfe

          My only desire is to see the word tactical disappear from anything which isn’t a conversation on tactics or their execution. I mean, really, tactical shorts? Etc. GMAFB!

      • TDog

        Yet watch all the gun sites, gun mags, and fan boys go crazy over how the next “new” AR is sooooo revolutionary!

      • Anonymoose

        They had that fancy lower that took normal AR uppers and special uppers with single-stack .308 and .300WSM mags, though…

      • BrandonAKsALot

        Too bad anytime anyone tries anything different, everyone moans and groans about it being unnecessary and no one needs it etc etc. Mall ninja blah blah

    • roguetechie

      … I don’t know that I’d be so definite about what can/can’t when it comes to the industry especially since several separate things are poised to if anything see unprecedented numbers of first time buyers for the next 4+ years…

      Hell we may see whole new subsets of people buying their first gun ever and their tenth gun all within their first 30 days as gun owners

      • Porty1119

        Dude, your tactical bubble is bursting. Not many people have the money to buy a firearm every three days, especially not your beloved cheez-whiz tactiturds.

        • roguetechie

          … Not my bubble… I am just as eager to see things evolve and grow….

          Just not recursively like this FUDD nest wants…

          • PersonCommenting

            New people will get in. I agree with part of your statement. I am not anti tactical at all just would like to see other stuff as well.

    • Kivaari

      The bubble burst November 8th. We wanted Trump to win, but we also knew it would hurt gun sales. Locally all the gun stores I visit say sales are down. That includes black guns. But collector stuff still has a market, there just isn’t enough of it in circulation in our area.

      • PersonCommenting

        I think the collector and surplus market will boom in states that have private sales and some of that will spill over into gun shops. You will have people that want to get rid of older stuff now that they dont have to fear a ban and not being able to get it again.

      • Joseph Goins

        The bad thing about the election is that many shops purchased a lot of goods on credit based on the likelihood of Hillary Clinton winning the election. Now, those guns aren’t being bought because the community isn’t afraid of gun control. I don’t think it’s fair to those shops to basically say “I’m going to spend my money on other things since I don’t have to worry anymore but thanks for thinking of us.” No, I went out and bought the same seven items I planned on buying: three Sig MCXs, three Sig MPXs, and one H&K MR762A1.

        • Kivaari

          That’s the gamble in business. It may drive some people out of business. If they over spent, there are ways out of it. Not all of them painless.

      • MichaelZWilliamson

        The bubble burst several months after Sandy Hook. People maxed out everything between then and when the gun control bills counter to it failed. Everyone who didn’t already have an AR bought them then. It’ll be years before the market recovers.

        Just like the people who bought pallets of .22 because the government was stealing it to prevent a revolution or whatever.

        • Kivaari

          Locally, sales were going strong until November 9th. Quite a few high end guns in the mix.

  • valorius

    Survival of the fittest.

  • Joseph Goins

    I bet that their downfall was accelerated by betting against Trump in the election.

  • Carl Mumpower

    Thank you for filling a lot of hands over a lot of years. Your products covered the gamut of AR opportunities. Sill value my 35 year old flutted barrel and match trigger on my Olympic Arms AR. Best wishes forward and thanks, again, for your family’s good touch.

  • RSG

    I’m an AR enthusiast and Olympic has never been on my radar.

    • PersonCommenting

      I wanted one of their 9mm ARs but they were never in stock. I kind of thought this was coming.

  • Lance

    Sad day Olys made after 1994 had much better reputation. Shot combat rifle matches and Olys out shot at the time the much vaunted Bushmasters every time. Well that makes a BIG opening for Areo, Mega, and Fr33dm arms for Pacific NW AR makers market.

  • PersonCommenting

    Definitely saw this one coming… They have had products that have been impossible to get over the last couple years.

  • Gregory

    I have no use for the AR15, my IWI X95 suits me just fine.

    • Suppressed

      Can’t tell if bait or srs…

      • 22winmag

        He’s kidding about the 2nd rate bullpup.

  • ozzallos .

    Remember, kids– warranties are only guaranteed until they’re not. Or in this case, 1-25-2017.

    • Random Disabled Person

      Love how they are all “Hey we’re going out of business, if you haven’t sent in your warranty work yet, you’re screwed….” Classy to the end.

      • Independent George

        How would they be able to perform warranty service if they’re no longer in business?

        • Random Disabled Person

          I think you missed the point. No one expects them to do warranty when fully closed up shop and parts sold off in liquidation. . Nor did I imply that.

