First MPT-76 rifles delivered to the Turkish Military

Last year TFB reported about the MPT-76 rifle with some unique pictures from the MKE stand at IWA.

As you may recall, this project first started as a 5,56×45, but has since developed to a 7,62×51 mm after feedback and new research and development. I guess if you’re used with a HK G3, you might as well keep the caliber.

The first batch of rifles is now about to be delivered to the Turkish army, according to the source Haber7.

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The Turkish motto for the MPT-76 is for it to be “as effective as G-3, reliable as AK-47, and practical as M-16″. To me it resembles a HK 417.

MKEK, Mechanical and Chemical Industry Corporation, is the Government owned company that has designed and now produce the MPT-76

One reason why Turkey choose to develop their own “national rifle” is most likely that they want more freedom and independence from foreign sources.  Let’s presume that foreign source might be Heckler & Koch, considering MKE also produce G3 and MP5 clones.

Apart from the independence, the “in-house” R&D of the MPT-76 is rumored to save money and this project is probably just a stepping stone for further development of other military weapons.

Fully automatic testing Turkish style, straight down into the ground. From Haber7.com.

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In the video (linked below) they test the MPT-76 rifle in full auto, magazine after magazine until the barrel is smoking.

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And I mean smoking…there is also testing in mud, ice and all sorts of interesting situations.

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I don’t recognize the optic, possibly something Made in Turkey. Note the IR/laser as well, plus front grip with built-in bipod.

As the top picture has the same optic, but with a red dot on top, I think the scope has some kind of magnification.

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Some details. Most seem correct, but I think they fired more than just 50 rounds to test it.

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There’s a video of the test firing in this link: HERE. Check the bottom of the page and press play.

(Source: Haber7.com Turkey)

You can find more details and pictures of the MPT-76 here.





Eric B

Ex-Arctic Ranger. Competitive practical shooter and hunter with an European focus. Always ready to increase my collection of modern semi-automatic firearms, optics and sound suppressors. Owning the night would be nice too.


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  • Major Tom

    I see they ditched that ridiculously ugly carry handle from early in development.

    • Jonathan Ferguson

      It’s still in the poster. Presume it’s standard unless an optic is fitted.

  • yodamiles

    Isn’t this gun a clone of HK 417?

    • Rob

      With some slight modifications.

    • MrFN

      Very slight modifications, these guys have made their name by properly utilizing HK tooling for their G3s, HK33s, MP5s, etc. Makes sense they would clone what HK says is their “next gen” .308

  • User

    With well made projectile construction (hard steelhead and fragmenting jacked like the EPR) you get enough penetration and terminal ballistic with 5.56×45. For half the weight => double the rounds to carry. Higher magazin capacity. Less than half the recoil -> higher hit propability. And if you argument about “tearing up cover with tha 7.62×51” … you got twice the rounds with 5.56 and less than half the recoil so it works perfectly fine, also it has a higher energy to weight ratio and you have 10more rounds in a mag.
    And both are supersonic to 800y anyways, no diffrence there.
    Have fun to carry that weight for nothing.

    • Big Daddy

      Keep believing that.

    • iksnilol

      Eh, it is much easier to hit at 800 meters with 7.62×51 than with 5.56.

      • User

        5.56×45 has flatter trajectory and minimal shorter time of flight, while having more wind drift yes.
        But at this point you literally trade everything, for an advantage in wind drift at 800y. And beyond that both go subsonic and loose accuracy and supression anyways.

        5.56×45 M855A1 gives sicnificant advantages in every single aspect except winddrift.
        And at the end of the day, under supression fire trying to make some super carefull shots at 800y with the bad shaped 7.62×51. Isnt something i would call efficient.
        Take a LMG with M855A1 EPR and send bursts -> no recoil, double the pouch capacity, double the ammo to carry, slight wind drift diffrence makes no diffrence in machine gun fire, overall verry sicnificant higher % hit propability at that range.

        • User

          * i also want to add that 7.62×51 takes larger parts which further increases weight, and due to longer cartridge the barrel lenght decreases for the same overall lenght.

          In urban combat with small targets at mid range, high recoil and less mag capacity is a pure pain in the ass to use. Hit propability is absolute key. And double the ammo ofcourse keeps you in the fight longer and gives the ability for overmatching supression firepower.

        • iksnilol

          From reading trajectories there’s a big difference between 5.56 and 7.62 at about 500-600 meters.

          • User

            No there isnt. M855 which has a worse bc than M855A1 EPR drops less than 14feet. While 7.62×51 M80 even at max energy drops 16feet. (both at 800y, and zeroed individual at theyr max point blank range).

            I also should add that Mortars still are a thing… and used verry well at that distance.

          • iksnilol

            *facepalm*

            You’re comparing new high tech ammo that the US is barely fielding to regular ‘ole M80 ball.

            Also, since you’re mentioning mortars you must realize that 7.62 is bettet at that range.

          • User

            “that the US is barely fielding” 6years………

            Im saying modern 5.56×45 (M855A1) does everything better inside actual practical ranges. Over that range Mortars will be much more efficient. And 7.62×51 already subsonic (no supression and point accuracy).

