Standard Manufacturing Volley Fire Pistol | SHOT 2017

At the Industry Day Range, Standard Manufacturing has a giant Semi Truck RV and a tent with some new products. They are coming out with a small pocket pistol called the VolleyFire. It is reminiscent of the old Mossberg Brownie. The breech-loading style of the VolleyFire is almost identical down to the top latch mechanism.

 

Where the Brownie and VolleyFire differ is in capacity and that the VolleyFire fires two rounds at a time.

It has six barrels and when the trigger is pressed, there are two firing pins that hit the bullets at opposing ends of the barrel cluster. So it fires two rounds simultaneously.  When you reset and pull the trigger, the firing pins rotate to the next pair of bullets.

 

I am not sure how this is not classified as a machine gun. I thought machine guns are defined when multiple rounds are fired with a single trigger pull. I recall the double barreled 1911 had the same issue when it was originally designed with a single trigger. So they had to redesign it with two triggers that are linked. Look at side by side shotguns or over under shotguns. They have two distinct barrels and chambers. And yet you do not have a shotgun with a single trigger that can fire both rounds simultaneously.

At the moment the VolleyFire will come out in .25acp and they said they have a .22WMR version as well.





Nicholas C

Co-Founder of KRISSTALK forums, an owner’s support group and all things KRISS Vector related. Nick found his passion through competitive shooting while living in NY. He participates in USPSA and 3Gun. He loves all things that shoots and flashlights. Really really bright flashlights.

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  • Jack Morris

    “Let’s design a self defense pistol guys!”
    “Super tiny 9mm?”
    “Nah, let’s go with an archaic design and chamber it in the weakest centerfire cartridge in current production!”
    Fund it.

    • Michael Lubrecht

      “Hey, all we hafta do is build some credibility for it, then license the patent to Kel-Tec! We’ll get a bucket full of money, and they’ll never build it anyway, so none’s the wiser that it doesn’t actually work!”

      • Andrew Miller

        And “Fanboys” clamor for them at double the MSRP…

    • Just say’n

      And 2 x .25 cal = .50 cal !

      • Jack Morris

        Bingo. Can’t argue that math.

    • 25 acp pretty much no recoil. 9mm fired twice from two points on the gun may be too much for most people to handle.

      • Tim Pearce

        Yes, I agree with both of those. However, they could almost as easily have made it a .22 LR, which would mean ammunition is (theoretically) far more available, one ninth the price, and just as effective.

        • 25 acp is pretty common. When you had shortages of 22lr you could still find 25 acp.

    • Tim Pearce

      I had to go back and look at the pictures because I automatically assumed they’d have enough sense to make it a .22 LR, if they were going to go with tiny cartridges.

  • Jeff Smith

    In Range interviewed the rep – since it fires both rounds at the same time (not one after the other), it is considered volley fire, not a machine gun.

  • TheNotoriousIUD
  • TDog

    I want the one in gold… that way if I ever use it in an encounter, I can dump it and blame the shooting on a tiny pimp.

  • mike

    How about making it in a different caliber, say 7.62×25 or 5.7×28

    • JumpIf NotZero

      Everyone is always looking for a place to use 5.7×28 😉

    • abecido

      And instead of six barrels, it could have only one. With a way to feed cartridges into that barrel one at a time.

      • Disarmed in CA

        Genius!

  • Since when did Chris Hansen start working for ATF?

  • Vhyrus

    I think these are really going to start affecting hi-point’s market when they start showing up in rap videos and crime scenes.

    • Tim Pearce

      You just brought up an interesting complication. The “ballistic fingerprinting” efforts, with this thing, will be difficult. Maryland (I think that’s the state) will get extra headaches with having six spent cases for every gun.

  • abecido

    Looks like Standard wants to be the new USFA badly enough to jump straight to the “oddity of questionable design, function,and purpose” stage.
    Or: the Zip .22 of 2017 has arrived.

  • Beardedrambler

    I actually really like the concept. Make it in 38 or 357 and only fire once per pull and id love to have one.

    • Creepermoss

      I’d probably buy one, too. Looks like a non-revolving pepperbox that fires two at once.

    • iksnilol

      So change literally the whole thing and you’ll like it?

    • Edeco

      Kindof makes more sense to have a (solid, like this STD thing) pepper-box than a revolver with a barrel under 2″, kind of simpler, no cylinder gap, not much more added bulk in front. But the shape would have to be way smoothed out and trimmed down compared to this.

    • Amanofdragons

      Just buy a cop 357

      • DIR911911 .

        you mean the collector item you can’t get parts for?

        • another company is coming out with a four barrel pepperbox that you can change the caliber like on a derriginer by changing the barrel set. I think 357 mag was one of the barrel sets.

    • gunsandrockets

      Or just fire duplex rounds from a .357 snubbie revolver.