          Although there are companies in selling their business have transferred the warranty service as a condition of the sale. Those folks treated their customers as appreciated buyers not just as their meal ticket to bleed as much as they can.

          When closing, companies should try to make sure to fix as many of their warranty repairs that they can. While an AR is interchangeable, certain parts and marks means factory original which is worth more, especially since their value will be a used collector’s item. The business model of “Caveat Emptor” does not mean I’m shutting my door let me shaft as many of my customers as I can. What logic is that? Something like, ” if those people had bought more , we might still be in operation. So screw them right? Take the money and run while folding up shop. While dissolving the corporation leaving customers left holding the bag of poo. Which will get sold to first time and uneducated newbie gun owners, which is a great way to encourage them to stay gun owners.

          A fair solution?
          A simple we’re closing announcement listing a certain time period (say 2-3months notice with a please make sure you have shipped your firearms/parts in by a future cut-off date , “No later than 30 days as of today’s date on of this closing notice” giving them the remaining 60+ days in the above to get them fixed and returned. After that date we will no longer accept warranty repairs. As we will finish the warranty work received and then start liquidating all assets.

          The we’re closing announcement and are cutting off warranty right at that announcement is just one more finger, of one too many from the company to their customers and product users. They have probably known they were going to close for while and could have said , we’re closing in a few months, please make sure you have sent in warranty needed repairs by____

          Equally,
          People are bad about waiting to send in repair items and many set aside the item meaning to send it off but fail to before the warranty runs out. So such an announcement may have made no difference. With a factor of everything always break right at the end of the warranty period for something stupid.

          • MichaelZWilliamson

            It could be they’re not profitable, hung on as long as they could and lost their lease. It could be someone is old and has to retire ASAP or have health issues.

            They put out notice, rather than just shuttering. That seems fair. I guess it’s not what you want, though, so obviously, they should…what, exactly? Take advice from some dude on the internet?

      • PersonCommenting

        I mean they made ARs, not BARs… Not like you couldnt fix your AR your self or a gun smith. You just take out the bad part and throw a new one in. 10 to 20 bucks and youre good.

  • Sasquatch

    Quality over priced ar15s…. Even though I never really had an opinion on Olympic arms, It just seems like you pay for the name with the three “top tier” ar15.

    • Sunshine_Shooter

      The reason it “seems” that way is because you haven’t done research.

      • Sasquatch

        About?

      • PersonCommenting

        Why is a Corvette cost more than a Chevy SS? Both go fast? Both have a V8? Both have lots of technology and get someone from A-B. Why? Well of course it is partly because of the name but also people like knowing their gun is made of higher quality materials and by skilled labors. For the average person wont notice and wont see a performance difference but some will and some just like knowing it is capable and over built.

    • Christian Hedegaard-Schou

      Just because you can’t afford it, or won’t pay the price doesn’t mean they are over-priced.

      • Sasquatch

        So tell me what a $500 to $800 ar15 doesn’t do or have compare to a $1200+ ar 15.

        • Sunshine_Shooter

          Well, here’s a good place to start: primaryandsecondary(dot)com/quality-ar15/. If you are really interested in seeing what the differences are, that website and accompanying forum is full of small details and reasons as to why ARs from reputable companies cost more. Mainly it’s the extra cost and time associated with quality control & assurance, but also from better components.

          If you are just here to argue that a $500 PSA special is absolutely as good as a Daniel Defense, respond to someone else.

          • Sasquatch

            Hey that $500 psa special will do what you need it to with boring reliability and accuracy. Now I know that “top tier” have a better barrel bolt and triggers, but for almost $2000 seem to be a tad over priced and hyped. Over the 1000 mark I think its more a hyped product than anything.

        • PersonCommenting

          There are plenty of differences between say a DPMS and a DD rifle. Will an average shooter notice them as far as performance? Probably not but some definitely will. Some also appreciate the overbuiltness and high quality parts. Also of course you are paying for the Daniel Defense name and others like them. Their are definitely less expensive rifles of the same quality. I guarantee at least 10% of the price is because of the name but even if you look at other high end rifle companies of the same size and quality you are still going to be shelling out a grand for their product. Why? Because it costs money to make these high quality guns.

    • Independent George

      I think that’s the wrong comparison. I don’t think the top-tier ARs are overpriced compared to other manufacturers – I think they’re overpriced compared to what you can build yourself.

      • Sasquatch

        Very true.