            M80A1 is 17grain lighter and has a worse BC than M80, its faster than M80 but slower than M855A1, you get almost same drop at 800y as M855A1.

          • iksnilol

            Well, is M855A1 the standard service round in the US?

            And furthermore, is it realistically feasible for Turkey to make it its main round then?

          • User

            Standart of the Army, and propably soon of the rest, the Marine Mk318 has a worse BC (lower supersonic range, less energy at range, worse drop, worse wind drift), while also having stupid low steel and barrier penetration compared to it.
            The only reason that M855A1 did not become standart for Marines was that they tested verry early models that still had tin bismuth cores (less accurate than the far better copper cores), and 62kpsi pressure compared to the currect 55 or 59kpsi.

            M855A1 goes trough Lvl3+ steel where serval 7.62x54R Steelcore wont do anything. A friend of me fighting with it in Afghanistan loved it. Fragments in flesh out to around 600m.

          • iksnilol

            Again, you missed my point.

            WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF TURKEY BEING ABLE TO AQUIRE ENOUGH OF M855A1 TO USE THAT OVER 7.62X51 AS A PRIMARY WEAPON?

          • User

            7.62×51 need around 17cm to yaw in tissue…. = higher icepick change than 5.56×45.
            Similar non patend infringing designs are possible for 5.56×45 to give both high penetration and terminal ballistic.
            =youre capslock is senceless

          • iksnilol

            I give up, you’re beyond retarded. A lobotomy would bring you to Stephen Hawking levels of intelligence.

          • User

            Thats no argument… ,bring arguments or your point is invalide.

          • iksnilol

            Well, i did bring up an argument you conveniently ignored: How is TURKEY going to replace 7.62×51 with a 5.56 version that is exclusive to the US?

          • User

            Dude… i already answered it, a projectile with good penetration and terminal effectiveness is easy to design without infringing any patents of other countrys. If Turkey has no ballisticians that can do that, they eighter have no actual qualification, or seem to utterly lack brain matter.

          • iksnilol

            Nah, you’re avoiding my argument all the time.

            It’s like why doesn’t the US use 9.3x39mm? Suure, they can nanufacture it but they don’t.

          • User

            …… Turkey has tons of 5.56×45 manufacturing

          • iksnilol

            Yeah, but do they have tons of M885A1 manufacturing?

            Like you said yourself, M855A1 and M855 are vastly different.

    • moonstar

      That argument belongs to WW2 experience. In modern battlefields 7.62 is more appropriate round.

      In mountainaous region south east Turkey, Turkish troops used both rounds against terorists, 5.56 and 7.62. They found 7.62 is more effective.

      • Lana

        So they pitted Aks against G3s?
        Main reason is probably ammunition and training. Cheaper to give everyone the same rifle than issuing DMRs plus 556 rifles.

  • Drew Coleman

    That optic looks similar to an Elcan.

    Appears to be a 3E EOS AVCI scope, according to what I was able to Google.

  • xebat

    Now comes the question if this will ever be imported into the U.S market and how much it will go for. If it is around 1500 it’s gonna be a sweet option.

  • GSC

    I think “50 test rounds” means 50 rounds of testing, not 50 rounds fired in testing.

    • A bearded being from beyond ti

      It would be kinda funny if it only was 50 rounds though…

  • GD Ajax

    “It resembles a HK 417” because it’s a blatant copy of the 417.

  • Chris22lr

    MPT-76 was designed by private owned company called KaleKalip. Actually 10 thousands of new rifles will be produced by KaleKalip and rest by MKEK.

    Also I’m not sure that MPT-76 is a HK417 rip-off because MKEK already tried to do that and (for reasons unknown) failed. MKEK 417 was called Mehmetcik and even used HK-marked lower receiver. By that time KaleKalip 5.56 rifle was already known (since 2007 to be precise) and Mehmetcik rifle fiasco led to MKEK cooperating with KK on upscaling KK’s rifle.

    Now I’m almost sure that KaleKalip design is also short-stroke piston adapted from AR-18 to AR-15 bolt group (or rather the other way around since you need to adapt the bolt carrier). This makes it a very close cousin to HK416/417, but on the other hand which modern rifle is not using AR-18 derived piston? FNs: SCAR and F2000 come to my mind as only exceptions. Jane’s article on MPT-76 presentation during Eurosatory 2014 lists some technical differences between HK417 and Turkish gun. If this points to some indigenous, independent development by Turks, or only changing enough of HK gun to appease Oberndorf gods (and KaleKalip serves as a cover up), I don’t know.

  • Connor Christensen

    I think it’s 50 rounds of testing, like different phases, because right after they state the number of rounds used is 1.1 million. Wish we cold get a semi auto version, as that would be kick ass

  • anonymouse

    The sight used is 3E EOS AVCI1-4x

    The MPT-76 is based on the HK417, with some modifications (for example the piston system is different as are the extractors on the bolt). However I’m not sure it’s fair to call it a clone of the HK417 when that rifle is itself a clone of other rifles. All I think it proves is that there’s nothing new under the sun.