  • retfed

    ” . . . [t]wo firing pins . . . hit the bullets . . .” And then what?
    Who writes this stuff? And do they have proofreaders or editors?

  • This is so 1920’s it hurts! <3

    • DIR911911 .

      there’ll be a wood grip model for the hipsters

  • Disarmed in CA

    Aim once… miss twice!

  • Ryobiwankenobi

    Did a Mossberg Brownie and a Cobray Pocket Pal have an illegitimate offspring?

  • DK

    I’m interested, especially at the $200-$300 price range I’ve seen elsewhere, though I have a couple ideas on how to improve it:
    >offer .22lr as an option
    While .25 ACP does outperform .22lr for practical uses from a shorter barrel, I (and probably others as well) would be mostly interested in this as a range toy and would benefit from the much cheaper ammo that should become common again in the upcoming months.
    >offer 1, 3, and 6 shot hammers as replacement parts, so long as reliable ignition isn’t a problem
    This shouldn’t be to much of a problem if the rotating hammer assembly work like the other non rotating pepperbox pistols out there.

  • clampdown

    .22WMR with the Hornady Super Defense load would be a serious “get-off-me” gun.

    • Tim Pearce

      It would, at least, make far more sense than .25 ACP.

  • Southpaw89

    Well if its cheap enough it could make a fun little noise maker.

    • Totally bringing it to birthday parties!

      Step 1: Get some 25acp brass, put a primer in them.
      Step 2: Fill with Confetti and cover with a piece of tape

      Step 3: Load Gun, hold in air.

      Step 4: Celebration time!

  • B. Young

    I want the gold one too-a 1970’s Chick a dow wow…..chick – a – wow…

  • BryanS

    I’ll wait for it to be recalled and redesigned thanks. Or are they trying to break the NFA and Hughes in a better way than Atkins?

  • Would it be possible to put one slow round and one hotter/faster round inside the pair of firing chambers so that one round impacts slightly before the other thus making an actual machine gun?

    • Nick

      I don’t really see the point in doing that (or the point of this gun but that’s beside the point). You would have to have a pretty extreme velocity spread to get them to impact with any noticeable difference in the time it takes them to hit the target especially since this is probably a <10yd gun. There's a roughly 60 millisecond difference between impact times at 50yds with a 50gr .25 @750fps and a 50gr. 25 @1100fps.

  • gunsandrockets

    Why .25 ACP instead of .22 LR? Maybe for reliability with a lower powered striker, which reduces the trigger pull.

    Now all it needs is a full moon clip for .25 ACP!

    • L. Roger Rich

      22lt is more susceptible to oil causing the powder to go bad.

      • DIR911911 .

        22 long & tall ??? take my money!!!

        • L. Roger Rich

          A butt hole in every lot. Here you go …The gap between the case and bullet is not seated well or crimped as is a center fire round. If you insist on carrying self defence seal that area on a 22LR, L or ,S with finger nail polish and change it out at intervals.

  • gunsandrockets

    Two big questions: how much dispersion is there in the volley? how heavy is the trigger pull?

  • gunsandrockets

    At point blank range two hits from .25 ACP would be at least the equivalent of being hit by two 00 buckshot pellets at 50 yards.

  • L. Roger Rich

    Kind of like a Daniel / Leinad SOG 32/22 Pocket Pal.

  • DIR911911 .

    I don’t know . . . looks really expensive

  • Kodi

    A big for caliber non-ergonomic, non-autoloading handgun in .25 ACP or .22 Mag?
    What’s the point?

    • Doesn’t tend to jam, cannot be grabbed to move the slide back preventing the semi from firing. etc

  • Tim Pearce

    As I understand it, the legal definition of “machine gun” says it has to be an auto-loading action. So, since this doesn’t use the energy of discharging the cartridges to reload chambers, it cannot be a “machine gun.” Probably the only reason we haven’t seen double-barreled shotguns that would fire both barrels with a single pull of a single trigger is A.) ouch factor of double recoil, and, B.) no follow-up shot.

    This doesn’t mean the ATF won’t try and classify this as a machine gun, anyway, though.

    • Cymond

      I don’t see anything about auto loading actions except the vague word “automatically”.

      (b) Machinegun
      The term “machinegun” means any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger. The term shall also include the frame or receiver of any such weapon, any part designed and intended solely and exclusively, or combination of parts designed and intended, for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun, and any combination of parts from which a machinegun can be assembled if such parts are in the possession or under the control of a person.
      https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/5845

  • Cynic

    my theory for why it isn’t a machine gun is seperate barrels and striker systems are counted as seperate triggers

  • Peter Nissen

    The trigger reminds me of the HK VP70 – which had a horrible trigger pull and I suspect the S-333 is going down the same path……