  • Just Sayin’

    Olympic Who?

    • uisconfruzed

      I’m guessing by your name and comment, you’re a whipper snipper.

  • i1776

    Good riddance. They have never been good. I know this first hand…

  • Wolfgar

    For many years they were the only game in town except for Colt in the AR market. They made a lot of innovative AR systems before anyone else did and made it affordable which today people take for granted. I blame the idiotic gun laws not Olympic. It was a fun journey watching Olympic’s quality improve as well as the interest in the AR platform. They pioneered a lot of the AR interest as well as the varying uses. Sorry to see them go.

  • 22winmag

    Great… now “millennial” AR companies run by millennials can swoop in.

    • GD Ajax

      Most millennials can do better than invest in the worst AR-15s on the market. Many are old enough to remember the Dot com crash.

    • APDT66

      What in the world is this even supposed to mean?

      • No one

        That’s a very good question.

        • APDT66

          Maybe he can give Olympic one of those participation trophies his generation whines about even though they invented them.

  • Pranqster

    Who?

  • Geoff Timm

    Any word on the tooling for the .22 pistol? How about the AR-180B tooling?
    Geoff
    Who didn’t see anything at Olympic he needed.

  • Sunshine_Shooter

    Now if only we could get rid of CTD…

  • Lou

    I began buying their receivers and parts back when they were SGW in the late 1970s/early 1980s. I see some negative comments about them here but you younger guys need to realize that Olympic Arms was the FIRST real innovator in the AR-15 market with caliber conversions back 30 years ago as well as some great “out of the box” products/accessories back when most other AR-15 companies (only about a dozen back then) were only making CAR-15s as their signature products.

    The problems I saw with Olympic is that they offered some of their innovative products for sale, namely the caliber conversions, while they were still in a “prototype” stage and not perfected which enabled other companies to copy their ideas and refine them. Olympic Arms was the real innovator in the AR-15 market in the 80s and 90s. The other problem was VERY poor marketing, branding and advertising efforts.

    Very sad. Olympic could have owned much of the market had they brought in an experienced engineering director to perfect their ideas as well as an experienced marketing team – not the ones who are run by 20 or 30-somethings who only know social media and have no experience growing firearms businesses.

    The year 2017 is the year the “rubber meets the road” in regard to gun company sales now that the free ride of Obama gun ban sales is over. AR-15 companies who are operating as parts assemblers and trying to get $1,500 – $3,000 for an AR-15 are going to go under unless they refine their marketing efforts by hiring firearm marketing experts WITH a track record in business development and add much innovation. If they think that they can just get free articles written about their products, “tweet” and get Facebook “likes” and that will drive their books into the black, they are severely mistaken. The race to the bottom has begun and we will see a $395 AR-15 by 2018 if not by the end of the year. Expect to see hundreds of the small AR companies sell out or go under.

  • Captain Obvious

    Olympic Arms aka SGW was one of the first companies to make and sell ARs other than Colt back in the day. My first AR was a SGW “stop sign” marked rifle which I only sold because it was a preban and a guy from Mass begged me to sell it to him. It is rather sad they are going out of business and rather puzzling that they didn’t manage to dominate the market when they had the chance.

    • MichaelZWilliamson

      Didn’t realize they were the same. I have one of each marking.

  • salty

    so, just placed an order, think i screwin myself as eventually they will clearance everything out? they have those big bolts/carriers available for individual purchase for wssm builds…. just an FYI

  • datimes

    I was planning on starting up a company that produces AR’s. Everyone will want one because I’ll have 12 different color triggers you can chose from.

    • BigR

      How about the bolt! Ever “thunk” about a red or green bolt!!!!

      • datimes

        Red and green zebra stripes. Thanks!

  • Tetsu Uma

    I guess I’ll never be able to get that 10mm upper.

    • Mazryonh

      The fact that the OA’s uppers in 10mm took proprietary magazines holding 18 rounds instead of Glock magazines always seemed odd to me. 10mm PCCs are already a niche product, so why not let them take the most widely-available magazine for that caliber?

  • Hoplopfheil

    If it wasn’t for the AWB, we might all have OA-93s instead of AR pistols with clumsy buffer tubes.

    Damn shame!

    • MichaelZWilliamson

      There’s no reason they couldn’t have resumed production after the AWB, except that the design, while unique, was not ideal.

  • n0truscotsman

    Thats something. I suppose 😛

  • Vaughan

    Wow. I bought an Olympic Arms firearm several years ago. If did not function. I tried repeatedly to have the company repair it, replace it or refund my money. Their customer service was horrible. After the absolutely dreadful experience I had with Olympic Arms I am not surprised they are out of business. My surprise is that they stayed in business as long as they did!

    • MichaelZWilliamson

      My lower was out of spec, but they did fix it. This was during the horrible pre-ban rush in 93.

  • Bob

    I love the AR platform and it my first choice when calling Coyotes. I have never been a fan of Olympic Arms Products. I build my own AR’s and never buy factory over priced AR Rifles so could care less if they close their doors.

  • Bob

    I love the AR platform and it is my first choice when calling Coyotes. I have never been a fan of Olympic Arms Products. I build my own AR’s and never buy factory over priced AR Rifles so could care less if they close their doors.

  • Hank Seiter

    If true, this is sad news. In 1983 I assembled my first “kit gun” using OA “matched upper-lower set”. I believe I got the rest of the kit from OA, too. A day after receiving the kit I had fully assembled the OA kit and within the week flawlessly ran through about 300 rounds.

    What made this build particularly unique was the barrel was chambered for the then experimental 6x45mm round. It was said at the time the military was looking at rebarreling all the M16A1s and in the process of adopting what would turn out to be the M249 and were also considering going to a new cartridge that would feed from existing magazines that would have better downrange terminal ballistics or some such.

    As it turned out the military settled on the 62 grain .224 bullet with a penetrator known today as the M855/SS109. So the SAW and the M-16A2 remained .22 caliber instead of .243 caliber. I guess the deciding factor was the warehouses full of 55 grain M193 cartridges that would eventually be used for training recruits and qualifying until they were used up and were fully replaced by the M855. Anyway, that’s what I understood was happening during the late 1970s and early 80s.

    Though OA had a relatively expensive new die set available for making the 6x45mm cartridge, I simply used a spare 5.56/.223 die set and changed to a 6mm/.243 expander ball. I still have the rifle and it still works great after having put 3000+ rounds through it. I had to handload everything for several decades though Black Hills came out with their 6×45 loading a few years ago. I stuck with my handloads since I had already stockpiled 3500 rounds.

    In my experience with the AR platform, I would say my 85gr. 6mm load was pretty hard-hitting and bucked crosswinds far better than the 5.56 but the .300 Blackout is probably the best cartridge for the M16/AR15 platform given its ballistic superiority out to 500 yards despite it less flat trajectory as compared to the M855 and the .300 is fully compatible with existing STANAG/M16 aluminum magazines. The 6x45mm cartridge would start having feeding issues if STANAG or mil-spec aluminum M16 magazines were loaded with more than 25 rounds but this condition would have been solved with adopting Orlite or Thermold-style magazines. Magpul Pmags work perfectly with the 6x45mm but it would have been another 20 years before they came along so that was another negative with the 6mm conversion.

    • MichaelZWilliamson

      As I understand it, lethality analysis was that the round was not sufficiently more effective a stopper to account for the lower loadout for the same mass–IOW, if something is 10% more effective, but 15% more massive, it makes the system overall less effective.

  • Vorant

    The only thing I ever liked about Olympic Arms was their logo and that’s all.

  • JoeF

    I was thinking about picking up one of their 22-250 offerings, hopefully someone else takes up the mantle.

  • 1inidaho

    All about supply and demand. I mean, how many companies do we need producing these things? Then S&W finally comes out with their newest version, is there really demand for another one? How many companies are producing billet aluminum receivers?

  • 1inidaho

    My apologies, I was thinking about the Springfield Armory Saint.

  • tarnishedcopper

    Gee how does a company just cancel all its warranties on stuff it has sold? Does it have the usual “30 feet or 30 second warranty?”

    Yes I also am a bit tired of AR-type weapons. It might be one of the most popular ones out there, but sooner or later they will just stop selling as the market gets saturated.

    I get all the online ads from all the internet firearms and accessory retailers. It seem like 90% of what they advertise is AR stuff. Honestly, I guess I am just bored with AR’s. I have one and yes it shoots well, but just don’t much care for it.

  • dontrun

    They put out a lot of crap AR’s and wouldn’t stand behind them when they wouldn’t work. The cast receiver fiasco sank them. Left a bad taste in a lot of folks mouth, and that’s a shame, since they did at one time make some good AR’s. I don’t think they ever recovered from it.

  • TrevG

    Well with their main product being potentially banned in WA state in a couple months it’s odd timing.